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@louisbrantmeyer8786
@louisbrantmeyer8786 2 года назад
"Tech too dangerous to be shared"...Data playing with a Chinese finger trap - the editing is delightful 😂😂😂
@lsedge7280
@lsedge7280 2 года назад
Truly, even with his positronic brain, this is an unescapable ploy.
@EinChris75
@EinChris75 2 года назад
Thalos IV was so secret, they had to shoot a second pilot ;-)
@johnbockelie3899
@johnbockelie3899 2 года назад
Talos 4 could become an amusement planet for thrill seekers, there fore general order 7 was put on it. " It was all an illusion ."
@terrenced7742
@terrenced7742 2 года назад
I like the Omega Directive, but one aspect of that episode always pissed me off: if it's classified and only Captains and above have access to the knowledge, why the hell does EVERY MONITOR on the ship shut down and show the omega symbol when it's detected? You can easily have the ship come to an automatic hault and come up with an excuse for it, but literally every person on Voyager saw the omega symbol on their consoles and it was initially like, "yeah, just ignore that." Worst way to keep a secret and stop gossip.
@GPsarakis
@GPsarakis 2 года назад
Voyager has always been wonky like that. The right way to do it is to flash some agreed upon top secret code that would mean nothing to anyone who doesn't know it.
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 2 года назад
No it's like a override lockout, Omega is so important, drop whatever you're doing and investigate YESTERDAY!! Without context, it's just a mystery symbol. Those who need to be informed get informed, and NDA'd, crew gets debriefed/interrogated/threatened by Stafleet investigators later.
@mattlawler8794
@mattlawler8794 2 года назад
The more copies of something that is supposed to be secret that exist, the more chances that there are for the secret to get out. Files about Omega shouldn’t be in a ship’s computer to begin with. That’s one of the many problems with ST: Voyager taking place in the Delta Quadrant. It would make more since that the ship would have to link up with something like Memory Alpha in order to get classified info.
@GPsarakis
@GPsarakis 2 года назад
@@mattlawler8794 Voyager is hit and miss or just all over the place as a show though. If you start picking out the problems it'd probably be a long list.
2 года назад
@@GPsarakis That's basically every show ever. Nothing is perfect.
@kenwynn3871
@kenwynn3871 2 года назад
I imagine these classified borg files would include the incident involving cybernetic aliens buried in the North Pole later destroyed by Archer's Enterprise, anything the Hansens had learned before they got too far away for communication, the destroyed outposts and colonies along the Romulan Neutral Zone, and the reports from Enterprise E after the First Contact incident. Probably a handful of other cases learned from third parties across the far edges of federation space.
@jimmyd102000
@jimmyd102000 2 года назад
Also basic stuff like tactics and weapon settings, etc. The funny part about having worked with classified materials in the US government is knowing how much of it most people would find boring. Classified doesn't mean no one can see it, just people with a need to know.
@riggy1990
@riggy1990 Год назад
Wouldn't include the Enterprise E reports. Like, yes, it would've occurred at this point. However, it was after Voyager was launched, so they wouldn't have access to those reports.
@achimsinn6189
@achimsinn6189 Год назад
It might also include the Bork travelling back in time to interfere with Cochran's warp flight and maybe information on them being on earth in the year 2024 during the second season of Star Trek Picard. The implications of the bork messing with humainties past should warrant being classified to captains only. Or maybe some of them aren't even available to captains.
@amandamatheny3675
@amandamatheny3675 2 года назад
I would have been very disappointed if the Omega directive hadn't been number one on this list so thank you for putting it where it belongs since it is the only directive even higher than the prime directive
@thomashill6347
@thomashill6347 2 года назад
Nice to hear from you again on this interesting topic, Thanks Ellie have a great life.
@israelborrerojr9772
@israelborrerojr9772 2 года назад
There was a TNG episode where Picard gets kidnapped by a hive mind species & replaced by a doppelganger. In his prison was a humanoid Starfleet officer he discovers was an imposter cause they had knowledge of an event Picard said was restricted to lower ranking officers.
@STSWB5SG1FAN
@STSWB5SG1FAN 2 года назад
I think you meant to say "high rankings officers" The information in question would be restricted FROM low ranking officers. 😉😏
@TheWretchedOwl
@TheWretchedOwl 2 года назад
@@STSWB5SG1FAN well… linguistically, “from” would be a better choice of words, but “to” still works within context. That’s the problem with the English language.
@SineN0mine3
@SineN0mine3 2 года назад
@@TheWretchedOwl I would have said "for" to reduce ambiguity
@jayofthedead7750
@jayofthedead7750 2 года назад
Only the most elite starfleet officers were ever informed of the ‘Crusher getting bummed by a ghost’ incident.
@darthnx9928
@darthnx9928 2 года назад
Bummed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ashedarke
@ashedarke 2 года назад
I swear there's some lines in Thine Own Self that supports the idea she's into it 😂
@Phontoz
@Phontoz 2 года назад
@@darthnx9928 im pretty sure he´s taling about "boinking" ya know the old hubbahubbazutzut
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 2 года назад
She busy playin Candle Crush
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 2 года назад
@@Phontoz "bummed" is a british term for taking it in the rear, now you know, whether you wanted to or not... :P
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84 2 года назад
There are two places that Picard stated in TNG as being off limits. Vagra II (Home to Armus the creature that killed Tasha Yar). And the planet in the episode survivors, that was home to an immortal being in the form of a human man, that lived in solitude with a re-creation of his wife because he killed an entire species with a single thought after they killed his human wife. I would think those two would be considered classified secrets.
@jimmyd102000
@jimmyd102000 2 года назад
Are we sure they would be classified? If you don't make it public knowledge that you shouldn't go there because its dangerous, someone will.
@gorkskoal9315
@gorkskoal9315 Год назад
Three: the galaxy eater...that thing from season 3 was it? that was so evil it killed people just for fun. Oh wait 4 the unstable time vortex, where two picards were running around the ship is classified.
@gorkskoal9315
@gorkskoal9315 Год назад
@@jimmyd102000 I haven't seen the episode. for a while. IIRC Picard but out becons saying to steer clear. The couple worried what they'd do if someone less corjial than Picard eta all came across them IIRC. But it's been years since I've seen that episode. Correct me if I'm wrong .
@TheForeverRanger
@TheForeverRanger Год назад
Don't forget the base where those kids were being held due to the aging virus.
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84 Год назад
@@gorkskoal9315 that was season 2 episode 2("where silence has lease") and the thing called itself Nagelim. But true he should be classified too. Lol
@2centschange
@2centschange 2 года назад
I mean this entirely jokingly, but I would assume data's trial was made confidential. Why? Because when voyager had to deal with the exact same situation with the doctor, there was no reference made to the case which would have resolved it fairly quickly as established precedent.
@terrysmith4828
@terrysmith4828 2 года назад
Most sneaky "like and subscribe" EVER 😆
@Astraeus..
@Astraeus.. 2 года назад
Yea...Discovery definitely didn't do everything right, and the introduction (and subsequent total information blackout) regarding the Spore Drive is among the worst. They designed and built and field-tested/proofed a drive system that enabled travel to virtually unlimited distance in mere seconds, and at a fraction of the energy a warp drive would use going that distance, but then (because prequel logic) had to completely bury it and never try again... Imagine if Janeway found out.....
@HanselPalarca
@HanselPalarca 2 года назад
it requires genetic engineering of the navigator (eg Stamets), which is a big federation no-no, to use effectively.
@Frommerman
@Frommerman 2 года назад
@@HanselPalarca And, as Evil Stamets demonstrated, it's possible to use the mycelial network to destroy all life in all universes connected to theirs, accidentally. That risk alone would be sufficient reason to permanently hide all information concerning spore drives even ignoring the whole Control problem.
@Astraeus..
@Astraeus.. 2 года назад
@@HanselPalarca Except that it doesn't require genetic engineering, as proven by Booker being able to use the drive as well. Stamets being modified was only to allow him to connect to the mycellium, which Booker could do via his empathic abilities. This pretty strongly suggests that other empaths could do this as well, and with that it makes it very likely that telepaths (like Betazoids) would also be capable of activating the drive. On top of that, the need for an interface/nagivator is completely removed later on. Of course this only takes place once Discovery is in the 32nd century, and the modification is mostly developed by someone also from the 32nd century, and that makes it difficult to determine exactly what level of technological advancement would be needed to make that modification (doesn't necessarily have to be something from the 32nd century, it could be from any point between the 2260's and then), but regardless it still does happen. If Starfleet had maintained it's research and development of the Spore drive, it seems pretty likely that they would have figured out that Empaths (and probably Telepaths) could operate the drive and/or also figured out how to remove the need for a person to interface with the drive in the first place...
@ancapftw9113
@ancapftw9113 2 года назад
I wonder if the fact that exposure to the barrier at the edge of the Galaxy make Espers into deities is classified, or that you can get telekinesis from that element in "Plato's Stepchildren".
@doorman113681
@doorman113681 2 года назад
What about the edge of the Galaxy that mess up Gary Mitchell,????
@TIG5574
@TIG5574 2 года назад
Maybe the opposite and Mitchell's case was used as warning for future ships trying to get through the galactic barrier.
@NomenLuni1975
@NomenLuni1975 2 года назад
Another one, although not quite as memorable or important as the others in the video was the Cor Caroli Plague, as mentioned in the TNG episode "Allegiance".
@johnmorris7735
@johnmorris7735 2 года назад
That obviously wasn't THAT classified, since one of the aliens posing as the Bolian ensign knew about it...
@williamlim9066
@williamlim9066 2 года назад
@@johnmorris7735 By reading Picard's mind.
@NomenLuni1975
@NomenLuni1975 2 года назад
@@johnmorris7735 I always assumed the alien learned it by reading Picard's mind.
@chbu7081
@chbu7081 2 года назад
I submit the location of the Guardian of Forever's planet. Also, Iconian gateways.
@ironwarmonger
@ironwarmonger 2 года назад
Section 31, came from a plot element in the Babylon 5 outline, that Paramount used to create Deep Space nine, called Bureau 13.
@dinomonzon7493
@dinomonzon7493 2 года назад
I like the CLASSIFIED aspects of Starfleet- it IS after all modeled after the real life US Navy and as Starfleet does have a military role, its logical that they still have tech and projects they would protect and limit access to.
@Astraeus..
@Astraeus.. 2 года назад
You're sort of right, but also not quite. Starfleet was chartered in the 2120's (give or take) primarily as a military defense force for the United Earth government. This remains the case throughout the events of Enterprise. Following that though, the United Earth was joined by the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites in the founding of the United Federation of Planets. MACO was disbanded as well, and at that point Starfleet was technically speaking no longer a military organization. They were instead classified as an exploration, diplomatic, and defensive organization. Though they maintained a military-style ranking system and most ships had at least basic armament, to were without actual warships or dedicated combat troops. So basically, like Diplomats, Explorers, and the Coast Guard, rolled into one organization, more or less.
@Omega0850
@Omega0850 Год назад
10:08 Thats the most bold, and simultaniously most subtle thing i have ever seen...
@Dreamfox-df6bg
@Dreamfox-df6bg 2 года назад
I'm not sure that the Genesis Device was unstable. It was inferred, yes, but it was also deployed in a nebula, which was not what it was meant for. It was meant to be used on a planet. However, in hindsight it's one of the most dangerous technologies. If it works, it's a planet killer that leaves a usable planet behind... minus the former inhabitants. Even if it wasn't meant to be a weapon, it's easy to see that many would see it could be one. So if it worked or not is immaterial. Saying it did not work will remove it from everyone's worry list. Otherwise it would have been tempting to be used during the Dominion War. Someone would have wanted to use it.
@SeamusDonohueEVEOnline
@SeamusDonohueEVEOnline Год назад
5:22 "...universe-wide...."
@ronm6585
@ronm6585 2 года назад
Thank you. 🖖🏻
@edix1673
@edix1673 Год назад
One of the biggest problems with disovery (and there are a lot) was sending them to the future where starfleet fits out the ship and send them off on missions again.... This is the equivalent of a viking longboat sailing into a US naval base and the US navy sticking some armour plating and gun turrets on it and sending it out, with the viking crew, to deploy in modern wars. These videos on the Trek universe that focus on discovery for multiple points are painful.
@_andrewvia
@_andrewvia Год назад
Thanks Ellie!
@mythbhavd
@mythbhavd 2 года назад
I’ve always thought that the genesis tech wasn’t unstable, the material going into the construction of the world was. It was designed to terraform an existing planet, not create one from a nebula and an exploding starship.
@zombieshoot4318
@zombieshoot4318 2 года назад
Yes. The problem with Genesis was that there wasn't enough stuff to make a planet and a sun. But even if Genesis was unstable the whole quadrant should have been shitting bricks because Genesis is still a tremendous weapon.
@Goodiesfanful
@Goodiesfanful Год назад
There’s another that may be classified - the technology Captain Ransom used to turn the Spirits of Good Fortune into fuel on Equinox.
@TK199999
@TK199999 3 месяца назад
The thing about Genesis device is that as terraforming device its crap, but as weapon of as 40k describes planetary Exterminatus aka planet killer weapon it still works fine. But the reason no one else has recreated it, is probably because no one knows its special sauce protomatter. Which in apocrypha is so unstable no one has figured out to make into a weapon before blows up the user. That was trick Kirk's son figured out, not just using Protomater to make the Genesis effect work. But getting protomater to be stable enough to be used in it at all. That was secret of Genesis the Klingon Kur wanted, not any terraforming device.
@albertogambardella
@albertogambardella Год назад
On TNG's The Chase, we learn all humanoid beings (Humans, Cardassians, Klingons etc) comes from one unique race.
@ricknick5318
@ricknick5318 Год назад
Spock knew about the Mirror Universe because when the Mirror Universe Captain Kirk being down to the regular Enterprise off screen they knew immediately it was not their Captain Kirk it was mentioned at the end of the episode and all occurred off screen
@Loan--Wolf
@Loan--Wolf 2 года назад
hate to bust your bubble but the inproviblty drive is the fastest and i guess the blinkdrive would be second
@TheFlyWahine
@TheFlyWahine 2 года назад
So if the borgs transport phaes the ship slightly out of time and space therefor allowing it to fly much faster then warp 10.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 2 года назад
The “spore drive” is utterly ludicrous.
@duane534
@duane534 2 года назад
In what way? Its speed?
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 2 года назад
@@duane534 >> The short answer is it’s BAD technobabble. It’s “deux ex machina” or literary cheating. Star Trek is know for good technobabble.
@MAKgargos
@MAKgargos 2 года назад
The fact that Star Trek Discovery was mentioned twice here shows the problem with this series. It is very ambitious and therefore also exciting, but in the end it is always frustrating and disappointing. It wants to be round, but is as episodic as the old series. But here you should have planned for the end from the beginning. It wasn't done and that's why everything has to be kept secret in the most ridiculous way, so that it doesn't disturb the canon and because it's often exaggerated in itself.
@MartianInAHumansBody
@MartianInAHumansBody 2 года назад
Its not TrekCulture's fault, but it did bother me how much they've now turned Section31 == Starfleet Intelligence. It was meant to be a conspiracy level organization, that wasn't official. Now they have custom badges and everyone talks about them, essentially, like they are the only covert program in the Federation.
@seymssogood
@seymssogood 2 года назад
I think it was implied that Section 31 became more widely known during the time in-between Enterprise and Discovery, to the point that the organisation was reliant upon the AI system. It was due to the incident with the rogue AI, that 31 was heavily reorganised to eventually be the little-known clandestine organisation of DS9.
@ThePirateburke86
@ThePirateburke86 2 года назад
Omega is easily Voyagers best episode
@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617
@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617 2 года назад
That treaty with the Romulans makes no sense imo..i mean if the Federation was weaker than the Romulan Empire i could see them agreeing to not using cloaking tech but especially since the Federation is more powerful i really don't understand why they'd agree to not use cloaking tech yet allow the Romulans to use it
@morriscox8911
@morriscox8911 Год назад
A concession so that the Romulans sign the peace treaty. As you said, the Federation is more powerful. They can afford losing an advantage or two.
@dekardkain5469
@dekardkain5469 2 года назад
You missed quite possibly the MOST classified secret ever held by Starfleet - the location of the toilets.
@brodriguez11000
@brodriguez11000 2 года назад
Toilets? Just beam from source to space.
@sunflower5103
@sunflower5103 2 года назад
😂😂😂
@knuckle12356
@knuckle12356 2 года назад
Just what do you think the base stock for "synthesizable proteins" is.....? Yup. Starfleet, with its adoption of food replicator tech, and in conjunction with handing out mission briefs whose scopes are half a decade, sometimes even longer; described as "continuing..." You can't pack replicator supplies for that long. It has to be ongoing and renewable, preferably. ~~~ "Earth Paste! For all your replicator supply needs, come on down to our store and check out our proprietary protein base for human culinary replication." _Earth Paste; for when you're tired of eating your own sh!%._
@Powermad-bu4em
@Powermad-bu4em 2 года назад
They're on the poop deck. Obviously.
@sky_lord_4459
@sky_lord_4459 2 года назад
There isn’t any toilets, they just have to boldly go, hopefully where no one has gone before. Then they contact whoever is on transporter duty, it might be why Miles O’Brien seems fed up allot.
@ainesheehan
@ainesheehan 2 года назад
I appreciate the "like and Subscribe" inserted in the Talos directive - gold star for the graphics department. Had to go back and rewatch to be sure I didn't imagine it 😂
@alonespirit9923
@alonespirit9923 2 года назад
Yep, that was good!
@ucfsab
@ucfsab 2 года назад
So did I..... and how about that "half vulcan science officer" reference jeez
@GoofballLtG
@GoofballLtG 2 года назад
Loved it!
@pygmytyrantking3153
@pygmytyrantking3153 2 года назад
I did a double take as well
@JeremyDuncan
@JeremyDuncan 2 года назад
It actually made me subscribe
@gavinminton457
@gavinminton457 2 года назад
Sisko’s involvement in the killing of the Romulan senator and his staff that lead to the entry of the Romulans in to the Dominion war on the side of the Federation. As far as I know, that secret has never been exposed in canon.
@arbjbornk
@arbjbornk 2 года назад
Even Starfleet Command didn't know about it. Only Sisko and Garek know the truth.
@thiagodeandrade7081
@thiagodeandrade7081 2 года назад
Though Starfleet Command knew Sisko was acting toget tne Romulsns onboard, so I wonder if someone connected the dts and decided it was better not to rock the boat.
@kjpierson1152
@kjpierson1152 2 года назад
They can all live with it....They can.
@altruisticsloth
@altruisticsloth 2 года назад
Holy shit I actually had to pause and think on that for a while; but I belive youre technically correct. Never in the series is it acknowledged.
@kanpeki2485
@kanpeki2485 2 года назад
It wasn’t classified. Starfleet know nothing about it only Sisko and Garak
@travisjohnson622
@travisjohnson622 2 года назад
Forgot to mention: Kirk found Zefram Cochrain in TOS and agreed to keep his location a secret. But the lore will tell you that Zephram dissappeared in space shortly after breaking the warp barrier. Kirk found him alive but never logged the encounter out of respect for him.
@RealEnerjak
@RealEnerjak 6 месяцев назад
Star Trek First Contact retconned this. Cochrain made it back to Earth just fine and shook hands with the ancestor of Spock.
@FoxyAlphaRogerTango
@FoxyAlphaRogerTango 2 года назад
I submit "Bringing the Romulans into the Dominion war", but I'm not sure it counts as "Classified by Starfleet" because they may not have even known the truth. It's ambiguous at the end of "In the Pale Moonlight", as the episode ends with Sisko deleting the log, so we do not know if the actions of the episode were ever officially recorded. Just might be a dirty secret that Sisko and Garak took with them, never to be spoken of again.
@sirhenry9313
@sirhenry9313 2 года назад
Not true, StarFleet had given the go ahead for the plan, so Sisko would have HAD to update them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@johnmorris7735
@johnmorris7735 2 года назад
At one point during the episode, Garak suggests a course of action, and Sisko replies that he would have to clear it with Starfleet...
@williamlim9066
@williamlim9066 2 года назад
@@johnmorris7735 IIRC that was the original holo recording plan. Killing the senator was Garak's plan B.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 2 года назад
Great episode! DS9 is the best trek.
@sunspot42
@sunspot42 2 года назад
@@johnmorris7735 Starfleet knew about the creation of the faked footage of the Dominion plotting to attack the - then neutral - Romulans. Starfleet did not - as far as we know - learn about Garak's plot to blow up the Romulan senator's ship and make it look like the Dominion had ordered his destruction. An explosion that would also hide the anomalies in the faked footage.
@mikeswanson849
@mikeswanson849 2 года назад
The second time around with the exception of Data, any and all information regarding the Paxians was supposed to have been erased from the Enterprise -D's computers therefore there would have been no information for Starfleet to classify.
@ashedarke
@ashedarke 2 года назад
That's how secret it is, even they don't know about it anymore 😉
@a_Minion_of_Soros
@a_Minion_of_Soros 2 года назад
The most serious one not covered is CLEARLY the condition that causes Klingons to undergo morphological changes seemingly without explaination.
@rhilianis5811
@rhilianis5811 2 года назад
the cure that Dr. Phlox created might be classified. It is never mentioned anywhere else that I am aware of.
@raymondclark1785
@raymondclark1785 2 года назад
We don't talk about that
@YesTHATJohnSmith
@YesTHATJohnSmith Год назад
@@raymondclark1785 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@ralfw7463
@ralfw7463 Год назад
4. Season Enterprise (Archer)
@Hammster69official
@Hammster69official Год назад
Discovery covered that
@DarthAzabrush
@DarthAzabrush 2 года назад
I think the most terrifying thing in the Federation isn't a secret at all its a general order. General Order 24 gives a Starfleet Captain or Flag Officer the right to blow up a planet if it contains a significant existential threat to the Federation. Worst still, the text of the order actually has the precise instructions for calibrating Photon Torpedoes to an atmospheric combustion mode to make this possible. As one Romulan diplomat observed "they come in their pleasure boats with their families and their infuriating bright and cheery curiosity about things that do not concern them but make no mistake. These Sehlats may look domesticated but they have vicious teeth that devour whole worlds"
@joachimfrank4134
@joachimfrank4134 2 года назад
Indeed terrifying. Especially if you consider that after the planet has been blown up any evidence is destroyed, so anyone can claim, there had been a threat.
@DarthAzabrush
@DarthAzabrush 2 года назад
@@joachimfrank4134 As was very nearly the case with a certain mentally ill Izarian Captain...
@Penfrindle
@Penfrindle 2 года назад
Dumb question, but wouldn’t General Order 24 be justified in exercising the Omega Directive, especially in that episode of Voyager?
@noanswer1864
@noanswer1864 2 года назад
@@Penfrindle That's the sad thing about the Omega directive. An idealist lickspittle can flail, moan, and gnash their teeth at the inhumanity of destroying an entire planet from orbit, but at the end of the day if the world beneath you does something stupid with that omega particle, it's game over for a significant portion of your quadrant of space. Do you kill millions to save trillions? People see it as a choice between pushing the launch button and just walking away. It's not. It's a choice between pushing the launch button on one world, or pushing the launch button on hundreds of worlds. It's a crying shame that you've got to be the captain to make such a decision, but it's easy to see why the directive exists.
@igotudave
@igotudave 2 года назад
@@Penfrindle the omega directive rescinds the prime directive, so yes it can be used if the threat is dire enough
@BasementBerean
@BasementBerean 2 года назад
I think the locations of restrooms on starships must be top secret. I've never seen one.
@OnTheNerdySide
@OnTheNerdySide 2 года назад
They're on the blueprints for the Enterprise-D that was sold starting in the 90s. There's one off the bridge on the starboard side next to the door that leads to the observation lounge, and if you look carefully, I think there's a private one for Picard in the alcove in the back of his ready room.
@BasementBerean
@BasementBerean 2 года назад
@@OnTheNerdySide Well, I guess "rest" goes with "ready" when you're the captain. Thanks for info.
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 2 года назад
Kirk sat on one in the brig scene in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.
@Aezetyr
@Aezetyr 2 года назад
@@tetravega567 It also had the strangest piece of notation I've ever seen in Trek: "Do not use while in spacedock.".
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 2 года назад
@@BasementBerean "Computer, emergency site to site transport! Target the contents of my bowels, and energize!"
@AJFisherDesign
@AJFisherDesign 2 года назад
Interesting content and feedback. Yes, as others have mentioned: - the Guardian of Forever - the whole God / Eden planet at center of the galaxy & god-like powers at edge of galaxy in TOS - Spocks’s time travel formula (the solar sling-shot) - Scotty’s transporting while at warp speed - the creepy, screaming parasite creatures from TNG “Conspiracy” (I hope this topic is revisited more) - Mannheim’s formulas and methods for screwing with time TNG “We’ll Always have Paris”
@LanMandragon1720
@LanMandragon1720 2 года назад
The creatures were originally supposed to be the Borg before they went with the tech zombie thing.
@BluegrassGeek
@BluegrassGeek 2 года назад
Star Trek Online brough up the "Conspiracy" bugs during one of its story arcs, making them a servant species of the Iconians.
@sunflower5103
@sunflower5103 2 года назад
The solar sling-shot was used in picard by the queen borg to go back in the past if i remember it right
@louisalectube
@louisalectube 2 года назад
If I remember correctly, and I think I do, all things concerning time travel are investigated and thus known by the Department of Temporal Investigations (I think an episode of DS9 had DTI agents in regards to Sisko's involvement with the Bell Riots?). I would think this includes knowledge of the sling-shot effect. And I believe Kirk and his crew had a reputation due to their time traveling.
@0eroOverride
@0eroOverride 2 года назад
They did the solar sling shot using the borg Queen lmfso
@jonathanschultesdulcimer
@jonathanschultesdulcimer 2 года назад
I would add to the Borg file. When 1701B rescued Guinan & Soran, it was known El-Aurians were refugees. I would think they mentioned who they were running from, especially since the Hansen's knew a little bit & were authorized by Federation to do more research a few years before the J-25 encounter.
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84 2 года назад
Agreed. And a great point👍. I never thought of that before!
@manticore4952
@manticore4952 Год назад
They mention that the Borg were nothing but rumour, and when Picard first encounters the Borg he asks Guinan about them. The Federation must think they are just like any other war like race, the El Aurians who encountered them up close and personal would be assimilated so the knowledge would be limited.
@kyletakemoto9628
@kyletakemoto9628 2 года назад
Don't forget about the Red Angel suit, the Guardian of Forever, and Joseph Sisko's Gumbo recipe
@NeilBlumengarten
@NeilBlumengarten 2 года назад
Genesis allowed is not! Is planet forbidden!
@ragtowne
@ragtowne 2 года назад
To your planet: welcome!
@NeilBlumengarten
@NeilBlumengarten 2 года назад
@@ragtowne I think that's *my* line, stranger.
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows 2 года назад
I really dislike it when they treat technology bans as some kind of universal law that applies to the entire galaxy. Just because the Federation bans spore drives doesn't mean a random alien on the other side of the galaxy won't start developing it. And considering how many technologically advanced species are in the Milky Way, someone will inevitably discover the technology.
@GPsarakis
@GPsarakis 2 года назад
Good point, but since the series is focused on the Federation and the Alpha/Beta quadrants anything father out is hard to know until they decide to start expanding more into other areas. We also have whatever tech is developed outside our own galaxy to.
@madcalibur9410
@madcalibur9410 2 года назад
They do this because they've written themselves in a corner. Spore drives shouldn't exist at that time and trying to keep hundreds (if not thousands) of people keeping it a secret is bad writing.
@GPsarakis
@GPsarakis 2 года назад
@@madcalibur9410 Hundreds which mostly make up those on the ship itself is easy to do. Specially now that they're all way into the future. Regardless, why shouldn't they exist? Is there something in some piece of lore that says no? If it's just a one off prototype that never quite worked right till later events I don't see the issue.
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows 2 года назад
@@madcalibur9410 the problem is that they didn't introduce more problems into the spore drive technology. It kind of makes sense why people aren't making Omega particles everywhere since it requires rare resources, advanced technology, and whoever tries to make it can get their entire civilization blown up. With the spore drive, it's not that hard to get into the spore network. The spores are everywhere. There are dangers involved but no more dangerous than back when we sent fleets of ships out to sail the oceans in the 1500's and half of them were lost at sea.
@madcalibur9410
@madcalibur9410 2 года назад
@@GPsarakis Two prototypes. The other one was destroyed. And are we to believe Stamus build and created the tech all alone? With no scientific teams? Building two prototypes in secret would take A LOT of workers, even with automation, which is not that far along from what we’ve seen from TOS and the movie. It’s the same thing with aliens today and NASA supposedly hiding the knowledge from us but on the Star Trek scale. Thousand of people have to keep quiet. Its a ridiculous feat to accomplish even with section 31. So aside from a genocide, Knowledge of discovery and the spore drive would leak.
@ziggygunz2447
@ziggygunz2447 2 года назад
Ok gotta give big ups to the editor of this video for the line of "...dangerous tech.." being lined up with video of Data interacting with a Chinese finger trap. Lmfao!
@joerider3769
@joerider3769 2 года назад
I would think time travel would be a big one, esecially the knowledge that you can alter the past to changevthe future! I wonder how heavily guarded the planet where The Guardian is based...
@greyshadow9498
@greyshadow9498 2 года назад
An old technical manual, The Worlds of the Federation lists Gateway's (The Guardian's planet) location as CLASSIFIED and quarantined under "General Prohibition P-119" This WAS a canon source book at one time, not sure if it still is, but the information was never mentioned in any on-screen dialog. Star Trek Online used this information when designing a mission where you have to visit the Guardian to stop a Klingon from changing the past. (But of course STO is NOT a canon source)
@ChristopherG1990
@ChristopherG1990 2 года назад
I wonder if the omega directive still applies in the 32nd century because it was heavily implied that the 10-C were harnessing Omega since they were mining boronite, which was the same element the Borg used to synthesize Omega.
@veggiet2009
@veggiet2009 2 года назад
In the time between Voyager and the 32nd century any number of events could have happened which would make Omega Directive either less classified or even more useful. The events of Voyager alone would mean that there would be an entire starship crew with the classified knowledge and that would be hard to 'hush up' once the crew returned to the alpha quandrant. During the Time wars perhaps Omega was once again used to try developing weapons. Also after the burn, perhaps scientists with the classified knowledge tried to use omega to craft replacement warp drives.
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 2 года назад
@@veggiet2009 Only the command crew of Voyager was briefed on Omega. "What I say here will not leave this room." And we can bet someone tried to use Omega in the Time Wars or after the Burn. Given the Gorn tried _something_ involving Wormholes that ripped their system appart, it is save to say a lot of desperate attempts were made.
@davidtomlin237
@davidtomlin237 2 года назад
OMAGA the sign if the UM collage
@davidtomlin237
@davidtomlin237 2 года назад
OMAGA . Sign
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 2 года назад
@@davidtomlin237 What?
@imkluu
@imkluu 2 года назад
Ellie is so beautiful. Wasn't there a scientist who used some proto-matter to reignite a star in an episode of DS-9?
@evanlucas8914
@evanlucas8914 2 года назад
You probably left them out for the sake of brevity but you forgot the details of the sphere data and the "red angel" suit being classified along with discovery. There's also the recent classification of the existence of "time crystals" that the new Cpt Pike used to see his own death.
@amigajoe1
@amigajoe1 2 года назад
We really need some more Section 31 stories. Lot of potential for Intrigue, scandal, and the dark side of the Federation...
@leexgx
@leexgx 2 года назад
That's beyond classified unfortunately 🕶️
@timfurnier7061
@timfurnier7061 2 года назад
The Federation wasn't afraid of people learning the secrets of the power of the Talosians. It was afraid that the Talosians would get human beings and breed a slave race. That was mentioned in that very episode.
@jtkirkfan2002
@jtkirkfan2002 2 года назад
In the end, that wasn’t the reason for the quarantine though. The Talosians admitted after studying the Enterprise’s database that humans were too dangerous when kept in captivity even if it was “pleasant and benevolent” and that was why they allowed Pike to leave. When Pike suggested some form of cooperation or trade might help save the Talosians, they replied that humans would learn their power of illusion and destroy themselves too. That was why no contact was allowed with Talos IV.
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 2 года назад
Meanwhile, on Betazed...
@HariSeldon913
@HariSeldon913 2 года назад
@@jtkirkfan2002 So the humans invented the holodeck instead.
@gordondavis6168
@gordondavis6168 2 года назад
And the Talosians could penetrate the Federation better than the changelings - the Talosians could convince people that scans showed the Talosians as human, that the Talosian was an admiral, that it would be a good idea to bomb the Klingon home world, etc.
@pietervanderzwaan4295
@pietervanderzwaan4295 2 года назад
@@jtkirkfan2002 if only the talosians joined the federation they would be saved and the galaxy would be safer too.
@Tasarran
@Tasarran 2 года назад
I don't understand why everyone stopped worrying about Genesis once it proved unstable; the thing everyone was afraid of was the world-destroying capability, which it still has...
@harrytabb328
@harrytabb328 2 года назад
The Guardian of Forever is probably something that isn't legal to discuss.
@mikalbell8125
@mikalbell8125 2 года назад
All governments have secrets. It makes sense that the Federation would have secrets as well. Great list.
@Jayk129
@Jayk129 2 года назад
#11 - Captain Kirk wears a toupee.
@paulcouch38
@paulcouch38 2 года назад
I think Section 31 mini-series was one of the best concepts-that-never-happened (or did it?)
@dragnl0rd
@dragnl0rd 2 года назад
Not sure why, but this list got me wanting a video about some of the most powerful races in star trek (that aren't the Q). Talosians, Cytherians, Organians, that race with the hive mind that captured Picard to analyse the concept of authority, etc.
@zxb995511
@zxb995511 2 года назад
The "Prophets" from DS9 are probably similar to the "Q" in power.
@smof1
@smof1 2 года назад
I'd add Nagilum, and the Douwd
@AWW8472
@AWW8472 2 года назад
I wonder what Starfleet did with the mission logs concerning Gary Seven in the 1960s? And where was Gary when WWIII was starting? Seems like he and his patrons dropped the ball. Another issue I'd always assumed was classified at most or suppressed knowledge at least was the existence of silicon based lifeforms. Dr. Crusher didn't know anything about the actual existence of silicon based lifeforms but weren't the Horta silicon based?
@l.mosesfrazier7436
@l.mosesfrazier7436 Год назад
She should have known about them, as Jim Kirk’s Enterprise had a young Horta in his crew.
@plucas1
@plucas1 2 года назад
I was under the impression that the main reason the knowledge and use of the Spore Drive was suppressed was because they found the subspace mycelium network the drive used was linked via subspace to most biospheres in the universe, and a misuse of the drive could lead to a chain reaction that could extinguish all organic life in the universe.
@AkariEnderwolf
@AkariEnderwolf 2 года назад
I assumed it was because the only person who even knew how to make one, was no longer available to contact. No Staments, no Spore Drive. Since the later seasons show that empaths can use the spore drive, Bajorans would likely become more desired on ships as the tech spreads. I hope we see some Bajorans as Discovery continues.
@kumaonrain7955
@kumaonrain7955 2 года назад
@@AkariEnderwolf Betazoids?
@AkariEnderwolf
@AkariEnderwolf 2 года назад
​@@kumaonrain7955 Yes, I was thinking of the right person from Next Generation, but wrong species. I haven't seen tng in a while so I kinda forgot the name of the specias, and jumped on the first species that came to mind that started with "B"
@kumaonrain7955
@kumaonrain7955 2 года назад
@@AkariEnderwolf Well, you didn't go full Breen. ...though telepathic Breen might make Discovery more palatable for me personally. Cheers, Akari.
@JesusFlores-ju3mh
@JesusFlores-ju3mh 2 года назад
Not sure if it counts but on the Trill home world, it’s highly classified secret that almost everyone is able to join with a symbiont. But due to their small number, the government lies and makes it almost impossible for everyone. They only select a small amount le trills for joining.
@NialasDubh
@NialasDubh Год назад
02:40 This makes no sense to me. If you want to use Genesis as a weapon, why do you care that the results are unstable? By the time that instability kicks in, It's already killed every single thing you were aiming at. There's no way Klingon warriors would care about that.
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 2 года назад
"Space Is Deep" Should be the motto of the Federation Information Service. As in, there's lots of cool stuff out there and lots of ways to hide things no one should know.
@robpa3169
@robpa3169 2 года назад
I can't remember if it was covered in the episode, but I bet the fact that a transporter can reverse physical aging got classified pretty quick. Someone would have to go Thanos in no time. "Rascals" TNG
@wifegrant
@wifegrant Год назад
Essentially transporters create clones instead of actually transporting people. So, every person in the Star Trek universe has been atomized, killed, and cloned at the destination. All your favorite characters have died multiple times.
@philiprice7875
@philiprice7875 Год назад
after the de-aging why not have transporter programmed to de-die so if someone dies on an away mission the "trace" is used to re-create the living person
@robpa3169
@robpa3169 Год назад
@@philiprice7875 There’s a book called fate of the Phoenix by sondra marshak from the mid 80s that used that plot point. I think it was a multi book trek series but I can’t remember the other titles, they were quite good.
@bennettfranz8939
@bennettfranz8939 2 года назад
You for About ablative armor, and the Borg weapons that Janeway brought back from the future. In the Voyager finale.
@randybentley2633
@randybentley2633 2 года назад
I'm surprised that the Guardian of Time wasn't at least secret or higher given how you're one oops away from redefining your existence. Unless the mere act of activating the phasing portion of the Phase Cloak can itself be seen as "Cloaking", then shouldn't Starfleet be free and clear to develop that portion of the technology? Lord knows that a device of that type would be of immeasurable use by the Federation and Starfleet, be it as small as a runabout or as large as a planet.
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84 2 года назад
Oooh. That's a good one!
@randybentley2633
@randybentley2633 2 года назад
@@DrummingWriterTrekfan84 hehe which one?
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84 2 года назад
@@randybentley2633 both
@bryanjackson8
@bryanjackson8 2 года назад
If Section 31 was such a secret, why did they wear black Starfleet insignias in Discovery?
@Chuck_Hooks
@Chuck_Hooks 2 года назад
Balance of Terror: Kirk to crew: "What you do not know and must now be told..."
@deathstrike
@deathstrike 2 года назад
Another huge secret missed was the technology held by the "Abramsverse". It was quite impressive. Especially USS Vengeance. A ship capable of firing while in warp, and this is speculation, but possibly even transwarp technology. Also able to be operated by either a minimal crew, or only one person. Admiral Marcus did demonstrate some of the tech when he (spoilers) attacked the Enterprise IN WARP, and blasted it out of warp. It was implied that during the incursion by Nero's ship the Narada that USS Kelvin, having scans of Nero's ship and possibly salvaged tech,helped Starfleet to develop highly advanced ships far sooner in their universe. Vengeance alone would have been a game changer against aggressive enemies like the Klingons, Romulans, Breen, Dominion, and especially the Borg. Which (speculation) are also different in the Abramsverse. There is a Borg "King" rather than a Queen. They are also more aggressive, more agile, and supposedly more "humanoid" meaning their tech is more internalized than the Borg in STTNG. So perhaps the Abramsverse ships reflect advances gained from the Borg and are better able to defend themselves. But Vengeance alone, would have been the greatest advancement for the TOS and STTNG era.
@BeyondDaX
@BeyondDaX 2 года назад
True if the third film have been successful and continued that timeline. Now its mostly forgotten
@oddsolostrike
@oddsolostrike Год назад
The Scimitar fired while at warp in Nemesis, doing the exact same thing you described.
@l.mosesfrazier7436
@l.mosesfrazier7436 2 года назад
I would submit the TNG story of placing human minds into android bodies. Data’s “Grandfather “ Dr. Ira Graves successfully transferred his mind into Data. This would have made humanity functionally immortal.
@cyphi474
@cyphi474 2 года назад
Pike knew about Mirror Universe, but Kirk didnt? I mean, Sisko knew and he wasnt even Captain rank yet, i think. Ammount of reading new Captain has to do must be enormous.
@ChrisRyot
@ChrisRyot 2 года назад
I like how Discovery was classified and everyone was forbidden for all eternity to ever talk about it again and yet in SNW they casually chat about the events as if nothing had happened
@travisjohnson622
@travisjohnson622 2 года назад
As far as i could tell. Only spock, una, and pike, mentioned discovery. If others we're present it was mentioned so vaguely that anyone who wasnt there would have no idea what they were talking about. I think there was an episode in the series where something was mentioned to Lian out of necessity. But not much info wash shared.
@jayluck8047
@jayluck8047 2 года назад
The secret location of the new Tribble homeworld after the Klingon purge.
@philly83
@philly83 2 года назад
Another lovely video with the lovely Ellie.
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84 2 года назад
Agreed 💯
@JohnPates
@JohnPates 2 года назад
I like the sneaky LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE at 10:08.
@13strong
@13strong Год назад
Wasn't there a TNG episode that revealed that all major Alpha Quadrant species were descended from one ancient species, and then everyone forgot about it?
@Mighty-Man
@Mighty-Man 2 года назад
And one more. So called "Temporal War" is a huge problem but AFAIK it is mentioned only in one Star Trek series.
@FactMansMysteries
@FactMansMysteries 2 года назад
Martin and Marcus did Fantastic work editing and packaging the Episode, and Ellie is a Phenomenal Presenter...One of your best Top 10s ever.
@mikeburkhart8336
@mikeburkhart8336 2 года назад
Top secret .... The planet of living machines Spock saw in STMP is the BORGS HOME WORLD!¡!!!!!!!!!! 😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯
@TokoGT
@TokoGT 2 года назад
I wished they would have brought up General Order 7 in Discovery even just to dismiss it, just to keep up with the cannon and to add a little more drama. Would have been cool to see Pike bring up the old file onboard Discovery briefly as a reminder of who he was protecting and the real danger on such a mission.
@Zamugustar
@Zamugustar 2 года назад
Season 2, episode 8. "Spock and Burnham head to Talos IV, where the process of healing Spock forces the siblings to confront their troubled past."
@GabePuratekuta
@GabePuratekuta 2 года назад
The Discovery's equipped with cannons? I thought it was a cruiser, not an escort.
@knuckle12356
@knuckle12356 2 года назад
#3; "only high ranking officers like Captain Pike were briefed on the mirror universe [etc.] "....Lower ranking officers, like _Captain_ Kirk, were not filled in on the classified data..." 🤔🤨😑🙄
@vertigq5126
@vertigq5126 2 года назад
Thanks for the interesting vid! Didn’t know about the Pegasus. Keep it up and God bless you :)
@Mighty-Man
@Mighty-Man 2 года назад
One more. There are three official books telling that Kirk is alive in time when Janeway lives.
@JoePlett
@JoePlett 2 года назад
I'm unclear. Does General Order 7 require the death penalty IF you Like & Subscribe or is that the punishment if you DON'T? 🤔😏
@Mighty-Man
@Mighty-Man 2 года назад
Don't know whether it is classified but it is rarely mentioned. Spock wasn't the first hybrid child from human and vulcan races.
@nitroxide17
@nitroxide17 2 года назад
Spore drive is the biggest BS. Magic space mushrooms. Right. Faster than transwarp conduits… then why don’t the borg use it?
@chriss-nf1bd
@chriss-nf1bd 2 года назад
The Guardian of Tomarrow would have gotten a classification. Argonians? extinct race who's transporter tech that has no limit in distance. Both mentioned in TNG and DS9
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 2 года назад
I was speaking with a friend after watching Star Trek III again, and we questioned the whole concept of the Omega Molecule, and how it should have been Protomatter instead. Search for Spock already highlighted the unstable nature of Protomatter, which Genesis only exacerbated, so they could have kept this concept into Voyager for the episode in question. The only issue is... the whole "perfect molecule" thing with Seven of Nine... which was kinda blah anyway lol
@TIG5574
@TIG5574 2 года назад
Can't it just be both? There are many deadly sources of energy that can get people killed if not handled correctly both in fiction and real life
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 2 года назад
@@TIG5574 it just would be nice if some things that were apparently tremendously important at some point were... mentioned ever again
@TIG5574
@TIG5574 2 года назад
@@k1productions87 I understand. And maybe it will be again some day. With so many shows on now and TONS of references to the past, it may show up again. Did you ever think we would see the Guardian of Forever ever again? That showed up on Discovery after 50 years. The sky is the limit for this stuff today.
@locutus442
@locutus442 2 года назад
Another one that could have been on this list is the events of the Deep Space 9 episode "In The Pale Moonlight". I can guarantee you if the Romulans ever found out about that, there would be war. In no way would they simply ignore something like that.
@danielobrien5255
@danielobrien5255 2 года назад
Is it classified if only Sisko (and Garik) know about the plot? The episode ends with Sisko wiping the personal log so Starfleet might not even know??
@locutus442
@locutus442 2 года назад
@@danielobrien5255 Starfleet did at least know about it, as earlier in the episode Sisko mentioned that Starfleet Command had given the plan their blessing.
@danielobrien5255
@danielobrien5255 2 года назад
@@locutus442 actually? Surely it was just inviting the ambassador aboard and potentially try to con him. Don't think they had full on murder approved
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 2 года назад
Romulans are big on political subterfuge/assassinations, they may have respected that Starfleet had the cojones to do it
@locutus442
@locutus442 2 года назад
@@danielobrien5255 The part of killing the Romulan Senator? No, that part was all Garak's plan. The part about deceiving him and the rest of Romulus into the war? You bet.
@xplayfan1500
@xplayfan1500 2 года назад
There was a DS9 episode where Ezri Dax had to use a top secret sniper rifle. Which I thought was classified Starfleet technology. Seeing as it could shoot a projectile through walls.
@williamlim9066
@williamlim9066 2 года назад
The shooting through walls was a mod. O'Brien said the rifle itself was abandoned tech because Starfleet preferred phaser pew-pews.
@GabePuratekuta
@GabePuratekuta 2 года назад
The rifle itself wasn't classified. It was scrapped as an anti-Borg weapon.
@philiprice7875
@philiprice7875 Год назад
was not classified but the replication was restricted as still a deadly but obsolete weapon
@teddyinjapan
@teddyinjapan Год назад
Why didn’t anyone know about the discovery and time travel and…. Oh it was a secret. Why a hack excuse
@dustinnonyabuisness8338
@dustinnonyabuisness8338 2 года назад
This video is A perfect reason why I hate discovery. It ignores so much that it's all "let's forget and classify it" stupid.
@cjt217
@cjt217 2 года назад
10:08 xD oh my goodness
@chefdean7257
@chefdean7257 2 года назад
@ 0:25. Tech too dangerous to share . . . Wish you'd discuss that extremely advanced anti android device. A real game changer !
@JeremyWS
@JeremyWS 2 года назад
I always hated the existence of the spore drive. It sounds way too much like a MacGuffin device. And the explanation for its existence has never really made sense to me. I liked this video.
@GabePuratekuta
@GabePuratekuta 2 года назад
Because it is.
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