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SSD Reliability - Everything You Need To Know [Simple] 

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@BLKBRDSR71
@BLKBRDSR71 Год назад
I remember when SSD first came out. I paid around $200 for a 64GB Transcend IDE SSD. I used it in a Toshiba 5005-S504 laptop. The speed boost was surprisingly fast for that time. Today you can get a 2TB SSD for that price.
@H2VPROEternal
@H2VPROEternal 4 года назад
You also left out.... TYPES OF SSD: NvMe and SATA SATA SPEED: 600MB/s NvMe SPEED: 3GB/s AHCI caps a traditional SSD no matter what. That is why people are moving to NvMe and boards that support it.
@qzxyst6946
@qzxyst6946 4 года назад
this vid is old there are already many types of ssd and it wasn’t discussed in here
@H2VPROEternal
@H2VPROEternal 4 года назад
@@qzxyst6946 old is years not months lol
@mrwoodcat
@mrwoodcat 4 года назад
@@qzxyst6946 its only 4 month old by the time you comment..
@BruhBruh-mk5yg
@BruhBruh-mk5yg 4 года назад
Qz Xyst lol “Old” even though this video is 4-5 month old
@_MHAK
@_MHAK 3 года назад
Well I found A SATA SSD with 6GB/s lol
@wayneharrison6621
@wayneharrison6621 4 года назад
I replaced the 750 gb HD drive in my MacBook Pro with a Western Digital Blue 1 tb SSD. The difference is amazing. Programs that took over 30 seconds to load now load in 3 seconds. Computer boots up in 30 seconds, rather than 3 minutes. Best $115 I ever spent on a piece of computer hardware.
@jabbaweezy
@jabbaweezy 2 года назад
How the WD holding up?
@wayneharrison6621
@wayneharrison6621 2 года назад
@@jabbaweezy Great. I upped the ram from 8 to 16 gigs, the max you can put into it. Like getting a new computer.
@treblarefils
@treblarefils 4 года назад
I have yet to have an SSD fail even one that is 10 years old and cost a mint still working. However i have had many HDD fail.
@tekkugema7540
@tekkugema7540 4 года назад
i have wd hdd 4tb since 2010 and still functioning until now but my sandisk 480gb just fail me only 6mons
@stukaseptember
@stukaseptember 4 года назад
I have had one SSD fail but that was an early model. Modern SSD's should last the average user at least 10 years and in most cases more. On the other hand I have had numerous HDD's fail within 5 to 7 years. A golden rule with SSD's is DO NOT defrag them. They don't need it and all you are doing is subjecting them to hundreds of read, write and deletes for no reason and this shortens the lifespan.
@IsaacESFR
@IsaacESFR 4 года назад
That's your experience, in my case I had in my desktop a 5 year old seagate hdd functioning perfectly, passing all the tests and then I had a 240 gb sandisk SSD with only the OS that broke in just 11 months
@joels7605
@joels7605 4 года назад
I had one fail. It sucks because unlike a hard drive which typically slowly die so you have a chance to get your data off, the thing just dropped off the bus. Dead. Instant.
@blkspade23
@blkspade23 4 года назад
@@tekkugema7540 Yeah I've never a WD HDD die on me or any SSD, but Segates and Maxtors have. I've seen plenty of everything die at work though. However like most things, sometimes you get a lemon. With a SSD you should just attempt to fill once early on, because premature (non heat/liquid/surge related) deaths are more likely a fault in the nand out of the factory that failed writing to the faulty portion. If you can use it all and erase it without issue once, it probably won't spontaneously die early in life.
@johnchristianson515
@johnchristianson515 4 года назад
SSD: good for boot drive and files such as games you don't plan on deleting Hard Disks: good for large files and lots or writes
@muhammadsahid1901
@muhammadsahid1901 4 года назад
Thanks
@lanzonex4WD
@lanzonex4WD 4 года назад
this is no longer true
@kurukuru4120
@kurukuru4120 3 года назад
Yep, the video could've been 3 minutes long.
@Phane02
@Phane02 4 года назад
I split my storage across multiple ssd and hdd. The C drive and utility software is on a 2tb sata ssd while moved all the documents, downloads, music, pictures, and video files/directory onto a 4tb hdd. My games are split on 3 m.2 nvme 1tb ssd; one dedicated to Blizzard games, one for Steam, and the third for everything else.
@vi23a
@vi23a 3 года назад
"its him officer, he is the bobux man buying all the RTX cards" lol cool setup btw
@georgeindestructible
@georgeindestructible 4 года назад
This video is not here to give you a conclusion but rather information, don't get confused(because from what i can see in the comments you clearly seem to be). 1. HDDs supposedly park and lock their head outside the platter disks when they shut down so they don't scratch the platters. 2. When HDDs start dying, they usually don't go off immediately, they do some funky stuff and noise but you likely can still pull your data from them before they are gone for good not to mention how you can perform part surgery to them just to backup your data even if something goes wrong which is mostly NOT the case for SSDs who require very expensive tools and special people who know what to do in order to recover any data from which again takes more time, ESPECIALLY if they have embedded encryption functionality. 3. Hardware of either nature fails either because of material's physical impurity, hardware design/structure flaws or a bad psu with high ripple voltage(this affects all your pc parts not just HDDs including SSDs of course) and/or without good protections. 4. HDDs' platters actually have virtually(!) infinite write cycles compared to SSDs. 5. SSDs, when they are at 100% wear level(assuming they still work), will become impossible to write anything to them but you will still be able to read everything, just like a normal CD(do you guys even remember this? :P) Both have their pros and cons, but this is why mostly servers still prefer HDDs because assuming you don't drop them, especially the professional ones who have so many technologies to make sure data loss is prevented, are the way to go if you actually want your data to be more secure(+ the virtually(!) infinite write cycles they have). I own two server class HDDs, preferred them for their extremely high reliably and high capacity even though they are noisy which i hate it that, but they also cost literally 2 times less so they were was a clear winner. My main OS drive which is a Crucial MX500 500GB SSD(SATA) is now at 96%, so it means it lost 4% of it's max capacity of writing cells(not to be confused with its max capacity), for 2.2 years of use. I use a smaller 32GB M.2 SSD for the pagefile to make sure it doesn't take away from the do that on my main os SSD because because when i bought the main one it cost 180 euros(it now costs 65 euros....fuck my life) and the small one 20 so i'd rather have the small one get the writes on it to extend the life from my main one considering the cost difference. I have HDDs given to me from 5 all the way up to 30 years back, all of them work and i never had an HDD fail on me for the 20 years i work with computers(even though i dropped a few by mistake even after being freaking careful af as i usually am), while SSDs on the other had, had like 2 of them fail, they are a newer technology but that tells you something: ALWAYS HAVE SPARE BACKUP DISKS(and maybe a UPS like i do, just in case because SSDs worst enemy are sudden power losses which is when they usually end dying). I run everything on PSU which is titanium class which also has one of the lowest voltage ripple you can fine on the market and one of the longest hold up times which is why anything i feed off of it is gonna last a shit ton of time. The power of knowledge is gold. Hope all this tells you something.
@muhammadsahid1901
@muhammadsahid1901 4 года назад
Thanks, yeah ... Knowledge is power.
@muhammadsahid1901
@muhammadsahid1901 4 года назад
Can you tell me , my hdd external make noise so it will end/daying in few year?
@loucipher7782
@loucipher7782 2 года назад
yea HDD usually last longer than SSD my SSD used for 3 years is showing me 17% drive life remaining and the writing speed is like a HDD now lol so i'd go for Enterprise level HDD from here on for all the medias, their speed is pretty high too
@M4DLC
@M4DLC Год назад
@@loucipher7782 Which SSD do you have ?
@CoyotesCraft
@CoyotesCraft 4 года назад
I've never had an SSD reach it's end of life TBW. Buying the right one is important. For instance don't buy a QLC NAND drive if you are a video editor or do huge workloads that involve plenty of writes to the drive. At the same time you don't need a Samsung 970 pro for gaming. DRAM prices are gonna rise this year (possibly up to a 40% markup) so buy one while you can afford it. Crucial, Samsung, XPG and WD are generally good brands that I'd recommend. Most important thing is to be educated on what you buy so do some research before you buy. I'm missing a lot of info here as there is only so much I can type and think of at once but I hope some of this info helps anyone who it!
@FitLabb
@FitLabb 4 года назад
Great comment! Quick question, I just got a new high end PC that I’m going to be using for my business and a lot of video editing for my RU-vid channel. As you can see, my videos are generally between 5-15 minutes long, and I make about one per week. I already have one 1 TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVME that contains my OS and the main program files, I also have a Barracuda 4TB HDD in the PC for storing other files and programs longer term and a 12 TB WD external HDD for long term storage of my video files & completed videos. I’m planning to purchase another 1-2 TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus or a WD Black M.2 NVME to use for all my video files that I’m actively using for open or current projects to help speed up my workflow, which I will backup and migrate off to one of the HDD’s when done. My question is, is this a smart strategy, and which of those M.2 drives do you recommend and which is more reliable long term? Thought you seemed like you know a lot about this, so thought to ask you this question. Thanks!!!
@RegularExpression1
@RegularExpression1 4 года назад
I have Samsung SSDs in a file server for five years, heavily used by 20 users daily, and have had one bad sector in that time. Drivers are mirrored with a third drive as a hot spare. The spare has not been activated in that time.
@amorgan20111
@amorgan20111 4 года назад
There is a good bit of misinformation here... anyone who has been into computer and server hardware knows that SSD's don't fail with age, they fail with usage (write and rewrite cycles). The more times you write to the SSD, the sooner it gets closer to fail. Also larger SSDs have a much higher endurance rating, as the controller can reduce the amount of rewrite cycles to the flash cells.
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 года назад
thats a cool set up and nice of you to share your experience, thanks. I assume you know about bit-rot and ZFS auto error correction which protects data, especially long term
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 года назад
@@amorgan20111 seemed to me she went out of her way to spend time comparing with mileage on cars. did you watch the whole video?
@amorgan20111
@amorgan20111 4 года назад
@@iflnr978 I did watch the whole video
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 года назад
@@amorgan20111 did you see the part were the car that commuted to work in a different city was compared to the car that took kids to school and did local shopping? this would be as opposed to how old the car is, correct? i had other issues with the video, but to me she spent more than enough time on this ;) my 2 cents anyhow
@Wolf10-xsl
@Wolf10-xsl 4 года назад
M.2 SSD for OS, sata SSD for games, HDD for porn.
@OMAR-rv6hi
@OMAR-rv6hi 3 года назад
Lol 😂
@davidmccarthy6390
@davidmccarthy6390 4 года назад
It very much depends on your usage as to how long they will last. If you use an ssd for storage of a video library, it will last a long time as there is very little rewriting going on. If you video edit, they will degrade faster as you are constantly rewriting on the ssd. Having said this, even the cheapest ssd's will last at least 3 years on average, so as long as you put into your upgrade plans to renew and migrate your data, you should be fine. Another factor that affects the lifespan of an ssd is what tech it is using -is it a SLC, MLC, TLC or QLC, etc. This refers to how many bit get stored in a cell, and the more you have, the shorter its lifespan - a TLC will outlast a QLC as QLC store more bits per cell. SLC = single level cell, MLC = multi level cell(double SLC), TLC = triple level cell and QLC = quad level cell. Enterprise or server ssd's tend to be SLC,(a lot more expensive) and they can have up to 20x the life expectancy of QLC, and MLC and TLC sit in between those two. However a good quality QLC will stil last about 5 years for normal usage, so update and migrate at regular intervals and you shouldn't have any problems. Have a look at the linked articles to get a better understanding of the different types and their usage: www.mydigitaldiscount.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-slc-mlc-and-tlc-nand-flash.html www.howtogeek.com/444787/multi-layer-ssds-what-are-slc-mlc-tlc-qlc-and-mlc/
@L.Scott_Music
@L.Scott_Music 4 года назад
Time is NOT the factor in SSD failure. Data WRITES are the factor. If you archived data on an SSD and only ever read the data it would last indefinitely. Indeed, read and writes both wear out HDDs. The remaining factor is normal electronics wear that all electronics experience (power on/off cycles will wear out electronic eventually). There is no reason to have an HDD in a PC. HDDs only real use is for security monitoring systems where they are being written to continuously (and perhaps some data systems where bytes per dollar matter).
@DavidWood2
@DavidWood2 4 года назад
Some database workloads wear SSDs rapidly. Specialist server SSDs are far more suited to this workload than regular consumer SSDs.
@bennypika4976
@bennypika4976 4 года назад
there's a stress test studies on this, they found out that SSD really can handle so much read-write load without any degrade, they degrade by ages just as same as one you rarely use.
@Elirocks32
@Elirocks32 4 года назад
Hard drives are a good choice for very low budget PC's. A 256 gb SSD for Windows and a 1-2tb hard drive for everything else. Hard drives are a lot faster when they aren't running Windows.
@relaxingnature2617
@relaxingnature2617 Год назад
There is no proof that the data on an ssd stays forever ..it should be atleast powered up yearly ..a rewrite monthly is even better
@dikranpoladian4724
@dikranpoladian4724 4 года назад
SSD life spans are longer then you think they are. I have seen many of my clients with 10+ year old SSDs and all at 100% health. Also even if you wear in the drive significantly there is provisioned space in the nand cells to deal with it. One of the few work loads that will really wear in an SSD is video editing as your video suggests. But again not as much as you think. Especially if you are using natively supported effects and transitions you aren't generating preview files as much. Finally many speed downs of old ssd can be resolved with a simple secure erase.. Many of those Speed downs of older SSDs came from older XP and vista machines as they does not support TRIM and thus requires regular whipping (one every year or two depending on use) of the SSD to preserve performance as well as making sure you have allot of free space. Usually 50% of the drive.
@muhammadsahid1901
@muhammadsahid1901 4 года назад
Where I can find article for ssd maintenance? Please help
@liquidwawan7114
@liquidwawan7114 2 года назад
how much tbw and hour used so far for those 10+ years ssd?? just curious
@dikranpoladian4724
@dikranpoladian4724 2 года назад
@@liquidwawan7114 I cannot recall as it's not something I looked at regularly. I doubt they were very high as over 90% of them were out of regular home, office or gaming PCs. But the fact that the health of the drive is still 100% means that the driver hasn't started using any if of the provisioned space. I did come across one pair of old SSDs a couple of months ago that were 97% health. These were a mirrored pair boot drives of a small server we replaced. (10 years old)
@liquidwawan7114
@liquidwawan7114 2 года назад
@@dikranpoladian4724 if you happen to see any old ssd again some other times, please do if you can. nand write and hour used. thanks mate
4 года назад
I only use SSD as cache. Already two premium SSD failed at roughly 4TB data mileage.
@LinusMOGEL
@LinusMOGEL 4 года назад
I use a 970 EVO, for gaming an d video editing
@Avalon491
@Avalon491 4 года назад
SSD drives are the same than flash drives. I have two of them for years and they still fully function, so I wouldn't worry about SSD'S failing.
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 года назад
ok, but what about long term storage of data and bit-rot counteracted with ZFS? a lot of people only go to the level of this video and are un aware of bit-rot. just like people taking important photos on Polaroids way back in the 1970s or 80s. too bad for them and too bad for people not heading this warning arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/bitrot-and-atomic-cows-inside-next-gen-filesystems/
@jonathandayne
@jonathandayne 4 года назад
@@iflnr978 That article is from 2014... Not relevant today.
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 года назад
Dayne thanks for pointing that out, let me add that Jim Salter, I’m not sure I spelled his name right, wrote the article in 2014, but recently became a cohost on Jupiter Broadcasting’s TechSNAP alongside Wes Payne and Jim pointed everyone to that article a few months ago at most. So I guess not too many people will take this seriously. Those using services such as DropBox, Google Drive and AWS will probably be OK, as I’m pretty sure they use ZFS, but the DIY storage people are basically screwed, unless you can convince me otherwise
@jonathandayne
@jonathandayne 4 года назад
@@iflnr978 Thanks for clarifying. With respect, it's not my intention to convince anyone of anything. I believe people should do their own research to be informed. My point was simply this... Bit rot was a concern on older technology, and it's not relevant today in modern SSD. So for most average users who will see a simplistic video like this and then see your comment, they don't need to be fearful of 'bit rot'. That's all. Happy new year!
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 года назад
Dayne well, perhaps Jim Salter of ars technica and the TechSnap podcast and the supporters and promoters of ZFS, such as Allan Jude of the BSD Now podcast and Michael W Lucas who about FreeBSD are all incorrect about the automatic error correction that combats bitrot. I do not have personal experience with it, but Jim says bitrot is still a thing no matter how new the digital storage device is except perhaps the laser etched glass like material that may last millions of years, except for that, in other words for 99.999 percent of storage on today’s storage devices, you are playing Russian Roulette, as the years pass. And so you disagree, l presented an article from a reputable person who works with digital storage who presented examples of what can go wrong, of what eventually will go wrong after many years without active error correction. Please present the same presentation indicating brand new storage will not flip bits stored on magnetic or SSDs after 10 years without accurate active error correction of any kind such as what ZFS provides. Or we can just take your post a guide as how to approach long term digital storage, if that’s what you expect of readers. My source is Jim Salter and Allan Jude. So we disagree on the facts and the approach to digital storage
@jirehla-ab1671
@jirehla-ab1671 4 года назад
SSD: Good for short term fast storage HDD: Good for long term archival storage
@ghostcoffee1099
@ghostcoffee1099 4 года назад
The HDD’s mechanical arm is more likely to fail than the SSD
@blkspade23
@blkspade23 4 года назад
Time is far less of factor than raw use with flash. It just being 6 years old is irrelevant if you haven't been writing to all that much. Multiple active mechanical parts in an HDD moving continuously or intermittently are probably way likely to fail in that time period. It probably helps not buying HDD from a manufacturer with the highest failure rate though
@kjotuber2729
@kjotuber2729 4 года назад
very informative.. btw just want to ask, what storage do they use in cloud storage?
@noahverreth5280
@noahverreth5280 3 года назад
Coulds
@hannazakiy9861
@hannazakiy9861 3 года назад
mostly hard drives... but they have redundancy
@loucipher7782
@loucipher7782 2 года назад
you only need 1 SSD for the OS, everything storage means HDDs after 5 years replace with a new one and put the old SSD into an external enclosure for mainly read only usage like music library
@hyouzanren1846
@hyouzanren1846 4 года назад
Basicly have atleast 3 storage 1. For OS and programs(fastest ssd) 2.for games(big ssd) 3. For picts, vid, music, files(big fat hdd)
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 года назад
3. for pics vid, music, files(big fat hdd also need parity and mirrors run on ZFS with auto bit error correction. page 3 of the article:arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/bitrot-and-atomic-cows-inside-next-gen-filesystems/3/
@cheezy2455
@cheezy2455 4 года назад
SSD are not more reliable all the tests forget one thing more common then anything else POWERLOSS.. If you lose power normal hard disks keep on going... Ssd will just die or corrupt the data lose every thing. I've had about 40 drives fail from flash cards, USB drives and ssd with sata and nvme interface all die on me the past 3-4 years. Most of the time it's Data corruption. Just reinstall the system from a backup... Ssds are a blessing and a curse. If you want reliable storage it's mechanical if you live in bad power countrys like me (parts of the year I live in Indonesia where blackouts are a Commen thing
@JohnSmith-ik8nt
@JohnSmith-ik8nt 3 года назад
I think you are buying shitty parts
@dune2024
@dune2024 3 года назад
certain brands of HDD and SSD manufacturer have this proprietary power failure protection to prevent data loss such as Seagate HDDs & Kingston flash/SSDs by employing high quality capacitors. and yes it is tragic though most reviewers on the internet are so ignorant having no concern of this most important feature among the brands available out there
@WXSTANG
@WXSTANG 4 года назад
Lost a Samsung Evo 960 and an Adata SX8200 within a 6 month span of each other.... Very unreliable devices.
@Kara_Kay_Eschel
@Kara_Kay_Eschel 4 года назад
Lost two Samsung Evos within a month of each other, two different machines.
@dune2024
@dune2024 3 года назад
are they NVMEs or SATAs ????
@KootBear
@KootBear 3 года назад
lost SSD Samsung 500 gb in about 10 months, no more Samsung
@jabbaweezy
@jabbaweezy 2 года назад
Is Western Digital any more reliable?
@F.A.--
@F.A.-- 3 года назад
I have a Samsung 840 evo 120 gb that I use only to boot windows and a few software like Malwarebytes, open hardware, GeForce experience, steam etc. I have been using it for around 6 years, it has been formatted only 3-4 times. I have noticed that now takes a little longer to get to the windows screen and also takes longer when shut down. But other than that I haven't had any issues so far. To storage my games and everything else, I use a Western Digital 1TB (WDBlue) it has the same years in use but has been formatted more times without any issues or at least not that noticeable. I think I'm going to buy a new Samsung ssd and another western digital blue hard drive, both brands had been proven of good in all these years.
@wolfytechs
@wolfytechs 3 года назад
may i ask what TBW your drive have?
@F.A.--
@F.A.-- 3 года назад
@@wolfytechs I updated my pc in January , I cloned my old ssd and moved all my stuff to my current ssd, a samsung 970 EVO, the webpage says: 300 TBW for 500GB model which is the one I have. It was 69 dollars back then. TBW: Terabytes Written * Warrantied TBW for 970 EVO: 150 TBW for 250GB model, 300 TBW for 500GB model, 600 TBW for 1TB model, 1,200 TBW for 2TB model. * 5-years or TBW, whichever comes first. For more information on the warranty, please find the enclosed warranty statement in the package.
@M4DLC
@M4DLC Год назад
@@F.A.-- Why not have your games on the SSD ? is it not worth it for games ? I'm planning on a Samsung 870 evo 1TB SSD mainly for games and system/windows ,etc. Worried about it's longevity to the level that I'm thinking about HDDs instead tho, still researching about this matter.
@Mattixi
@Mattixi 3 года назад
I have windows installed and all my games on a 2TB HD. My sisters SSD which was used for windows boot failed in 6months.
@F.A.--
@F.A.-- 3 года назад
Warn us about it, what was the brand?
@Mattixi
@Mattixi 3 года назад
@@F.A.-- Kingston
@F.A.--
@F.A.-- 3 года назад
@@Mattixi I see, I think Samsung has the best quality.
@Mattixi
@Mattixi 3 года назад
@@F.A.-- It appears so I replaced her PC with a samsung and it's working great so far
@dune2024
@dune2024 3 года назад
@@Mattixi was it a SATA or NVME ?
@HShango
@HShango 4 года назад
Love SSDs i got one my self (sandisk SSD 1tb)
@anthonysmith5979
@anthonysmith5979 Год назад
Yes I fitted an SSD and it booted into windows super fast but after 12 months I decided to to a drive backup, after this it no longer went past post? Whe booting. I installed the macrium recovery disc and did a repair on the mbr which worked but now it takes 6 mins to boot into Windows? What could be the problem
@djb2046
@djb2046 3 года назад
QUESTION: If I store family videos and pictures on an SSD that I don’t plan on ever deleting, what are the chances of that SSD ever failing?
@vitacell1
@vitacell1 10 месяцев назад
For long data retention, HDD is recommended.
@richardmcnee1255
@richardmcnee1255 4 года назад
i have gone through a kingston ssd about every 6 months. they start having long delays and you might get a bios warning. i have switched to samsung ssd and hdds again for half of my drives. having to keep paying and installing dead ssds gets old.
@m4_patriot374
@m4_patriot374 4 года назад
Great work, Love your videos. You deserve more subs.
@lorpy5366
@lorpy5366 4 года назад
How long does the data on the SSD last if it isn't powered on?
@lifenext4433
@lifenext4433 3 года назад
@Flinty94 whaat seriously? Wbt hdd?
@tehprotrollboi6472
@tehprotrollboi6472 2 года назад
thank youuuuu, i was looking for information on the logevity between ssd's and hard drives, i'm getting ssd's for my storage mainly cuz i don't feel i HAVE to use my ssd's for more than 5 years at a time, as i feel comfortable enough swapping them out, but the data loss risk is definitely a factor i wouldn't write off, i was thinking of some kind of NAS drive made up of hard drives and i also thought of using hard drives as my main storage but, i've had 3 sudden hard drive deaths across my computer exploration life, yes they still have the data and they're in a state in which i can recover said data, but i'm just concerned that they will fail on me again that said, for one of my hard drives it's a laptop hard drive and i think it's been with me for more than 6 to 8 years, so i might consider getting a nas drive with hard drives as i won't really be operating in a way that will ever deal any shock damage to them i will continue to do research on this subject as i am new to computer building, just recently i managed to put together a really nice build for my gaming needs and i wanted to be careful with my choices as i asked someone who simply forgot extremely important details about computer building such as compatability and power consumption n what not, luckily all the parts were compatible but from then on i decided that i will make my own decisions on what i will buy for my computer and what i will modify, and i will do it with my own research anyways, wish me luck, loved the video, i usually don't subscribe often but you brought up some really in depth info than most youtubers out there so you deserve that.
@bnodosa3919
@bnodosa3919 3 года назад
2:03 : "...high chance the needle would break" - Wow - she thinks the read/write head is a needle ! - like a record player ? I am super impressed that this treatise is presented by a person truly well acquainted with this technology and we need to take heed of this valuable insight presented. ... Just Wow !
@catvideis
@catvideis 3 года назад
and you think a record player has a needle... Just wow! :)
@andresvalverde5182
@andresvalverde5182 3 года назад
Well, she's half wrong. Your Hdd could break from falling/hammerage. The needle is not a needle but a magnet, but the disk comming into contact with the reader would scratch it, causing a head-crash. Only her interpretation of a Hdd is wrong, not the whole picture though.
@BlackCat.Designs
@BlackCat.Designs 3 года назад
Is that 400T to the point it starts showing degradation issues??? Or were it plains broke and wont even boot???
@xpforevergaming8609
@xpforevergaming8609 3 года назад
If you have a good quality SSD and make regular backups (which you always should), then there is no need to replace it after five years. My Samsung 850 Pro has been used as system drive for 6.5 years and still working perfectly and I have zero intention to replace it anytime soon. This particular drive came with 10 years/150 TBW of warranty.
@syarifairlangga4608
@syarifairlangga4608 3 года назад
How many tbw hav been use?
@dragoonxgamer
@dragoonxgamer 2 месяца назад
My XPG S 70 blade 2 Tb died after 3 months It won't boot and when i check it in the nvme configuration it shows as MN-5236 and disk size shoes 2.1 GB and sometimes when i remove the drive and install it again it shows S 70 Blade 2TB and when i run a device self test ( controllor only ) my bios freezes Also my nvme idles around a 50 C and the max reeding i have seen on hw monitor is 62 C Can it be because of temperature? What could be the cause of my problem My friend tell me that it because of my high intensive work i do all day like for straight 8h avg a day
@mdahsenmirza2536
@mdahsenmirza2536 3 года назад
This channel looks like watchmojo but I'm baffled at how reliable of a source thus channel really is
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 4 года назад
M-disc for longest reliable storage.
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 4 года назад
Just an FYI, i didnt notice this in the video, but QLC NAND SSDs are slower than traditional hard drives in large sequential writes. My Samsung 860QVO-2TB has a 78GB SLC cache(~500MB/s) after that fills up, it relies on the QLC which seems to have a maximum speed of 160MB/s (the 1TB QVO is half this speed) now most people wont notice this unless they are editing video, rebuilding a raid array, or just copying large files all at once for some reason, but i have HDDs that are capable of over 200MB/s constant and they cost me less than $25/TB
@hashamjaved
@hashamjaved 4 года назад
Using 256gb 860 pro 😬
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 4 года назад
@@hashamjaved 860 Pro IIRC is MLC pretty good overall reliable( rated for 1000x drive capacity of writes so 256TB+ for your model) and still quite fast at like 450MB/s Compare that to my 2TB QVO, which is only 700TBW ~300x my drive capacity
@mrblister8359
@mrblister8359 4 года назад
So SSD's are faster at boot up and faster at dying with no way to save any data on SSD. to me spinning disks are still the best option. i have seen many SSD's die whilst my spinning disk 10 years old keeps going.
@mrblister8359
@mrblister8359 3 года назад
@Woz Berry ..you must be 10 years old ssd's fail after a few years
@mrblister8359
@mrblister8359 3 года назад
@Woz Berry i have a whole life time experience with computer from zx spectrum to windows 10 i have had many ssd's die whilst spinning harddrive still keep going you will be telling me next your usb pen drive lasts longer than a spinning harddrive.
@Veyron640
@Veyron640 3 года назад
why didnt she covered the qlc/tlc/slc/// topic in here. i have no idea
@stevenneuberger4323
@stevenneuberger4323 3 года назад
I never heard the term "needle" in place of "head" before. Is this common?
@rayzimmermin
@rayzimmermin 4 года назад
this is why all PS5 and XBSeX will die because their SSD are on the mobo
@平和-v1z
@平和-v1z 3 года назад
Not if you use the expansion card.
@rayzimmermin
@rayzimmermin 3 года назад
@@平和-v1z even if you use a expansion slot ware dose screen cap get saved ware are the cash files get saved whare are you saved games stored its all on the internal
@平和-v1z
@平和-v1z 3 года назад
@@rayzimmermin Really? Oh man, that unfortunate...
@biswajeetsingh4994
@biswajeetsingh4994 Год назад
This is really a good video on SSDs.
@ryan4kt204
@ryan4kt204 4 года назад
This will never happen to me I have a 240gb m.2 ssd for my OS and drives a 1TB m.2 for just games and another 1TB m.2 for files such as images videos and productivity apps
@upsideduck9165
@upsideduck9165 3 года назад
damn you have 3 slots of m.2 i only have 2
@loucipher7782
@loucipher7782 2 года назад
im already at 90TBW after 3 years and barely download anything into the SSD i notice Windows 10 is writing about 30-50GB into the SSD per day wth
@JigglyRuff
@JigglyRuff 4 года назад
SSDs/flash memory has been around since the 80s you think of the old retro game cartridges each game had 2MB flash Ssd.
@Hashhakaj.Kamaluddin
@Hashhakaj.Kamaluddin 4 года назад
Game cartridges use ROMs. You can say that the PlayStation memory cards are example of SSDs.
@syarifairlangga4608
@syarifairlangga4608 4 года назад
Read Only Memory thats different class
@jonxsupreme8017
@jonxsupreme8017 4 года назад
My SSD died because I decided to oc my gpu on msi afterburner on some high frequency and my windows crashed and l knew my pc was going to crash and when I started windows again, everything loaded fine for like 40 seconds until windows crashed again and I couldn’t load into the bios anymore. :( anyways 2 days fast forward and I have installed windows on my HDd and have wiped everything on there. I regret doing it so bad because I had lost everything I had my pc.
@Cr00ksy
@Cr00ksy 4 года назад
I put a 1tb intenso ssd in my ps4 slim because it was cheap, big mistake, only had it 4 month and it is already failing 😑 from graphical glitches to taking forever to load which defeats its purpose, to corrupting and deleting games. Apsolute pain in the ass.
@iixixiboy3475
@iixixiboy3475 4 года назад
I just got SSD nvme!!
@dune2024
@dune2024 3 года назад
make sure it doesnt fry 😁😁😁
@abdullahal-shimri3091
@abdullahal-shimri3091 4 года назад
My OS is stored on a SSD and I have 2 extra HDDs installed too.
@luxwyd.
@luxwyd. 4 года назад
Thats a good idea. Ssds are more likely to hold an os than games.
@seanaldridgefrancisco8736
@seanaldridgefrancisco8736 4 года назад
Hello newbie here, which SSD should I buy for an old computer?
@top..G66
@top..G66 4 года назад
If it has 2.5 brackets
@HShango
@HShango 4 года назад
Sandisk and kingston SSDs are also good to.
@newmaxx4380
@newmaxx4380 4 года назад
Look up NewMaxx Guide.
@zine_eddinex24
@zine_eddinex24 3 года назад
nice Informative video ❤️ keep up great work 😁
@Ghostintheshell3551
@Ghostintheshell3551 4 года назад
very well explained !
@o_o6869
@o_o6869 4 года назад
Still HDD reliable but slow,wish we can get sshd like technology common ,sad are pricey.
@poornamith
@poornamith 4 года назад
there is, known as SSHD. Typically they are in laptops that was designed in early 2015-16. Yet they have a very low SSD space in them, like 8-16GBs along with 500GB-1TB storage as spinning HDD
@o_o6869
@o_o6869 4 года назад
@@poornamith atleast cache quantity on hdd\sshd should increase or prices of high quality ssd should come to normal.
@vadimsegida2320
@vadimsegida2320 4 года назад
Great info,thanks
@oquenbier5224
@oquenbier5224 4 года назад
You can reduce wearing down flash by buying a dram cache ssd.
@puppypuppy1448
@puppypuppy1448 3 года назад
The needle??? Good grief.
@KokoroKatsura
@KokoroKatsura 4 года назад
got an ssd back in late 2o1o
@VoidraMusic
@VoidraMusic 2 года назад
Use ssd to run application, never move and store and delete files to not grind on it, and hdd drive use it to do what was above
@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891
@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891 4 года назад
SSD is a Primary Drive as Daily Data Driver for OS, Programs, etc. and HDD as Secondary Drive for Backup Storage... Period.
@KhoiBoa
@KhoiBoa 4 года назад
Nope. Ssd for everything. Prices are good now. No one uses HDD anymore.
@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891
@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891 4 года назад
@@KhoiBoa Widen your perspective and don't generalize... If you're only talking about your own Price Point at your own country, then that's invalid, there are still countries (third world mostly) that has unfair price compare to other countries. Like here in the Philippines, for P 1000 Pesos, I can 120 GB SSD or 1 TB HDD. What if my Build needs more Storage? And I have a Limited Budget? As I said, it always depends on Price Point, and what kind of System you are Building...
@KhoiBoa
@KhoiBoa 4 года назад
@@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891 But your first comment you talking about your own perpective too with Period. Its not wrong to just say your thoughts, If you worry about whole world you are stupid. People information is not always right for another, but if you smart you suppose to learn and apply what works for yourself. Different people have different perspective, my perspective is SSD for everything. What if there is a person with alot money but dont understand PC tech, listen to your advice and buys HDD even though he can afford SSD. Dont say what if what if. You busy worrying about what if then you stupid. IF you cant afford SSD then you not gonna Get SSD. How hard is it to understand?? Stop worrying about budget of others. Thats for them to decide.
@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891
@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891 4 года назад
@@KhoiBoa Stop worrying about Budget? With that thinking of yours... You are not reliablie as a Tech Advisor... Period.
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 4 года назад
My name brand flash drive failed fast....the CONTROLLERS can go bad.
@anihaven7995
@anihaven7995 4 года назад
I am planning to buy a ssd, any recommendations?
@0x0FF
@0x0FF 4 года назад
It depends ur mobo, if ur mobo support nvme ssd go with nvme ssd, else buy sata ssd
@anihaven7995
@anihaven7995 4 года назад
@@0x0FF well if I choose nvme id go with wd green 480gb but second thoughts, I think samsung 860 evo (250GB) is much more reliable and faster than wd green based on benchmarks
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 года назад
thanks for the great video, giving my opinion on things that could be improved, the first 2 minutes of dialog were excruciating, i wonder how many audience members need that level of beginner info? the background music was annoying. at 7:10 there was an increase in narration audio volume, really? this video seems kinda professional but the audio volume increase is amateurish. oh well, maybe the next one won't have these distracting mistakes
@darkmatter8650
@darkmatter8650 4 года назад
HEY! I'VE ASUS GL553VE LAPTOP , CAN I ATTACH NIMBUS DC 100 SSD IN IT , IS IT POSSIBLE TO ATTACH IT IN THE LAPTOP ? REPLY ASAP!
@kyrie26
@kyrie26 3 года назад
People are overusing the words "literal" and "literally" and misusing them, often invoking the opposite meaning, thinking they're cool for using this word. Signs of Idiocracy.
@mopeterson6990
@mopeterson6990 4 года назад
Your videos are longer than they need to be.
@JoeB3
@JoeB3 3 года назад
2X speed 😂
@NinesNX
@NinesNX 2 года назад
I'm sorry but (if its 100% true) if HDDs are more reliable than the solid state drives, then I believe the SSDs are inferior to the HDD with speed being the exception.
@12villages
@12villages 3 года назад
Ssd sounds good until you look at their prices. To be honest, I don't need them. To be honest, I scrapped by PC few years ago since I now do everything on my android phone.
@RK777PL
@RK777PL 4 года назад
Please only use Samsung SSD they are the best in my opinion and I build video editing computers
@Galexlol
@Galexlol 3 года назад
Too bad they have the worst endurance ratings so no, don't use samsung at all, remember exploding phones?
@RK777PL
@RK777PL 3 года назад
@@Galexlol I built about a computer so far using Samsung ssds only honestly it's the best hard drive I ever had super reliable works really well I'm very happy with the price honestly I'll keep it 10 years probably 75 terabytes maybe 100 and I'm going to toss it anyway I like to change my computer parts and my computer is every 10 years I build the best that I can and it's good for very long time
@Galexlol
@Galexlol 3 года назад
@@RK777PL Do you build computers for a job? Go search their MTBF and see how they're the worst, samsung is only marketing makes the fastest and then it explodes. It's data, it says they're not reliable. You can't use only Samsung and say they're reliable if you haven't used the others
@Galexlol
@Galexlol 3 года назад
@@RK777PL i also do the same as you but i have HGST for HDD and Intel. Those are reliable and there's tests done to prove it, do not fall for Samsung marketing.
@davehenderson3739
@davehenderson3739 3 года назад
Once your ssd dies, you can still read from it, you just can't write to it.
@penningtonlfc
@penningtonlfc 4 года назад
yes ssd are faster?do they last longer ,no i have have harddrive s that have lasted longer then 10 years,no sector faults at all.ssd expensive way too expensive.i keep ssed for o,s nothing else,untill they reach hd lengths of life that all i will use them for,also i worked i.t dept for 8 years ,in i.t company in that time only had one hardrive die ,out of 1000s .Even though went through uk post system,which mean they tossed around on diffo type of machines.best ssd ive used are samsung,870evo,970qvo ,dont buy plus ones same speed as evo ones ,qvo is mlc system so slower .adata not so good but ok for buget system
@InfiAaron
@InfiAaron 3 года назад
I had a seizure reading that
@godtable
@godtable 4 года назад
If you don't have a good power lines and you have over or under voltages the ssd will fail in months. Just saying I changed 3 untill now Edit they wasn't power cuts. It was the SSD all along. I had my OS on it.
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 года назад
interesting, but i am not 100% clear on what your saying. did you think the power to your computer was dicy and killing your drives and then found out it wasn't the power but the drives that were just failing?
@alexanderhjelmeseth1784
@alexanderhjelmeseth1784 4 года назад
If you have problems with the electrical current (brownouts, phase loss etc) where you live, you should have an ups connected to your pc.
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 года назад
@@alexanderhjelmeseth1784 thanks. my power is pretty good, but that is not good enough for expensive computers, neither are most stock UPSs, so i will research making my own power that is only charged/recharged by my local utility so I can reduce electrical noise. do you have any tips on this? there was a power outage/ power surge (i assume) about a year ago and now there there's a persistent vertical red line on my 55 inch plasma TV! i all ready know they could do that to my stuff, but i didn't take good enough care ;( i do not want to replicate this or worse on my monitor or damage my computer, fool me once: shame on 'you'; fool me twice, 'shame' on me, right? something like this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7uU43CZJxL0.html only i worry about the accuracy of the sine wave in some lower cost inverters. but the batteries have come down in cost to be reasonable. too bad i have to triple filter and soften my water, figure out how to stop paying $200 for internet, TV and cell service, etc etc
@samluna4135
@samluna4135 2 года назад
*tightens screw on psu and the screw is smaller than the hole... 😅
@Maniacguy2777
@Maniacguy2777 2 года назад
Ssds are not reliable than Hdd. Ssds use nand gate technology used in flash drive, memorycards and phones. Here the issue comes from recovering files recovering files from crashed ssds are not easy as recovering from dead hdd. In hdd you can swap the platter and pcb of hdd to recover. When ssd dies it is completely dead because it uses band gate chip like how flash drives die. You have to throw them or send to the company to recover
@Hashhakaj.Kamaluddin
@Hashhakaj.Kamaluddin 4 года назад
SSD's are becoming cheaper due to short write endurance.
@georgeindestructible
@georgeindestructible 4 года назад
No they become cheaper because they became easier to manufacture over the years, because their endurance has also increased a shit ton with years passed as their tech evolved.
@Hashhakaj.Kamaluddin
@Hashhakaj.Kamaluddin 4 года назад
@@georgeindestructible try compareing the price of SSDs with SLC, MLC and now the TLC or QLC in the market. The cheaper SSDs are usually use TLC and QLC. This alone is the factor of fractional price.
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 года назад
i wonder if the squarish SATA ssds are becoming obsolete compared with the m.2 NVMe drives? if I invested millions on the old style drives and were competing with m.2 NVMe drives I'd be a little nervous, although there are plenty of computers that can't use m.2
@AlexiosDeva
@AlexiosDeva 3 года назад
umm i kinda punched my laptop right on top of the hdd and now it makes beepin sounds from tine to time 🤣🤣
@angelcepeda9945
@angelcepeda9945 3 года назад
Buy another storage, that one will fail
@jollygreen4662
@jollygreen4662 4 года назад
Solution to reliability issue... raid 1...
@jollygreen4662
@jollygreen4662 4 года назад
@@SuperAgentAB agreed. But for ssd is just 100$ more or less... not alot of money... unless you want a NAS
@RegularExpression1
@RegularExpression1 4 года назад
The “needle”? What is it, a record player? Geez.
@GentlyUsedFrog
@GentlyUsedFrog 4 года назад
It can be called "needle" so you don't need to act this way.
@kolz4ever1980
@kolz4ever1980 4 года назад
Like geez... Are you totally like 12 to be saying geez?.
@jurajhezel942
@jurajhezel942 4 года назад
Hybrid drives are a good solution 🙂
@BeeBaux
@BeeBaux 3 года назад
Buy old HGST hdd for critical data they dont fail
@dune2024
@dune2024 3 года назад
NVME SSD's tend to always overheat 💀☠💀☠💀☠
@patrickfutato6555
@patrickfutato6555 2 года назад
Definitely not a literal nose dive.
@diyorman2982
@diyorman2982 4 года назад
I’ve watched all your videos, they’re so goddamn helpful!!!!!!!!!!!
@helldotsin
@helldotsin 3 года назад
Plenty of misleading points in this video.
@BoyFromMa
@BoyFromMa 3 года назад
Not even the 2x speed cold reduce the boring effect this video has.
@royaldakat5833
@royaldakat5833 3 года назад
Bruh just call it a hard drive not an H DEE DEE
@bilalap3163
@bilalap3163 4 года назад
2
@JayzBeerz
@JayzBeerz 4 года назад
SSD's will last a lifetime if you don't abuse it.
@florkiler6242
@florkiler6242 4 года назад
yea nah 90 is much more than 10... like 9 times more
@KRich408
@KRich408 4 года назад
I have several Gen 1 Samsung evos that have been through hell and still work! I also have a Old Kingston I use it a Geovision survalance system (as the OS boot drive) been running 24/7 for almost 8 years no issues!
@relaxingnature2617
@relaxingnature2617 Год назад
Still too expensive
@wayne02058
@wayne02058 4 года назад
you make HDDS sound like some sort of STDs, just say the word next time.
@andrew66769
@andrew66769 3 года назад
SSD failed after 3 years. Nice.
@psychkick666
@psychkick666 3 года назад
Glad I didn't buy SSD
@jacobhodges4593
@jacobhodges4593 4 года назад
I love you
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