I absolutely adore Nic and his takes on the industry. It’s refreshing to hear things from a perspective I can relate to on a higher level as a fellow pro bike shop mechanic. Hope he’s back every now and then!
Thank you Emily , Jimmi and Nic. I think you are underrated , because of the positive ..philosophy , you all seem to have ! I am a survivor of cancer and a huge fan , for a lot of reasons . Awareness is huge , so thanks for the info , even if it's only one guy that tests !! I do know about Francis' Dad....yeah , I hope they are both OK . Be well .
Well done for highlighting prostate cancer on the show. I was diagnosed at 47! I had zero symptoms, but a PSA test highlighted some high numbers. I had the option to have my prostate robotically removed which I opted for. Amazing results. Do not be scared of getting checked, the treatments these days are amazing, and no, I didn’t need to take that much time off the bike.
It's always operated by the surgeon. Robotic surgery just means that surgeon operates via controllers rather than directly with instruments , and provides better approach, control and results compared to laparoscopic surgery.
Thankyou for talking about mental health. I'm a 47 year old man. I was diagnosed with depression at 17 and looking back was depressed since about 11. I've had all the treatment the NHS is offering (CBT, psychologist etc) and those things have run out for me. I still have a psychiatrist but they are not willing to change my meds as the cocktail I am on is big. They are keeping me stable for the most part. Men definitely need to open up more and talk about the things that are bothering them and let out their emotions more rather than just bottling everything up. I wish I had done this when I was younger maybe I wouldn't be like I am now. I have been thinking of taking up cycling and for the past few months been looking in to things and hopefully will be getting my bike next week. I just want to get fitter and get out and do something. I'm next to the Peak District so I have a lot of places to ride. Loving the podcast I look forwards to every episode. I do have a question for Nick. The bike I am getting can have up to 42mm tyres am I too heavy at 95kg (6'3 tall but I still need to lose weight) for tubeless? What tyre widths could I use?
Works no problem im 110 soaking wet and used to ride 32mm gp5000 continental tires... Now im on 40mm maxxis on my touring bike :) go for it. What bike are you looking at?
@@Broken__Reality Nice, congrats! Bike rides are my meditation and lifts me up, gets me into a good mental state always successfully! Have fun on your rides, and don't worry about what you are wearing, as long as it keeps you going outside continuously! ❤🤙
As a urologist, I have to say, not all was said is entirely ‘true’, but it’s great that you’re making some awareness about prostate cancer. The whole prostate cancer/prostatitis/erectile dysfunction association with cycling is a huge minefield and poorly understood… but great that it’s being talked about rather than people staying quiet. Keep it up team!
Refreshing to listen to a cycling podcast that isn't just about cycling, props to you guys for talking about mental health and other normal human topics
on the other hand, if i listen to a cycling podcast, i actually want to listen about cycing stuf... I just wanted to listen about cycling stuff... but no, insted I was reminded that I'm gonna die, either from multiple types of cancer, or I'll just end it a bit earlier...
As a GP, PSA tests need to be carefully considered as it’s not a very specific test for cancer. 3 in 4 men with a raised PSA will not have cancer. But to find out if it is significant you will need to probably have quite invasive tests to biopsy your prostate. Also a large amount of prostate cancer is low grade and does not require treatment and in fact the treatments are more detrimental to a man’s health. The PSA test is therefore not robust enough to screen a population for cancer, unlike breast, bowel and cervical cancer screening, where early diagnosis saves a lot of lives and the tests/checks are much better and specific for cancer. If >65 and have symptoms then defo get checked.
Sorry disagree with you. The PSA test is not perfect but it's the best test we have without getting a biopsy done. Only for the PSA test I wouldn't have been diagnosed with Prostate Cancer at 46. Might of been dead now only for it... if there is a history of prostate cancer in your family you need to get tested yearly from age 40, tested from age 45 if no history in your family.
Agree wth you. I have an enlarged prostate and consistently high PSA levels (10 to 12). 2 biopsies haven’t found anything other than inflammation so PSA is not a good determinant.
Hope it’s tata for now for Nick and not goodbye. Great perspective on topics from his hands on experience dealing and working with bike brands every day
there are different composites of stainless steels as there are of chrome-steel. I didn't do my research, but stainless steel means that there is min. around 11% of chrome in it. Which would lead me to think that chrome-steel is also just stainless steel but fancy
i think Nic might be slightly mistaken on ceramic bearings. He's correct that the ball bearings are ceramic and the race is a treated steel or alloy but they definitely don't last longer. The ceramic ball bearing has a hardness of rockwell C 75, even with the treated steel that he's talking about our technology only brings steel up to Rockwell C 60ish, which doesn't seem like much but that means the harder ceramic bearing will wear away the steel race over time. Repeat that over a few hundred km's you'll not only be causing premature wear but also losing watts. Steel on steel bearings are still currently the best for longevity. assuming no corrosion.
I was a person that use to race cat 3 and cyclocross. At 22, last year I got testicular cancer. I was very proactive and went straight to the GP. Within a month at the NHS I was having surgery and luckily it was caught at stage one. Had chemo and currently all clear 🤞
I honestly believe this is one of the best podcasts on RU-vid at the moment. I genuinely look forward to your content. Great dynamic, genuinely interesting & relatable content. Keep it up!!!
My brother's friend ended his life recently. He's a fellow mountain biker. I don't know him personally, but it reminds me that this mental health issue is real anywhere.
There was a well known tourer riding in all seasons around the planet, I think he had a channel on YT, he also left this way a few years ago. I would love to have similar endurance and strength, it's hard to understand even if I often feel down too, that's why we should never compare ourself with other people, or only very superficially...
Excellent pod as usual, really good to see you exploring men's health issues, particularly MH. As a long time sufferer with unwanted black dog, it's REALLY IMPORTANT to talk to someone, to get help, to open up. I can remember wanting to chuck myself in front of trains, crying in public, and generally falling apart. I needed some help, and thankfully, I got it. PLEASE NOTE: the NHS MH services are (and always have been) appallingly under-resourced relative to physical illness. It's not because the people are bad, it's because there isn't enough service to go round. Personally, I use cycling as much for therapy as exercise or enjoyment - it's literally a lifeline for me. Final point, thanks to Nic for his contribution, I'm not his biggest fan but he does add a certain...frisson
I really enjoy Emily’s commentary. Always supremely articulate and informed. Ya’ll reminded me of my UK mate & ultra-distance mentor Lee Fancourt. Took his own life, gone but never forgotten.
I really enjoy how Emily is more outspoken now on all of the topics and feeling more comfortable, while also doing the producer job. Miss Francis, but Nic was fantastic. Highly underrated. Always a joy to listen to you guys - in whatever constellation
Just a minor/silly request.... when naming the videos.... can you put "The Wild Ones" in the front of the video title? Only reason is when previewed it's hard to tell if its the podcast or not because it gets cut off! Thanks....... As always, very enjoyable listening!
Don't often comment on social media but had to say kudos for an excellent show. Thank you for dealing with wider topics such as health and mental health issues. Proud to say I've been good about annual checkups including a PSA check (normal thank goodness). Please keep up the great work!
MAny GPs are resident to performing a PSA test due to lack of recourse and results are often inconclusive. Lack of regular screening for men bits is shameful. Thanks for highlighting this issue along with the men's suicide.
This is a great episode. I think you have to keep Nic as a presenter, his insight and attitude has been invaluable. On the subject of "Influencers", who are these people? I don't follow IG or any other similar media but I get the impression that they are people who are famous but have actually done f*** all to deserve it. They have no expertise, talent or experience to pass on other than how they have manipulated media to become well known. I am influenced by people who are experts in their field, not Paris Hilton, KK or Liz Hurley. The health related issues are so important though as a typical bloke, I hold up my hands as the last resort is to seek professional help.
I was working at home and I suddenly went "Wait… I know that question!" Thanks for answering and always appreciate when you guys also discuss the more serious topics like mental health, its what really sets this place apart from the miasma of other cycling content.
@21:10 "sadness comes and goes, I think there is no need to act" - my doc when I told him, that I am "not feeling good". even getting to the doc to talk about this, costs me lots of strength. Took a while to another try at andother doc, got a diagnosis. Had lots of trouble/cost me more strength finding a place for a therapy. Ended up paying it myself, cause I cant wait "at least eight months". Sums up the experience I had with "one of the top 10 healthcare systems "(depends on where you are looking). Made my think how bad are the others...
A lot of the instagram posters just look so phoney. I see these model type 20/30 girls on £12k Pinarellos covered in Rapha//MAAP, white shoes with not a single mark on them and all those bullshit ‘#living life’ tags They just don’t look like us actual weekend warriors covered in grime and eating cakes
Sorry, but enduro bearing or even ceramic bearings are just a scam and good steel bearings are just better. The hard ceramic balls just destroy the steel racers. You can not build those out of ceramic, because ceramics are just to brittle. They are just better for about 500 kilometers and that it. Just buy bearings from one of the major bearing manufactures like SKF, NTN, NSK and FAG ...
One of the greatest strengths as a man is knowing your own weaknesses and vulnerabilities and not being ashamed that you're not emotionally and mentally perfect. Self denial and projection are toxic and won't get you where you want to go. Honesty, humility and being open minded to changing your life habits or ways of thinking to grow and heal as a healthy human. It's a win/win if you do.
I learnt a lot from Nic in this video. His common sense approach and advice regarding torque settings was invaluable. Everything he said made perfect sense. I stripped a bolt on my new bar stem after trying to rigidly stick to the settings displayed on the stem. A lesson learnt. Thanks again.
Glad to hear this encouragement to see the doctor. My wife is one. There is *nothing* they have not seen. Your body is a series of systems, tubes, levers and pumps that need to be maintained the same as a bike is. Please never ever be put off going by embarrassment. Your *insert issue* is as routine to them as having your brakes bled is to an experienced bike mechanic. My oldest friend died last June because he didn’t see a doctor when it could have made a difference. SEE YOUR DOCTOR.
i never heard of a steel race that can hold up long term with ceramic bearings. after a short while of use, they need replacement. corrosion in bearings is just something that we have to deal with.
Guys really appreciate the good intention behind the health chat but would suggest getting a GP or someone else medical to clarify the advice, the recommendations around PSA testing are a bit cloudy at the moment because of causing unnecessary biopsies etc
re: mental health. The biggest problem in addressing issues is thinking things aren't bad enough and/or the doctor won't understand. Just go and tell the truth. Doctors have heard it all before and will not think you're weird or whiny etc. And mental health issues can be addressed with so many strategies. Don't listen to your friend who tells you to eat broccoli and think good thoughts.
Prostate Cancer is the number one cancer killer of men over 50. Many of those symptoms that you mentioned are also symptoms of benign prostatic hypertrophy (BPH) which is much more common than prostate cancer. Hormone replacement therapy is a risky process and should be avoided if possible for men and women. Mental health is a very specialized area of health care. Don’t accept just a prescription from a primary care physician! Ask for and insist on a referral to a mental health specialist. Care should be multidisciplinary and not just a pill. Prolonged stress and traumatic life events actually change brain chemistry leading to depression and anxiety. It’s a complicated disease and should be treated as such! Good podcast. These things need to be talked about and stigma that goes along with it needs to be eliminated!
As is usually the case with Auto manufacturers, there are two types of recalls. One is a voluntary recall, which is the case with SRAM as they have identified an issue before tonnes of people have been affected by it. Then there is the case with Shimano, which is an involuntary/forced recall, after much public outcry and force of class action lawsuit. As for Nick's point on how torquing as a method of tightening bolts to a correct pre-load measurement being a dark art is quite apt description. Per AJAX Fastener Hand Book, feel/operator judgement's accuracy is around 35% while torque wrenches operate at around 25% accuracy. The gold standard of measuring pre-load is Strain Gauges, which would cost 20 times more than use of a torque wrench. Many factors, including surface texture (cut or rolled threads), surface coatings/lubrication, thread interference, and speed of tightening affect the torque-tension relationship and up to 25% variation in pre-load can be measured on similar fasteners receiving identical torque. The minimum standard recommended for consistency in controlled tightening of fasteners is light oil lubrication. For instance a standard finish bolt that is recommended with 10 Nm tightening torque is valid for light oil lubrication, if you use grease/anti-seize the toque needs to adjusted by a factor of 0.7 and even then this is a guide. On the mental health side of things, I think the issue is always the fact that most of us are not very good at noticing the issues. Moreover, we live in a day and age that many are addicted to various things (phones, i-media in general, added sugar in our food, ...); thus, mood swings are quite common across wide spectrum of people. Another issue is that most of us including myself think of ourselves as experts in various fields with just reading a book or a news snippet. So, the issue of mental health is not just matter of opening up to friends and colleagues; rather being more in touch with our inner self to figure out what's actually going on within us. This is further highlighted on the first overrated/underrated section question. People these days are so focused on the outside world that they can't make up their own mind. If you enjoy cycling, you should just ride because you enjoy it. Alas, we feel the need to be validated by others, whether positive or negative. 31:50 I don't believe that we are programmed to put up a mask to show the best of us in social settings. We are rather pressured to do so from early age. Have you ever noticed that kids do what they like to do, because they just like to do it. As adults we are just not in-tune with our true emotions anymore.
This is my new favourite RU-vid channel. I look forward to Thursdays as it gives me chance to listen to it on my lunchtime walk. It’s great, informative and intelligent chat. Keep up the good work please!
Thanks for this episode!! I think it is so important for us to destigmatize healthcare in many facets, especially for men. We need to end the thought that going to a doctor for ANY reason is being weak or "un-manly". I would also implore EVERYONE to PLEASE WEAR SUNSCREEN. Minimum 30 spf. Sure, it's nice to get that dark golden bronze look during the summer and crisp bib short tan lines but the risk for skin issues is not worth it in the long run. Cheers you guys!!
I'm with the Mavic shirt guy on the SRAM bolt-gate thing. If you don't know to test that your levers are not moving and not crushing your bars, you shouldn't be doing the installation. People should stop relying on reading a number and assuming all is well.
A friend of mine was experiencing severe mental and drug related issues a few years ago. I cant remember the exact waiting time but after reaching out to his GP, the wait for a therapist appointment was several months and then the following appointment was several months again. Fortunately, he reached out to friends and covid came at a perfect time for him to do a total reset, he managed to give up the drugs and alcohol, and started running. He has managed to totally turn his life around but with the waiting time being several months, I can see why some people who don't have a support network or are afraid of opening up to people may not be so lucky. I understand the NHS is stretched to breaking point but for something that kills such a huge proportion of men, the amount of time after first contact with the GP and seeing a therapist is far too large.
Torque rating is not a dark art it's pretty simple if you want to measure torque reliably you have to measure fasteners stretch. Here you go thank me later 😂 Seriously torque wrench are useful "forecasting" tools...
Torque doesn't measure friction, it's the force used so that the screws get enough friction to not rattle out. Torque = Force * leverage, M=F*l Friction is only a Force, and you measure it as a force.
For lever tightening, what I found best is using an L shaped hex wrench (instead of T) and use the short side to hold and torque and torque as hard as I can. Since you are torqueing holding the short side, you aren't able to put much force into it and you don't really reach the maximum recommended torque value but get very close. This also means you can move the levers a little if you apply force but they are tight enough to ride.
Regarding going or not to the hospital, we have to keep in mind that a checking or a disease cured early is way cheaper for the society than a serious disease spotted too late.
I had the issue with some apex levers - it was taking 4nm to turn the bolt, so looked like the Loctite so cleaned it, reapplied some fresh Loctite and put it back together. No worries for 3 years since. That's kind of a basic maintenance thing rather than a recall, but fair play to sram for making it more public than it would have been if it wasn't called a recall.
A great podcast, thank you. Touching on the cancer part. I’m just back from cycle 2 Chemotherapy for stage 4 Lymphoma. This is the second round of chemotherapy after lasts years didn’t work. Where does this fit in with cycling ? If I wasn’t so fit through cycling I would have almost certainly expired last May. Cycling as often as possible around my chemo , is an essential part of my treatment. Not just for the physical circulation benefits, but for the mental health benefits too. Cancer as I’m sure many of your viewers / listeners will agree with is a very lonely and tiring condition. Getting out on my bike on the road or Zwift really helps me get through each week , and my prognosis is very good. Ref influencers/ social media. Some great points on the podcast , I have a few go to channels and I enjoy them all, others I drift in and out of. One word of warning though. Be careful who you challenge in the comments. One of my posts was twisted beyond belief and the implications on my job and personal life could have had a major negative effect. All sorted now. Lesson for me. Not everyone is cycling is a nice person.
Stainless steel bearings are usually softer than regular carbon steel bearings. There is less carbon in stainless steel, so it is often not as hard. In my experience they don't rust, but they wear out just the same in my riding environment. There are full ceramic bearings in some jockey wheels like from kogel and ceramicspeed. But for wheels, hubs and bottom brackets, they are too fragile. Ceramic bearings are a waste of time and money. The price does not always reflect the quality and they don't last as long as advertised.
Certain medical procedures feel invasive or, in other situations, undesirable, but, whether your medical professional is of the same or different gender, I have always told myself that I am receiving care for a legimate reason, the caregiver is qualified, doing what is required to provide me the care I need and is acting professionally and that has always set me at ease. I have even had conversations about sensitive topics and feeling fine to do so because I have gone through the same checklist and come to the conclusion that the conversation with this person is appropriate.
commenting as I’m watching…. 1. I rather a stranger fundling my bits than someone I know. specifically related to medical procedures. 2. love that you guys are going above cycling topics.
25 y/o here, Last check up I had was when I was 19, Used to have weighed 120, i know unhealthy, but added 40 more since been away from family, Never really wanted to get involved with doctors, but it was really getting bad caused by sleep apnea, now, Started getting treatment for it, Doing medications right now cause of everything had risen up from blood pressure, sugar and everything. Ff, January, slow progress but still cycling for work transpo, February, doing a walk for everyday for 30 mins or more. Definitely wanna lose all this unnecessary stuff. Everyone, Please get checked, Take the hit on your money, but it’s for your health and betterment. Stubbornness is just gonna hold you back further and further.
through rugby I've built a network of orthopedics so I really only go to my specialist for Crohn's. I have enough experience with injuries to know when I'll need surgery, rest, or a boot off amazon.
I think with "social media influencers" if we're talking of the likes of Puck Moonen and others it generally depends on what they do. For me I just didn't see the point in looking at posts where they would be at Assen driving a car very fast around a track to be in anyway relatable to what they were supposed to be an influencer for ie cycling. Puck obviously has the most followers which for the most part has nothing to do with her cycling and the above example is why it can be frustrating. I don't mind if they're plugging this or that wear as I don't have to buy it but there are things that I can't abide with and I guess this ties in with mental health. Take Imogen Cotter's experience with a road accident she faced a couple of years back - it's powerful to see her talk so openly about the PTSD she gets at certain points going through the same road and elsewhere and be a champion for better road safety for cyclists. This I can get on board with. With Puck, in that brief moment when she was a pro, bails out of a race due to a panic attack and puts it towards being a mental health issue is just thoroughly unprofessional and why I can't get on board with it. There are ways to promote mental health in cycling but Puck's just felt like a starter course in dishonesty and does other cyclists a disservice. But I can only speak from my own perspective.
Some influencers are great to watch (motivating even). Others though... getting a new bike/brand sponsor and every time "it's the best one ever" are just awful.
Think you'll find Hope Technology are based in Barnoldswick, Lancashire, not the Hope Valley in the Peak District 😂 Apart from that, another great podcast as usual, especially focusing on mental health, something I suffer from on a regular basis, but helped immensely by riding my bike 😊
If you folks want to look at at an interesting health topic not just for men but women cyclist endurance athletes etc....Look at folks who have been endurance athletes cyclists triathletes etc. for decades. We are basically carboholics & later when we are 50-60 many of us suddenly find although we appear in what seems to be great health we have high Heart Calcium scores many also have some heart rhythm problems or stenosis of carotid arteries etc. As cyclist especially we fuel for decades with high carb high sugars & it eventually may have a price. That may be high ApoB levels ( a much better measure of bad cholesterol than LDL ) Thanks for the video 😉
Thanks Nic. Thanks Emily. Great content as usual. Male Mental health is such a good follow on to Emily’s women’s issues awhile back. A warning that helped me avoid suicide . . . if you have started thinking about methods, you need help urgently. It’s the last warning bell
lifetime warranty has so many "hiccups" usually. I have broken two frames from a big G company, one was replaced the other one they said "it was crashed". This is true because when the weld came out at the head tube i crashed. So i just don't buy that brand anymore and have had 17 years on a different brand frame with no breaks. Ceramic bearings are good for race, but bad for longevity. The ceramic is harder than the steel race. The ceramic will dig into the race. All steel bearing from a good company is like $10 and will last many years.
The global mix in manufacturing, along with possibility of labor exploitation, occurs across the board - bicycles, electronics and computer manufacturing, textiles and clothing apparel, agriculture, and increasingly automobile manufacturing. The desire to promote a low bottom line overhead at the bequest of stock holders makes this ubiquitous. 100 years go, the advent of national labor unions helped to combat exploitation of low-cost labor, but the internationalization of product has made labor unions largely ineffective.
Ultimately, we are all influencers. When I tell a friend about my positive or negative experience in a shop or café I will influence him. So from when are you an influencer on RU-vid or Instagram? With 100, 1000, 10000 viewers. After all the name influencer has no sence.
How long was Nic nursing that coffee? Or did he go through several in the course of filming? (immune to caffeine?). Brilliant discussion and exploration, and natural. Am very much enjoying these long episodes. Underrated!
If the health inequalities outlined here were on women people would be calling it an outrage. But the inequalities are packaged up as the fault men 🤨. If this were another inequality being discussed you would call this approach 'victim blaming'. The hypocrisy is breath-taking and unfortunately this narrative is not uncommon. But it also highlights that inequalities are part of life no matter your colour, race, gender etc. If you open your eyes you'll see these inequalities everywhere, not just the ones the media bang on about at a particular point in time.
Heard you say this twice now about lifetime warranty. ENVE now only does 5 year warranty according to their website then afterwards offers crash replacement discount. Zipp, Reserve, Roval and some other brands have lifetime warranty and even some brands like you said have conditions for that. Owing a pair of Reserve wheels and having to warranty a front wheel when I hit a pothole they were amazing to work with they got me a new wheel in less than a week no questions asked
I think if Sram are willing to ask customers to bring their levers in to have them checked over or replaced/fixed then maybe that's a good thing because the company are trying to care for their customers. Good on Sram for taking ownership before the lawyers or someone get hurt. In my opinion Sram are becoming a company I might switched to.
The difference between winning and losing is not really relevant for me, treating my bike like crap, and still having it rideable? Now there you have me. I would be surprised if Shimano did not have all ready people employed to check their supply chain. This was just something they decided not to look into too closely, just have them sign the paper and wash their hands.
Great feature & advice on Suicide. I would also recommend a You Tube channel Million Dollar Bogan who is a Harley Rider who has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to support those who have suffered from this. He says Suicide just transfers the pain and that is so true. Sadly I live near Beachy Head and we hear far too often of those taking their own life.
I would like to share my disgust with a tektro hydraulic brake with essentially 0.25 mm clearance between the mounting bolt and the body of the front caliper.. I had to buy a wera 4mm hex driver to not scratch up the caliper... that is all.
Regarding mental health, Andys Man Club takes place all around the country on mondays at 7pm. They are a suicide prevention charity. You can go along and talk or not talk but you are there with a bunch of men going through similar things regarding mental health.
I think influencers are fine. As a consumer, you have to be objective about what content or recommendations affect your purchases. Maybe a content creator shows you something and says its great, but you should do some research for yourself. Sometimes you get a recommendation for something you never would have heard of and now you know about it because of that influencer
Don't get way people say they get put off from cycling from "elitist" just go out ride. Don't pay attention to others who cares, no one is judging you. (And if they are you will probably never see them again) just ride and enjoy
I love cycling influencers. I think influencers get this stereotype of wanting to get everything for free or just trying to push products from their sponsors. I love seeing all the locations people bike. I want to go to Australia, Iceland, etc now after seeing creators in those areas. Just makes it a bucket list item not a jealousy in my opinion.
I agree it is not a SRAM recall, a recall is sending the item back etc. it is what we call in aviation a SB - service bulletin where it ask for companies/people to check/insp/adjust some thing to make sure it is correct as there been some reports of a issue, there is normally a feed back process of the findings, and if it is more people report issues after insp, it is a bigger issue and they can up what needs to be done, like full replacement or better insp.
talking about shady business practices, find it weird how little is discussed about SRAM's weird fetish with suing everyone and anyone it can for bogus patent infringement.
