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Stanley style banjo - Tips to get the sound. Set-up/Playing techniques to help achieve tone. 

The Banjo Outlaw
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Here I made a video discussing tips and tricks to try to help with achieving a Ralph Stanley style sound.

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13 окт 2024

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@taddhuff5196
@taddhuff5196 9 месяцев назад
Hi Banjo Outlaw, wonderful video. You nailed it. Ever single thing you said about the Stanley sound and Ralph's setup is 💯 % correct. I'm from South East, Ky right near the Virginia state line, and we were all raised up on the Stanley Brothers music. The Stanleys were so much a part of our family that we considered them family. My Mother taught me to play clawhammer when I was 8 years old and I've picked ever since. I love banjos and banjer pickin'. Thank you for "sharing". I love video and so enjoyed watching and listening and I'm subscribing to your channel. Merry Christmas and Happy New Years, from the other "outlaw". - 🪕🔥 💨 "Rock rolls, but Bluegrass Rules" - Ralph Stanley
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw 9 месяцев назад
👍 Thanks partner!
@highlonesomebluegrass8286
@highlonesomebluegrass8286 Год назад
About time there is a Stanley set up video, to me Ralph is so underrated when it comes to banjo picking, everybody is Scruggs this and Sammy that but to me they all sound the same, just like country music today all sounds the same but Ralph style Pickin is where it’s at. I always try and play like Ralph everyone of my banjos is an archtop. Do you have an email my friend? How can I get in touch with you? We could talk Stanley style!!!
@fullshark09
@fullshark09 Год назад
Hey nice tips man, thanks for it! It's material like this what keeps the Stanley tradition alive. My contribution: I once heard in a Huber commercial how wood type plays a part in tone too, mahogany offering a brighter tone than maple.
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
Thank you! And yes… the maple will mostly have a brighter tone than mahogany though! Walnut will be somewhere in between sort of…! Tone is a funny thing to describe sometimes!👍
@GenXstacker
@GenXstacker Год назад
Fantastic stuff. Love it!
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
👍
@rbfour5
@rbfour5 Год назад
Great video! Most people don’t talk about how Ralph’s style and tone evolved over the years. You did a good job explaining that. I personally like the late 50s- mid 60s tone, a little bit thicker and deeper than the later years of bright and tight! The old Starday recording of Little Maggie- Ralph on a flat head- but his tone comes out. It’s got some pop but little deeper tone. Keep up the great work!
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
Thank you friend! I love the tone Ralph got in those King/Starday years!👍
@DAYTONGEARBANGER
@DAYTONGEARBANGER Год назад
Excellent my man. Wealth of knowledge
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
You are welcome friend!👍
@bluegrassboy2448
@bluegrassboy2448 Год назад
Great stuff! I'm glad the Stanley style is living on in your playing. I've always wanted to learn and be proficient in that style. I hope we can all learn from your videos!
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
Thank you so much man!👍
@benperea8483
@benperea8483 Год назад
Not sure how I missed this....excellent video!
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
Thanks Ben!👍
@GeorgeCampbell1964
@GeorgeCampbell1964 8 месяцев назад
I tried a 5 star on my archtop and it had a sizzling sound that I don't care for. A friend of mine has one on his Stelling and it sounds great. I'll be changing my head out this weekend!
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, they ain’t for everybody! Or every banjo for that matter! 😁👍
@paulallen3557
@paulallen3557 Год назад
Really enjoyed your breakdown of the great Ralph Stanley set-up and sound. I live in Floyd County, KY and it's good to hear the accent I've grown up with. Don't know where you're from but I'd guess the southern part of WVA. Hey, anyhow--top notch presentation.
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
Thank you! North Carolina boy here!👍
@paulallen3557
@paulallen3557 10 месяцев назад
Brighter crackle nails it.
@paulallen3557
@paulallen3557 10 месяцев назад
I've got a '79 Ode C-style banjo, made in Arkansas. It has a nice tone just as it came but I've got a clear Remo head right now that gets me into what I call the Ralph zone. His stuff's all I play but I'll never be able to duplicate that tone. OK, I'll leave ye be. Love your pickin' and your description and explanation.
@campbellmuir4138
@campbellmuir4138 Год назад
Great video, really interesting. Thanks
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
👍
@GeorgeCampbell1964
@GeorgeCampbell1964 8 месяцев назад
I agree! O. Got a Remo frosted top from Sullivan. Hey, I got that tailpiece (Cox) from Clareen. I really like it!
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw 8 месяцев назад
They are good tailpieces for sure.👍
@cooloutboards1012
@cooloutboards1012 Год назад
The index finger is the strongest finger. A very good lesson.
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
👍
@drken8081
@drken8081 Год назад
Great video - but would still love your insight in Little Maggie and how it evolved with him!
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
Hey there! I might have more of these sort of discussion/breakdown videos later on… I’ll try to remember to address that tune and its evolution through Ralph when I do get to making more videos in this style!👍
@chrisherring2614
@chrisherring2614 Год назад
Nicely done, lots of good information for the Stanley Style players. I know a few of Ralph’s forward patterns, most are 4/4. You have any patterns to share for 3/4? Maybe something like Ralph did in White Dove?
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
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@GeorgeCampbell1964
@GeorgeCampbell1964 8 месяцев назад
I had Mike Smith make me a snake wood bridge for my archtop and it's a killer!
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw 8 месяцев назад
👍
@bradsparks6008
@bradsparks6008 Год назад
My buddy has a custom made Frank neat archtop banjo and it sounds exactly like Ralph's in the later years bright and tight! It's like a Gatling gun going off haha
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
😁👍
@GeorgeCampbell1964
@GeorgeCampbell1964 Год назад
Excellent video! Where did you find the conversion ring? I've seen some that convert arch top to flat head, but never flat to arch. I'd love to experiment with that!
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
They are hard to find… you just have to keep your eyes open! Banjo hangout is a good place to look sometimes.👍
@GeorgeCampbell1964
@GeorgeCampbell1964 Год назад
@@thebanjooutlaw Thanks!
@jermotter
@jermotter Год назад
I'd love to see some examples of how Ralph's playing style changed throughout the years.
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
A quick way you can hear it for yourself is to listen to his very early Columbia/Rich R Tone recordings with his brother and then listen to something from him in the 1980’s…👍
@52brack
@52brack Год назад
great job !! would love to learn salley goodin right hand !!
@davemoy330
@davemoy330 Год назад
Can you do a video on how you set up the banjo? Tailpiece height? Bent? How tight is your head?
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
Well, I thought that’s exactly what this was… all I can tell you about that kind of stuff is covered in the video. Lol.👍
@pameladahl8274
@pameladahl8274 Месяц назад
Love your banjo 🪕
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Месяц назад
@@pameladahl8274 thanks!👍
@anthonysullivan8847
@anthonysullivan8847 Год назад
Another great video, I’m hooked them now! Do you know where I can get hold of Ralph’s backing tracks?
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
Thank you, but I’m afraid I can’t help you there!👍
@GeorgeCampbell1964
@GeorgeCampbell1964 10 месяцев назад
Clareen Banjos in Ireland have the Cox tailpiece for around $60! 👍👍
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw 10 месяцев назад
😁👍
@bradsparks6008
@bradsparks6008 Год назад
Hey dude, you got any recommendations for heads these days since 5 star stopped producing their banjo heads?
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
Only the other options I mentioned in the video…. Top frosted Remo… Bottom frosted Remo if you want the smooth top.👍
@bobmurphy3061
@bobmurphy3061 Год назад
What is your opinion on the master tone no hole arch top ring, vs 20 hole? I was lucky enough to find a 1927 tb5 conversion with a no hole. I’ve heard they sound more like a flat,head, but I’m not convinced that is,true Also, did you talk about tube and plate flanges vs one piece flanges, and their influence on the sound?
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
I’m assuming you mean the no hole arch top ring vs. the 40 hole arch top? I like both. Ralph played both too… I’ve seen some of the Stanleytones that were no hole rings. I have heard good tone from both arch top ring variations in different banjos… as far as characterizing their sound? I’d say that a 40 hole may or may not have a little more dry sound. Tone is so hard to describe because it is subjective to each individual who hears it… as I may describe what I hear differently than you would. As far as rim and flange… here is where more of a difference comes in in my opinion. I prefer a tube and plate flange. To me those banjos have more sustain… and a somewhat sweeter tone. My ears like the sound of a tube and plate banjo the best… but that’s not to say that I’ve not heard some really sweet sounding banjos with a one piece flange as well.👍
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
And as far as a no hole sounding more like a flat head? I’ve heard a lot of people (flat head guys) say that. I’ve heard both variations of tone ring be able to sound more “fat” and “flat heady” sounding… depending on each individual banjo and set up. 👍
@bobmurphy3061
@bobmurphy3061 Год назад
@@thebanjooutlaw thanks for your reply. I just discovered your channel and subscribed. Good stuff. Keep them coming.
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
@@bobmurphy3061 thanks friend!👍
@brandonhenson656
@brandonhenson656 Год назад
Like it buddy. How about a video on Mastertone March, the ending?
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
Hey man… love that tune! I definitely need to throw that one up on here sometime! I’ll add it to the list! 👍
@brandonhenson656
@brandonhenson656 Год назад
@@thebanjooutlaw I think that’s my favorite Ralph tune
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
@@brandonhenson656 yeah man! I still remember the first time I ever heard the old record that one’s on… King 615! Nothin’ but raw Stanley style Mountain Bluegrass on that one! There’s a lot of good banjo tunes Ralph did… but I think my general all around favorite is Coosy. It probably ain’t the most ornate tune he ever did… but there’s something there I’ve always got “that feeling” from in that little tune!👍
@brandonhenson656
@brandonhenson656 Год назад
@@thebanjooutlaw King 615 is about as good as it gets.
@GeorgeCampbell1964
@GeorgeCampbell1964 11 месяцев назад
Where can you find a Cox tailpiece now? I haven't had any luck so far.
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw 11 месяцев назад
coxbanjos.com It looks like they don’t advertise their metal parts anymore though. I’d still contact and ask. Otherwise you’ll have to look for a used one.👍
@henrycross8776
@henrycross8776 Год назад
Outlaw, could you do a demo of Train 45 ?
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
As Ralph played it in D tuning?
@henrycross8776
@henrycross8776 Год назад
@@thebanjooutlaw Yes sir
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
@@henrycross8776 Good idea. I’ll add that to the list for the future!👍
@GeorgeCampbell1964
@GeorgeCampbell1964 5 месяцев назад
Do you still have the 5 star head?
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw 5 месяцев назад
I have one on one particular banjo.
@highlonesomebluegrass8286
@highlonesomebluegrass8286 Год назад
What is the trick to that fourth fret to fifth fret hammer on roll? I’ve been trying to get that down for years. Do you have any tips at all?
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
I’ve thought about doing a video explaining just that lick… I’ll try to make a detailed video of it later on!👍
@highlonesomebluegrass8286
@highlonesomebluegrass8286 Год назад
@@thebanjooutlaw please do, and I just watched your California video, I’ve heard that tune for years but didn’t know where to start. Now I do, don’t know where your home place is but I wish you lived close I’d be stealing all the banjo licks I could from you
@thecountrypressley5265
@thecountrypressley5265 Год назад
If u ever wanna sell a smooth 5 star I'd be interested
@thebanjooutlaw
@thebanjooutlaw Год назад
10-4… if I run into anybody else that has some for sale I’ll holler too.👍
@thecountrypressley5265
@thecountrypressley5265 Год назад
@@thebanjooutlaw thanks brother, they're so hard to find these days. I regret getting rid of my old one
@GeorgeCampbell1964
@GeorgeCampbell1964 11 месяцев назад
Where can you find a Cox tail piece now? I haven't had any luck so far.
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