Long femurs = lowbar squat= more weight. I have short femurs and therefore I have to squat highbar, otherwise its impossible to hit depth and not fall over without rounding my back and then have lower back issues. I also pull sumo. I'm 6'1 and just turned 23. My squat is 230kilos, my bench is 160kilos and my deadlift is 290kilos. He is right but he was wrong with saying that long femurs give you a more upright squat, but your long femurs allow you to squat lowbar and therefore have a stronger squat imo
Ngl i focus on my squat the most and try to bench as much as possible, deadlifts rarely feel good to me and racking then reracking the weight is like hell when your day is already pretty fked up
@@levipotter9373 nice dude! i’m currently at 182. i haven’t been able to squat heavy in a few months bc of a hip injury but i’m slowly getting back into it. you def have a more well balanced big 3 haha
Sounds completely impossible to me. My deadlifts is 60 kg stronger than my squat. I've yet to squat 200 kg. A this point I think I will deadlifts 300 kg before I squat 5 plates.
Same here man. I can always go up on my deadlift and I never do sumo. I'm 5'9" at 179lbs and my deadlift goes up as I please without over eating. My bench only seems to go up if I eat a lot and train it very hard.
The other guy is right. Colin has done near 800 for deadlift but benches around 550 I believe. But Julius Maddox probably tops out near 700 tops with deadlift but benches almost 800
I think the most common source of people squatting more than they deaflift is Starting Strength convincing people they need to do 1 set of 5 for deadlifts every other week and 3 sets of 5 for squats every other day.
I doubt it. Squats are generally gonna grow the mess out of the deadlift. The deadlift's just not that technical. Though, I agree people should and definitely can afford to deadlift more, even if it's sumo, stiffleg, and rdls for disadvantaged lifter.
That's nonsense. As a beginner myself (11 months), I feel like even I'm qualified to respond to a comment about a beginner programme. I've been squatting mostly twice a week and doing less frequent DL work (some RDLs, some actual DL). I almost pull (170kg) my squat (100) and bench (80) combined. It took me nearly 6 months to even manage to squat to depth (parallel) with any amount of weight and only recently have I acquired the flexibility to squat to depth with no bar (it's so much more comfortable with a plate on my back to help me get down). I tried just walking out from the rack with 120kg the other day (with no intention of trying to squat it) and my back hurt in about 5 places. It felt crazy heavy. The thought of somebody squatting more than they DL hurts me to even think about. I could probably squat twice a week for the next 5 years without ever DL and still pull more (my quads[/grip] are the limiting factor on my DL anyway). Some people just aren't built for certain lifts lol, and I'm only 6ft1 so hardly an extreme example (6ft6 wingspan).
Please don’t do deadlifts and squats when youre 13. You can with EXTREMELY light weight, but avoid it at all if possible. I don’t see a problem with bench though. I hope you don’t ignore this, as everyone says this for young people. But only because there is a certain truth to that. It’s amazing you’re going to the gym at 13, make it a habit and a priority especially for your age and don’t let anybody give you any shit about it.
Long femurs here. My current deadlift max (245lbs, conventional) is almost 100lbs higher than my squat max of only 165lbs. It's kind of annoying how I always lean super far forward with my squats, even when I go low-bar on my back squat 🙄
It took me a while to realize that. I’m 5’7 and have very short femurs, and my deadlift is absolute ass. I bench 200, squat 300+, but I haven’t even been able to break 300 on my deadlift. It annoys me so much since I’ve spent countless hours dedicated to improving my form on all three lifts, but my deadlift just won’t grow despite having near perfect form.
Today I failed 335 deadlift 3 times in the same day then hit it on 4th try Messy form but I was able to lock it out, for me it was a confidence thing in my own ability because I was a lil scared to go through with the movement and almost headed home without a PR.
Can someone clarify this for me? Length is relative, so short femurs means long torso, and long femurs means short torso. Tibia length is irrelevant to your big three leverages. With long femurs, conventional deadlifts will be easier because your torso is short and upright, and your glutes and hamstrings are stronger and more engaged since you are sitting back more. With short femurs, sumo should be easier since your torso is long, you want to be in an upright position to negate that limiting factor. For squats, long femurs causes you to use your glutes and hamstrings as well, which makes low bar easier and stronger. short femurs causes you to be more upright, which means high bar squats should be easier. I don’t see how bench is affected by the length of your lower body or torso, but I would assume the length of your arms for range of motion, the size of your rib cage for ROM, and I’ve heard broad shoulders helps but I’m not sure why. Supposedly weight also matters by reducing rom, but I’m not sure how increased fat affects leverages exactly. If you have both long femurs and long torso, you are just tall, and the inverse is true for being short.
My numbers (so far) for squat, bench, and deadlift are 575lbs/355lbs/635lbs. I trained deadlift and bench much more early on but have always thought that my squat would be my best lift if I trained it more. Closing in on 600lbs for the squat now. I almost completely stopped going heavy on bench about 1.5 years ago because I had some kind of strain/injury in my right arm from arm wrestling that made pressing annoying. Can still hit 300 or so but I haven't pushed it.
Honestly, I think it's just his form. Look at it, he is trying to pull everything with his back and no leg. The deadlift is primarily a leg movement. Doesn't mean you have to squat it, but you can't just pull with your back and expect good results.
My body is definitely favouring deadlifts. I have long arms and a long waist, but am relatively short. Long arms is worse for benchpress and does nothing for squats, but my deadlift is way higher than my squat. Granted, I still lift very light compared to veterans so maybe it will stabilize over time
5’8 225 My bench first at 475 Squat next at 555 Deadlift last at 585 Those are my prs, I don’t where I am now since I don’t do 1 rep maxes anymore, but id be interesting to try again
I'm in the great squat and great deadlift crew. Long torso, short legs, short femurs relative to tibia, long arms. Sumo and squat I can do easily. Bench I'm pretty bad at. People always shit on sumo and say "it's not a real deadlift" yet conveniently ignore the fact that conventional is far better suited to the long leg, short torso crew. Someone with a long torso, and god forbid also short arms, is at an absolutely huge disadvantage doing conventional deadlift.
Today I failed 335 deadlift 3 times in the same day then hit it on 4th try Messy form but I was able to lock it out, for me it was a confidence thing in my own ability because I was a lil scared to go through with the movement and almost headed home without a PR.
Long femurs and high bar squat is me unfortunately. I love high bar more than low bar even though I have to bend my upper back to balance out the weight. Thoracic rounding is okay.
This is surely the opposite of the truth. The whole point of this video basically boils down to "tall people pull more, short people squat and bench more". Tall = heavy. So the opposite of what you said.
I can barely bench, barely dead lift, but as a sprinter I can squat hella. Also my back can't stay stiff so it feels like my back finna snap, unless I use a trap bar.
Im never going to deadlift again. 3 coaches and hours of research on how to do it correctly, or alternative variations. Back is still fucked for 4-5 days after, sometimes a week or more.
i feel the same way as justin and professional weak guy, i deadlift 405 squat 315 and bench 205 im 15 and im 5’11 and have been lifting for 5 months i feel like i am a deadlift specialist ig 😭
That's pretty close to me, good thing you started lifting earlier than me tho. I'm 19 and 5'11, my deadlift and bench are just a bit higher than yours, squat is the same. You might have long arms like me, my wingspan is 6'3.
i have the same bench, squat and height, but deadlift 45lbs less than you, so you probably have very good deadlift leverages. I also train for three years, so you made pretty awesome progress.
@@Singularity8 yeah man i have pretty long arms, dk my exact wingspan but yeah im 15 started lifting 5 months ago and id say i lift good numbers, i think i could have crazy numbers in the future 💪🏼
@@fred9148 thanks alot man💪🏼i like the way my progress is moving too , i think i do have good deadlift leverages , i wanna be able to hit 700 in the next couple years 💪🏼, but setting small goals rn and js trynna keep moving on and get strong
ive got a very strong bench (130kgs; but i think im gonna hit 140kgs very soon, i dont 1rm often) good squat (130×9 i think i can hit 160) and a horrible deadift, ive never deadlifted more than 140. my over head press is also p good. my squat would be better if i didnt skip legs as often as i do
I love how everyone is lying about their lifts 😂 When I go to any gym hardly anybody is doing these kind of weights, but when I read RU-vid comments, every 16 year old is a natural elite level lifter. I'm 100% certain most people add a good 50-100 pounds to the weight when talking about it here. The absolute amount of "I benched 225 when I was 14 and started training" going around is ridiculous.
Same here bruh Huge as dead 185kg Huge as squat (ex leg skipped took things seriously in Sept 2020) 145kg Not bad bench 105 kg After figuring out how to push
im 16, almost 17, my max deadlift is 335 and 315 for 5 reps, just hit that on thursday, go ahead call me weak or whatever idc, bench is 185 working on hitting 225 before or by december, and my squat is measly 255, after and when i hit 225 bench ill be wokring on hitting 405 deadlft soon and maybe, 500 deadlift by december, after i hit 225 bench and 405 deadlift ill be wokring on getting my squat up again and want to squat 315 before febuary 2024 or sooner
I’m definitely better at squat/bench than deadlift because of my proportions. I trained deadlifting for months and could barely hit 400. Meanwhile on squats it took roughly a month and a half and I got to 415 and the very first time I did barbell bench I hit 205 for 5 reps. Also for context I didn’t do much lifting for muscle or strength gains beforehand and I was 16.
Long femurs pushes your hips further back and requires you to either lean farther forward or greatly improve ankle mobility to keep the weight centered. So long femurs are actually a hinderence to your squat.
See, idk wtf I have, but I will say I love squatting more (I feel like it's 100x more impressive than deadlifting) than deadlifting even though I have a decent deadlift (500 lbs). I have rarely deadlifted, but my deadlift is really good I just don't like training the deadlift bc sqauting is more impressive especially a high bar sqaut that's atg ( my atg high bar sqaut max is 485). It's funny bc my friends tell me I could have an easy 600 lb squat if I went to parallel and did lowbar but the high bar and going fully atg is just so much more impressive and I feel it in my quads way more that way. I have a decent bench as well (385 lbs) and it's hard to do all three PL movements per week so I just throw out the deadlifting and I'll do it every now and then with my friends. Also, my deadlift pr was done conventional.
I have short arms and short legs. Can't really squat, myscle bound+arm injury so can't hold bar in my back. But my bench is 195 and my deadlift is 265😂 I don't like that closeness
see i think i’ve got the leverages for big squat and bench, but in reality im an ex dancer with column legs and noodle upper body so atm my squat and DL outrank my bench significantly
I got really long femurs and short shins and STUPID long arms (6’5 wingspan at 5’11) so I am great at deadlift, not so hot at squat, and absolute shite at bench
