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Sports videographer FOOLS his client using an iPhone 

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@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
What did you think of the image quality? Especially from the 2nd game where I actually knew what I was doing 😂
@GroundrushRugby
@GroundrushRugby Год назад
The image quality looks far better the second time round and I am now very interested in using my iPhone more than I usually do rather than my 4k camcorder after seeing the accessories you have been using. One thing though I notice you did not zoom in on any of your shots and kept it all wide. Is that because of the loss of quality with having the different size Megapixels when switching from main to telephoto etc? I mainly do rugby videos which a lot of the time I may be stuck at the far end of the pitch zooming in to get a good close up. I was disappointed after realising the loss of quality and obvious camera switching over when I was attempting on getting closer. How do you work around that?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
@@GroundrushRugby The short answer is that you can't work around it. The zoom on your phone is only a digital zoom so it's the same as scaling up in post. It's an automatic loss of quality. Which is why I did stick to the main 1x lens in the second game and it's also why I chose basketball to do this experiment. Filming outdoor sports that way would be way too wide most of the time for the reason you mentioned. Here's a video I made about digital zooms that might be helpful ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WmqgJM6xu_g.html
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
@FadeBuckets that’s good to hear! Thanks for the great feedback 🙏🏽
@Mike_Jones68
@Mike_Jones68 9 месяцев назад
I honestly thought it looked great. I am interested in moving into a Iphone15 or Pixel8Pro...seems like the normal IP 15 has the higher end cameras that the 14Max does minus the telephoto, which would only do good in photography anyways, not my purpose. Im looking to film live soccer, basketball, and hockey, so what you shown and the tips you gave seem to be spot on. Do you know if the normal IP15 is basically just as good as the 14Max camera wise for live sports?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E 9 месяцев назад
@@Mike_Jones68 I only made this video because I had just bought the 14 Pro Max but I don't really know anything about other phones. But I do think that you'll struggle to film a sport like soccer with a phone because of the size of the field.
@philipguglielmo58
@philipguglielmo58 Год назад
More smart phone sports videos please!
@yefersonmemo9981
@yefersonmemo9981 Год назад
Finally a video like this using a phone!!! Great video as always.
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
Glad you liked it! What did you think of the phone footage quality?
@yefersonmemo9981
@yefersonmemo9981 Год назад
@@BeyondTheGame_E Quality looks good, that I might have to try to record a Sunday league game with an iPhone lol.
@blvrryvhs
@blvrryvhs 11 месяцев назад
used my iphone 14 pro to film my schools latest football game, no accessories or anything special, just didn’t have a lens for our canon rebel camera and utilized the telephoto and cinematic mode on my iphone. Shots came out wonderful even in low light, even a year later i’m still so impressed with my 14 pro in so many cases
@EvolutionBasketballTraining
More smartphone Basketball videos!!
@quintonwestland9941
@quintonwestland9941 6 месяцев назад
I film my brothers games on my iPhone XR. I really like these videos. I need to learn more tricks to make it more like a real camera. Thx
@andytidbury8334
@andytidbury8334 3 месяца назад
I regularly record my son's football matches (soccer) using my Samsung phone and a gimbal. I've been using the telephoto lens. I never realised the different pixel rates, thanks for highlighting this. 10mp versus 50mp for the main lens! Shocking! I need to rethink this.
@vibewithjelson
@vibewithjelson Год назад
Great video as always. If you ever get your hands on a Sony Xperia 1 IV I would love to see what you do with it, the video capabilities of that phone is crazy.
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
Will do but I doubt it will happen though. I’ve been using iPhones for 12 years. I’m too invested at this point 😂
@GaugedFreak10
@GaugedFreak10 5 месяцев назад
I use a DJI Osmo 5 on a monopod and an IPhone 14 Pro to shoot my son’s basketball games, it works out pretty well. We watch the games on an 85 inch TV and it looks great.
@TheJungleofSports
@TheJungleofSports Год назад
Great video! Thanks for making it for us!
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
Glad you like it! 👍🏽
@matn6616
@matn6616 Год назад
Great footage in the second game!
@monikalantos7493
@monikalantos7493 Год назад
Pretty impressive capabilites of the iPhone14 Pro. I use my iPhone12 now, and it is good for a start. Now I am planning to buy a professional entry level kit and the one you suggest on your website seems a better option. I wonder if the iPhone 14 Pro is good enough to make footage of a rugby game, considering the huge pitch. Battery life might be a con, too. So to me the question is: iPhone 14 Pro or a Sony Alpha ZV-E10 plus a Sony 18-200 mm lens.
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
The action of a rugby match would look very far away most of the time on an iPhone 14 Pro. I would definitely go for the Sony ZV-E10 camera and the 18-200mm lens if I were you.
@monikalantos7493
@monikalantos7493 Год назад
@@BeyondTheGame_E Thank you, that's what I thought.
@tempestfilmsph
@tempestfilmsph Год назад
pretty bad stabilization on the tele and anamorphic use a tripod with fluid head
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
The stabilization is normally quite good. At 5:23 I explain that the image is wobbling because the stabilization needs to be turned completely off when using the anamorphic lens and I forgot to turn it off. A tripod wouldn't have helped in that particular situation.
@tempestfilmsph
@tempestfilmsph Год назад
@@BeyondTheGame_E tripod can help immensely. specially if ur doing pans.
@Zay-vn8mi
@Zay-vn8mi Год назад
I would be so mad if I paid you to film and you brought an iphone lol
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
I could have gone sideways pretty quickly 😬 but it turned out all right.
@mosijahi3096
@mosijahi3096 Год назад
Why if the results were good?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
@@mosijahi3096 That's what I mean. I didn't know going in that the results would be good. So it could have been an issue if the footage was disappointing. To be honest, if I only had the first game's footage I probably would have been in trouble but the second game was much better and that's what saved me.
@A.Edilbi
@A.Edilbi Год назад
@4:00 , the sensor is smaller , but not 4 time smaller , 12 megapixels has nothing to do with the bad quality , 4k video need only 8 megapixels
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
48/4=12, that’s math. Also, just because you can do 4K at 8MP doesn’t mean it’s great image quality. For example, the 4K image quality out of my GoPro is not nearly as good as the 1080p quality out of my cinema camera.
@A.Edilbi
@A.Edilbi Год назад
@Beyond the Game sony a7siii has 12 mp it has nothing to do with math .sensor size is not related or measured with pixels
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
@@A.Edilbi I understand what you're saying. I know that the megapixel count is not the end all and be all. But it is still a factor. Camera sensor size and megapixel count go hand-in-hand. But a higher megapixel count is always better on a larger camera sensor than on a smaller one.
@A.Edilbi
@A.Edilbi Год назад
@@BeyondTheGame_E I don't know what you are talking about , I thought you are a camera channel so you know more than me , for video the more megapixel you have the worst , canon c70 and arri cinema cameras have 8 megapixel only , there are a million reason for this , but I assumed you know it all
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
@@A.Edilbi Im not a camera channel. I’m not even a cameraman. I’m a video editor who knows his way around a camera and has a sports videography channel on RU-vid. My passion and priority has always been storytelling and creativity. The tech stuff is just something I have to learn to try to use my camera the best way possible. There are millions of people who know more about cameras than me and that’s ok.
@brandenlowther
@brandenlowther 23 дня назад
what about If I was to take pictures, what would you recommend buying
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E 23 дня назад
If you’re talking specifically about phones, I only know iPhones so that’s what I would recommend.
@JJF995
@JJF995 Месяц назад
Hello, would you mind sharing some of the specific adjustments you made to enhace the quality while recording the games. Or any recommendations? Ex: lighting, shutter speed etc. Thank you. And great video
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Месяц назад
Thanks for the feedback! The best advice I can give you is to use an app like Filmic pro, record in the highest recording quality available (Prores, 10-bit, etc.) and then use the same exposure rules as you would on a normal camera. Shutter speed slightly above 2x your frame rate and ISO at a minimum.
@JJF995
@JJF995 Месяц назад
@BeyondTheGame_E Thank you appreciate the feedback. Be well
@cariannemoore6604
@cariannemoore6604 3 месяца назад
Can you do more teaching of the filmic pro and how to use it?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately I doubt this will happen but there are plenty of tutorials available already on RU-vid.
@swallowmedia
@swallowmedia Год назад
Excellent video. I have a Sony fx3 with Tamron 35-150. Do you think for wide shots the iPhone footage would be sufficient to match with it? Would help re changing lenses.
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
Well my behind the scenes footage at the games in this video is shot with an FX3 camera. So you can be the judge and tell me if it cuts well with the game footage. The second game is probably a better representation.
@darrylsmart1
@darrylsmart1 Год назад
Another great video! One question.... how much do you charge to shoot a game. I struggle with this one all the time. Thanks
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
I don't have one single price that I charge everyone, there are many factors to consider. Best advice I can give you is all in this video I made on the topic ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O3nR75VF_pM.html
@debbiesanchez-alvarez8875
@debbiesanchez-alvarez8875 Год назад
I film with IPhone 13 and use filmic pro. I film indoor basketball, socker games and sports
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
How do you like the image quality in general?
@BFITBASKETBALL818
@BFITBASKETBALL818 Год назад
Great video. I recently started to make videos and I just bought me an iphone 14 pro max . I been looking for videos on the subject. What computer do you use to edit?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
I edit on the MacBook Pro you can see behind me in the office shots.
@Dayy1Vision
@Dayy1Vision Год назад
Much needed ibro!! What was the lens you use for the gym ?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
I assume you’re talking about the second game, I was on the main lens (1x) the entire time.
@Dayy1Vision
@Dayy1Vision Год назад
@@BeyondTheGame_E that’s sick!! Any filters just raw film ?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
@@Dayy1Vision I used a couple LUTs from my Ultimate Sports LUT pack to give it a bit of a grade. But they are applied to the iPhone camera app footage too so, as you can see, there's a big difference between the footage filmed with the basic camera app and the footage filmed with the Filmic Pro app.
@marcodeluca4068
@marcodeluca4068 4 месяца назад
I am trying to make a sport demo video what setting I should use with my iPhone?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E 4 месяца назад
4K/60 would be ideal.
@sachabussiere2029
@sachabussiere2029 2 месяца назад
are there any applications of something for the video quality?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E 2 месяца назад
Yes. The same one I’m using in this video.
@IJustMakeEditz
@IJustMakeEditz 22 дня назад
What package would you recommend for recording American football from the bleachers? I won’t have access to the field to record
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E 22 дня назад
@@IJustMakeEditz Don't use a phone if you are filming from the bleachers. Otherwise you will lose a lot of quality when zooming in. I recommend getting a budget mirrorless camera kit instead. Here's a page with all my budget recommendations: kit.co/Beyond_the_Game/best-sports-filming-kit-on-a-budget
@philipmccaulley1
@philipmccaulley1 9 месяцев назад
I use my Note 10 plus android phone and edit in CAPCUT and people are blown away with the end results..
@markm3330
@markm3330 Год назад
What settings did you use in filmic PRO?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
I don’t remember but pretty much the highest quality available.
@spritPA2024
@spritPA2024 10 месяцев назад
Did you ever post the video from this job? If so, what is the link? Are you planning to do a similar test with the iPhone 15 Pro Max or Google Pixel 8 Pro?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E 10 месяцев назад
The video was for a client so it is not for me to post. I may do a similar video down the track but I have no immediate plans unfortunately.
@vinimakertv
@vinimakertv Год назад
Great Video 👏👏👏👏
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
🙏🏽
@maxmaafalamaiava
@maxmaafalamaiava Год назад
Is the Freewell good for outdoor, filming a football game from ground level?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
You'll get similar results to what you see in this video. Your main issue will be the lack of zooming capabilities.
@lisabaker5376
@lisabaker5376 6 месяцев назад
What would you recommend to video +photos for soccer games outside?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E 6 месяцев назад
Depends on your budget and the level of quality you are after.
@stephaneguyon8577
@stephaneguyon8577 6 месяцев назад
Excellente video, merci ! Penses-tu qu'il y ait un intérêt (peut-être as-tu déjà testé ?) à utiliser un iPhone avec un gimbal type DJI Osmo Mobile 6 pour filmer des matchs de basket ? Ou le grip Freewell est-il largement suffisant ?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E 6 месяцев назад
Pour moi la grip est largement suffisante. Et personnellement je n'utiliserais pas de gimbal pour filmer l'action d'un match, peu importe la caméra dessus. Les mouvements d'un gimbal sont beaucoup trop lent pour suivre l'action de près. Donc avec un gimbal, tu dois te limiter à ne faire que des plans larges.
@stephaneguyon8577
@stephaneguyon8577 6 месяцев назад
@@BeyondTheGame_E Merci beaucoup pour ta réponse ! Tu vas m'éviter de faire un achat inutile. J'avais lu des remarques qui allaient dans ton sens concernant les gimbals pour une utilisation sport : pas assez rapides pour suivre l'action. Encore merci pour tes conseils et tes vidéos !
@NathanaelPadgett
@NathanaelPadgett 9 месяцев назад
Suggestions on how to record for a while when nothing happens that you know you want to keep; so you want to stop and start recording again but quickly delete the footage you just recorded because nothing happened. Is there any type of app that is similar to GoPros HindSight feature? I only want to keep clips I I know something happened in and not have to cull through so many clips at the end of a game. Right now I just stop recording after an event happens and I know the part i wanted to keep will be at the end of all the clips. If too much time goes by that I know is wasted file, I stop it, have a wait like 2 seconds to view the clip I just shot; delete it, then go back to video mode and start recording again. Very tedious. Any recommendations or suggestions?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E 9 месяцев назад
There's not better way to do this. I mean, it's part of filming sports. You film for hours hoping that something interesting happens. Personally though, I wouldn't be so quick to delete clips that you don"'t think are relevant. I would say that easily 25% of the content of my videos is from clips that I never thought I would use when I recorded them.
@profilmroom9963
@profilmroom9963 5 месяцев назад
What settings did you use in filmic pro
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E 5 месяцев назад
I try to use the higher quality settings.
@MariusIhlar
@MariusIhlar Год назад
Where is the fooling part?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
It's the fact that they approved the video I produced for them from this footage.
@Dan-dg2pc
@Dan-dg2pc Год назад
If i was the client I'd be pissed lol
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
🤷🏽‍♂️
@HoopNicely
@HoopNicely Год назад
How did you slow mo that thing?
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
What do you mean?
@newtong743
@newtong743 Год назад
What app does ballertv use to record their games at tournaments? I believe it has to do with motion sensor
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
I wouldn’t have a clue, sorry.
@show305time4
@show305time4 8 месяцев назад
Good question
@efreng2552
@efreng2552 11 месяцев назад
What song is that at 2:20
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E 11 месяцев назад
TJ Hickey - For My People (available on Artlist)
@watchultra
@watchultra Год назад
Where are you from man? Is that a French accent I pick up? 🙂
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
Yes, I’m French-Canadian. #514 ✊🏽
@watchultra
@watchultra Год назад
@@BeyondTheGame_E Rive Sud represents!
@JoeProductionz
@JoeProductionz Год назад
first😍
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
Let me know what you think of the video.
@40beretta1
@40beretta1 Год назад
Wouldn't call it Loos...how about 'not fully secured". I have been waiting for your 14 Pro Max work. We have been putting together a videography kit for Indoor Women's volleyball. Application: Recruiting / training (Hudl). This has been a challenge to say the least at trying to keep a tight budget and find the best devices & apps for this project..
@BeyondTheGame_E
@BeyondTheGame_E Год назад
What are you guys using now?
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