Spurs on Sockets in Electrical Installations

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Spurs on sockets, spurs on spurs, FCUs on sockets.
Can I add a socket in the garage?
Can I add a spur for the central heating boiler?
Can I take a cable from the bedroom sockets into the loft?
All these scenarios can cause some confusion to many, especially new starters in the trade and those at college.
This short but to the point video is intended to give some guidance on how to comply with the Wiring Regulations.
It explains what we can and can’t do, the breaker sizes that can be used and the very important selection of cable size.
You may also want to view the following video on this link.
SPURS ON SPURS … • SPURS ON SPURS Extendi...
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@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

SEE ALL VIDEOS - To view a list of all our LearnElectrics videos, click on the link below. There are many videos on many electrical topics including Installation, Part P, 18th Edition, Testing, Certification, Lighting, Sockets, Ring Circuits and much more. ru-vid.com/show-UCYaJQnpO4XAp0yCgqzMkmfA

@cygnus108 3 года назад

Thank you for the time and effort you put into your tutorials and making them available.

@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

You are very welcome Alex.

@mb-electricalservices 3 года назад

Again guys, brilliant as always. 👍

@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

Much appreciated comment, thanks. Dave.

@grantrodgers2829 3 года назад

Incredibly simple and very clear thanks

@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

Thanks for the great comment Grant. Appreciated.

@simonineile8085 3 года назад

really good clarity on radials in particular for me thanks guys, 👍👍 atb simon

@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

Thanks Simon, great feedback. Dave.

@chang723 3 года назад

Brilliant and explained well.

@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

Thank you, great feedback. Dave.

@ifyougetstucklookitup237 3 года назад

Thank you for your efforts. Appreciated

@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

You are very welcome. Lots more to come, in fact next video tomorrow. Cheers. Dave.

@3rrorProgramming Год назад

absolutely amazing videos and amazing explanations !

@learnelectrics4402 Год назад

Thank you Moammal, and thanks for watching. Dave.

@abdirizakhassan1073 3 года назад

Thanks Dave your time

@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

You are very welcome, glad you enjoy the videos. Dave.

@markrowland5393 3 года назад

Very clear, thanks.

@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

Thank you Mark.

@danielteyehuago1633 Год назад

Wow! This is very informative, thanks for sharing it with us. It worth it and the best tutorial on the topic for me...dl

@learnelectrics4402 Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks.

@CommonInvesting 3 года назад

Great video!! As always! Please do some practical videos where you explain 3 plate method, 2 plate, how to find the switch line etc. Just things you come across on the job, that would be excellent. Thanks again 🙌🏾

@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

Good idea David. Its in the thinking pot. Thanks for the feedback. Dave.

@paulperrin2152 2 года назад

Very useful

@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад

Thanks Paul, much appreciated comments, Dave.

@AkashPatel-uy6xb 3 года назад

Excellent sir 🙏👌

@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

Thanks for the nice positive feedback. Dave.

@amriabssamad4695 3 года назад

Nice one mate

@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

Thank you Amri. Happy to help.

@gay30000000000000000 3 года назад

Could you do a video on time delay rcd's how to test them and how they are used, please

@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад

That is actually in the pipeline Alan, thanks for asking. Dave.

@Dipen1984 Год назад

Great video, I am very grateful. One quick question, in the ring circuit after FCU with 1.5mm square cable, Zs is going to be reasonably heigher. What would be the max Zs acceptable for this circuit?

@learnelectrics4402 Год назад

Zs is determined by the breaker or fuse rating, not by the cable size. There is nothing to stop you using 2.5 after the FCU if you wish. Dave.

@hussmortada Год назад

Thank you once again for a great video. I am wondering if on a ring circuit wired in 2.5mm can we spur off with 4mm cable and create a series of sockets wired in radial using the 4mm cable?

@learnelectrics4402 Год назад

If you use a 13 amp fused connection unit to come off the ring BEFORE any sockets then yes. If not, then no. Hope this helps. Dave.

@hussmortada Год назад

@@learnelectrics4402 yes it is clear thank you.

@sarahjones4599 Год назад

Great video and many thanks. I have a question if I may. We are wanting to add more sockets in our kitchen but unsure if it is a radial or a ring cicuit, so don't want to risk adding more than one cocket if it is a ring circuit. What is the best way to add 3 sockets without knowing whether it is a ring or radial. Do we add an FCU and then connect 3 sockets to that? Many thanks in advance. it will be REALLY HELPFUL x

@learnelectrics4402 Год назад

Sarah, if you don't know what type of circuit it is then you have to assume it could be a ring and that then limits socket additions to just one accessory without using a fused spur rated at 13 amps. Once the fused spur (FCU) is installed you can take as many sockets off the FCU as you wish because you are limited to 13 amps max current along that line. Hope this helps. Dave.

@Gixer750pilot Год назад

Awesome . May I ask a question please . I have o e socket in my garaje coming directly from the consumer unit , so it’s a radial circuit . I have taken two spurs off that socket by the way of an MK logic rapid fit face plate. I have 3 sockets on each spur out . So my question is the RCD fitted is 16amp, but your video says I should use 20amp. Should I upgrade it ? I am using the correct 2.5mm cable .

@learnelectrics4402 Год назад

I think you mean the circuit breaker is 16 amp, not the RCD. Your 16 amp breaker is fine. 16 or 20 are out with 2.5 cable on radials, no need to change. Dave.

@Gixer750pilot Год назад

@@learnelectrics4402 yes I mean circuit breaker. Thanks Dave . I found your other video after which covered this . Subscribed !

@ashleywebb176 Год назад

Hi, great videos. Quick question..on a ring circuit, after a 13A fused spur you mention the cable size is 1.5mm. Can it still be 2.5mm with no issues?

@learnelectrics4402 Год назад

Definitely Ashley, 1.5mm is the smallest. 2.5mm is fine. Thanks for watching, Dave.

@currentsolutions8467 3 года назад

Hi Dave, just a quick update. I have checked a course provider and below is the qualification I'll gain doing the 9 week course: Building regs 18th edition 2391-50 2391-51 Will this be sufficient enough for me to get on to a scheme, or do I need further qualifications. Thanks

@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад

You also need proof of two years work experience. To get the experience lots of people just do minor works jobs which do not need you to be registered. Take loads of photos of your work, issue a Minor Works Certificate for every job, however small. The photos and the Certificates will be your proof of two years work. I know a few sparkies who only do Minor Works and are making in excess of £500 a day. Also, check out Napit or NICEIC website for the latest joining requirements. Good luck. Dave.

@deanmorris3696 2 года назад

Love these videos, but I have a question. Today I attended a Napit exams and it started with some multiple choice questions. Question was ‘ how many sockets can be installed after a non switched fused spur on ring final circuit’ I got it wrong. Apparently it only 1 can be installed. Do you think this is correct?

@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад

Based on what you have written, I know that it is not correct. Look at page 505 of the Wiring Regs book. At the 3 o-clock position on the diagram, it clearly shows more than one socket connected to a non switched fused spur, along with confirmatory words. Hope this helps, especially if your success in the exams depended on this question. Good luck, Dave.

@deanmorris3696 2 года назад

@@learnelectrics4402 Thank you

@pah9844 Год назад

Question; when dropping down after an FCU does it have to be 1.5 or can it remain 2.5mm Thanks

@learnelectrics4402 Год назад

Absolutely it can be 2.5. Thanks for watching Paul.

@ajayb2478 2 года назад

Silly question, Can you do a spur from a light switch to a socket?

@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад

No. first its not good practice to go lighting to power. Second, there is no neutral in the light switch. Hope this helps. Dave.

@ajayb2478 2 года назад

@@learnelectrics4402 Thank you for replying

@raj080288 7 месяцев назад

if the fuse in the spur blows, would the sockets attached to it after stop working too?

@learnelectrics4402 7 месяцев назад

Definitely. Anything downstream of a fused spur will lose power if the fuse goes, if the circuit is wired correctly. Take a look at this video on radial socket spurs. Lots more info. Thanks for watching. Dave. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Et7CpEwFEzg.html

@raj080288 7 месяцев назад

@@learnelectrics4402 Thanks Dave, appreciate your response. Keep up the good content 👌🏼