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This is fantastic. I am a fairly unimpressive white belt that gets thrown around like a rag doll during most rolls. I watched this last night and decided to try in incorporate it into my rolling during a class this morning. All I did was keep my elbows to my knees as I span around on the mat and blokes who usually submit me several times in five minutes were baffled and unable to do anything. I've just rewatched it and will again a few more times so that I can ensure that I've absorbed everything. Thanks for this.
Its actually kind of hilarious. I let a guy pass my guard last night, went running man, while he was vainly searching for some connections I snatched his wrist and rolled him over my, landed in top side control lmao. He was stunned. I went from passing my guard to being in bottom side control in under 5 seconds.
@@ChrisPainesBJJ At 13:55 you effectively say that your BJJ is a sport and no longer a martial art. Try that on the street and you will get a PHD. And if you don't know what that means in street terms you have never spent a day in a real fight or for that matter around real street violence. And I do not mean PhD .
@@Combatinho "you have never spent a day in a real fight or for that matter around real street violence" you say it as if it's a good thing, when you grow up you'll learn that getting into fights is bad.
@@Combatinho You're misunderstanding what he means by sport. He doesn't mean sport as in following rules, he means sport as in developing timing. "Sport" is practiced against resisting opponents in specific positions/drills over and over. This develops your timing so you can apply it in the ring or the street.
Love it! ! Seminars like these, with deep and fundamental concepts and insights, presented in a clear and digestible manner, will help accelerate the evolution of jiu-jitsu. Absolutely brilliant!
Watched a lot of seminar vids from very high level instructors...never been so impacted by this one! BRILLIANT Chris! Absolutely the best mental understanding to Jiu-Jitsu on RU-vid!
This video is really illuminating. The Jiujitsu Gyms usually don't explain this kind of fundamental mechanism. They just teach how to do triangle choke, back take, etc. But beginners don't understand the reason for each limb's position. They including myself just slavishly follow the coach's guide. However, without this kind of knowledge, his jiujitsu level never grows. Thanks to this video, I fell like I opened to a new level. I appreciate it.
Chris Paines, you are amazing. I also wondered why bjj instruction couldn't be more simple like boxing and muay thai. My bjj classes remind me of kung fu classes (the first martial arts I studied), learning 1 million different attacks, then learning 1 million counters. Like you mentioned, when I do kickboxing, I only think of a few things. When I do bjj, I scan through my rolodex of techniques... and hope I have the right one memorized. My goal is to find a way to train with you in person one day.
A whole Rolex simplified into 1 concept… this is what I’ve needed. I’m gonna grow so fast. I feel like I found a cheat code lesson. Hahah lucky white belt vibes
Thank you so much for the understanding you have given in this seminar. My mind is blown to find out why we do what we do even though I have been doing this and seeing this for years. This is definitely going to change my game and I will forever remember this . Very grateful to you and of course Priit as well. Thank you again.
Listened to the Concepts over Techniques episode on BJJ Mental Models Podcast on the way to work. Got home and watched this video. After a year of training things actually make a lot more sense! Thanks 🙏🏻
"Been having this as my focus for the last 3 years - only training like twice a month, because life. I can defend against people who trained every session for the last 3 years." 10/10
thanks for the clear and understandable explanation, I used to have difficult to learn Defensive Jiu-jitsu for a long time, after watching this video, I think now I have a better understanding about those Hawking, Running Man, etc, etc
damn! with this concept, you could be black belt in 4 years: -1 year: survive all attacks (concept taught here) -1 year: prevent/escape all bad positions (concept taught here) -1 year: get and keep all control positions (another simple concept similar to the one taught here) -1 year: a few basic submissions here and there that they will always see coming but will not be able to avoid (Roger Gracie concept :-) that was the talk. now the walk..
Full points for the uke, he did a great job helping you illustrate some great lightbulb moment coaching, great sound quality and video content. Faultless content all round 👌
I used to box and Muay Thai as a man in my 20s. Now in my 40s I am starting my BJJ journey. This makes so much sense and simplifies alot. My couch is a good guy but I feel like we are trying to remember alot of moves and moves with in moves but no real concept or themes or rules of thumb. This is much more what I want. Because in a real fight your not going to remember what was taught in class you need basics that can be done in any situation. This is gold.
This dovetails nicely with what Greg Souders is doing. Top player objective- gain access to center mass. Do not allow bottom player to obtain top position, ie get their hips higher than your hips. Flatten the opponent. Deny their ability to isolate a limb or control the back. Isolate a limb, ie an arm, neck, wrist. Submit. Bottom guy. Deny access to center mass. Deny ability to isolate a limb. Isolate a limb. Gain control of the back. attain top position. This is the entirety of Jiu Jitsu.
Dude, this is probably what I'm going to start using. Due to hip and back isssues, I have trouble retaining guard, I think this will be very beneficial for me.
Summary: - Chris Paines emphasized the concept of control in jiu-jitsu, defining it as whoever exists between the other person's knees and armpits. - Paines highlighted the difference between traditional martial arts and jiu-jitsu, which focuses on predicament solution rather than defensive postures. - He encouraged changing the approach to defense and attack by considering control and timing. - Paines introduced drills and concepts such as the running man position and not allowing the opponent to control the ankles and wrists.
8 month white belt and this has blown my mind, amazing video with clear instruction. Going to find the other resources to get further down the rabbit hole.
As l continued watching the video my question was answered. I now see how this could be applied to both sports and self defense. Thank you for the excellent instructional video. The is ground breaking information to the grappling Community. Thx Coach AL
Thanks a lot for this instruction. Now, I wonder where punch defense fits into this concept of gluing your elbows to your hips? Looks to me like deliberately taking your guard down. Having a big focus on self defense, I would be grateful, if you could clearify and help me put that puzzle together. Thank you.
I really liked this video - here's a struggle I wasn't anticipating. It's incredibly easy to just float with chest pressure on top of the "running man" transition. You can control that inside space easily, it's very hard for people to get grips, but that little barrel roll to recover guard is really, really hard to actually do well. Especially against someone who is bigger than you (145lbs, so everyone for me). Obviously the majority of the concepts here are helpful and I actually like that running man position, but it's been more effective when I wait for them to move and then decide to move vs taking away their grips/entries and then barrel rolling. Just my .02, they can very easily chest pressure and float to end up on the other side. Like, maybe I'll try TWO barrel rolls, idk idk.
Thank you for writing all of this. Do you wanna drop me a message and I'll see if I can help fix any issues you're having. I'm pretty easy to find via the usual places.
I see using this position in sports Jujitsu but please tell me if you will use it in a self Defense position? I'm thinking it could potentially be used it you transition quickly in a self Defensive position maybe to turtle and back to guard? Please advise. Thx Coach AL
Hi Chris, awesome video, this style of teaching really resonates with me. I’m a 6 month white belt so feel a bit overwhelmed with the sheer number of techniques and counter techniques. I love this more simple concept and will try and apply it to my game. One question though you mention never let your opponent get control between your knees and your armpits which makes perfect sense. I didn’t hear you mention not letting opponents get control of your neck, for instance your opponent reaching round and instead of trying to get under hook under armpit they get arm over the neck. Is it vital also you never should let an opponent get control of your head/neck also? As I have seen other instructors mention this.
it is not if they have no control of your armpit and knee space They can hold your neck all day long - if they got no positional control - they cant choke you Just spin out At least this is what I got out of his words
Every thing and system has specific secrets that seem simple but are amazing.ev thing and system has a secret .....example (please try this but don't harm the fly....) A house fly or any fly if you point your finger and slowly approach a fly that has landed on a surface directly from behind ie it's rear the fly will not be able to move or fly away because the SECRET of a fly is that it needs to take a backward step to fly away so if you approach it from behind it can't take backward step to fly away it will look like you have a magic hypnotising finger etc hence ALL THINGS and SYSTEMS especially systems have SECRETS and SHORT CUTS and maximum respect to all the people and coaches who are the keepers of secret bjj knowledge and take time out to teach people hungry to learn this awesome knowledge STAY blessed peeps Ps no flies where hurt during the writing of this comment
Craig Jones and Catch/Follstyle wrestlers would argue that the best control in grappling is controlling the legs. For BJJ that means with the end goal of getting your opponent belly down mount (taking the back while staying on top) for the easy RNC choke. Controlling the upper body without the legs is far from ideal in grappling as the legs allows for explosive escapes or strong movement. MMA proves this. People prefer top half than passing for this reason.
I was play testing some of these and Priit’s concepts today and couldn’t come up with an answer to more of the dirty grappling techniques such as cross facing the nose to get the neck and simply choking over the face. Wondering if there’s solutions to this with this system?
Great stuff. Ryron Gracie put his survival techniques to the test against Andre Galvao in Metamoris. I would like to see Paines live rolling to see the theories in action.
Boxing is only 5 punches but limitless potential for different combos so you need knowledge on dealing with the amount of choice the offence has out of 5 numbers etc so what I'm saying is it still takes emense skill to be successful in the sport of boxing etc QUICK QUESTION ....how my combinations can you make out of all 5 numbers used in any way including from one only up to evsry combo up to 5 numbers ask a mathematician
Apply the concept in reverse. Attack that same space. If you control that space you will find openings. Once you control that space, don’t sacrifice the control for a submission or they will escape.
great. but the part about boxing... there are a myriad of ways to set up those 5 punches, the set ups are very complex and you dont have much time to think about them in a fight. in can be over ANY second
@@pixelcultmedia4252 I was talking more about the running man where they've already passed you, like 16:25 when he's trying to find your elbows. Sorry, I should have been more clear. Seems like there are a few opportunities on the neck that don't require elbow space. N-S choke, or no-arm guillotine.
That croutch position where your face is turned toward the ground, and your hip twisted, now with no levelof resistance, ok. About when an BJJ brown belt grids his way through it, and smashes/steam roll to his sub ??? I know most seminars do instruct with demo combined with litten to no resistance from blue belt assistants. What about that bron belt that would be determined to do what he usually does. When I trained grappling under Erik Paulson's ideology, I was trained to successfully choke someone even when the back mount had no hooks in. So ???
I have just viewed Pedro Sauer, teaching tbis croutch. Then this morning i surprisingly viewed JEFF Glover use it in compétition. My bad for judging you.sorry.
Whenever I teach this seminar at gyms, I ask the biggest brown belt or black belt to try and choke me in front of all the students, and I also preface it by saying if they win then I'll cancel the seminar and teach something else. Not had to change seminar yet. Charles Harriot also used to tell people at the joint seminars we did that he'd give $20 to anyone who could.
At 13:55 you effectively say that your BJJ is a sport and no longer a martial art. Try that on the street and you will get a PHD. And if you don't know what that means in street terms you have never spent a day in a real fight or for that matter around real street violence. And I do not mean PhD .
maybe he has never "spent a day" " in a real fight" or real street violence and he is smart in doing so. I would not be suprised if you get involved alot in "real street violence" and earn less than 4.000 a month
looks good. But why don't we see high level players use these ideas? for example, RNC. i recall seeing people grip fight and protect their neck with at least one hand.
This is what I was thinking too. If what he’s saying works at the highest levels, then why don’t we see the best people using it? Thinking outside the box is good, and using a conceptual approach to training is smart. But until I see these ideas succeeding at the highest levels, I will remain skeptical.
Hi. I just thought I'd add a few bits. Running Man is in the book Jiu-jitsu University by Saulo. This style of turtle is Telles. The style of open guard is Braulio. The bit about not letting people in those gaps when upright and passing guard is Mendes. It's literally every where at the highest level. I haven't met a black belt yet that doesn't include some or most aspects of this.
@@tukity yeah but do they grip fight - when there are no hooks in? He is not giving you the "magic pill" he is teaching you a concept. People with higher belts, will present you double trouble problems, where at some point somebody is quicker than your reactions and will invade your space. (between armpits and knees) THEN you have to resort to other layers of defense Also "defending" everything - means in other contexts "stalling". In BJJ Competition you get takendown 2 times - you are way back in points. You cant just sit there and let him have his grip - even if its just a control grip. In IBJJF rules there is a time limit - which means if you behind by points - you are losing - even if you are not submitted
@@ChrisPainesBJJ I've trained 4 yrs over last decade. Got back into it last 4 months. I'm older now but still good shape. But I enjoy learning from videos. I think I can progress much faster. I read jui jitsu University when I first started. The first part was survival positions. I still use the side control position glue elbow to my hip and under their weight and then my other arm hooks and blocks their arm from getting under my head. Works great. In afew hours I'm going to open mat and trying your moves out. I like your concepts. A concept is easy to use instead of a bunch of different moves.
This is ok for jiu jitsu class.. especially for an older, smaller guy like me.. but probably not for competition, because it’s just going to be viewed as stalling (which it kinda is) and please don’t try this in MMA or a real fight.. there’s reasons you don’t turn your back, especially when your on the ground.. because people can punch, elbow, knee or stomp your head, liver, kidneys and neck into mush.
