SS14 - Cryo Pods and Cryo Medicine Explained 

Just a workplace accident. Must be.

@@fernando47180 This is first time I see such brutal suicide.

What are the odds!

I can't believe the maint menace has struck once more...

i read this as “thank you GOD” and thought that we were calling lilten god now

Thanks for the extra good info.

Who'd win? The entire atmos department vs A cold loop in Cryo

Atmos for sure

@@Riya-ho5zv atmos can make frezon condense it to liquid and turn it into a freeze thrower

Necrosol should heal rad too

Not a bad idea, but their blood levels will remain low

Salt water better i think

If someone got gigafucked by single brute damage then yeah, but otherwise usually freezing someone and slamming that beaker in 5 seconds is pretty good, you do not even need to scan and can easily treat 5+ people at same time with 2 cryo pods, not to mention you can treat cancer without any risk of vomiting. That said if someone is in medbay and not field AND chemlab does not have infinite carbon network secured yet, you might still want to cryo because if you overuse advanced meds when you don't need them you might not have them when you do.

I hope to see more cryo!

As a chemist I never get asked to make Cryo, should just force the issue by leaving a jug of it next to Cryo

I never used it because it healed so slow. I think the 200kPh actually helps a LOT in speeding up healing. I'll def be trying cryo on salamander later.

I use it often! A lot of the problem is that people don't trust things that aren't standard procedure, so they get all antsy when you drag dying people to another room they don't understand. Maybe this will help.

Glad they help!

Not the dionas! Dont hurt funny talking bush

As a doctor and scientist I like them, some doctors are not a fan of them. Also they are great for salvage, just have one for free trico to sort out those small cuts and poison, saves you trips to medical

Well that'd be nice still, lets you make necrosol easier.

I actually have a video ready to be uploaded about this exact subject lol

All good advice!

When you have 5 or 6 crit people getting dragged in at once every second you get keeping people out of crit helps a ton. Also I must have misread and misunderstood Aloxadone, that certainly limits its usefulness by quite a bit.

Free drugs are free drugs. Sure it's not amazing, but keeping people out of death is a good thing.

It matters when they drink themselves into crit and you end up making trico in their blood by accident.

I mean technically atmos needs to set up distro but if they aren't doing that, you have bigger problems than cryo pods lol

@@Liltenhead Kid named connector port, canister and a wrench :godo:

Ever since the suture meta, botany usually at least gives you 10 aloe and 10 poppies

I have no idea

It's really simple, give it a try.

After some experimentation on a built-from-source local test server: I couldn't figure out a way to 'automatically' (from a signaller, timer, etc.) toggle power to a cryotube (and thus injection). Seems like you can't rig APCs for remote switching? With the infrastructure of: a cryotube board, at least one but preferably two freezer/heater thermomachine boards, a condenser board, some steel/LV cable/glass/machine parts, a few bottles/glasses/beakers, and a quiet corner to play pipe Tetris; and the supplies of: water (easy, just grab a tank or something), either dexalin or plasma (either tap scrubber lines with more filters and hope for plasma to condense, grind plasma from something, or swipe a bottle of Dexalin pills from an O2 first aid kit), and the station's atmosphere for oxygen, it should indeed be possible to set up a little traitor den cryo setup. Gotta get bandages and iron/copper/etc. to deal with bleeding, though! With a pack of syndie smokes, a material reclaimer, and a microwave or hotplate, in addition to a defibrillator, they can even reanimate the dead, potentially, by harvesting the omnizine (contaminated with nicotine, but that's not really a problem) out of the syndie smokes and converting it to necrosol. No chemmaster is needed, though chemical goggles or something like a grinder to check quantities would be really useful. Actually, if you can't source dexalin quietly, the impurities from grinding plasteel for your plasma are mostly iron, so it's not doing any harm besides taking up bottle space for iron-blooded folk, and will help with blood replenishment. Still a bit of a pain when working without a chemmaster, but should be doable. Getting a defibrillator seems the hardest part of opening an off-books medical/revival facility for other traitors (such as for someone with morgue access stealing other traitors' bodies). Seems like defibrillator cabinets are unlocked, though, so if there's a map with one in a discrete location, liberating one should be possible. Hmm... could buy a chem. synth. kit, a pack of syndie smokes, a pair of syndie encryption keys, and a trained monkey to put together such a hospital, for a total cost of 14TC, leaving the traitor with 6 (for a turret to place to defend the 'hospital hideout', maybe?). The monkey can get one of your encryption keys (gotta get a headset) and operate the hospital while you're out and about doing your cover job or pursuing your objectives, and both of you can hear requests for assistance on the syndicate channel (the monkey can 'page' you, but can't speak). Six syndie smokes is plenty of omnizine, the monkey should be able to do all the condensing, mixing, cooking, and cryotube operation once you show them the workflow, as well as administering medications and topical healing items. A lack of two hands prevents them from picking up the defib, though! Oh, uh, and they can't wear the chemical goggles. So the synthesis kit might not even be worth the TC if your main 'cook' can't use the goggles. If the monkey ditches their 'uniform' and hides any obvious traitor items, they might even be able to make the hospital 'innocuous' enough that on non-LRP servers people don't have cause to attack as soon as they stumble across it -- it's just Dr. Bananas MD (monkey doctor) running a maints cryo setup! Nothing suspicious here!

Oh, also, I had to read the code to figure it out, but the "Pneumatic valve" is a through-pipe valve closed if the 'control' pressure isn't at least one atmosphere above the lowest-pressure side. Otherwise, it lets some gas leak through, depending on how MUCH higher the control pressure is than (output + 1atm). This is actually really convenient for keeping a 2atm cryo setup regulated while a 'quick thaw' system expands the gas -- you just set the input pump to ~200 and hook the cryo loop up to one side AND the control of a pneumatic valve, with the output going to a passive vent. This opens the valve to vent excess pressure whenever it is (and proportional to how much it is) more than 1atm over ambient, meaning it will maintain 200 under normal circumstances regardless of fast heating that would normally create dangerous overpressure, while minimizing gas venting under other situations that could slow heating/cooling, and will still maintain at least 1 atmosphere of pressure even if the room it's operating in is depressurized (though if intake is also through a passive vent, it will have no replenishment, and if it's intaking from distro, it will waste some of the station's gas attempting to refill to 200 in such a scenario). They should also be good for crude overpressure protection in eg. shuttle atmos systems!

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Inaprov is not dogwater what? 5u heals 50 asphyx, very great value for getting someone out of crit, stops bleeding too for when the game just does not allow you to use gauze for whatever reason

Problem is it's easier to remember few meds , and it's something who comes with time , lots people don't play med every other round like me. Good chemists who label chems good make it easier

In my case, people won't use the cyro because i, as a chemist, usually makes all meds under 15 mins so they don't even bother to set up the cyro even if i yelling at them

yes

Yes! It heats, it chills, it pressurizes, it... ...I'm not sure it depressurizes below ambient, actually... ...it exposes to gasses, it injects reagents, a little trickery can remotely/timer control it sorta... cryopods seem indispensable for mad scientists of all stripes. I'm trying to figure out how surreptitiously gather all the prerequisites (including 'ghetto chemistry' likely mostly from atmospheric condensation) to build a custom hidden cryo setup as a traitor. Mr. Mob Doctor (actually I'm a librarian, but who's asking? Not the fellow Syndie with the bullet holes, surely?). Come to think about it, an Atmos tech could probably do it easily, but that's almost 'cheating' in my book (I aspire to commit only 'perfect' crimes that can't be traced back to a specific role). You can easily fill it with unbreathable gasses or use it as an air frier, though! ...I wonder if you could set it up as an improvised crematory... that could actually be a handy service for the syndicate mob doc as well... evidence can sometimes be hard to get rid of.

Possibly, I'm not 100% I don't really play medical ever. I normally just see other people using the medicine on my dead body lol

no, you need to be alive (

I recall Aloexadone healing dead people but then it maybe got that feature removed or maybe not. People make this stuff so rarely it's kinda hard to see for yourself

cringe, the distinction between “mob” and “body” should actually mean something

There was a single day where it did, and it was glorious. And then it got nerfed and we got Necrosol/Aloxadone.

Supposed to be in before may 10th but not sure if thats still the case.

@Liltenhead that's awesome news I am a ss13 doctor waiting for a lot more complexity in the ss14 medbay.

even if you turn things on and inject the proper chems

It's actually really easy to build pipes, so if you can get your hands on steel you can use vents and pumps to pull and push air from the room itself. Just don't stand near the waste exhaust, especially if you're a lizard. Those cold vapours can hurt, sometimes.

sounds like it's time to play it.

It needs to be resechded by Sci bit it's in the game

@@Glorgol hasnt been a research on wizden for a long time

@Liltenhead I haven't done research jobs in ss14 at all, plus I usually play goob station so I don't fully know. I just saw cloning as a research option in a video once

Jokes on you I already watched it on 10x speed

I did while editing, does that count?