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Starfleet's ongoing mission: to explore strange new worlds and never mention them again.
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@OrdinaryDude
@OrdinaryDude 2 года назад
About Q... They also never really explored Guinan's reaction to seeing Q. Like she wanted to kill him, and was confident enough to do it.
@1978rharris
@1978rharris 2 года назад
That’s coming, possibly in Picard season 2
@thezone6960
@thezone6960 2 года назад
Because Q is limited to our universe where as Guinan us the same in all universes throughout the multiverse. She's beyond his reach therefore she's more powerful than the Q.
@Budymierdas
@Budymierdas 2 года назад
That wasn't Guinan, that was just Whoopi Goldber's reaction to seeing John de Lancie
@jaredjones1752
@jaredjones1752 2 года назад
Especially when Q says "this creature is not what she appears to be. She is an imp, and where she goes trouble always follows" Many fans assumed Q was just insulting Guinan, but there's a recent fan theory that what Q meant was Guinan is NOT actually an El-Aurian, but a much more malevolent entity merely posing as one. Sadly, they never explored the possibility.
@REALDEALFLEXSEAL
@REALDEALFLEXSEAL 2 года назад
@@jaredjones1752 maybe because that's not what it means
@jayb8934
@jayb8934 2 года назад
Their indifference towards Q makes sense. They know that the Continuum is not going to tell them anything or do anything significant for them. As carefree and nonchalant as Q acts, it’s pretty clear that the Q are as strict about not interfering with less advanced races as starfleet is. Janeway knew that Q wouldn’t even send Voyager home even though it would be nothing for him. She asks once because she had to at least try, but she’s not surprised when he refuses and she doesn’t try to force the point.
@Janoha17
@Janoha17 2 года назад
And as Death Wish showed, even the Q don't really know what happens after death (though Q does pretend to be a psychopomp for Picard in Tapestry)
@rainthemadocracy384
@rainthemadocracy384 2 года назад
@@Janoha17 The Q don't know what happens after THEIR death. Everyone else, they have clear knowledge and access to, as demonstrated in Tapestry. As for the indifference, it doesn't make sense. Quinn was a reasonable Q and yet no one picked his brain for anything, even though he and Q were dropping knowledge bombs during the trial.
@joeboxter3635
@joeboxter3635 2 года назад
@Jay B No. Everything Q does is an illusion. That is Starfleet theory. Not everyone believes it.
@jayb8934
@jayb8934 2 года назад
@@joeboxter3635 No where in Star Trek canon does it say that Starfleet doesn't believe that Q's power is real. They've seen more than enough evidence that it's real. They know very well that by human standards the Q are omnipotent. But they also know that it's pointless trying to learn anything from them.
@Keri-Kerigan
@Keri-Kerigan 2 года назад
@@jayb8934 exactly, it's like asking a cat to do something. Maybe it will listen, but will likely either ignore you or knock something breakable onto the floor.... or the next galaxy over. You simply can't trust the Q. It's simply best just to not attract their attention and hope they just go away.
@347Jimmy
@347Jimmy 2 года назад
Ellie: But, here he is, displaying *powers beyond belief* Q: absolutely wailing with his Mariachi band
@creyes4182
@creyes4182 2 года назад
I remember being a kid and having my mind blown with the common ancestor episode. And when they completely ignored it in the next one I was confused. I think I waited for months to see if it ever came back up, never did lol
@Tasarran
@Tasarran 2 года назад
I posted above that I was unsurprised... No matter if you're a believer in science and evolution, or a believer in creationism, most people believe all humans are related in some way, either through Adam and Ave or a common ancestor. Hasn't made much difference about how much we other people and hate the others as a species...
@DanBrown96
@DanBrown96 2 года назад
Agreed, I loved that episode!
@MEHoward
@MEHoward 2 года назад
Same.
@jsworpin
@jsworpin 2 года назад
They hopefully ignored it because it’s utterly ridiculous and shows a complete lack of understanding of evolution.
@hrs2044
@hrs2044 2 года назад
@@jsworpin Why is it ridiculous? Each species evolved specifically for their own planet's environment. Seems plausible and in line with our understanding of evolution.
@stevenjlovelace
@stevenjlovelace 2 года назад
Sisko's not impressed by Q because Sisko is also a god.
@lovehawks2814
@lovehawks2814 2 года назад
He didn't know he was Bajoran Jesus at the time though.
@1978rharris
@1978rharris 2 года назад
@@lovehawks2814 Q knew though
@ibrohiem
@ibrohiem 2 года назад
Q probably know the Prophets backed him and didn't want to fuck with him.
@KingfisherTalkingPictures
@KingfisherTalkingPictures 2 года назад
Best answer!
@thezone6960
@thezone6960 2 года назад
That's why Q never came back. When Sisko punched him Q realized he'd been knocked on his ass by another God.
@dragnl0rd
@dragnl0rd 2 года назад
As far as #2, I wonder how many people looking back at that episode realize that not only is the actress the same as the lead founder changeling in DS9, but that the form is similar to the changeling "default". Add to that the fact that the first encounter on the changeling homeworld has her explain that their species was solid and limited, once upon a time... coincidence?
@mingruitak2751
@mingruitak2751 2 года назад
great point!
@tedwojtasik8781
@tedwojtasik8781 2 года назад
Makes sense. When they were originally solid her ancestors were cool cats baby, reaaaaal smooth. The, when they evolved into goo they because total douchebags because that's what happens when you become goo-thing, you become an asshole.
@eriol_mits3121
@eriol_mits3121 2 года назад
I've always gone with the head cannon that the ancient humanoid and the Founders were distant relative for the same race, explaining the resemblance and the same actor..
@hackman669
@hackman669 2 года назад
Perhaps they are two species from the same planet. Solids influenced the liquid then things changed.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 2 года назад
Surely when they brought her (Salome Jens) back to play the lead Founder the idea must have occurred to them. Maybe they were even going to tie them together somehow but the idea got shot down for one reason or another. I would love to ask this question at a Star Trek convention!
@JohnS-il1dr
@JohnS-il1dr 2 года назад
They ignored that accident that created two Commander Rikers. Starfleet could have reversed engineered tech to duplicate humans perfectly
@1FatLittleMonkey
@1FatLittleMonkey 2 года назад
Backup any crew member periodically, so you can be restored to your last "save" if you die. (Those who consent, obviously.) Hell, any citizen who wishes.
@malkavianstr450
@malkavianstr450 2 года назад
Duplicate ships and crews, turn a few star system's mass into a fleet.
@marcelsgroot
@marcelsgroot 2 года назад
@@1FatLittleMonkey it would not be like that unless somehow you can put your own consioness in it. Otherwise it be more like you die but your identical twin lives on
@jessicantina
@jessicantina 2 года назад
@@marcelsgroot I mean for all we know that's what every transporter trip is
@marcelsgroot
@marcelsgroot 2 года назад
@@jessicantina possible yes
@seraphimvalkyrin4543
@seraphimvalkyrin4543 2 года назад
10:58 People really need to stop confusing the universe with a galaxy, they are not the same thing. They only seeded our galaxy, that's a big difference compared to an entire universe.
@phaiz55
@phaiz55 2 года назад
The Star Trek universe absolutely cares about Q even if some individuals do not. I would have replaced that spot with the Dyson Sphere they discovered then never brought up again.
@tedwojtasik8781
@tedwojtasik8781 2 года назад
No doubt, how ITF could they forget the Dyson Sphere? That is utter madness.
@TheNightmareMan
@TheNightmareMan 2 года назад
Voyager gets a pass on the warp thing because that's why they have nacelles that move to keep from damaging anything.
@OldJerzyDevil
@OldJerzyDevil 2 года назад
Good point! I know I've seen it before, but like that idea.
@DoctorX17
@DoctorX17 2 года назад
Yeah, the variable nacelle geometry is supposed to lessen the damage and make warp travel more efficient, but we never see it on any other ship...
@generalilbis
@generalilbis 2 года назад
@@DoctorX17 I've always gone with the headcanon that the Intrepid-class was the test bed for variable geometry nacelles and Voyager's disappearance meant that Starfleet suspended testing indefinitely while the tech was gone over with a fine tooth comb in case it was the cause for Voyager disappearing. By the time Voyager's crew used the Hirogen communications network to call home, refinements to fixed position nacelles had come along to make VG nacelles pointless due to increased maintenance needs.
@tedwojtasik8781
@tedwojtasik8781 2 года назад
The variable geometry nacelles are stupid, really, what's the point? Why not just duct tape them or whatever in the angled position and leave them there. It's just stupid but people dig it because, weeeeeeee, lookie here, the nacelles move...weeeeeeeeee.
@Swiftbow
@Swiftbow 2 года назад
That's just such a stupidly easy fix to something that was presented as a massive problem.
@brandonlink6568
@brandonlink6568 2 года назад
Well they did care about #6, they mention the warp speed limit a couple times after the episode and later warp engines, including the Intrepid's fancy variable-geometry pylons, were designed to be gentiler on subspace.
@ElysiaWhitemoonOmega
@ElysiaWhitemoonOmega 3 месяца назад
this maybe late but thats also the reason why the newer sovereign class (enterprise E) has a narrower profile, and everytime after that episode on TBG they mention they have permission, i doubt every episode is just the next day, its just that we only see episodes of adventures where something happens so it looks like they go passed 5 every episode, but in between the episodes with everyday life they dont go passed warp 5
@288theabe
@288theabe 2 года назад
I thought starfleet made a fix on the warp drive thing with the re-designed nacelles?
@allthingsnerd.4484
@allthingsnerd.4484 2 года назад
Correct. The writers HATED the warp speed limit, so they pretty much ignored it and then “solved the problem” with things like Voyager’s variable position nacelles.
@davvader
@davvader 2 года назад
Yes, it is solved.
@matthiasquickblade
@matthiasquickblade 2 года назад
Yeah I was going to say. Starfleet just develop better ships and nacelles. Like us converting to electric cars or w/e
@cb-gz1vl
@cb-gz1vl 2 года назад
The warp speed limit was only for that narrow corridor. It was in a nebula. It wasn't for general space. They even explain in the episode it was like people walking on the same carpet in a narrow hallway and wearing it out.
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 2 года назад
@@cb-gz1vl - It was all space - that narrow corridor was just the worst affected part at the time.
@kevinslater4126
@kevinslater4126 2 года назад
Warp drive damaging space is literally why the Voyager was built. They didn't forget about it.
@tedwojtasik8781
@tedwojtasik8781 2 года назад
Fuck space, what did space ever do for anyone.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 2 года назад
This is very interesting and makes sense, but where is this mentioned? I'd like to find out more about this.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 2 года назад
@@JustWasted3HoursHere its the whole reason for the redesigned nacelles.
@VaporeonEnjoyer1
@VaporeonEnjoyer1 2 года назад
And also why even bring up Spore Drive as an alternative? The reason it never gets brought up again is because the idea was from the Kurtzmann writing team writing a prequel series 15 years later. There is no reason to try to work a theory to explain why it's never brought up in universe, because the real world reason is the only explanation you need.
@Psepha
@Psepha 2 года назад
@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 Then the question potentially gets flipped - if you're going to retcon something into existence so hard to the point that it makes no sense that it wasn't brought up in the future, why didn't they think about giving a reason for it not being available in the future?
@dernvader6876
@dernvader6876 2 года назад
Geordi asks some guy “have you seen the dolphins?” in the episode “The perfect mate”
@StarFleet_Tech1701
@StarFleet_Tech1701 2 года назад
@Dern Vadar, the 'some guy' was the Kriosian Ambassador in the episode "The Perfect Mate".
@FVanth
@FVanth 2 года назад
I've always thought it odd that the original humanoid looked a lot like Odo and the Founders, in particular the female changeling. I've often wondered if there was something deeper there, and hoped the writers would explore that more.
@wmorrison02
@wmorrison02 2 года назад
I thought that also.
@Thurgosh_OG
@Thurgosh_OG 2 года назад
They also look a lot like the original Martians from the Martian Chronicles TV series.
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 2 года назад
Not only does she look similar, it's the same actress as the female changling in DS9.
@marktowlermt
@marktowlermt 2 года назад
In my head cannon, the Founders and the Seeders are one and the same. They seeded life, evolved and became shapeshifters
@DavidLS1
@DavidLS1 2 года назад
Since the Dominion changelings on Earth perfectly mimicked humans, why did the female changeling make herself look like Odo?
@sarahscott5305
@sarahscott5305 2 года назад
Technically, the first life on earth to make contact with an alien was when Q fiddled around with the primordial protein goo in All Good Things 😁
@Peaceforall20111
@Peaceforall20111 2 года назад
But remember that was not what happened that was an alternate version so that technically never happened so that’s not the first time because that never happened
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 2 года назад
@@Peaceforall20111 - You sure do love the word "happened"
@dboymax1
@dboymax1 2 года назад
Who is to say Q was not there in the actual "Prime Timeline". Remember he is omnipotent so something like is easily possible for him.
@wearwolf2500
@wearwolf2500 2 года назад
@@JohnnyWednesday What happens in an alternate timeline, stays in an alternate timeline
@Peaceforall20111
@Peaceforall20111 2 года назад
@@dboymax1 Now we’re just gonna make suppositions about things that never happened I mean what the heck that never happened so you’re gonna say that could’ve happened while that’s not what happened in the show I could say 1 million things happened
@curtisbme
@curtisbme 2 года назад
@11:47 It can easily be explained why the crew doesn't ask Q any bigger questions: You can't trust anything he says to be the truth.
@MyRegardsToTheDodo
@MyRegardsToTheDodo 2 года назад
Exactly. I always thought that Janeway kept up with his antics because deep down she still hoped that Q would bring her and the Voyager home one day. Sisko knocked him on his ass and Q never bothered messing with him again. And Picard simply didn't have it in him to get any control over Q.
@dvcreservations
@dvcreservations 2 года назад
Yeah he’s just going to lie to you.
@FirstDan2000
@FirstDan2000 2 года назад
This list was surprisingly good. I did get annoyed when Voyager didn't use the slipstream drive after discovering that red-lining it would make it blow up. They could have used it in short trips. Or could have used the Delta Flyer as a taxi service - didn't it also have the slipstream drive installed? The pro-genitor looks so much like the dominion founder that it was probably her, and it was a massive hoax. She tried to trick them all into...... hmmm, no, i haven't thought this through.
@travcollier
@travcollier 2 года назад
@Brendan Kent IIRC, the Founders discovered the wormhole quite a while back. Odo wasn't the first explorer sent out .
@DocWolph
@DocWolph 2 года назад
The Founders were retconned as the Progenitors before they became "liquid lifeforms", metaphors/shapeshifters.
@someguy4331
@someguy4331 2 года назад
@FirstDan2000 no, voyager was the only ship that had the drive. the flyer was just inside the field being generated.
@benwillems8584
@benwillems8584 2 года назад
They didn't know the Delta flyer could succesfully get there.
@DM-wj8br
@DM-wj8br 2 года назад
@Brendan Kent The actress for both the progenitor woman and the female changeling was Salome Jens
@Zoomer30_
@Zoomer30_ 2 года назад
Really hard to watch the "dna computer" episode without thinking that the result looks excatly like The Founder leader.
@lasarith2
@lasarith2 2 года назад
Same actress.
@orlock20
@orlock20 2 года назад
@@lasarith2 In the same makeup. Maybe that's why they are called Founders.
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 2 года назад
@@orlock20 - Do we know if the founders being Odo's race was planned from the start? or were they a creation later on in the writing process that just happened to fit in nicely with Odo - or were otherwise inspired by him? IE did they plan a big bad enemy and only later did they make them the same race as Odo?
@orlock20
@orlock20 2 года назад
@@JohnnyWednesday Planning on Star Trek? There are several videos that point out that Star Trek franchise does not plan.
@Adam_Outdoors
@Adam_Outdoors 2 года назад
@@orlock20 No 's completely different makeup.
@nottingham2222
@nottingham2222 2 года назад
Star Trek throws away advance tech all the time. In TOS Nomad enhances the warp engines and Kirk tells him to reverse the changes when he should have just told Nomad to slow the ship down but keep the changes. There are many more examples form TOS alone. Never mind next gen or DS9.
@JoeBorrello
@JoeBorrello 2 года назад
Yes, that’s a big one. Since Nomad states that in his accident “there was much damage”, and he thinks Kirk is The Creator, Kirk should have told him he wanted to check him over to be sure everything is ok, then convince him to shut down so Scotty could disassemble him and reverse engineer all the goodies.
@kurtreber9813
@kurtreber9813 2 года назад
Any unproven tech should be thoroughly tested before use though.
@georgelionon9050
@georgelionon9050 2 года назад
I remember in the old days even in TOS; in one episode they encounter some group that can make humans act super-mega fast by throwing something into the tea.. and just because they lied to them that her aging weapon was a sideeffect if getting hurt during super-speed they never ever ever took on that again.
@scotthudson008
@scotthudson008 2 года назад
Remember in season 1 when Starfleet was infiltrated by body snatching bugs? Yeah, they forgot pretty quickly as well.
@talonrap8130
@talonrap8130 2 года назад
Ugh I will never and cannot forget. Gross!
@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 2 года назад
I just was thinking about that one.
@moriaty123
@moriaty123 2 года назад
Starfleet meets a near-omnipotent being that puts them on trial, and systematically negs him until he's chasing after them for attention.
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs 2 года назад
Yeah. In "Into Darkness" it turns out Khans blood literally can bring Kirk back from the dead. And no one bats an eye.
@XentorAntarix
@XentorAntarix 2 года назад
Yea and this film was soooooo mutch Star Trek...... "Hey we have Pockettransporters that can beam us to Chronos".... Yes that was real Star Trek.... NOPE.
@chriswalton6899
@chriswalton6899 2 года назад
a warm welcome to the TrekCulture family, Ellie :)
@jamesgordley5000
@jamesgordley5000 2 года назад
Transporting to and from an entire alternate evil universe, never seemed to get much attention from Starfleet command either.
@dvcreservations
@dvcreservations 2 года назад
Spoiler warning :::::::: :::: perhaps starfleet heads know secretly that the universes are drifting apart anyway and the issue will resolve itself.
@lesterbarnswallow6526
@lesterbarnswallow6526 2 года назад
My favorite is the uninhabited Dyson Sphere in Next Generation that they just leave behind.
@garysmith2450
@garysmith2450 2 года назад
There’s no way in a million years I would have made myself an adult again in that episode ‘Rascals’.
@dvcreservations
@dvcreservations 2 года назад
Agreed. That’s insane. There’s literally no downside.
@pseudotasuki
@pseudotasuki 2 года назад
I think it made sense for Keiko and (to a lesser degree) Picard. Considering how long El-Aurians live, Guinan might not have wanted to extend her life.
@willshields383
@willshields383 2 года назад
They also just forgot that they can travel across the galaxy virtually instantly after Reg Barclay got zapped by the Cytherian probe. Guess no-one saved Reg's holodeck program...
@crabobserver
@crabobserver 2 года назад
They don't understand how to operate it
@chunkychuck
@chunkychuck 2 года назад
Not to mention the aliens they met.
@cb-gz1vl
@cb-gz1vl 2 года назад
@@crabobserver Yes but it was all done with the Enterprise resources and the ship would have logged how it was done.
@t3h51d3w1nd3r
@t3h51d3w1nd3r 2 года назад
@@cb-gz1vl motorbikes and small prop planes have the same internal combustion engine layout but just cause you know how to ride a motorbike, controlling the throttle, clutch and gears and can start a prop engine, doesn't mean you understand slats, cord, rudder, flaps, what to do at stall angles, prop overspeed, egt temp, radio, etc. Hell, people are able to drive cars but ask them to change a fuse or jump start it with an external battery and you're asking for trouble XD.
@topogigio7031
@topogigio7031 2 года назад
You sound like a Zoomer that just watched their first episode and it was with Barcley
@nikon3822
@nikon3822 2 года назад
12:27 Presenter Sean Ferrick? Way to go Sean, I'm very impressed by your Cross-Dressing skills, didn't notice it was you at all. All humor aside, good presentation Ellie, thank you.
@ianlister7333
@ianlister7333 2 года назад
if I had to guess Sean, doesnt need much encouragement to give it a go.
@NaturallyMe2011
@NaturallyMe2011 2 года назад
Voyager's redesigned nacelles were supposed to fix the problem. With damaging space
@wolftitan
@wolftitan 2 года назад
Actually pretending the episode never happened fixed the problem. 🤣
@JohnS-il1dr
@JohnS-il1dr 2 года назад
@@wolftitan That episode was heavy handed about climate change. In my head cannon subspace self healed, or maybe Q just reset it because he was bored one day.
@wanderinghistorian
@wanderinghistorian 2 года назад
#6 - they actually do mention the warp speed limit in ONE additional episode - Picard mentions invoking an emergency so they can go to high warp. But that is it. Never mentioned again.
@luphawk
@luphawk 2 года назад
the restrictions on warp speed were only meant for that particular area and the data about warp drive damaging subspace did influence ship designs moving forward. that's why later federation ships were sleeker, more "streamlined", it was more efficient and cut down on the damage they did to subspace.
@jonmyers8046
@jonmyers8046 2 года назад
Actually there was a book published after ST IV titled "Probe". It's all about the alien probe that contacted the whales.
@gspendlove
@gspendlove 2 года назад
I read that. IIRC, pretty good book about teaching the Probe to communicate with other species _without_ wiping them out. I enjoyed it.
@sid2112
@sid2112 2 года назад
@@gspendlove I can see that conversation..... "Sooooooo hi. Yeah that com array you use is SUPER destructive. Use this subspace radio instead. We also brought the whales back, uh, sorry."
@StarFleet_Tech1701
@StarFleet_Tech1701 2 года назад
I bought the audiobook.
@charlesjohnson7458
@charlesjohnson7458 2 года назад
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
@jonmyers8046
@jonmyers8046 2 года назад
@@charlesjohnson7458 You're welcome
@DominikHoga
@DominikHoga 2 года назад
missing dyson sphere
@juzoli
@juzoli 2 года назад
Star Trek is like each episode is its own parallel universe in the multiverse. What happens in one episode has no effect in any other episode…
@jaybea365
@jaybea365 2 года назад
Unless you kill Tasha
@alanjenkins1508
@alanjenkins1508 2 года назад
Time travel makes all history temporary anyway.
@Hawkeye26
@Hawkeye26 2 года назад
12:30 "Presenter: Sean Ferrick" MY GAWD has Sean undergone a rapid change!
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof 2 года назад
"Guys, I think we might have found actual gods. They are pricks though, so try to ignore them."
@nickcampa4590
@nickcampa4590 2 года назад
4. The creature is akin to a Q, who was trapped there by the Q and other similar entities. They need help leaving the barrier because it vastly reduces it's abilities.
@ariadnefrolich7243
@ariadnefrolich7243 2 года назад
When you think about it, the Q love to mess with and torment other species (Q himself even admitted that much in Deja Q) so the fact that there is a being wicked enough that even the Q are like 'yeah, he/it can't be allowed to roam free' is actually terrifying.
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 2 года назад
@@ariadnefrolich7243 - Q forced the encounter with the Borg and as a result the federation made preparations. Yes Enterprise crew died - but how many more people would have died had the Borg just shown up one day without warning?
@daviddrake5991
@daviddrake5991 2 года назад
Number 4 goes to the fact the movie was just bad. It could have been worst. So bad that all the actors almost quit.
@jamesbizs
@jamesbizs 2 года назад
@@JohnnyWednesday ok. How about a warning, that also didn’t speed up the Borg coming for the federation? Kinda pointless to give an early warning , AND also speed up the process by how many decades?
@Naptosis
@Naptosis 2 года назад
@@jamesbizs They didn't speed up the process; the Borg were already scooping up Federation and Romulan border colonies.
@solsol1624
@solsol1624 2 года назад
Re the warp limit, pretty sure at least once after Picard briefed the crew before a mission and said we have permission from starfleet to exceed warp 6. Or was that me just dreaming I'm Picard again 😊
@SportyMabamba
@SportyMabamba 2 года назад
I deffo remember that line being said once or twice, following the speed limit being introduced, and then it was quietly dropped
@Eric-ch6gq
@Eric-ch6gq 2 года назад
The Voth don't really count here because they are actively against any further contact. Janeway didn't get much choice in it.
@gwgux
@gwgux 2 года назад
There are others, like Trelane possibly being a Q or what humans supposedly evolve into in that infamous Voyager episode about Warp 10, but I'd say these 10 are probably the biggest.
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 2 года назад
There was no Episode called Threshold where they attained Warp 10 and turned into Salamanders. You Imagined it.
@jamesfrankiewicz5768
@jamesfrankiewicz5768 2 года назад
That Warp 10 episode should have ended with Paris waking up from a dream and saying, "What the hell did I eat?"
@martythemartian99
@martythemartian99 2 года назад
Great new content from TrekCulture with only one small flaw. Here's hoping you can soon afford to improve the audio so you don't sound like you are recording in the bathroom. Thank you though for the time and effort you put in to researching these topics.
@PaulStompbox
@PaulStompbox 2 года назад
I thought the Dyson Shell (Sphere) would be on here from TNG: "Relics" .
@bradkiefer1353
@bradkiefer1353 2 года назад
That's the first thing I thought about when I saw the video title.
@FatTonyCT
@FatTonyCT 2 года назад
About number 6, the damage to sub space in the Hekaran sector was explained in the Voyager episode ‘The Omega Directive’. It was not warp travel that damaged sub space, but it was actually the Omega molecule. Starfleet found about it, suppressed it and limited knowelege to Captains and admirals. That’s why it was never brought up till Voyager.
@Trent957
@Trent957 2 года назад
The Omega Molecule damage was in the Lantaru sector, not Hekaran. Plus if that was the case, Picard would have known the reason as to why subspace was so jacked up in that area.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 2 года назад
@@Trent957 I think it is more factor that they didn't know that damage spread there. They most likely didn't know that cases could be related.
@daviddrake5991
@daviddrake5991 2 года назад
@@Trent957 But they make it clear that other sectors were affected too. They said that other areas you can only travel at sub-light.
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 2 года назад
I initially thought this too, because it sounded too similar/familiar, but if I'm not mistaken, the past Omega incident Janeway mentions happened in the 23rd century. Kirk/Spock's era not Picard's.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 2 года назад
@@tetravega567 Hm? But I would still guess that incidents could be related. It isn't really a plot hole in larger picture.
@moirarinn7826
@moirarinn7826 2 года назад
I feel like the Romulan / Human connection, at least for Picard, could have been his relationship / motivation in ST: Picard.
@Axemantitan
@Axemantitan 2 года назад
Cetacean Ops and the dolphins within were mentioned by Geordi to a Ferengi in the TNG episode "The Perfect Mate." (The one with Famke Janssen.) They weren't shown, but that was the first canon reference to Cetacean Ops.
@AeronHale
@AeronHale 2 года назад
The Voth play a major role in Star Trek Online and have their lore and technology further expanded upon. So while not followed up on the TV shows they did do a fair bit with them in beta canon material. Same with the quantum slipstream drives which are standard technology on ships in STO as well.
@bukster1
@bukster1 2 года назад
I've got to wonder how a space fairing civilization could evolve on Earth however and not leave any detectable trace even by future archaeologist standards. We didn't even find a clay pot or a steam train or a fossilised car. They must have gone straight from mud huts to space travel.
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 2 года назад
@@bukster1 Or they were more environmentally minded, and didn't litter. Perhaps the asteroid hit their capital, maybe they nuked themselves, and asteroid is a human theory.
@josiaharaki7310
@josiaharaki7310 2 года назад
@@bukster1 I thought they were abducted and placed in Delta Quadrant by some other species while they were still dinosaurs?
@jonathanwright8025
@jonathanwright8025 2 года назад
There is also The Traveller - wasn't he the first visitor from another Galaxy to enter the Milkey Way? Didn't he transport the Enterprize to another Galaxy for a few minutes? Also, I think they address the "all humanoids share a common ancestor" thing in the TOS episode when Kirk becomes an American Indian.
@madlarkin8
@madlarkin8 2 года назад
I dont think they "forget" about these things... but ultimately they are explorers and have to keep exploring. Once they discover something, they make their report and collect data and send it back to scientists and academies in the federation.
@1D991
@1D991 2 года назад
And then said scientists and academics forget about them.
@mrimmortal1579
@mrimmortal1579 2 года назад
Harry Kim- “Oh crap, he’s dead, Doc!” Doctor- “Well, there’s that one thing we could do to fix it… but nah, we’ve successfully done that before. Let’s explore new options to see if something else might work.”
@jonathanwright8025
@jonathanwright8025 2 года назад
@@mrimmortal1579 Pretty much.
@tomrobertsfinn
@tomrobertsfinn 2 года назад
EDITORS NOTE: I credited Sean where in fact it was Ellie. I will make sure to plug my brain in next time.
@stephenwray4950
@stephenwray4950 2 года назад
Was going to comment that did also notice that sound quality changes at point 3.
@tomrobertsfinn
@tomrobertsfinn 2 года назад
@@stephenwray4950 yes, a few issues with sound towards the end. Tried my best to match it to the rest. Thanks for all the feedback.
@spamhonx56
@spamhonx56 2 года назад
They also found a dyson sphere, then sorta shrugged and moved on.
@fieryweasel
@fieryweasel 2 года назад
They dispatched a research vessel to study it.
@thomascampbell789
@thomascampbell789 2 года назад
Now I LOVE this channel, but THIS vid is FANTASTIC!!! Definitely things to think about!
@safebox36
@safebox36 2 года назад
Voyager did try to explain away the warp thing as the reasoning why it has moving nacelles.
@taylortay7554
@taylortay7554 2 года назад
Yeah I always hated the “warp damages space” story arc. They do reference being approved for exceeding warp 5 restrictions in at least one episode after, but then it’s completely abandoned. It was clearly a clunky analogy for climate change that they realized would unnecessarily hamper the series if it was adhered to.
@chbu7081
@chbu7081 2 года назад
The Voth discovery was mentioned as a in a later Voyager episode.
@GenuineMattyC
@GenuineMattyC 2 года назад
Great job, Ellie! Welcome to the channel. Hope to see many more videos presented by you 🙂🖖
@rodgerp.639
@rodgerp.639 2 года назад
Ellie is fabulous!!!
@FrankClark
@FrankClark 2 года назад
I watched this, and then later when I was watching ST:TNG, I was delighted to hear Geordi ask some Ferengi if they wanted to go see the dolphins LOL (S5E21)!
@jamesleigh7026
@jamesleigh7026 2 года назад
Warp speed on its own doesn't damage sub-space it is higher warp frequency's coupled with certain ship designs. Basically if the ship design has a sleek profile the warp bubble won't affect subspace.
@topogigio7031
@topogigio7031 2 года назад
Yea she just didn't watch the show or bother to research
@kurtreber9813
@kurtreber9813 2 года назад
So you can't make a sleek warp bubble, apparently. Or maybe thats what improvements were made: sleeker warp bubbles
@droomonsta
@droomonsta 2 года назад
Pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere that Saurians were also from Earth originally but got moved by another race (I guess Preservers?) before the asteroid hit.
@crabobserver
@crabobserver 2 года назад
3:30 As data said to isac Newton. "that is a myth" Q was just trolling her
@o-mangaming5042
@o-mangaming5042 2 года назад
Eh, it's a bit more than trolling. That Isaac Newton stuff was being used as evidence in a trial, wasn't it?
@Blendercage
@Blendercage 2 года назад
I don’t think starfleet would embrace immortality. There could be a Prime Directive argument in there.
@countsdooku
@countsdooku 2 года назад
When was it established that the Q can read minds? They are highly intelligent and very intuitive, but I don't remember them as having telepathic abilities.
@Crabbok
@Crabbok 2 года назад
Dyson Sphere - the most amazing discovery but then ignored
@jonmyers8046
@jonmyers8046 2 года назад
The entity in ST V was believed to be a Cytherian that was imprisoned on a planet.
@1978rharris
@1978rharris 2 года назад
Uh….nope
@charlesjohnson7458
@charlesjohnson7458 2 года назад
@@1978rharris I don't remember if he was Cytherian but Q showed Picard the battle. I can't remember the book it was in. I do remember a huge asteroid being thrown and a fold in space/time was opened. Picard noticed in the fold that the planet the asteroid was heading towards looked really familiar (as it was earth) and Q says, "Bye-Bye dinosaurs."
@jonmyers8046
@jonmyers8046 2 года назад
@@charlesjohnson7458 Ha! That's such a Q thing for him to say lol
@ManabiLT
@ManabiLT 2 года назад
@@charlesjohnson7458 It's in the Q Continuum series, so either _Q-Space, Q-Zone_ or _Q-Strike._ But novels aren't canon unless what happens in them is mentioned or appears on-screen at some point, which hasn't happened for that.
@varimkadas6068
@varimkadas6068 2 года назад
... While we are at it, what ever happened to The Traveler?!
@topogigio7031
@topogigio7031 2 года назад
Presumably continued to work alongside the Q, though your point is far more interesting than anything Ellie found
@robertanderson5092
@robertanderson5092 2 года назад
Didn't Gary Stu learn the warp trick from the Traveller? He could have rescued Voyage in a jiffy!
@Torus202
@Torus202 2 года назад
He's probably still out there traveling.
@hogfry
@hogfry 2 года назад
Voyager was DESIGNED to minimize damage to subspace. Every ship built after her had warp tech that minimized subspace damage. And other older ships were retrofitted with the safer warp technologies as they were designed.
@owenshebbeare2999
@owenshebbeare2999 2 года назад
Er, right, where did you hear that?
@iriswaldenburger2315
@iriswaldenburger2315 2 года назад
@@owenshebbeare2999 it IS canon in the shows and the books and novels
@L1z43vr
@L1z43vr 2 года назад
Now, for the Borg Nanoprobes argument and the Quantum Slipstream Drive argument 1. The Nanoprobes could possibly try to re-assimilate Seven back into the collective, so it would be too risky to try. 2. We saw Voyager using the Quantum Slip Drive once and it ended BADLY for them.
@BigJim5754
@BigJim5754 2 года назад
The actress who played the Creater from the chase is same as the founder female from deep space nine.
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 2 года назад
The Voth matriarch actress plays a Talosian in Discovery.
@williamcoughlin3666
@williamcoughlin3666 2 года назад
The aliens that the singing whales were in contact with might have been the Xindi Aquatics.
@firstcynic92
@firstcynic92 2 года назад
You forgot finding out that humans will evolve into 2 legged amphibians that are no longer sapient and can reproduce amazingly fast.
@JamieAllen1977
@JamieAllen1977 2 года назад
that's just one possible evolutionary state; remember wesley became q-like and "Enterprise" had regressed humans living underground.
@kaveharzie4967
@kaveharzie4967 Год назад
6.) The Federation established a Warp Speed Limit, but then they also developed more 'environmentally-friendly' warp drives. That's why the M/ARAs of the Defiant, Ent-E, and Voyager are different than the Ent-D's, and it's the explanation for Voyager's variable geometry nacelles.
@JohnCastleSmokeless
@JohnCastleSmokeless 2 года назад
What Star Trek would have benefited from most would have been a hybrid between episodic and serialized styles, using an "evolving" writers' bible.
@mantilauber1
@mantilauber1 2 года назад
While I like Sean, I'm hoping we see Elly a lot more often.
@StockportJambo
@StockportJambo 2 года назад
I agree. Clear, articulate, intelligent, and significantly less hairy.
@Lofi_Ethan
@Lofi_Ethan 2 года назад
I just want to know more about the Dyson Sphere! TNG introduces a long lost Dyson sphere which has such large implications. A race that could make that would probably be the most advanced species ever, and as far as I know, we learn nothing more about the sphere and its creators ever again. It's the coolest concept ever. give me more spheres :(
@Thurgosh_OG
@Thurgosh_OG 2 года назад
Didn't they say that the DS creator had either died from radiation from their star or had left long ago as it seemed abandoned.
@travissmith2848
@travissmith2848 2 года назад
Even if the creators are gone the structure seems stable and with that much interior surface area must have some remains that can be learned from.
@TwilightMysts
@TwilightMysts 2 года назад
@@travissmith2848 In that episode the star was unstable and nearly destroyed the Enterprise D when it was trapped inside the sphere for just a few hours. While the Sphere itself is probably still around, the inner surface is probably pure ash.
@BeyondDaX
@BeyondDaX 2 года назад
Most advanced? I would have suspected the Iconians would be the most advanced
@juzoli
@juzoli 2 года назад
Exactly!!! Building that would require more technology and resources which the Federation, Borg, Dominion and the others have together in 1000 years. Or 100 times more. It would be the biggest discovery ever, even by ST standards. And it is there to study, free access to the Federation. They can claim the whole thing. And it is forgotten…
@berner
@berner 2 года назад
Thought you would have mentioned the Cytherians and that amazingly cool hologram tech that lets you create whatever you want based on your thoughts from that wonderful episode with the line "I said shut up! As in close your mouth and stop talking".
@aeonjoey3d
@aeonjoey3d 2 года назад
Great job Ellie!! Glad to have you aboard! Love the jokey jokes and well placed snark 😂 🖖
@WarpigGaming.
@WarpigGaming. 2 года назад
What about some fallout from tng season 1s conspiracy ???? Or more on those aliens
@Peaceforall20111
@Peaceforall20111 2 года назад
I agree that nano probes should have been used more but wondering if it deemed to dangerous to try
@StarFleet_Tech1701
@StarFleet_Tech1701 2 года назад
Yes, StarFleet is not too keen on using Borg technology. They remember Wolf 359.
@Peaceforall20111
@Peaceforall20111 2 года назад
@@StarFleet_Tech1701 exactly
@notdavidbender
@notdavidbender 2 года назад
You were a wonderful host and this was a great episode!
@dansmif
@dansmif 2 года назад
What about travelling to a distant galaxy and meeting the advanced Cytherians (the floating head people!). Did they not bother to keep in touch? Surely they would have been a handy ally to at least contact for some advice with how to deal with the Borg for example!
@keyoguitar
@keyoguitar 2 года назад
I've always found it curious that even though Janeway helped Q out on several occasions she never thought to ask him to get them home.
@andreb.1352
@andreb.1352 2 года назад
would be cheating
@counterfeitsaint7479
@counterfeitsaint7479 2 года назад
Worse than that, Q offered to send her home in thanks and she's like "Nah, that's cheating. We're gonna do it the *right* way." Not Pictured: The right way apparently is rewriting history and bringing future tech back. Gotta stick to those principals.
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 2 года назад
@@counterfeitsaint7479 - That's not the reason she said no - he was trying to use it as a bargaining tool in order to get his hands on Q the suicidal - asking a starfleet officer to sacrifice somebody for their personal benefit isn't asking at all.
@francessimmonds5784
@francessimmonds5784 2 года назад
@@counterfeitsaint7479 janeway contradicts herself. In the episode where Qs son is sent to Voyager and in gratitude Q sends them a few light years home and she asks why not send them all the way, he doesn’t, but I can’t remember the reason he gives.
@Gunnar001
@Gunnar001 2 года назад
@@francessimmonds5784 Janeway is a psychopath that constantly contradicts herself.
@davidgraham-parker
@davidgraham-parker 2 года назад
Star Trek writers saying that all humanoid life came from one species, that we are all kindred-spirits - that's great writing, that humans really should look deeply into. If they did, racism and bigotry would be called out as being pointless. We are all family.
@robertstallard7836
@robertstallard7836 2 года назад
Families still fight amongst themselves.
@ContemporaryCompendium
@ContemporaryCompendium 2 года назад
We all know we're one race. That doesn't stop anyone from being a racist or bigoted, unfortunately.
@girlgarde
@girlgarde 2 года назад
The various Humanoid races in Star Trek always find reasons to hate and fight each other sadly.
@dragon22214
@dragon22214 2 года назад
@@ContemporaryCompendium it's also more complicated then that
@ivankrylov6270
@ivankrylov6270 2 года назад
The warps tech not changing is not true The excelsior class had transwarp that could go beyond TOS warp 10, and in TNG warp 10 was the absolute speed
@dboymax1
@dboymax1 2 года назад
Yes but that Warp scale in the TOS and TOS movies was changed/revamped by TNG time so TOS Warp 10 is NOT Warp 10 by TNG time. Warp 10 is infinite speed in TNG time...
@ivankrylov6270
@ivankrylov6270 2 года назад
@@dboymax1 logically from the excelsior class technology requiring the warp scale to be redefined from a linear to asymptotic scale
@ericpode6095
@ericpode6095 2 года назад
There was a TNG episode where a a "future" Riker orders warp 13 (the episode where there's an anomaly across several time zones & Picard flips backwards & forwards between them).
@Thurgosh_OG
@Thurgosh_OG 2 года назад
@@ericpode6095 'All Good Things' An actual good ending for a Trek series.
@travissmith2848
@travissmith2848 2 года назад
Can we also point out that the internal combustion engine in use today uses the same basic design principles as 100+ years ago and that is a tweak to the piston based steam engine from 200+ years ago?
@lennyg47
@lennyg47 2 года назад
Thank you for this itemized list. Excellent! :)
@selvahechicera4292
@selvahechicera4292 2 года назад
I notice the progenitors, or whatever they were called, look an awful lot like the founders. I mean a LOT like them. Just an observation. And, yes. The Founders can look like anything they want. BUT. They seem to always default to this look. I don't think the writers were thinking about some deep trickery here, likely by the founders. But, wow. They could sure do something with this if they wanted to drive the fans nuts today.
@topogigio7031
@topogigio7031 2 года назад
You mean like they did...
@selvahechicera4292
@selvahechicera4292 2 года назад
@@topogigio7031 When? What did I miss?
@Thurgosh_OG
@Thurgosh_OG 2 года назад
@@selvahechicera4292 Same Actress for both parts.
@LordDarthHarry
@LordDarthHarry 2 года назад
To be fair about Slipstream, it requires a rare material to function. I think Book mentioned in Discovery Season 3 that practically nobody has that.
@heartoffire5902
@heartoffire5902 2 года назад
I imagine they also didn't really try very hard to find a way to synthesize the material or find other ways around it - considering transwarp and spatial trajectors are more accessible and easier to replicate. The Borg assimilated the species that invented slipstream and didn't bother to use the technology because they already had something more efficient.
@jamesbizs
@jamesbizs 2 года назад
I’m sorry, since when do we cere about what they say in discovery?
@topogigio7031
@topogigio7031 2 года назад
Discovery isn't canon. It's literally not canon at all.
@LordDarthHarry
@LordDarthHarry 2 года назад
@@jamesbizs Since it doesn't conflict with what was said before, explains why every federation ship isn't rocking a slipstream drive the material he mentioned was used by Voyager to build it's prototype and we aren't manbabies
@LordDarthHarry
@LordDarthHarry 2 года назад
@@topogigio7031 I don't think you know what the word "literarily" means.
@dr.charlesedwardflorendobr3952
The problem with the damage of space tims fabric due to high warp speeds was supposedly fixed by modifying the warp nacelles.
@525Lines
@525Lines 2 года назад
I like to think the Cetacean ops are for the Xindi aquatic, who are now involved with the Federation and maybe even camping out in Earth's oceans.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 2 года назад
I think the same thing
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 2 года назад
Cetaceans are specifically whales, dolphins etc - it's an order - not a general description for aquatic life. Aquatic Xindi are not Cetacean - they're Xindi.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 2 года назад
@@JohnnyWednesday Yes, but the tanks were build for Delphinus. Though it would make sense that various aquatic species would work there.
@TheMajorActual
@TheMajorActual 2 года назад
My personal favorite not on this list is the _Graviton Catapult,_ from ST:V/S6E9, _The Voyager Conspiracy_ -- THAT's some serious tech that no one apparently bothered with.....
@maxstr
@maxstr 2 года назад
What about the countless ways they've figured out how to detect cloaked ships, and never use those methods again.
@MikeB-nn4nh
@MikeB-nn4nh 2 года назад
They conveniently adjust the cloaking tech so now it's harder to detect again
@davidh5645
@davidh5645 2 года назад
It was not T'Pol's ancestor, it was T'Pol herself who gave the Velcro to humans. It was a time travel episode.
@seraphimvalkyrin4543
@seraphimvalkyrin4543 2 года назад
I'm surprised the Dyson sphere isn't on this list.
@ThePirateburke86
@ThePirateburke86 2 года назад
Why they never looked into Hyperdrive engines is beyond me. Stargate ships are so much faster than anything Star Trek has
@FVanth
@FVanth 2 года назад
Trademark and Copywrite laws? 😉😅
@Thurgosh_OG
@Thurgosh_OG 2 года назад
Different 'in universe' physics. Trek has Subspace and SW has Hyperspace, with it's mapped lanes for safe travel.
@iriswaldenburger2315
@iriswaldenburger2315 2 года назад
Hyperspace and sub space are the SAME thing… There is an episode in SGA “McKay and Mrs. Miller” where Genie asks Carter “so, subspace is real?” And carter just says “you’re flying in it”
@DocWolph
@DocWolph 2 года назад
Life extension technology in Star Trek is cursory at best compared to the most advanced research today. You would think Humans living to a healthy and spry 150+ would be the new middle aged by the 23rd century, forget 24th. Bones was pushing 140 in "Encounter at Farpoint". ...Deforst Kelly, at rest. His labors done.
@malloryjones5393
@malloryjones5393 3 месяца назад
In Starfleet’s defense. The one Q they had the most contact with was often so obnoxious most crews didn’t want him around. Making him more relatable really saved the character imo.
@RexSimpson
@RexSimpson 2 года назад
yeah....if the voyage home wale probe dosnt pop up in lower decks or prodigy i am goingg to be hugly disappointed
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 2 года назад
I personally believe it was actually Machine Race probe.
@RexSimpson
@RexSimpson 2 года назад
@@TheRezro I would be ok with that....I just want afew answers hahahahaha
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 2 года назад
Agree. There is clearly a great untold story there.
@Glitch_Online
@Glitch_Online 2 года назад
That bubble that surrounds the galaxy.
@topogigio7031
@topogigio7031 2 года назад
lmao you mean like the real life one? Read a book.
@charlesjohnson7458
@charlesjohnson7458 2 года назад
The being in ST V fought against several Q, lost, and was imprisoned.
@ManabiLT
@ManabiLT 2 года назад
Yeah, but that's from a novel and not considered canon until it's mentioned/appears on-screen. It's the same for all the novels & comics.
@angrytvrobot6130
@angrytvrobot6130 2 года назад
Nice thumbnail... Litearlly hahaha.
@PaintedSavages
@PaintedSavages 2 года назад
It's SO bad, they gotta fix that. (But I did hear it in Sean's voice XD)
@redrave404
@redrave404 2 года назад
There's the Voyager episode "Threshold," where we find out evolution is predetermined, and humanity's ultimate fate is a nonsapient salamander.
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