Star Pistol-Carbines: Model MMS and Model MB 

When you're out of ammo you can lay your magazine on the ground and presto, you have a makeshift bridge.

USA: Seven rounds are enough Spain: E L O N G A T E

4:28 ...I think you finally found a haunted gun.

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Those 32-rounders could almost double as monopods.

I bought a Star MB in 1979, my last year in school, and have been using it as my everyday carry since. It is not ideal for the purpose. It is a particularly heavy pistol - considerably heavier than the more common 1911-derived Star B. I've shot many thousands of rounds through it and, apart from those caused by dodgy ammo, never had a stoppage. I live in South Africa and grew up in a mining town. For us the "mine dumps," the huge hills created by sluice dams, was the perfect shooting range. I remember going there accompanied by two friends, one with a Colt .45 ACP customized for what we called combat shooting, the other with a Beretta M92. The Colt and the Beretta each had umpteen stoppages in the swirling dust kicked up by a stiff breeze. The Star never faltered. It ran sweetly the entire day. It is not the perfect gun - it has a really creepy trigger pull that breaks off like a dry bamboo stalk. Shooting it with the shoulder stock is great fun though. The sight picture is compromised due to the rear sight being so close to the eye. There is a lot of daylight either end of the front sight. Still, if you learn how to position it, it is astonishingly accurate. I even did a bit of rabbit hunting with it. The (great) video got one detail wrong: the everyday magazine takes 9 rounds, not 8 and it even has a little indicator tab sticking out of the bottom when fully loaded. I am now retiring the old gun. It is getting to be just too heavy for comfort. I am replacing it with a S&W Model 10-7 .38 Special, but am keeping my eyes open for a Star BM. Now that's a great shooter!

hard to believe that those 30+ round magazines could be reliable. The spring travel is enormous.

When you run out of ammo you can beat your assailant to death with the magazine.

Cargadores E X T R A L A R G O S

the ATF makes some odd ball determinations

The fireplace collection seems to contain an awful lot of rare semi-automatic pistols. I don't want to miss the last gun in the collection, but at this rate it might be years away!

this looks like coming straigh outa an old Resident Evil game xD

With the 32-round magazine, it looks like someone tried to make a T-square out of a gun.

It looks good for Personal Defense Weapon, in my opinion.

I do like the look of a stocked pistol.

Nickel-plated Star Model B was an original "Mr 9mm" as it was referred to by Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction.

I WANT A CARBINE WITH A SHORT BARREL AND A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG MAGAZINE *[trumpet solo]*

America: (looks at wooden stock) tHiS iS a RifLe 5-inch barrel and 9mm Parabelum: Are we a joke to you?

I once had the beginnings of a collection of Star's, well 3 pistols, a BK, a BKM and a PD. The PD came missing a front sight insert, so there was a dovetail in the front sight that was empty. I decided to fix that, so I took an old red toothbrush and carved out an insert. I took my time, shaving just a bit at a time when I got close, and when I was done it looked like it came from the factory that way. The PD was a sweet little gun, I really loved it for off duty carry, but eventually my partner (RIP) talked me out of the little guy. Last .45 I picked up was a scaled down M1911A1 that looked a bit like the PD but it is all steel and weighs in a about the same as a full size, unlike the lovely little PD with it's aluminum frame.

Great video. Love the Star stocked pistols.

There's just something about stocked handguns that makes them so darn cool. It's a shame that that they're considered SBR's and that most of us can't easily acquire them in the U.S..... Wait, hold on. These are exempt?!

I have converted $180 9x19mm Star Super B pistols to 9x23mm Winchester. I bored out the recoil spring space and made multi spring assemblies from the Wolff gunsmith spring kit.

I had a 9mm parabelum model in the 80s. Lovely bit of kit. Big frame but a stable shooter. It was very reliable and I prefured it to Browning hi power we were issued.

I've got a friend who has a late 30's fn hi-power with the stock. It's really cool. It has a leather holster mounted on the right side of the stock with two leather mag pouches for 32 rd. magazines. Left side of the stock toward the butt has a place to attach the stock to your belt or webbing. Pistol has rear tangent sights.

I like how it fits into the stock. I just think that is a cool feature.

It would be great to see these guns in the range

As impractical as they probably are, i do like the look of a stocked pistol

While I can appreciate that modern carbine kits for pistols are more ergonomic, effective and allow for mounting appropriate optics they simply don't look anything as good as these do. There really needs to be a halfway space, something with some of the aesthetics of the old fashioned stocks with the functionality of the new ones.

More Spanish pistols besides the Asta X00 series. One of my favorites and really overlooked is the Star FireStar Plus.

"S.T.A.R.S"

Iver Johnson still sells a 1911 Carbine. 16 inch BBL I believe.

Always a treat with the fireplace collector

Did Star ever try to develop a drum or snail mag for these guns at some point?

i guess this is the headlined 300 round magazine

I’m curious about the reliability of the 32 round magazine. That’s a long spring to rely on, but the Spanish are noted for their steel quality.

I'm glad they stamped the magazine size on there, I can see how it would be easy to confuse them

Definitely use a mag as melee weapon when I'm out lol.

These kind of extended magazines were quite popular with soldiers during the Civil War, although they were used more as status simbols than anything else. A nationalist officer recalled emptying a full mag on some fleeing republicans, but not hitting a single man because of the distance. The cult status they achieved probably accounts to the late production of these format of pistol

Love these videos with a gun and a reference book for research.

Reminds me of that dude who electric taped a heck ton of glock magazines

I love the Star Super B Pistols as well.

I love my star bm! They make great guns!

Whoever owns this fire place has a hell of a firearms collection.

They use a Star as a 1911 in one of my favorite movies The Sand Pebbles. I guess the Colt wouldn't run too well with blanks.

It would be interesting to see a field accuracy test comparing the pistol fired with and without the stock. I wonder how much difference it really made.

i clicked the video, tabbed away to do something, and came back to ian holding a couple of ridiculously extended pistol mags

Very Cool firearms Ian.

yes I would buy one..getting those machines turning while they can

With those extended mags & shoulder stocks they just beg for a selective fire switch like some of the original broomhandle Mausers had.

On the back where the slide and frame come together you can see the good machining , like the Colt ,some New Remington 1911s have a big Gap

Not only stocked pistols, but Spanish ones at that. Nice. When I'm 21 I think I'll get a Star, I like Spanish guns.

Have you ever come across a Springfield Omega pistol? Interesting gun built to suit German gun laws at the time which stated 1 pistol per person but it came with interchangeable internals that could use 9x19mm, 10mm Auto, .38 Super, .38 Wadcutter or .45ACP. Uses a 1911 frame with a custom long barrel/slide but with linkless internals like a Sig P-series.

Nice little bit of history there.

An excellent and informative video (as always). Does adding a stock to a pistol increase accuracy? If so, by how much, and is the improvement worth the trouble of carrying the bulky stock/holster?

Cool examples Ian keep up the good work

That's no magazine, its more like a tome 😁

Reminds me of the pistols attachment for Leon in resident evil 2

Oh man! Another gun to add to my wish list...

Nice!, i didn't knew about those ones; didn't seen 'em on the street, on the Marine Infantry or in the Guardia Civíl hands. I like the Star B, very comfortable on the hand and easy to shoot as a 9 Para, only downsides the mag capacity and it's sights; sturdy and realiable guns.

Why wrong? Thanks again Ian for your job...sure requires lot of work behind. All my support to continue

Iver Johnson still makes a stocked 1911. 16" barrel but easy enough to swap out for the standard 5"

These things are genuinely awesome. Thanks for the video. One question: The MB looks like it's a Model B just with a milled out slot for the stock. Does that mean that those extended magazines were also designed around the extended length caused by the Model B magazines being 9mm largo sized or did they update the magazine for 9x19 like they did with the Model BM?

GLOCK: hey guys check our stendos! BASQUES: hold my patxaran.

Thank you , Ian .

that's one helluva clipazine!

Thomas shelby had one of these in the show, I've been looking for Ian's review of this gun ever since

Ian, would love to see you shoot this carbine/pistol/sbr with the wobbly stock to get your impression. I encountered some similar guns once upon a time in a s#!tty little country and they were not very reliable. They were, however, select fire. I seem to remember they were Egyptian? Maybe? 9mm (9x19) as well.

The 1911 has a capacity problem? What capacity problem?

I guess Star was the first company to make a P-Mag.

Need to see John Wick use something like this in the next movie. Kill an entire room before reloading lol

Yet again demonstrating the superiority of the Model M.

I came across the stock for the 1911. About to get it but tend to not get it. I was planning to put it on the Colt commando and put the 5" barrel for the extended

USA: 7 rounds are enough. Spain: Hold my wine.

I wish our legal system would allow for stocked pistols to become a thing again.......

How the hell did I miss this video. One of the coolest yet. This Is what we needed in WW1 in 9mm

I don't know why, but I really like those old (and new!) stock/carbine pistols

Imagine mag like that in a 80's action movie. 30min. none stop shooting.

I want a stock and 2km tangent sight on a Baby Browning

Good story and history, Thanks.

I'm going to predict that these will get sold with a surprisingly high price at the auction.

I had a star wars video next to this in my subscriptions so I read the title as star wars pistol then looked up at the tumbnail and my eyebrows raised so high they violated class A airspace

beautiful

Its not right unless it has a thompson foregrip, 32acp and fully auto.. just ask Lester Gillis

It's like one of those old Hyper reload animations where the mag slides out for like 20 seconds.

I've seen that magazine before in a box of random junk mags at dealer decades ago. Where there any other big pistol magazines that look like that?

Were these offered to military buyers as PDWs? The 32 round mag capacity is interesting, now you might say "range toy" but the '60s and '70s were a different time. Fascinating guns

Love stars just assembled a bm works just need to bevel the hammer to put it on safe with a chambered round without thumbing back, would love one of these or a model s

What can I say, just: "Spain is different!"

You know there are artists who look at that plain, unfinished stock as a blank canvas just begging for adornment.

We "need" a handgun with a built-in holster, but you keep it in the holster when you fire it, and it's threaded to the barrel to give it a longer barrel

I want a stocked pistol so bad. Will probably settle for a long slide Glock 10mm with a flux brace.

So did the Gy-normous [1:36] 32-round magazine have a deep slot in the stock, too?

Im realizing why you haven't disassembled these and I'm hurt

So Star introduced the 30+ round Fun Stick. 😁😁😁

The stock looks similar to that of a Hi Power's. I wonder why the stocked Star weren't as popular as the Inglis, not that a Stocked Hi Power was ever that popular to begin with.

They just look so neat. I wosh there was more

Well, that sure looked familiar, just from the thumbnail. (Just for your viewers: The Inglis High Power is exempt from the NFA stamp as a "Short Barreled Rifle." As bass ackwards as that is.)

Hey Ian,out of curiosity,what kind of gun is on your logo? It resembles the gun that Sean Connery held in the promo shots for the bond films, which I believe was a Walther air pistol..or is it just an artists rendering that is not an exact match of anything in particular...I apologise if this has been already asked and answered..

Stocking guns in stocks in stockings wrapped around the stock of the tree for a well stocked Christmas; we'll throw in some company stocks too! We have plenty of stock! Just don't stalk Santa around ok?

I do not remember ever seeing a close up look, like this, of the WWSD rifle. Lots of appearances in videos but not closeups