SSL G-Channel or E-Channel? Comparison with Tony Maserati 

TheRealPistolP Bith Channels are dope but, I'd have to go with the G channel on this one it added more grit and bite to her vocal.

Chase McWilliams definitely did add more grit.. guess it comes down to preference 🤷🏽‍♂️

TheRealPistolP Yeah he was saying E channel for pop, r&b & hip hop / Rock on the G channel. I'm working on a track with all E channel strips but I think I'll dupe the settings with a G channel! The harmonics are crunchy AF. Yes, it's all preference it's great to have two options. I'm just waiting on the 9000K emulation!!!

Chase McWilliams facts that on the 9000! They say it's cleaner than the 4000s tho

Ali Hamza Ibrahim proper sound selection will you give a clean mix from the start.

Then the :l face hahaha

yea they both have diffrent tones and bells and whatever basically to show you want the one that pulls out sweeter sonics i think the E channe; and the G is +18db

I have watched this a few times and that always bothers me. The mid range girth of the G is clear here but his settings make it even more. On the E he is scooping 2.5db of 3k and on the G he is boosting 3db of 1.5 (these are approx). That difference is what makes the G sound more different in this clip. I used to work on a G console and I own the SSL waves plug ins (I have since 2007 or whenever they came out) and I also own the brainworks SSL channels. The waves is more detailed and clear in the top end and more round in the bottom. The brainworks is more mid focused and gets almost harsh in the highs but like a console would. Im not saying harsh in a bad way, I am saying harsh in the sense of how you would hea the difference in this video of the G vs the E. To me thats more real of what an SSL does. The Waves E is like a R Channel, very clear and accurate. The G is a little more real. But brainworks is more real than these. To be fair, I never worked on a real E console and only have these comparisons to picture what Im hearing. But the E to me has a more sparkly top and round bottom and smooth mids. But the more I mix, the more I like having the raw mids of a G there. I can always clean that up if needed but mixes lately are getting too clean and clear so the G adds a realness to me.

@@quanm3772 you have no idea what you're responding to or talking about. The settings are wildly different.

​@@anthonyaccurate he didn't say he was going to match the (Knobs) Its diffrent Settings cus each channel' Strip Has a diffrent Range's To Show You , YOU Want the Channel Strip that has more throw with less adjusting'' unless you actually want a less effective Channel Strip obviously they sound diffrent on the same Setting there not the same

@@cap217cap217 thank you for your comment! really brought a nice perspective of these.

Hahahaha

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@@WordsAxis720 There's no way she's singing "The Good Side of You Remains In My Head"! Is this another example of pop musicians not finding english to be a sufficient language to use for singing, but are too lazy to learn another one, so they make up a childish make-believe version of english? The indie-pop movement around 2010-2011 did this, and I really thought (hoped) we were past this now :)

I see Mr. Maserati nor Waves chose to comment. Hair peeing it is!

HAHAHAH

It's still on sale today

TheSpacechaser I bought it yesterday dude they know😎

Ave Mcree yeah, but they'll never put the G-master buss compressor on sale. ☹️ 😉

Yesterday I resisted ......... Today I could not lol ... happy mixing

roguecactus7 👌

on the vocal yeah, but I mean let's be real, they have to demonstrate a difference somehow... Most of the real differences are under-the-hood so unless you know what you're doing, half the time it's just your workflow being affected and not the actual sound (and if it is, it's subtle as mentioned in the beginning of the vid). On that note, the snare in the overall mix had a bit more weight on the G-channel and the mid-range had a bit more "thump". That was about it for me.

yeah but the changes made on sw do exactly that, what the difference is, which you also described... that's not really a comparison...

Just looked back and you are totally right. I guess this video does not do an accurate job afterall

I noticed that too just after he said the G had more mid range - I saw mid boost on the G and cut on the E. Maybe he was trying to match to demonstrate the range difference.

neh... more like, 'buy it, the old one you have now ain't so good', the new one is better'... ...and maybe it is, but one can't see it from this particular video. energy being fed into the plugin must be the same when outputing from the plugin, when parameters are on zero and it must sound the same as if being bypassed. 100% in 100% out signal. because otherwise we get colorization of the signal, and that is a bad thing. so this video is in reality saying that, either plugin changes the original sound (not good), or it's the same except for the color of the knobs... if the algorithms were rewritten, this video can't & doesn't show... agree?

Get a good vocal mic (large condenser) and preamp with some color. don't worry about plugins at all.

demo them both and choose one you like more.

I listend through my phone and I can hear the difference

@@BukanIbuMu And this answers my question on how to do it... how exactly?

Could b multiple reasons If ur in a non sound treated room there can be phase issues with the way sound reverbs around the room and that might mean it attenuates down on certain freqs that might be normally more audible. Too much low end could drown out high and mids in a echoy space aswel. If ur monitors are going through a preamp make sure they dont have any eq’s from hardware or software (windows sound settings).

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i didn't think i'd be able to hear the difference. i usually can't, but i could here. just noticing the talk of the different settings. the knobs are the same, i do not see Q. i guess Q is short for the very long EQ abbreviation for equalization?

Q is a measure of bandwidth, i.e. the slope of the bell curve. A narrow Q (higher number) means you're boosting a narrow range of frequencies, while a wide Q (lower number) means you're boosting a wide range of frequencies. Wide Q's sound more natural when boosting, whilst narrow Q's sound more natural when cutting.

i had no idea, thanks very much for the info!

Definitely more weight with the G. Love it. E is nice and clean and open, but I'm too old school to pass up the G.

Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon recoded on G, correct?

I wonder which one would be better for kick, or bass, or synth pads.

They are exactly matched the whole point of this video is they naturally have a different sound

Sorry bud, not in this vid

they will never release that outside bundle I am afraid... you're better off going for Cytomic The Glue.

The Glue - great plug-in but still can be sold at a discount from Waves G-master buss compressor, let's wait ! ! !

Hey 5cyp43r....Never say never ;-)

YOU'LL MAKE SO MUCH MONEY! hahaha you sneaky company you!

Alexander Roca it's on sale right now for 29

😂 i didn’t even notice but the 2 does have a different feel and vibe

I would have thought it was the other way around? The E is crisper and has more air, while the G is warmer and rounder.

ok, buy them and find out. I use E mostly (as it sounds warmer to me,) G on sounds that I want to cut through the mix.

the other way

Got it backwards.

ne_skaju it is? Guess this is why I stopped trying to become a sound engineer. I can’t hear jack lolol

I do some engineer study, many of my colleagues say they say they can hear the difference between the G and the E, or between an mp3 320 and a wav, or between the EQ Neve and SSL. I can confirm you they all failed. They cannot do better that 50%, so this is not better than chance. You can hear some differences of course, but you need a very good calibrated monitoring system, a big neutral room. But those who says that it changes everything are completly possessed for me. The main mistake that is done with this type of comparison, is the volume problem. If you really put the same volume (with a vu meter / peak meter for example), many of this people will be lost.

So you definitely need to learn ✌️💖 the e and g are working differently, g has a proportional q and has more broad curves, if you do a dip at 200hz with a SSL G, it will feel brighter than the SSL E eq settings for example, which has more narrow curves.

Yup me, thats because I watched it on mute.

maybe ur sight better 😂

You need to train your ears... E was more rounded and not upfront like the G..

thats the beauty of it

no wai

Lol...