Fun fact with door panels, blue ones interact the old way pre 3.23 and yellow ones use the new way. Elevators/green panels are very old interactions. Some ships that never had door buttons outside now have the blue one.
sure but do you still slide down the entrance ramp to your ship if you havent landed it on a perfectly level surface? so you cant actually walk into your own ship? because that was whack
I want to love this game but there's only ever been 1 period of time where the game was stable enough for me to enjoy it. That was a good week. Every other time that I go to download the game and play, it's crashes, server issues, etc etc. It's a great game when it works!
This, I was excited for Vulkan more than I should have. Is a decent upgrade, but is barely noticeable, performance gain is very marginal, at least is runs bit more smoother.
@@guynamedmaggi5520 It's not even an opinion if it does or doesn't. Server meshing is literally the only thing that can save the game. Currently there is only 1 server handling everything in Stanton. 1 server, hundreds of thousand of entities, has to be calculated with 1 server. Of course it's going to be a mess. If we divide the server load to multiple servers, lets say 1 server per planet, that's already significantly better. And CIG want to do it for Locations or even rooms as well.
The game with the new ui is actually really good now. The only thing holding it back is the server performance, depending on the time sometimes the servers are great, and sometimes they are not and i cant even leave a planet or city.
I was able to play the other day, had a great time, best in probably a year in a half. I did a delivery mission which, after getting tens of good guns from the completely glitched AI at a hostile hideout, I was able to explore the facility and everything worked flawlessly. I have done much simpler box missions before, and they have catastrophically glitched way faster, and with much less opportunity then I experienced on that mission. My ship even got automatically stored, and the remaining box was still in there, with a mission marker, when I retrieved it which I was super surprised about. I also did a clear out the hostiles mission, and it also worked flawlessly. There was a bit of a scary moment when all of the AI were invincible for a couple seconds, but other than that it worked great. I initially stopped playing because the legal merc and delivery missions were basically unplayable, but it looks like they are in a better state this patch! Now I'm just waiting for some more RAM to arrive. I played more after that initial play session and the game kept hard crashing at major cities due to not enough RAM real-estate, and I have 32GB already! If anyone has any advice for the optimization of RAM usage I am all ears. Either way, I am super excited for the future of this amazing game, and this may be the start of a larger full time player base with 4.0 around the corner (more or less).
Brother please reread this comment out loud and listen to how insane it sounds. You are huffing the copium hard. "this is completely gitched, but then it worked flawlessly! and this other thing works flawlessly, but the AI were invincible, but it worked great. But legal merc and delivery missions were 'basically' unplayable", your mind is blown because a box mission works, now you're looking to spend money to upgrade your PC for the game being unoptimized... and this is the best experience you had in 1.5 years and you're 'super excited' for the future. Yeah what else is new there, I'm excited for the future too, where SC is a game with content and not a failing tech demo IRL money sink.
Came back after a few years break and installed EPTU 3.23 and loved all the new critical changes, got mostly 20 plus fps servers most days and did mostly bunkers, deliveries and checking out the water and clouds, so much fun. But standard big patches had less success live, tried three very glitchy bunkers then stopped but swapped to deliveries which was neat it worked most of the day, and reputation was increasing also, until i got a bug where I couldn't pick up the box to finish it so gave up
in any case we are impatiently waiting, I hope that we will be entitled to a new trailer for Squadron 42 I hope there will be updates that will be considered for the missions
It seems like half of the player base is having a great time with minimal to average SC issues and the other half is having a terrible time like it’s 3.18 all over again. I really don’t know what to think about it anymore.
Patch added some nice new ui stuff, master modes, and some more gx options. I don't know why people are claiming it's some groundbreaking patch. 95% of the servers still run like dogshit and everything still requires knowledge of 3-5 workarounds.
I had a member of my org who had the reverse was hard crashing with direct x and running stable with vulkan so I think it's strongly hardware dependant, as for me I still run better with direct x. It has been running stable for me aside from the normal bugs like desync and missions not updating and teleporting ai. Dlss has improved my fps but it's still lower in landing zones.
The user experience is gonna vary wildly from player to player. My roomate and I both play, and he's had a handful of 30k (disconnects) while I have yet to experience one. Not to say that i havent experienced bugs, but what blows my mind is the variance in our overall experiences. We both agreed its a step in the right direction with the QOL upgrades alone.
Ok..... 12 years.... we got maps. After 12 years. Im gonna do what I always do and login and pray the game is first , functional.... And second, has even a remote semblance of a reason to play other than to go "wow this is so cool" which im over in a week.
Out of 20 times connecting we were able to log onto a server 3-4 times and those servers were broken and buggy or dying. Even if our ships spawned and elevators worked, FPS weapons were not reloading, everything was desyncing, inventories were not loading, the x button to close the inventory screen doesn't work, enemies respawned every 10 seconds (we were doing those distribution center missions on MT), every mission there gave us crime stats 3-4, missions couldn't be accepted or vanished, ships were floating in the air after a server recovered, there are no lights in air locks in outposts and everything is pitch black, box delivery missions don't register boxes being placed in shelters, locations on the new star map cannot be clicked and one of my friends wasn't even able to install the game because of error 2000 which affects some people.... the state of this game is ridiculous.
That is how it was when I played last around 2018 or 2019. I stopped playing and never gave it another chance. It's just too buggy and require too much time.
@BertyBertsson this guy tried playing during a peak time just after a huge patch release. Of course it’s going to be buggy. People have reported that performance is farrrr better now that the rush is over. If you played during a Free Weekend back then, you were in for a terrible time. Free Weekends are basically a meme in the community. Servers get overloaded.
@@tiestofalljays Strange excuse to begin with, but also not true since many of these bugs are not server-related issues. Monday evening (EU time) also didn't help.
I jumped back into the game on Saturday. Got outta my bunk, off the elevator, walked up to the hangar screen, crash. Haven't been able to get back in since.
Massive additions. All of which were pushed through knowing they were not ready, lots of bugs, borked, broken and well the same as SC always delivers. Huge hype major fizzle. No new tech, replication layer is just an active save file backup to start a server back from when it 30k. Meaning that your locked to the server until after it takes ten min to recover and recreate the same conditions it crashes from in the first place. Nothing else is more than a single tier step up from what there was before, and still bugged. Character creater, oh wow eye liner and blush and a new interface, no major wow factor there. No new body types, and majority of the time hair and face are never seen anyhow, would actually prefer a less resource needed blank mannequin face template to run with in a game I always were a helmet in. New animal AI, great, they could not get the ones they have to stop standing around in weird places so let add more that stand around in the middle of no where as a mission objective. Lot of tier zero there. EVA they did a good job with. Fortunately it helps with all the random ejected into space bugs. After ten years and multiple engine changes CIG is finally getting down to the meat of creating a gaming environment that was seen ten years ago, just with more "features" to them like contracts that are renamed and located in a bigger place to do the same thing as the smaller places. Master modes, well another tier zero start they will work on later. Make up and distractions with renamed titles on missions. Not a lot of meat there for me to get excited over. If servers were more stable, if AI was more reliable, if replication layer did not create more cargo lose and exploding ship than the old 30k recovery I would be more interested. But if the basic package contracts take 30+ min do to big work around, server error crashes and having to abandon and restart. Not excited. And as far as any other activity's in the game they are even more prone to bug caused mission ending problems. At least all medical beds are respawn points now. So everyone go get your C8R or at Invictus buy you shiny new ship the Ursa Medivac vehicle.
You're right I probably will, I think part of it is all the new UI and keybindings that is also frustrating. 3.23.1 should come out in less than a week
@@loadingerror9975 it's been extremely buggy for me. Ships not loading, inventory not updating, ammo not reloading, missions being broken, crimestat buggy, fell through floors, elevators not responding, placeholder text still in, Mobiglass hud issues, bounties being mis balanced, mining lasers don't work, etc. I only played for like 2-3 hrs lol every mission had so many issues
totally agree with the quantum markers - former where much more usable! Altho, the patch in total is a huge lap, and I need to admit - it's pretty stable! and not that much buggy! GJ CIG!
Its definitely an improvement. But I have so far only managed to complete a small handfull of missions as everything is still hugely bugged, and completing a mission is normally not down to skill, but more often than not luck.
Friday was a long wait to get in with over 9k in the queue and claim my F7A token mission but after that it was pretty good most of the time. Server performance once in was more variable, some rock solid and the server crash recovery counter was 0 through hours of play, Sunday it was unstable and crash recovery counters in double digits. It wasn't as bad as it was for me as it was in 3.18 but the QOL updates is more than worth the trouble. I like the new flight model for the most part but cruise control is meh. The speed/desync tank exploit fooled a lot of pilots into thinking they were high skill and now we finally see who really had skill. Saturday I mined enough salt to fill Grim Hex lol.
Only difference is other games are playable and have content... So not impressive as of yet. If they can have non-laggy or bugged action going on in there in a massive server of hundreds of players, now we're talking.
5:00 - just nothing that nothing about space combat in star citizen is meant to be realistic, and not once in any patch has it been so. The closest ship to realistic space combat is something like the eclipse. You launch ordinance from super far away, never within human eye visual range of an enemy. Its a battle of the best sensors to detect the enemy and the best stealth technology for you and your ordinance to avoid detection.
bought the game a bout a year ago but havent touched it since. I the laggy server/game was a bit much for me. The game looks amazing though and is definitely one ill go back to when things are smooth.
I was lucky to have a very good server on my first session. Second session was horrible at first, but after server hopping, I was again on a pretty healthy one...and the combat missions were so much better than what I have experienced for years. Edit: there's no hope in getting anything working if you see auto-holstering, slow updates in the contract manager, or teleporting NPCs. Just switch region and hope for a better server. When it runs well, the game is fantastic. Not worth wasting time trying to get anything done in a bad server.
o7. Bang on at 9:27. I have an AMD 3950X (16 core) and a 4080 Super. DLSS does nothing for me as I'm CPU bottlenecked however CIG will implement multithreaded Vulkan API's in a not so distant future, so I'm holding off to getting a 5800X3D CPU for now. Switching to Vulkan has given me a very nice FPS boost compared to DX11 however the performance seems to decrease over time. I guess that's why it's still in beta.
I love the fact that you cover star citizen form time to time with videos that are reasonable long... other channels cover each little SC update with 30min+ videos.
I'm surprised at how well-performing 3.23 was. I enabled CIG:s upscaling solution and could max out everything and put clouds to "photo mode" with 100 FPS no problem in major cities on a mid-range PC*! Of course, the servers were still slow, so NPCs were still bugging around. * RX6700XT + Ryzen 5 3600
@@Sinsanatis I put it on 'performance' mode (don't remember the %). Image quality looks good most of the time, but hair can get a bit grainy occasionally.
@@tiestofalljays I'm guessing with their own solution they can optimize for SC specifically, whereas DLSS and FSR have to be generalized for more games. I admit I haven't tried FSR yet though.
I can't even hardly get the game to load and when it does it takes 20 years and then it just crashes :*D I even did a full new clean install but its not helping :(
Great update, but the inventory system's been very frustrating for me, its been my biggest pain in all my time playing, and it failing during any mission or scenario in the game completely kills my runs. Which they'd put more into it than the they had but still loving every other change.
Haven't had any server issues during my play sessions, but one of the things I don't get is why big content creators keep saying they don't like the legacy inventory screen? I think it's great for what it offers and is leagues above opaque screens like Tarkov or completely obscuring your view like Sons of the Forest. I get most people have terminally short attention spans and hate having to understand things, but I think Star Citizen's legacy inventory menu is easy to navigate, lets you access pockets and sub-inventories easily, and doesn't completely take you out of the game itself (especially since you can still see around you and drag and rop items directly to your avatar in real-time. What is this other game similar to SC that has a more intuitive inventory menu that doesn't completely obscure your view while also letting you access item sub-inventories without completely taking you out of the game?
The inventory screen is pretty horrible... it doesn't work most of the time but bugs aside, it relies on the 3D view of your character to equip stuff. It's terrible design, if you are in a tight space, you have to fiddle with the camera to be able to see your character and what you are doing. It's overcomplicated, and a simple functional 2D UI is much better, It is a total mess. If it was exactly the same, but instead of your realtime character it was a representation of it with all the slots, then yeah, it would be fine, but relying on having to actually see your character when there's a million thing that can obstruct or obscure visibility... beyond frustrating.
@@CyborgNinjaJesus The 3D view enables you to see the items exactly as they appear in the worldview as they do on the character, so you can actually see where the item appears, or in the case of armour, how it looks on your character in real-time as opposed to in 2D inventory menus where it looks one way but doesn't appear that way in the game world. Plus. 2D UI requires double the upkeep since they need a completely separate set of entity icons for every single item in the game, which means every time CIG updates items they would have to update the separate 2D icons, which is double the work on the backend. Plus, Star Citizen actually avoids obstructing the view -- if you can't see in a tight space, simply rotate the camera. I don't see how that's difficult? As opposed to the inventory screen being completely opaque and obstructing your view entirely like in Tarkov, which funnily enough is where a lot of people get had because it blacks out the entire screen to only show items.
@@Billy-bc8pk It's just annoying and it doesn't work well. Yeah, you can rotate the camera to find an angle where you can see, but I was once trying to manage equipment in a dar tight corridor inside a derelict ship and it was an absolute nightmare and also, just needing to fiddle with the camera to be able to equip things is another unnecessary step. Seeing the 3D view offers no benefit to the experience of equipping things, It might look pretty, but I don't need to see the 3D placement of each item, I just need to be able to slot them in their place, I can see them later when I exit the inventory. Also, about the upkeep, that is not a problem since the current weird 3D system already has the 2D icons too, it even has the icons for the items slots, the only difference would be making them always visible instead of you requiring to hover over the correct 3D spot to display them. My guess is that it will go a similar redising to the new looting UI, which is way faster to use.
@@CyborgNinjaJesus Except you're not saying how it's worse than NOT being able to see your character at all? In Tarkov, for instance, you cannot see your character or your surroundings at all. In Star Citizen, just double click the item and it automatically places it on the slot. Or better yet, click the gear icon and it literally shows the item ports for each item and you don't even need to see your character -- in that regard, how is it any different than DayZ, Tarkov, etc.,? Also there are no 2D icons in Star Citizen, they are all the same 3D views. It's the same entities just in a different view. So no, it is not using 2D icons at all (which is why if you zoom in, it's the exact same 3D model view and you can rotate the items close-up. It saves CIG a lot of time and effort not having to maintain two databases for items.
@@Billy-bc8pk You could have a view of the world without needing to have the paper doll style inventory, just like the new loot screen works, I don't see how that wouldn't be just a straight improvement. I mean, it's cool if you like the current one, but I think most people don't and CIG agrees,that's why they are changing it.
Haven’t had any in 3.23 personally but make sure to submit the crash reports if given the opportunity so they can be fixed for you in future builds of the game.
Was so hyped, was so engaged, never thought that i will loose interest in this game. I enjoyed the Idea more then any Minute of "playing" this. Hopefully my interesst will come back in 10years when this game is ready idk..
FWIW, almost all of those server issues you mentioned stopped after the first 12 hours or so. It was just tons of people checking the game out and logging in all at once. It's been pretty smooth since. Still some bugs here and there. But it is without a doubt the best experience I've had in the game. Man, I'm blown away every time I play.
A friend of mine sold his star citizen account for a decent amount, when I asked why he said he just got tired of waiting and also the false promises which I 100% agree. It’s just terrible how it’s run. Trying to add ships for funds to a game that has received enough and also not added fixes but a dlc ship… yeah here you go… no. Where is the 600i rework, g12 vehicles, optimisations, actual content to keep you going etc.
Weekend was a mess. If I played alone it was great. Saturday and Sunday I tried to get my friend to play with me and of course then it was nothing but super long login times, numerous 30k crashes in a row. Saturday we got nothing done. Sunday we played for like 4 hours and completed 1 bunker mission. I swear this game knows when you try to show it to friends and just tries to make it the worst experience ever haha. Otherwise massive frame increase for me with vulkan and dlss as well as cooler gpu temps with dlss on.
It's great, but unfortunately I'm having alot of issues joining a server. I have to quit the game at least a few times before I can actually connect to a server
The game desperately needs a proper fleshed out training mode, every time I try to play I get exasperated with the minutia. Not to mention spending hours tweaking the weird glitches and bugs of the dual joystick control scheme. I want to love it so much!
Guys! If you have issues do two things! Delete the user folder and enable fps count with r_displayinfo 3 and if you see ther server fps on 5 fps, leave it and try another server.
There is a lot of dumbing down and „arcadisation“ with this Update and I really hope they make some changes to the new UI and Master modes. This update really dampened the immersion of the game. Here is hoping
...ofc. it's a NEW patch with deep system changes. It is bound to be buggy for the first iterations. It's like you saying: I bet, tomorrow at dusk I'll see the sun again, bet? And then complimenting yourself the next day...
@@yeawhateverdudesurefor a guy that don’t have patience at all with early access games, and know about their rants… I have been seeing enjoy the game , it has their little rants but he keeps playing .
The character customization is a step in the right direction, but the nodes were useless. All they did is blend various shapes from the existing head shapes, depending on which direction the user pulled. It was nonsensical. If you've used Make Human, Daz Studio or Blender to create a character, then you know how bad this node system is in Star Citizen. For instance. Looking at the characters' side profile and grabbing the nose tip and pulling out should cycle through different model noses with that nose depth. It should stretch the current nose shape out. Same with the bridge of the nose and chin, etc.. The blend faces tool was the most useful. I wish they would allow the charcter to be exported to Blender or MakeHuman to customize further and then import back into Star Citizen. I was expecting something a lot better than what we got.
The cruise control changes are terrible in my opinion. My biggest complaint being the fact that you can no longer get out of your seat and keep cruise control active. Which means if you're not in your seat, your ship isn't moving. Bad change. The point of these really cool detailed ships is that you can move around on them while they're flying. This just means I'm stuck in my boring cockpit seat all the time now.
