Star Trek: Adventure "Next" 

TOS was a formative experience for me. The humanistic viewpoint inherent in that Trek was one reason I got two degrees in Philosophy and had a career as a public school teacher for 30 years. It has been a cognitive challenge to learn the modeling/animation/video editing and an aesthetic challenge to try to tell a story with just spaceships and such… But all fun… And all the time I spend doing this “keeps me out of trouble” 😁 Thanks for the interest! 😃👍🖖

Too bad Kurtzman wouldn’t understand that 🤦🏾‍♂️ trust me brother I’d take these designs over anything related to Discovery or SNW

Hello. According to the “Official Time Of Star Trek” on Infographics (link below) the Adventure could have launched in 2272, a year before TMP. It was an experimental prototype engine and possible faster than the typical TMP era engines. It would have returned in 2282, just three years before ST3. It would be reasonable that The Excelsior Class was years in the making and that they had two prototypes at the space dock. Perhaps they were essentially empty shells, just placed there as part of the “honor guard” arrival ceremony. I have no idea how official this timeline really is, but it might with just a little stretch of the imagination work. I really just wanted to depict TMP technology with the scouts, and a glimpse into the cutting edge tech with the Excelsior, contrasting it with the beaten up TOS era scout class Adventure. All fiction anyway, but some artistic license is essential in the process of creation. A large part of the fun of Trek is formulating “Trek logic” that would explain the myriad of inconsistencies present throughout the Trek universe. It’s all about the story, not the fine details. As Leonard Nimoy stated: “Canon is only important to certain people because they have to cling to their knowledge of the minutiae. Open your mind! Be a 'Star Trek' fan and open your mind and say, 'Where does Star Trek want to take me now'.” Anyway, I try to have good “Trek logic”, but not having a writing team, voice actor team, animation team, music team, video editing team, Trek canon team, etc. I am just doing the best I can myself. 😃🖖 coolinfographics.com/blog/2019/11/26/official-timeline-of-star-trek-video

@@bobfischer, I’ve been into trek since 66, when it first aired, and did my first CON in 74. So as you can see, I am old as dirt. So I am painfully aware of the passage of time. TMP was 2273, the events of 2-4 were 2285. That’s 12 years. Even if your ship delayed launch until only a year before TMP, that’s 13 years, putting your ship getting back 3 years before Excelsior’s launch, which meant it would barely be beyond the laying of the keel, not a complete empty space frame. Yes, Nimoy did make that quote. But sometimes canon IS important, because the extended timeframe is critical to the story to explain Kirk’s weariness at the beginning of TWOK. It’s his journey from that to his sense of wonder at the end, his “rebirth” as it were. The 3 movies in fact, were a rebirth of the franchise; TWOK was Kirk’s, TSFS was of the crew, and finally, VH the Enterprise herself. The passage of time showed how it affected us, both as individuals AND as the Trek Family. If you dismiss that, then you dismiss much of what makes Trek so important, the Human Journey.

Yes, the passage of time is important for both story and character development. Easy fix for Adventure: I never said the ship came back in 10 years. I said in the narration “near the end of the 10 year mission” It was sent on a 10 year mission, but it might have taken longer and probably would have. So, it might have come back after 12-15 years later and better matched your timeline. Strangely I had originally wanted to make an issue out of this, saying the 10 year mission actually lasted a year or two longer. But there is only so much narration possible. I really did not think it would matter… 🤣🖖

@@bobfischer, actually I think you should have added the old girl herself if you really wanted to welcome back the Adventure, properly. Whether it was in her waning years as but a training vessel, or with a fresh lease on life from her rebirth, somehow a pass in review should include the Enterprise (depending on timeframe). Just doesn’t seem complete without her…

@@kennethcollins7665 Good point. I just wanted my series to be Constitution free, considering the overwhelming appearances of that class vessel. I supposed the Enterprise was doing something else or the inclusion of the famous Enterprise would draw too much attention… This might be amusing: In “Next” I did narrate “10 years in their (Federation rivals) back yard”… I was going to resolve the timeline issue with an animation. The Adventure would be heading home on schedule after “Next”. A very high tech spacecraft stops them, says they have to be sent 5 years into the future to keep the timeline coherent. Some undetectable space time anomaly the Adventure passed through earlier had disrupted the timeline. Asked who they were, they just give the enigmatic answer “The Travelers”… 🤣 So, for the Adventure, it was 10 years… Even if I don’t animate it, that is what happened. 🤓😜

Thanks! It’s all good fun… I appreciate your appreciation! 😃🖖

But how fast could a ship with one nacelle go? Would such a ship really be suitable for deep space missions?

It looks like a Frying Pan. 🤣

I would generally agree, but in my scenario they need a super fast ship, (it has a prototype engine faster than a Constitution Class), one that can be equipped and launched quickly, and one that will not be noticed if it disappears. To mitigate issues with only one engine, the ship has been modified with a shuttle and a worker bee bay. This combined with new at the time replicators and manufacturing facilities in the ship, would allow them to repair the ship themselves. I actually have a scene in one episode where they repair a damaged nacelle. It’s humorous because in “canon” where two nacelles are needed to produce a warp field, if one was damaged you would be dead in the water as well… 😛 It’s all fiction anyway, but I think my “Trek logic” is sound enough for a fun little journey in the Trek universe… 😃🖖

Those came off my oldy but goody Triton Extreme… 😃 For more of my weird musical creations go here: www.thestardreamerprojecthome.com 👍🖖

Hello! According to the Technical Manual, this class of ship had a cruising speed of warp 6 and an emergency speed up to warp 8. The Adventure, with a prototype engine and some modifications, h as a cruising speed of warp 8 and an emergency speed up to warp 9.5. They needed a fast ship, one that could be modified quickly, and not be missed. Not really a war ship, but a scout. Its mission is to observe, record, survive, and report… But best to be ready, just in case… 😜👍🖖

@@bobfischer thank you. Is there a breakdown of how fast each warp level is?

@@aeriel69 According to the Technical Manual, warp is a function of speed of light cubed… Warp 1: 1x speed of light Warp 2: 8x speed of light Warp 3: 27x speed of light Etc. In extreme cases in TOS they might get to Warp 14. In TNG Warp is limited to 10 which can never be achieved. So the fastest possible is Warp 9.99. Gene Roddenberry established the maximum velocity of the starship as ".73 of one light year per hour". This would translate to a top speed of 6394.8c (approximately equivalent to TOS warp 18.56, or somewhere between warp 9.975 and 9.99 as given in the Star Trek: Voyager Technical Manual For my series I’ll stick with TOS scale… 😃🖖

@@bobfischer thank you. 🙏

Yes, extreme. Five years out, five years back… Volunteer crew, prototype fast engine, ship modifications… And an urgent need to know what is happening in that particular part of the frontier… Just a set up so I can play with a TOS era ship… 😀🖖

Thanks! The scout ships were named after four of my friends that have suffered through my crying about all the technical issues I had doing this series: Hardy, Helton, Oliver, and Bailey. The two Miranda class ships were named Steadfast and Resolution, the Excelsior class ships named Majesty and Grandeur. No research into canon, just threw out some names. There is definitely better fan animation out there, but I sacrificed better animation so I could tell a story. I believe that is in the true spirit of the original Star Trek, the special effects just a vehicle, in this case literally the scout ship, to tell a story and delivery some kind of meaningful message. Trek on! 😀🖖

If you saw the whole Adventure series, then the super weapon eventually added to the ship probably would have made that battle over in 5 seconds. The other augmented weapons and shield probably would have made it the most powerful Federation ship there. To try to keep that level of power consistent with later Trek technology, something happens in the story that makes those augments shut down and become nothing that can be learned from. Anyway, all Trek fun… 😃🖖

That design is from the 70’s Franz Joseph “Starfleet Technical Manual”… A great read, filled with all sorts of diagrams, about the TOS universe… I just added the bays for this mission. More of the series is below, and I do plan to add more to it… 😃🖖 ru-vid.com/group/PLr_Fc_lfG945T22G_7jPScVgADciCtB-C&si=P7diePufoKxHgGow

@@bobfischer My dad had a copy of that book, as well as a portfolio of blueprints of the Constitution class. I'd pore over both for hours as a kid in the 70s-80s. My two favorite ship classes were the scout and the dreadnought.

Never supposed to be a sci-fi film. It is just a story with animation. If it was a sci-fi film I would have teams of people work on it and spend large sums of money on its production so I could charge people to watch it. As it is, I do the whole thing myself and put it out for free just in case some other Trek fans might find it amusing. It is fun for me to make these videos and play in that world. To others, trash or treasure… All good. 😃🖖

I wanted to have control of the music and do it myself. I like ELP, prog rock and such, so the synth sound fits with that aesthetic. If I had a choice of listening to the philharmonic do a classical piece, or ELP I would choose the latter… That being said, when you hear the distorted lead guitar that is an actual electric guitar I’m playing… 😃 If I was doing this to make money and wanted to appeal to the common taste and had the financial resources to hire a classical orchestra, of course that would be the way to go… But I’m not… Anyway, all subjective aesthetics… 😃🖖 P.S. Here is my music project to give you an idea where I am coming from… 😃 www.thestardreamerprojecthome.com

The Scout/Destroyer Class is seen in Franz Joseph’s “Star Fleet Technical Manual” published in the 70’s. Just a fun extrapolation to fill out the Star Fleet collection of ships. For more info: memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Hermes_class

I totally can make a stable warp field with just one nacelle. I did it in my garage last week.

​@@351cleavland😂you the MAN!

I named those four TMP era Scout Class ships after close friends who listened to my constant whining about how long it took to render those animations. They are my closest friends, but sadly my friend Richard Hardy died unexpectedly about six months ago… That ship remains as a tribute to him and our friendship… 😊🖖

@@bobfischer Cool.

why not uss stan and uss laurel. better yet uss groucho, checko , harpo and gummo

@@MarkSmith-zg5hq There is precedent for naming TOS ships after people, the Hood and Potemkin being examples. Who is to say these are not famous people in the 23rd Century? But if you read the previous reply you would know those ships were named after close friends, one who recently died…

@@bobfischer Me thinks you misinterpreted my meaning. I was going with a old time comedian theme. Oliver Hardy was half of the comedy duo along with Stan Laurel known as Laurel and Hardy. Oliver Hardy (and Charlie Chaplin) wore a style of mustache that can no longer be worn in polite company.

I would generally agree, but in my scenario they need a super fast ship, (it has a prototype engine faster than a Constitution Class), one that can be equipped and launched quickly, and one that will not be noticed if it disappears. To mitigate issues with only one engine, the ship has been modified with a shuttle and a worker bee bay. This combined with new at the time replicators and manufacturing facilities in the ship, would allow them to repair the ship themselves. I actually have a scene in one episode where they repair a damaged nacelle. And as you alluded to, an all volunteer crew probably with few ties at home… It’s all fiction anyway, but I think my “Trek logic” is sound enough for a fun little journey in the Trek universe… 😃🖖

The primary mission in this case is not to represent humanity, but to get a specific job done. That being said, what represents humanity is the values and choices that the crew makes. Do not judge a race on the design of their ships, but by the content of their character as seen through their values and actions. That was the main point of the whole series, as seen in the end where what saved the day was not their ship, but their past actions and the relationships they forged along the way… Whole series: ru-vid.com/group/PLr_Fc_lfG945T22G_7jPScVgADciCtB-C&si=bNIuddekk-j_w-dn And aesthetics is subjective. I think that Scout Class is beautiful, many others do as well… Just taste… 😃🖖

@@bobfischer yes i do get that but come on, we're not going out in to infinity looking like we're formidable .thats not how humanity works. when we do go we're going in style like we mean it

It’s on a scout mission, not military action. Its mission is to observe, record, survive, and report… They need something fast and low profile, being on a clandestine mission. It’s all fiction anyway, that’s just the scenario I set up for the series… 😃🖖

The ship pretty much follows original starfleet specs set in the original series and in the original manuals printed at the time as well as the turn based games that were out till the late 80’s

...really?...🙄

In my scenario they need a super fast ship, (it has a prototype engine faster than a Constitution Class), one that can be equipped and launched quickly, and one that will not be noticed if it disappears. To mitigate issues with only one engine, the ship has been modified with a shuttle and a worker bee bay. This combined with new at the time replicators and manufacturing facilities in the ship, would allow them to repair the ship themselves. I actually have a scene in one episode where they repair a damaged nacelle. It’s all fiction anyway, but I think my “Trek logic” is sound enough for a fun little journey in the Trek universe… 😃🖖

Cool... Have you considered AI to help write scripts and generate characters? Advancing your concept toward a more complete entertainment experience? You have the necessary story skills.

Hello! In the years doing the animations and thinking about the stories, I have many of the central characters on the Adventure fleshed out complete with character development. I also have many more stories I’d like to animate. I wish I had a license from Paramount and a team of highly paid professional to make this into a real series. But as it is, it is just me putting these little stories together. Basic narrated videos is about as far as I can go. Concerning AI, it is very useful for many applications, but I prefer the hands on creative approach for what I am doing. That approach is definitely a limiting factor on the quantity I can produce. But it is the doing of it where my aesthetic needs are met. Anyway, thanks for the interest… 😃👍🖖

Thank you for sharing your interest with me. Your creative effort captured my attention and I hope you'll continue producing them. Consider experimenting with character dialogue exchanges in your videos. I use the AI voices in my scripts reads that are built into Final Draft software. Some the AI voices have accents and are quite interesting. They help me hear hoe my stories sound out loud. Also, you don't need anyone's permission if you strike out and create your own original story line. Good luck, Bob.

Hello. If you mean the names and numbers on the top of the saucer for the first four Scout Class ships, I checked and they are crystal clear when I stream them from RU-vid. But sometimes because of connectivity issues if the resolution goes down, then those do get blurred. Regarding your second point, I would generally agree, but in my scenario they need a super fast ship, one that can be equipped and launched quickly, and one that will not be noticed if it disappears. To mitigate issues with only one engine, the ship has been modified with a shuttle and a worker bee bay. This combined with new at the time replicators and manufacturing facilities in the ship, would allow them to repair the ship themselves. I actually have a scene in one episode where they repair a damaged nacelle. It’s all fiction anyway, but I think my “Trek logic” is sound enough for a fun little journey in the Trek universe… 😃🖖

@@bobfischer Sorry for being so picky Thank You ;

One nacelle will do it, albeit max speed is Warp 4.

This design is from Franz Joseph’s Star Fleet Technical Manual published in the 70’s. The two nacelle rule is debatable… Here I am just going with it… 😃🖖

Hello. Yes, here is a breakdown of the time line: According to the “Official Time Of Star Trek” on Infographics the Adventure could have launched in 2272, a year before TMP. It was an experimental prototype engine and possible faster than the typical TMP era engines. It would have returned in 2282, just three years before ST3. It would be reasonable that The Excelsior Class was years in the making and that they had two prototypes at the space dock. Perhaps they were essentially empty shells, just placed there as part of the “honor guard” arrival ceremony. I have no idea how official this timeline really is, but it might with just a little stretch of the imagination work.