I invent a problem and then make a spreadsheet to solve it. Establishing methods for use in later analysis. Support me on Patreon: / excelblem Twitter: / excelblem Subscribe: / @excelblem #FireEmblem
I like how Excelblem's first video is about helping people know and learn what makes a unit good... And now he is showing us how to kill your character in every funniest way possible.
Those are the same thing. Now that you know the good units, or just how many good units you need to beat the game, you can maximize your DPR (Deaths Per Run).
You've lulled us in with the memes, only to hit us with the analysis. You're jokes are good but I hope you continue some of the strategic analysis like this too.
Thanks! My first "funny video" was actually intended to be a clip for my next video essay, but it got popular on its own so I just decided to run with it. I've been working on follow-ups to this video behind my more humorous daily uploads, so stay tuned.
I've only played a few Fire Emblem games casually and am not super well-versed on their inner mechanics, and would likely be categorized as one of those isolated primitive apes that would say something like "Amelia is good" because I tend to use units simply based on whether or not I like the character. That said, though I don't quite understand everything, I can recognize and respect the sheer amount of effort that went into creating that spreadsheet, and your presentation was executed well enough to captivate my attention despite my limited understanding, so I subscribed on the spot. I'm absolutely fascinated by this project, and can't wait to see what conclusions you draw from this, and if it ever gets a public release, I'd love to go over it and learn how it works/what it all means. Keep up the good work!
Sounds very promising! I'm kinda curious about Franz's combat compared to Seth's. Obviously seth starts out better but I feel like Franz scales with enemy units quite well, so I'm curious to see what that'd look like.
a fascinating thing that I personally don't notice much in terms of unit analysis is also the question of: How well does the unit synergize with the REST of your army? Maybe it's the yu-gi-oh brain that actively looks for combos and ways to make things stronger or at least more consistent, but I feel like it's important to factor in units who have roles that isn't 100% going to be combat. Obviously cases like dancing units or especially early-game healers fall under this, but also how is the character's movement compared to everyone else? If they're lagging behind, godly stats that make them immune to everything and instantly one-shot everything doesn't really help much. Meanwhile a cavalier or flier with decent stats who's able to run ahead and guarantee that the village with Item You Want doesn't get destroyed is substantially more valuable despite having a very narrow immediate combat application.
I can't help but to think you're neglecting a few aspects. Why not code up a simulator that does thousands of trials for each unit against each enemy? That way, you'd also be accounting for crit, hit/miss, ect. You'd also get experimental results that you can then perform more detailed statistical analysis on. E.g. - rather than X unit defeats Y unit in one round, you'd have X unit defeats Y unit in one round with probability x.
Excellent points. This is something I'm working on at the moment! Though, I would like to note that it may not be necessary to do simulations to find those probabilities. Given all the combat parameters, I'm working on a method to model it using probability distributions.
Do you have this spreadsheet available at all? I was inspired by this video and have gathered all Enemy data for FE7 Lyn and Eliwood Normal Mode and am currently in the process of gathering it for Hector Normal Mode. I plan to get it for their respective Hard Modes as well. And eventually for all of the games within the series.
One question, how could we factor move and the ease at which a unit could get stronger (basically by getting to certain places with enemies quickly, or having augmented exp gain) into the average score of the unit? This project seems like a lot of hard work, so I wanted to congratulate you and ask if you have something in mind for accounting to the things I pointed out above.
Movement is tricky, since so much of its usefulness is so context-depend and is fairly independent of your unit's combat performance. As for boosted XP gain, I've already implemented a bit of a prototype solution in this video, where I estimate an expected level for the unit at the start of a chapter, giving lower level units more levels per chapter. It's not perfect, though, and I have been working on other implementations, including a xp gain calculator from the average enemy and from the boss for each chapter.
@@Excelblem I think Amelia is very good if you put much effort into her and upgrade her to General which is her best class, i used her in final game and she is practically invinsible though being liability in the first chapters since Gheb/ Binks (depending on route).
@@michaelsubroto5563 ANY unit (except, like, a dragonstone-less manakete) can be good if you dump everything you have into them- the real question is how much you need to dump into them to make them good. If your goal is just to get a unit with high def for the novelty factor (which probably means that you don't want TWO high def units), Gilliam is leagues ahead of Amelia- an average 10/4 Knight Amelia has less def than a base level Gilliam (7.6 vs. 9) and a much worse def growth than Gilliam (30% vs. 55%), and Gilliam has way more time to train (and has an easier time training) than Amelia does. This means that an average Gilliam needs less effort and a smaller time investment than an average Amelia needs to reach the funny klink thresholds (because let's be real here, the only reason you're fielding a General is to see those "No Damage!" pop ups), making him the superior General. That's not to say that you can't use both, but I think the novelty factor wears off faster if you have two Knights/Generals instead of one. Amelia is much better off as a Paladin, a class which is much better suited to her growths and is less impaired by (and in fact synergizes with) redundancy. In fe8, your growth rates aren't affected by your class, so the difference in def between a General Amelia and a Paladin Amelia is only 4 points- just because General!Amelia's sprite LOOKS heavily armored doesn't mean that she actually IS heavily armored.
"Rather than doing some tedious math," he creates an omega spreadsheet that took several months of work. Lol. Truly a Pog Champ moment. (P.S. looking back at the origins of Excelbm for funsies now that the "FE Engage Ironman Maddening run!" is over).
When it comes to Vaike in Awakening, he has a max strength of 51 as a Warrior or 52 as a Barbarian, Bassilio can also reach this strength number. These two units in the chapter they are introduced in fall into the 1 to 2 round category for defense in Lunatic. Though, are far more viable in lower difficulties. This makes the children of Vaike and Bassilio the strongest Barbarians or Warriors possible in Awakening.
I can't help but assume this video came about from some poor fool uttering the words: "Amelia is good" and it made you seethe. I would too, don't worry.
