A moment of silence for that one Steamrunner-class ship that made it through the whole battle, only to be destroyed when caught in the cube's explosion.
I always found that part to be so pathetically sad 🤣 I still hold out hope that it only APPEARED to blow up in the Cube’s explosion wake and managed to fly off to safety.
They should have made a series of five movies for the next generation crew. Then they should have done a one off movie for deep space nine and a one off of the Voyager crew to grow the Star trek brand more.
I admit that technology has improved since 1996, but they weren't exactly using hand-cranked cameras and paintbrushes back then! I think they even had computers and digital watches..............
@@cyclopstb DS9 and Voyager were not primarily built for war, where as the Enterprise E was built specifically to fight the Borg . The uniforms in First Contact reflect a time when Starfleet went all out in their fight against the Borg so it has a more military look.
@@doofkos DS9 production team thought it made no sense for their hero starship to simply cease to exist between episodes with little ceremony. At least when it was destroyed, it contributed to the storyline.
The Defiant's helmsman only has a few lines but he has the best one. 'Another starship coming in. It's the Enterprise!' That line always gives me goosebumps.
He's the Captain of the Federation Flagship, and protocol is that commanders of ships are seniority ranked based on their ship tactical capabilities (quoting Janeway from USS Voyager, talking to the Captain of USS Equinox). Technically, Picard as Captain of the Federation Flagship outranks all other captains in Starfleet and the Enterprise would normally be a designated command ship, to all other ships, in any sector they are in. Picard is only outranked by Admirals, technically.
absolutely... although I always wondered how they managed to beam the Defiant's crew to the Enterprise... I can't imagine they lowered their shields for that, but I don't know if they were able to beam through raised shields either
I can't say how they did it...but if they did drop the shields momentarily it would have definitely been worth the risk to get Commander Worf back on the Enterprise :)
@@BadApe351 or maybe they found a way to drop only segments of the shields... keeping the dorsals up while lowering (part of) the ventrals, beaming through there?
And to think now, 2024 you see a Star Trek battle in Discovery or Picard and it’s looks so fake and boring that they can’t emulate what happened back then. It’s worrying how much regression there has been because the craft of making things real has been overtaken by cheap laziness
@@NorthWlf I agree that battle was decent, but watch it again, it looks more like a computer game with computer game graphics. And the Enterprise D manoeuvring like the Millennium Falcon inside the Cube again was just too unrealistic to be taken seriously. The galaxy class was meant to be a capital ship heavy exploration cruiser, but the way it moved was like the defiant in first contact, moving side to side dodging the tractor beams like small and nimble fighter, not a ship that’s nearly 650m long. The only time Star Trek really got it right with ship CGI and making it look even better than the model work was with Voyager & DS9. Those CGI scenes are miles better than current CGI of Discovery or SNW. Maybe the bigger the effects budget the more opportunity there is to make it worse, and the lesser the budget the more you had to really refine what you did blending model work with CGI touch ups.
1996 could be considered as Star Treks golden age. TNG just ended. DS9 on full speed. Voy just been launched and finally this masterpiece made it to the theaters.
1000% agreed. I feel like we might be on the cusp of Star Trek's "silver age" with Strange New Worlds, which is FINALLY good Trek after decades of mediocre stuff.
@@MagnumoftheMountains; no, it's not. Nonxense timeline and screenwriters who disrespect the other series or even are capable of mantain a cohese plot at an episode and another...
This movie has one of the best scenes of any Star Trek movie: when the Enterprise flies in front of the Defiant and you see the scale of the two ships. I remember people gasping in the audience at the movie theater when this movie came out. Truly an awesome shot.
I agree, Chris Peters! Every time I watch this movie or see this scene on RU-vid I always wait for the grand entrance of Enterprise! Damn it's a big ship!! And I always think that Worf says "He just cut me off!" SPACE RAGE!!!!! You just don't cut off a Klingon!!!!!
@@youtert the Enterprise E is 700+ Meters long. That scale difference is fairly accurate I'd say. The Defiant isn't exactly a little ship since it has multiple decks but it isnt one of the Cruisers you normally see either. It's great to see a War Horse like the Defiant actually being in need of assistance though. Iirc there was a part in DS9 where the Defiant was used as a threat to destroy an entire planet. If THAT needs help you know the Borg aren't to be trifled with.
I love how the Defiant is barely hanging together but is still able to fight more effectively than some of the larger ships. Sisko definitely knew what he was doing when he helped design it.
It's finally doing what it was designed to do, and if anyone, besides Picard, had motivation to kick some Borg behind, it's Sisko (which is probably why Starfleet had Worf on the Defiant and not him).
Ships in its class along with the Akira class ships were purposely designed to fight the Borg. During that time the Ablative armour on the Defiant was ridiculously strong.
@@Bitterman5868 yep, the old stuff was just built better - before Starfleet outsourced everything to China and Taiwan and was made to be disposable. Donald Trump tried you stop that but he was banned from holographic social media.
Jonathan Frakes did a superb job with this film. Great storyline, pace, action, special effects acting and humour. Defo up there with Wrath Of Khan and The Undiscovered Country.
Worf's willingness to go kamikaze on the Borg is a good bit of writing. Naturally it's in Worf's character to do this, but also, for anyone who hasn't seen any TNG, it helps to set up a contrast with the moment later in the film when Picard calls him a coward. The audience has evidence that this can't be the case and that it's Picard's PTSD talking.
Even if you only saw DS9 and his interactions with the jem Hadar XD suicidal suckers infected his warrior spirit no he's ready to send it all for the thrill.
Saw this opening night. Still remember how the entire audience howled at Worf's affronted reaction to Riker's comment about the Defiant. "Little?!" Just a great movie and so glad I got to share it with a packed theater.
@@christopherg2347 no torpedoes do not possess a warp core. The way it was used in warp was that it sort of steals a tiny part of the ships warp bubble. It can maintain a warp field but not generate it.
Don't you just love the scene on the Defiant when the helmsman tells Worf that the Enterprise has entered the battle? The look on Worf's face says it all: "Now we're really going to kick some Borg ass!"
I always read that looks as a simultaneous: "Argh, the big bad E is going to come steal my thunder." Coupled with: "Damn, I'm glad the big bad E is going to come steal my thunder." If you know what I mean.
@@ronn-ammon8975 Yeah, but the movie would have ended right then & there, so what's the fun in that? Having the Enterprise crew fight back against the Borg made for a much more interesting story line. Anyway, it's science fiction. No need to over-analyze it.
My heart skips a beat, my throat tightens a little, and a tear comes to my eye when Commander Worf hears: “Sir, there’s another star ship coming in... IT’S THE ENTERPRISE!”
That was good, except realistically wouldn’t Sisko have been commanding the Defiant for a battle like that? He could then have beamed Worf ( who’d have been aboard) to the Enterprise, and taken the Defiant back to DS9.
@@alexanderjones9572 It could be seen as too big a risk for a commander of a static emplacement like DS9 to go, and it would fall to their first officer/tactical officer or someone who volunteered to lead what might been seen as a suicide diversion (which would be in character for Worf). Most of the ships there seemed prepared to die so I interpret Worf being in command as a gesture that this was a fight to the death. Obviously Picard and plenty of other important Starfleet officers were there in danger but it's probably more appropriate as a Captain. Plus the emphasis on many of the smaller class ships being destroyed so easily paints the desperation of the group who was able to assemble to try and save Earth.
LouieTactical I was a little boy and remember watching it. Then my folks took me to Chuck E Cheese. Now every Friday they watch Picard with me at my place
Dan Dixon the crew making Enterprise apparently HATED the premise of the episode and they still made it work. Granted they made literal time travelling space Nazis work
Nice tidbit: Just before you hear the Borg hail, you can hear someone ordering the Bozeman to fall back. That's Kelsey Grammer as Captain Morgan Bateson, Captain of the USS Bozeman from the 23rd century who got rescued along with his ship and crew by the Enterprise D 5 years prior to these events (Cause & Effect).
But one thing was funny. In that episode- When Bozeman was in his ship and heard the name "Enterprise" and then Pickard, he should have asked that if that ship was the Enterprise then it should have been Kirk at command, as in his timeline, they were contemporaries, both having the Constitution class starships. He never did.. mystery to this day. Or a plain oversight by the canon writers.
I think the Bozeman became a bit of an Easter Egg! I know there is a Millennium Falcon in the background somewhere in the battle, but I always like to think its the Bozeman at 2:17 in the top right of the frame, kicking some ass.
Pinnacle of space battle choreography - even the fact that the bridge crew of the Enterprise enters an active war zone without the main screen online (much like a submarine), thus relying on sensor data alone and that every subsystem operates as per predefined input-output procedures amazes me every time. The little “trldtldddd” chime when Riker receives the standby confirmation from the fleet is just the cherry on top :-)
This film really captures the spirit of Star Trek while maintaining a more exciting plot line, with fleshed out character motives. Amazing film. Shame Paramount took the reins away from Johnathan Frakes for Nemesis
@@Ostermond I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but unfortunately Jonathan Frakes may have [ignorantly?] joined the woke side a couple of months ago. When -star tp- was getting thrashed in reviews, Frakes tried to stand up for the show (or more specifically his friend Patrick Stewart), citing typical "toxic fans" excuses. Up until that very moment, I thought Jonathan Frakes was one of the strongest pro-Roddenberry voices behind the camera, but most regrettably that is now in question. Considering Stewart had gone full woke before the show even aired, it's possible he [understandably] informed Frakes about the situation, and Frakes was simply defending his friend and his friend's newest show. With both Amazon and Netflix having completely withdrawn from Secret Hideout's agenda, -star tp- may never get a second season _unless_ a third international distributor comes along and gets suckered. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z9HARBq2mFw.html #DoomcockWasRight
@@adamabbas1487 Well, don't forget that, when Paramount Pictures was deliberately attempting to branch off and create their own variant of _Star Trek_ movie [because Les Moonves had (foolishly) separated them from CBS in the early-2000, which in turn kicked off the alternate license mess we are still dealing with today], Jonathan Frakes had already directed the mildly-received _Clockstoppers_ (2002) as his first movie away from _Star Trek. But,_ he had also chosen to not direct _Star Trek Nemesis_ (2004) in favor of adapting _Thunderbirds_ (2004) to the big screen... which rapidly became a box office flop, and was harshly rejected by classic _Thunderbirds_ fans as well as original series co-creator Sylvia Anderson. So, by the time it came to shop for a new director to helm _2009's_ reboot, Frakes was considered damaged goods as far as directing movies, and probably wasn't even approached. In fact, to this day _Thunderbirds_ remains the last movie Frakes ever directed; it was _that_ damaging to his career. Since 2004, Frakes has directed numerous documentaries and TV episodes and still does now (three from -std,- two from -star tp- including the one he guest starred in with Marina Sirtis, and two from _The Orville_ ), but never another big-screen movie; Hollywood won't touch him for that role anymore. (In his defense, Leonard Nimoy directed a number of movies outside of _Star Trek,_ but also had just one flop in the theater that basically ended that part of his career, and he kept to directing TV episodes and documentaries afterwards.)
I remember watching this on premier weekend. The theatre was packed, and the entire room was just enthralled by these scenes! The E coming in to defend the Defiant was just a breathtaking moment.
I saw it in the theater as well. I could've sworn the Enterprise lit the cube up with a couple phaser shots as it passed in front of the Defiant. My memory must've made the scene more epic 🤣
Same here. Just seeing the Defiant in action and the nod to Voyager gave me the same feeling I got years later with the first MCU post credit scene after Ironman. It was where all us fans in the know got something out of the scene that everybody else didn't.
When you are married to a trekkie: You just took a bath, your pal leans over the tub rim: _Photonic sensors are detecting the formation of a temporary vortex ahead._
@@ryuga81 Agreed. Also, one can only imagine how much better "Nemesis" could have been if it had a director who actually gave a damn about TNG and its characters...
Man I remember in the theatre when the Defiant was bobbing and weaving the whole place was like “Holy shit the Defiant” and when Worf emerged everybody cheered.
TNG: worf gets his @$$ kicked every episode DS9: worf kicks @$$ every episode First Contact: Worf manages to somehow both get his @$$ kicked and kick @$$ at the same time
Emerged is right! He goes from barely hanging onto the arm of the chair to right into the seat in less than a second! Then he's hanging on to that chair arm for dear life as the same extra runs out the door twice behind him between shots.
Saw this opening night, came out and saw my sisters ex in the queue to go in for next showing. He and her went to see Generations and he had the Generations micro machines set I was so jealous. I felt extreme satisfaction at seeing this epic scene before him.
The different sound effects for photon torpedoes from the different ships is so awesome! Each ship feels unique and special which is one of my favorite things about Star Trek
That practical borg cube they used looks better than a lot of cgi ships in modern movies. I think hollywood should take a step back when doing their special effects in future
CGI is a lot cheaper though, which is the main reason it has almost completely erased practical effects from most movies. Thankfully there are still some movies that successfully employ both, but they're few and far between.
Well, there's tons of great examples of CGI, too. The problem is that if you're using CGI to save money, it's probably not gonna be that great, because it has to be cheap. If you look at, for example, thanos though, especially the close-up shots, that's some damn fine animation.
I just love how they write Worf back into his role here. And the banter he has with Riker. It's all in there faces. Still though it's a crying shame DS9 didn't get a movie it would of done okay I'd say.
And unlike Insurrection and Nemesis, his appearance makes perfect sense... the Defiant was built as an anti-Borg ship so it makes sense that it joins the battle (and makes for a great cameo). I'm surprised that Chief O'Brien wasn't on board though, but they might not have had much for him to do in the film other than be a member of the Defiant crew.
@@WaterCrane You know they could of always had Sisko command the Defiant here and have him be the one to reign in Picards ambitions of defeating the borg. Lily could of still had her role but without needing to be Picards moral compass. I'd of loved to of seen that. Because it made so much sense. Especially after what sisko had put aside when meeting Picard. But hey ho I like to dream. And their budget probably would of never covered it realisticly.
A DS9 movie regarding the final conflicts/battles of the Jem'hadar war would have been far better than the final episodes of the tv series I think (just my opinion tho)
honestly bubbles, I am glad it didn't. They had such huge battles on ds9, but there was a reason Voyager ran concurrently with ds9, it wasn't that good but it still is great specially compared with the bs of today
I like how they incorporated Worf into this movie. It made sense. - Worf is on DS9 at this point. - He's become captain of the Defiant and often takes it on missions. - Borg come to Earth. What does starfleet do? Send one of its best ships to fight it. - Borg attack Earth, Defiant attacks Borg. - Enterprise comes in to help. Rescues Defiant crew. - Worf comes to the bridge because he knows he can be helpful there. - Worf is welcomed by his former crew. Jonathan Frakes did a great job with this movie. I love how the script fits together.
I love the relationship between Worff and Riker. The banter, the knowing looks etc. It’s clear that they have great respect for each other. Riker has seen what Worff can do and Worff knows that Riker held his own on a Klingon warship during an exchange visit. No mean feat for a human!!
@Hooly Dooly it can fire phasers 360 degrees from any point on the top and bottom phaser rings. It's also equipped with a foreword and aft torpedo launcher.
@@mr.constitution Definitely saw this in theaters twice. I think to this day First Contact and Mad Max: Fury Road are the only movies I've seen twice in the theater.
I saw it twice in theaters in one week. First saw it with my family, then a buddy of mine wanted to go see a movie with me while our parents were at some boring get together. So he and I saw it, even though it had been less than a week since I first saw it. I also remember getting it on VHS in widescreen and watching it on my new stereo VCR.
Everything about this move was epic. The music, the acting, the effects, the story, the Ships (I love the Sovereign and Steamrunner classes). Saw this film when it came out and I have loved it since. No other ST movie beats it.
Just a random viewer : Just imagine trying to convince a team of Klingons (the Klingon Cavaliers?) those "war clubs" aren't for hitting the other team.
Listen just to the music. 1:55 Enterprise goes to warp .. a subtle bit of the Enterprise theme 1:58 The Borg Cube - lots of horns and strings .. all bold and slow and lumbering 2:25 just after the cut to the inside of Defiant .. suddenly Worf lifts him self up and and you get the Klingon Theme which has been used in various forms since the opening Klingon Vejur battle in The Motion Picture; lots of lighter horns and drums - all "huntsman" 2:49 cut to external and you see Defiant as the Enterprise theme starts and the 1701-E soars into the screen all strings and hope and wonder. Its not just the visual effects its all about the background.
@@Valen-xu2wy I find that SW tends to drown out the background music with sound effects. Yes you get the rousing horns and then perhaps some strings as the fighter squadrons move through the larger ships; but the actual jump moment is overpowered with the "whoosh" noise. Do you have a link to a "leaves hyperspace" ?
@@birdmj No. I really mean the lead up to the assault on the death star. I once saw a documentary covering that sequence. I'm a big fan of the power of violin in that scene. Id say you like Gladiator, very strong.
Still love the shot of the Akira class USS Thunderchild, Norway class USS Budapest and Saber class USS Yeager sweeping in firing their assorted weapons: Thunderchild and Yeager firing torpedos and Budapest its phaser array. That shot always gets me. Kudos to the Steamrunner class USS Appalachia as well. Poor sister ships to the Steamrunner. They were the Miranda classes of this battle.
In 2365, Captain Wil Thoms was the commanding officer of this ship. In that year, the Lexington was assigned a planetary exploration mission in Sector 028
@Energised Voyages I've always liked that part too leading up to the battle. It gave you a sense of a prideful well-prepared fleet being... humbled by the borg and sets the mood for the following scene.
@@HuubHeesakkers not really. It's the same ship as used by the rogue Borg following Lore in TNG episodes Descent Pt 1+2. Borg Type 03: 1,200m long, 1,600m wide, 600m height. Borg Cube: 3,000m long, 3,000m wide, 3,000m height A Borg fusion cube (non-canon) was much bigger as it was made of 8 cubes combined and the Hypercube (also non-canon) was even bigger still.
Imagine being the Captain or one of the crew on the USS Endeavour, the ONLY starship to survive the Battle of Wolf 359. Years later, even closer to Earth's doorstep, your ship is scrambled to face the butchers once more, memories of the 39 other starships and 11000 people flashing in your mind.
star trek shows are normally about diplomacy, exploration and peace. this opening scene from star trek, first contact shows that when it's needed. the star fleet can indeed put up a fight that is stunning, impressive and rival that of star wars! the special effects were top-notch here and still holds up to date!
about Starfleet and warships: if they have replicators that can build and install nearly anything... why not build some ships like the Scimitar? The Defiant was purpose-built and got 2 pulse-phasers and q-torp launchers... but it was tiny and there were only 2 or so of them built; would it be so difficult to build an Enterprise-E scale ship with a great many more torp-launchers and perhaps 4 times as many phaser banks? The Enterprise-E could put the Scimitar under phaser fire and deplete their entire armament of torps without making a dent... one or two salvos of ALL the Scimitar's disruptors would cripple the Enterprise, without even needing a torp. I understand the need for space exploration, discovering new worlds etc, but especially after Q-Who I'd think the newer Starfleet ships would have vastly upgraded their weaponry... and if not using new tech, at least multiplying their existing tech (more banks/bays) ; they ended up having to send hundreds of 'exploration vessels' to fight in the Dominion war! It's like putting the Pacific Princess in a game of 'Battleship' ;)
@@joeridestrijcker445 most of the ships in the battle against the Borg are Warships first exploration ships second exactly because of the dominion threat. And the reason that they don't build Scimitar class ships is because it's placing too much eggs in one basket; and that it doesn't really go well with starfleet doctorine
"It's the Enterprise" is one of my favorite lines ever. The Enterprise probably could beam through their own shields by matching frequencies or something, like how the clunker of a Bird of Prey was able to penetrate the D's shields in the previous movie.
When I joined a massive petition for the CVN-80 to be named USS Enterprise, I imagined some Navy sailor saying that exact line during another Pacific War.
@@thefenlanddefencesystem5080 dramatic expedience indeed, this fleet has supposedly been fighting the Borg since the Enterprise was in the Neutral Zone, I know Warp is fast but that is a few DAYS journey but no-one questions it (not even myself the first few times)
This remains one of the best Star Trek movies ever made, and DEFINITELY the best one done with the Next Generation crew. It is up there with Star Trek 2 and in some ways is its better.
@@thecocktailian2091 Search of Spock was a great movie. To this day Id say it is the darkest of all of em. The way Christopher Lloyd played the lead Klingon was untouchable..... Even Worf can't beat his performance.
These scenes are what the movies did well, and interestingly enough were largely captured by another series some years later (Mass Effect). Picard is at the top of his game here, and you can see everything that made him a good Captain on the show. His introspection, the respect he has for his crew and the trust they have in him, and his willingness to defy orders and lead when he feels it is necessary. This was Picard from TNG distilled, I only wish some of this had rubbed off on everything that came after.
If your referring to Picard, i can understand your pain. It's not remotely like TNG in plot or pacing, and it feels rushed in places too. And while by the end of the show I liked most of the the characters, they are also undeveloped. However it got the parts that truly matter to me perfectly right and that was everything involving Picard himself. He's an old man who put his faith in the federation, got his heart broken, and for 20 years let it make him hide from the world. He has neglected his relationships and has to face the consequences of that when he needs help. But when the time comes, he is the man that everyone needs him to be and age is no obstacle to that. He doesn't say "We should be better." but instead "We must be better." He demands virtue in everyone and he rejects self service and ego. He reminds everyone that it doesn't matter who you like or what you believe, you have intrinsic value and are worth saving. Im hoping the second season fleshes the characters/plot/universe better. but as long as Picard is Picard (the character, not the show), I am happy.
They should've destroyed it in the movie, then had a tie-in episode of DS9 where they couldn't do X because the Defiant was destroyed, then a second Defiant class ship is delivered the next week. If they can blow it up and replace it once, they can do it twice.
@@animateddepression If I remember correctly, the episode of DS9 that takes place after this mentioned how they couldn't do something because Defiant was under repair. I think they had to take a runabout or something?
Romulans- Ha! The Enterprise is leaving! Pussies! The neutral zone is our! Long live the.....wait is that the Borg? Um...helm, very quietly put us in reverse.
Of all the next Generation movies this was my favorite Jonathan Frakes directed this movie was very well done and it doesn't get enough credit for what it is now we realize how bad movies are today we truly appreciate this movie how sad is that and my favorite part of this scene is when data says sir I believe I speak for everyone here when I say to Hell our orders
This is such a beautiful scene and the movie is still one of the best sci-fi films I've ever watched. Its such a shame that the other TNG films were so hit or miss.
Fell in love with the Akira at this point. What a wonderful design. The entire modern 'Borg' fleet Federation ships have a great uniformity with a lot of function in their appearance. More so, the scenes of them harassing the cube and gliding about it's hull will never cease to impress me.
I know a LOT of people didn't like Enterprise. I thought is was solid compared to the ground up dog sh*t we have today. The Borg episode in Enterprise was an amazing example of good writing for sure.
Me too. At the moment the Borg were going to appear for the first time the tape broke and we were left into a dark theater without warning...chills indeed!
I used to go see it by myself in the theater, I loved it so much! Yes, I was a nerd prior to the advent of Spring 1997...but still some of my happiest memories.
I love the concerned and mindful look riker gives Picard after the Captain orders Lt Hawk to pursue course. Its a mix of deep worry, admiration and almost suspicion. "Is the Captain losing his nerve?"
I remember seeing this in the cinema, 2 years after the awful Generations. Best first act to any star trek movie hands down. The Borg cube nightmare, the new Enterprise an iron shadow backlit by the Pillars of Eternity, Picard's carefully contained fury at being sidelined during battle, the ominous Borg transmission along with the sounds of hundreds of officers fighting and dying, Picard's fuckit, the crew's enthusiasm, the new cube laying waste to squadrons of new Starfleet warships, Worfs fierce attitude, the Enterprise now an avenging angel delivering waves of energy and destruction at the heart of her captain's sworn enemies and former captors.. what an entrance.
I was 8 when this came out, and I had seen every trek movie to that point and next Gen was my series as my dad put it. So we made me work my butt off for a month and we drove 60 miles one way to a brand new theater. We put on our Sunday best and we had never been to a giant screen before. Always cheap little ones. It was opening day so the place was packed, I paid for my own ticket, the theater cup, and lunch after. We were both so blown away, we went back and saw it again. Other fans in the theater recognized us and they were there for the same reason. He had a bad car wreck the following year so sadly we never got that chance again. But we saw each following that. But we would always just love this one. Scared the crap out of me as a kid, but I loved it.
Do you know the movie folks were planning on having the Defiant getting totally destroyed? But the DS9 tv people objected and said if they did blow it up they would just ignore it on the show. So a compromise was made.
That little ship was designed to fight Borg. It just wasn't completed in time for Wolf 359. I often wondered why they didn't make more of them. I only know of three : Defiant, Valiant and Sao Paulo. Considering their small size, high maneuverability and massive firepower, you would think they would mass produce these for the Dominion War instead of stop gap ships like the Centaur.
@@joshuaplotkin8826 I'm guessing it took a lot of time,material and man power to build Defiant class. And that was something the Federation didn't have. Also sometimes quantity beats out quality in war. German tanks were FAR superior to the pathetic US Sherman tanks. But the US could produce and replace them far in excess then Germany could theirs. So building ships that were quicker to build and replace was better?
Absolutely brilliant movie. One of the best Star Trek’s ever made. I watched it twice over quarantine. I love Riker going up to Worf who’s taking over Tactical, “You do remember how to fire Phasers, don’t you?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fun fact. According to Galaxy maps and warp speed charts, and assuming the ships max speed was 9.95, it would have taken them 2 weeks to get from the neutral zone to earth were the Borg ship was. Set course for earth, PLOT SPEED ahead.
Not Sure about that, there are multiple Soruces for Max Warp, even some who state Warp 9.995 ( Ships of the Line ) , i dont know which is the most Canon Like, but those are Official Books. And even if thats to much, they could run the Warp Core in Emergency Mode and ehance the Warp Speed, even if they risk to burn out the Warp Core - which wouldnt be that bad in that Case since they would be stranded in Earth Orbit. Its actually kinda clever that they never officially stated the Max Warp and the Cruise Warp of the Sovereign, and since Warp gets exponentially faster, they could get away with it. Maybe they just "overclocked" the Warp Core, or its even faster than the Intrepid ( which makes Sense since the Sovereign came out after the Intrepid ). The Prometheus is also much faster than the Intrepid. I dont know. But that was always a complicated Topic :D
@dan p Another reason the Enterprise was able to get there in time might be I don't know but perhaps the cubes warp drive had been damaged while it was on course to earth so it wasn't working properly so it was using Impulse instead and as Data said It has sustained heavy damage to its outer hull I am reading fluctuations in their power grid. or maybe while it's being attacked it's unable to use the warp drive
In other licensed material, it is argued, that the battle against the cube took place throughout federation territory. And it makes sense, that they don't engage when it almost reached earth. It is said, that there were multiple lines of defense, each reinforced by the left-overs of the previous defensive positions. The federation strategy was, to act like bees, attacking a bigger animal. Do as much damage as you can and don't give the cube time to regenerate the damages. It could very well be, that the "first battle", they witnessed via long range communication, took place at the outer edges of federation space. So, the time for them to get to earth was similar to the time the Enterprise needed to get there starting at the romulan border.
Sci Fi movies are really inconsistent like that ... why would queen show in one vessel, looking at damage single cube did, dozen of them would have easily defeated star fleet. Plus if time travel is so easy then borg should have done that to begin with.
Brilliant composing! The moment when Worf steps on the bridge, the music shifts. It's a variation on the opening scene music of Sta Trek I, when the Klingons encounter V-GER.
@@Crackshotsteph The Sovereign Class was indeed the most powerful starship in the fleet at the time of First Contact. There was the Prometheus (Voyager) with its fancy tactical separation feature, but most people have determined that other than that cool feature it was not as powerful as a Sovvie.