Star Trek: Inside the USS Enterprise NCC-1701 

The main engineering room was actually at the base of the pylons of the warp engine area. That reactor seen behind the fence is at the base of the pylons. ( secondary hull) what he shown was the impulse engine room. ( Located at the rear of the primary hull.)

Firstly Yes that is correct. Main engineering covering 2 decks was positioned behind the defector disk in the main secondary hull. Secondly the top speed of this model starship was not warp 10. Warp 10 is not possible. USS Voyager top speed was only warp 9.925 which was a must newer ship than this model

A great rendering of my favourite ship. Keep them coming please.

@@hendrikventer6346 the Warp Scale was changed in TNG. So warp 10 in TOS would be close to Warp 7 or 8 in the new TNG scale. Also I think Voyager had a maximum speed on 9.975 and at the time was the fastest Federation design.

Wasn't the Computer core room massive? it reach from deck below the main bridge all the way down near the Ventral Sensor dorm, let alone the hallway have to curve around it

OMG I am surprised. I tried to watch "lost in space" but the only message in that show was that human beings were traitors and would endanger space travel at every opportunity ... The new "Lost in Space" would be better titled "Trapped in space" as the first 10 episodes contain at least 15 traps that ensnare the lost-in-space-cadets who waste most of their lives escaping from traps ...

The were the good Ole days

Same.

You have to consider that now Star Trek is Star Woke. The franchise is dead, Jim

@@llanamejia It's not really dead... so long as we remember it.

@ger du The Romulans, Klingons, Cardassians, Borg, Dominion, and Planet Killing Doomsday Machines throughout all the galaxy appreciate your pacifism and ask that you continue to merely tour the galaxy.

"Tomorrow is Yesterday" Kirk says they are military.

lol...maybe some people who developing starships of the 24th century would laugh previous designs are old school styles.

The neck is roughly the width of a turbolift. Your story can be summed up in 1 sentence: the designers never took the actual neck width into account and just made it look sleak. 😋 Structural integrity fields would be used to compensate for extreme hull stress, not compensating a self-breaking neck.

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@@Halfscreen What is the animation at the very end, of constructions of NCC-1701-A? Is that something you did or something we can watch somewhere else?

@@dgillies5420 That was in one of the Star Trek movies, Star Trek Into Darkness (2013).

This cutaway is massively innacurate and the location and Labelling of sections and functions is completely wrong.

@@BiggestDawgEver It was based on a fan-made schematic, but I'm hoping to fix some of the problems with an updated version down the road.

Same here.

Well done from one of the schematics. They're a few that conflict here and there. Visually on episodes, Main Engineering (warp core feeds behind the cage Scotty often clings to) would indicate that somewhere around the shuttle deck front, as that's where the struts enter the secondary hull. There is "auxillary control" but sometimes that is a different room (Space Seed, Court Marshal, Doomsday) or the main engineering engine room... Depending on which set looked better for the composition of the shooting scene of "auxillary control" . Realities of directing a TV show, assumed to be shown twice and forgotten. A discussion of Impulse Drive, the control room and location may help viewers. Also if impulse is FTL equivalent or not. Many scripts fail if impulse is not FTL capable.

@@STho205 There are some discrepancies, but that's what happens when you have 50 years of fans adding their own ideas to the concept. Nothing wrong with that. I like some ideas some people have come up with over the years.

@@davidkaminski615 it's fine. The show started out as "Forbidden Planet the Next Generation" with set dressing and situations from "Rocky Jones Space Ranger". The original set and costume designer had even worked on that kids show a decade earlier. Check it out. You'll see some familiar plots as well.

No problem. Thanks for watching.

Too bad it's completely inaccurate.

Massively innacurate.

I agree

@@Halfscreen Great job but those are the wrong shuttles. Minor not important just letting you know.

Thank you kindly Brian!

you know those are probably worth a pretty penny today, especially if still in good condition

Do share via RU-vid

I also have a set

@@fubarmodelyard1392 Share please

I remember them, and my star fleet technical manual. Wish I knew where they were now.

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That's what I've believed as well.

Me too.

Agreed there are two. Kirk piloted the heavily damaged Constellation from "Impulse Engineering" in The Doomsday Machine. They wanted to lower the overhead in Impulse to distinguish between the two, but time and budget didn't permit, so they just removed the "Dilithium Converter" assembly. It is probably a good deal further forward than Franz Josef depicts it, so the thicker hull cross-section can accommodate the height, and there's room for some actual engines aft.

There would HAVE to be an impulse control or impulse engineering deck located behind the impulse engines - which are the primary sunlight propulsion method for the Enterprise. (And ONLY* method after saucer separation - then the Main Engineering controlling the matter/anti-matter engines and the warp core. There are likely smaller engineering compartments in each of the warp nacelles, as there were in the E-D, and also seen in the animated series.

He ended up using an unofficial blueprint made by fans instead of the real thing, which resulted in a number of mistakes in the video. The official blueprint is called _"Booklet of General Plans: U.S.S. Constitution Class"_ and is officially published by Paramount. The Enterprise does indeed have two different engineering rooms.

Glad you enjoyed it! More is coming. I didn't realized how popular it was until now.

No problem Mikey. I always wanted to explore other theme outside the Star Wars genre but my core theme will still be Star Wars, but I occasionally do something different. Thanks for watching!

@@Halfscreen your welcome HalfScreen….it made a nice change and it bought Star Trek Tech to those who wouldn’t have know much about it ….. Tc & more please #CaptainKirkClone

@@mikeyb4610 My animations were never meant for the hardcore fans, just for the casual viewers, which is about 95% of my viewers anyway. 😀

@@Halfscreen whatever your aim / target audience is I have to say that you should be proud of what you’ve achieved ….your a very talented & creative person which sets you way above anything else similar here on RU-vid ….. I really hope you get to use your skills and talents in a field that you both enjoy AND that showcases the quality your presentations reflect…. Your audience, those who genuinely appreciate & respect you, will continue to follow you in whatever you do within this art form …. ‘never be held back by what others may think - but push forward with what YOU have to give’ (Mikey) … #GoHalfScreen

@@mikeyb4610 I used to work in the oil and gas industry as a technically 3D animator before tackling RU-vid full-time on a full-time basis. My goal is to make enough money on YT so I don't have to get a "real" job.

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It was located in the star drive section. The blue prints, drawn by Franz Josef, showed that and the pool

Bowling was really big in the 60's

@@Zorro9129 It's much, much bigger now!

I recall it only being mentioned once, but I think FJ's placement of it near the lower cargo hold makes sense, as you need some open "flex space" to maneuver your containers, and you also need a recreation area for the largely-unseen 400 enlisted crewmen, one that's a great deal larger than the Officer's Lounge we saw in the show. Don't buy the pool though, the Navigational Deflector and Warp Engineering need that space.

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That would be the case if warp engines were reaction motors like rockets. However the theory behind warp engines is not predicated on producing a force. Warp engines are positioned where they can optimally produce a warp bubble that can fully encase the entire ship. It is the interaction of this warp bubble with space-time which allows for FTL travel. It is not pressure differences created within the engine itself like with a reaction motor which in turn push against the hull producing thrust. Now starships do have reaction motors called thrusters which are mainly used for maneuvering purposes. But the FTL warp travel is by field manipulation of the warp bubble interacting with space-time fabric while protecting that which is inside the bubble from time dilations. Additionally ships in the ST universe also produce a structure integrity field which is basically is force field running to structure bulk heads of the ship to augment it against stresses. Now if you look at the placement of the impulse engine which does operates on a reaction basis it's position in the hull is more centric to the ship's center of mass.

@@TheWallReports the warp bubble is formed by micro capacitors that can maintain a sub electron voltage at neutrino wavelength or less within each of the fusion reactors. There has to be more than one fusion reactor that can be controlled by bringing them together and pulling them apart as kind of a warp accelerator or warp drive or gear. Structural integrity during motion is achieved by centralizing the ships gravity and weight within the warp drive. The warp bubble is composed of a sub electron voltage field

@@TheWallReports in reality you need 2 to 8 independently operating or autonomous AI computers to stabilize the warp core and to activate the warp drive or to build the warp drive in the factory, the calibrations required are beyond the human ability to calculate or hold information . To achieve warp drive capabilities, AI would have to be independent of human manipulation, yet still cooperative. Europeans currently have a difficulty with not manipulating AI programming.

@@eastafrika728 Not trying to be rude but are you sure you're referencing the science behind much of the technology in ST universe? I am not sure what you mean by sub-electrons? Electrons are leptons. They are not composite subatomic particles like hadrons which means they have no subatomic constituents. Neutrinos are leptons as well and don't reacts with anything. Wave theory rules out electrons acting on anything smaller than it. As far as the fusion reactors goes there are several distributed throughout the vessel but they play no role whatsoever in powering warp drive. The fusion reactors supply power to the impulse drive and is the main power source for the ship. Whenever that plasma is ready for use an EPS tap draws plasma from the power transfer conduit and converts it to the type of energy required. Warp drive is based upon the creation and generation of exotic particles. Warp particles are one such exotic particles. They are produced through a matter & antimatter reaction occurring in the warp core. This type of reaction only take place in the warp core. Not the fusion reactors. These warp particles which are in a plasma state, warp plasma, is transferred via plasma conduits to the warp nacelles where the warp coils are. The warp coils, not micro-capacitors produces the warp field which encases the ship. If the warp coils operate anything like normal coils/inductors, a field is produced. Capacitors are mainly temporary energy storage devices and stores energy as a charge or an accumulation of charges. In addition to warp particles used for warp drive there are other exotic particles in use including gravitons for artificial gravity (AG). There is gravity plating throughout the ship. Embedded inside that plating are gravity generators which in turn produces gravitons particles for AG. An EPS tap draws power from the transfer conduits to provide the power to the gravity plating. Nadion particles are used by and the basis for the many of the directed energy weapons and forcefields; tachyons another exotic particle if memory serve me correctly is the basis for much of the subspace communication systems and on and so on. The thing to remember is all are theoretical particles meaning they don't exist or have been discovered or created yet today. Scientist have mathematical models for existence but that's about it. Electricity meaning flowing electron through a conductor is not going to get you any of this. Electricity is obsolete. As I stated above much of the power for all that technology excluding warp drive comes from plasma produced by fusion reactors which is transferred by plasma conduits. The reason for that is b/c plasma is much more versatile source of energy than electricity. If there's a need for old fashion electricity it can be easily derived from plasma with the right EPS tap.

@@TheWallReports no, I'm using real science that is in our reality.

maybe . it's unclear. that glowy tunnel thing that scotty always gets thrown against and holds on to is supposedly the impulse engine

The constitution actually maintained main engineering control in the primary hull. This graphic doesn't properly show the tall tower style warp reactor which went down the neck to the secondary hull. A secondary engineering station was also present in the secondary hull which was larger, and oversaw the transfer of warp-plasma into the warp nacelles.

Nerd.

@@stephenandersen4625 wrong, the bars within that chamber run up the nacelle struts

@@stephenandersen4625 nobody could be fully consistent on it, production-wise, but in 'Day of the Dove', we see the energy creature leave the engine room and exit the lower hull. Many deckplans make it the impulse hub, instead though.

Wow. That is a very long wait! Thanks for watching henery!

I was thinking of the same thing. On the Enterprise D, that "main engine room" which actually includes the warp core, is in secondary hull and when the core breached in ST: Generations they had to separate the saucer section to act as a "lifeboat" for everyone on board. Having that room up there just doesn't make sense. And correct me if I'm wrong, my TOS lore is worse than my TNG lore, but isn't the D the first Enterprise to have that detachable saucer section feature? Plus the way the main engine room is done here, it looks like the top half of that room is going to break from the bottom half when that saucer section does separate. And what's with that curved thing that is bisecting the warp core? Sorry but poor design on that part.

@@thundermane362 season 3 of discovery a star ship built around the same time as TOS Enterprise there is an episode where the warp core is ejected, this plus any "warp core ejection" images all show these are from the bottom of the main hull, even TNG blue prints show this as well. TNG saucer section only have impulse engines only for the very reason depleted in the movie (much the same way of the space shuttle piggy backed on a 747)

@@thundermane362 No D wasn't, ST TOS episode " The Apple" .... Kirk tells Scotty to discard the warp drive if you have to and crack out of orbit with the main section. It has been suggested for decades that Kirk was telling him to get the primary (Saucer) hull out. Enterprise A even shows a separation line that's marked in red on the interconnecting ( the neck) dorsal.

Ethan Monroe on point

@@paulwilliams5208 varied deckplans have been notoriously inconsistent about this very room, for the original 1701. See also discussion on trekbbs forums, too. "Dave of the Dove" makes it fairly explicit the engine room is in the lower hull, too.

Actually, yes! I have enjoyed alot of his videos and they keep getting better

Great suggestion!

Thanks for watching!

There is a 1701-D animation if you haven't seen it yet. Thanks for watching.

That's the plan!

Klingon D-7 battlecruiser please, they're cool looking.

Thanks for the comments Kevin.

Thank you! Cheers! Have you check out the new updated animation the TOS Enterprise?

@@Halfscreen yes that i did very nice work

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Not by a long long way is this remotely the most realistic sci fi ship. The fact that it has 'artifical gravity' decks makes it preposterous to known physics. For realistic spaceship refer to USS Discovery in Kubricks 2001 Space Odyseey or any ship in the Expanse.

But wait, I'm working a more detail version of the 1701 coming up in the following week. 😁

Incorrect. The original Enterprise had the ability to separate during an emergency using an explosive bolt system. Unlike the Ent-D, reconnection would have taken starbase facilities.

At least two episodes of the original '60s show have Kirk contemplating saucer seperation, but we never saw it on screen until 1987's The Next Generation. But yes, NCC-1701 was capable of it. The Kelvin timeline version seperates it's saucer in 'Star Trek Beyond' as well, with Kirk running down to the lower saucer and performing the operation manually after bridge control is disabled.

Lance is correct, however they did separate in TAS one time. They had planned to do this in TOS, but due to budget constraints,... they abandoned the idea until TAS.

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Exactly what I was thinking. Considering Enterprise NX01's MAX speed was Warp 5, the TOS Enterprise reached Warp 6 to 8 in VERY EXTREME situations. Even STTNG only did a max cruising speed of Warp 8-9, Warp 10 in a ship wasn't considered normal until Voyager or DS9 I am thinking or Speculating. Nevertheless, this is a decent video to watch - Nicely Done & Thanks for Sharing.

Hey, thanks!

If the creator's anything like me, he might've just used whatever he could find, that was the same general size and shape. Something that says, "This is where they park the shuttlecraft." : )

it is bristling with mistakes. people standing in turboshafts etc etc

@Sosi Tehlirian Simple. They DON'T go faster than the speed of light. They warp space so they can get places as if they were traveling faster than light. Take a piece of paper and draw two dots at opposite corners then move a pencil from one dot to the other with the paper flat and time how long it takes. Now make folds between the two dots and move the pencil at the same speed as before. The time from dot to dot will be shorter. D=R*T. R can't be > c, the speed of light but if you shorten D, the distance, then T, time is decreased.

True. I noticed that the shuttle craft were from the Next Gen era but I think you got mare right than wrong and I especially liked that you explained (and showed) how the primary hull / saucer section separates from the secondary hull.

As lovely as this rendering is, it is missing the hallways and, most importantly - the bowling alley.

Thank you! Will do! I have seen any good cross-section on the Enterprise for me to refer to on YT.

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Coming soon!

@@Halfscreen Ganna be watching out for it!

I'm going to an update to this animation down the road.

​@@Halfscreen While the Franz Joseph designs are a delight to look at, they are not canon. (And there is some conjecture that, because Reilly was drunk when he mentioned the bowling alley, he was just making it up lol.) One thing that is canon is there are *3* engine rooms mentioned in the dialog of the series, and the actual filming set was changed 3 times during the 3 seasons of the TOS. It has been argued that either a) Main Engineering was upgrade several times during the Enterprise's 5 year mission or b) the different designs represent the 3 engine rooms: Warp Drive (Main Engineering in the secondary hull), Impulse Drive (at the back of the saucer section), and a 3rd room (Axillary Power? It is only seen once in "The Alternative Factor"). Hope that helps. No matter what though, you need to add the corridors back into your renderings.

@@jptrostle3275 I'm currently wrapping up part 1 of TOS Enterprise. I'm pretty sure it's not 100% accurate, but I can pretty much say the same thing with any Sci-Fi ship. Thanks for the info, and I will keep that in mind.

Thank you very much!

I was thinking about that. If I remember correctly, Enterprise-D was capable of warp 10 on a good day. There was an advanced Enterprise from the future on a TNG episode that had three nacelles which could do warp 13.

@@nuttysquirrel8816 Yeah, they weren't consistent about it. But according to Roddenberry and Okuda, W10 is supposed to be 'infinitely fast' on the new scale.

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Thank you very much!

It depend on how many views I will get from this video if I wanted to do the re-fit variant.

Years ago, +/- 1980, there was a very detailed cut-a-way poster of the re-fit Enterprise. To scale, and a very accurate representation of the Enterprise. I had that poster and enjoyed it greatly. But through all the moves in 40 years, I lost it. I wish I had that back.

@@elhanson5426 Same. I had the poster and the jigsaw puzzle of her. The TMP refit Enterprise is my favourite of them all.

Have you seen Star Blazers AD2199,AD2202? I have the model of the United Nations Cosmo Navy Andromnea. She is 1500 feet long 100 feet wide. And 300 feet high. If she was a real ship. But she can out run the Enterprise easy.

@@elhanson5426 I have managed to get 4 of those.. I am looking for the one which has the Enterprise-D on it, to hang them side by side.

To me, the Enterprise B in _"Generations"_ is kind of like a bridge that connects the storyline from Kirk's Enterprises to Picard's.

Enterprise-B was an Excelsior Class ship and Enterprise-C was an Ambassador Class ship

Thanks. I'm hoping to have a more detail animation down the road.

All worries aside, the nacelles cannot break off due to: 1. The Structural Integrity Field which strengthens the ship to endure the stress of warp travel and maneuvers. 2. The construction materials and the technique of molecular bonding. Imagine what advances in building materials and construction techniques will be made 300 or so years from now. Oh, one last real world example. Did you know the wing tips of modern passenger planes can flex upwards to eight feet during flight while not snapping off?

That is a valid point on Star Trek Discovery and Piccard breakdown. I will have to think about it.

@@Halfscreen we're counting on you, all the best. I always wanted to see how's the current star trek ships with low silhouette look like on the inside

@@jayjay53313 Depending on how well this video, I may do more star trek theme animation.

@@Halfscreen good, looking forward to it. I prefer more futuristic realistic design

Much appreciated!

One thing I also noticed was that the animator used a vertical warp core (which wasn't invented until the TMP era) instead of the typical horizontal warp core from the TOS era.

Yes, you are right. I knew I forgot something. The schematic i used on the enterprise was rather basic.

@@Halfscreen Oh, okay. Anyway, your videos are great and keep doing what you're doing!

Thanks.

Thanks for the info! One of the schematics showed it being on the primary, while another show it was on the secondary. The audience mentioned it was on the secondary.

@@Halfscreen Yeah theres a few different schematics floating around out there, made by different folks. If you ever did the NX enterprise, which is mostly a Saucer Section, the engineering section would be where you put it in your 3d model of the 1701 though :)

Thank Richard. I'm going the a much more detail 3D model of the 1701 coming up since I wasn't using right schematic. Should be coming up in a few weeks.

Not to mention I'm pretty sure the TOS Enterprise wasn't capable of Warp 10 (TOS Scale) without aliens fiddling with the systems. Scotty squealed at Kirk every time he took her to Warp 8. [And also, if Voyager, a ship 110 years newer, used this Warp 10, they'd be home in about 10 years... 20 if they stopped to get dilithium crystals and take pictures along the way... not 75 years]

@@Doctor_Robert I don't think too much research went in to this video. The OP doesn't appear to have watched many episodes ;)

@@Doctor_Robert Agreed.

Oddly enough, its my next project.

@@Halfscreen OMG YESSS!! I can’t wait to see it I bet it’s gonna be awesome 😌

Wow. Didn't think my animation would get you to watch Star Trek. I will be working on the NCC-1701-D next.

Close; it’s “na” like “apple” - “cells”

J.S. Connolly _It's Pronounced... "NAY-CELLS" NOT "NA-SALIS"!_ *SO WHAT ?* All the great comments to this discussion and that's your best contribution?

The brain is rather complicated. 😁

That is a really cool idea.

@@starsiegeplayer thanks

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Most welcome 😊

Thank you! Cheers!

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Thanks.

Big thanks

Thank you too!

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Very welcome

Coming soon but I probably need a subject matter expert before working on the 1701-D.

@@Halfscreen That was a great review mate, well done.

@@thomasp.crenshaw185 Thanks.

Exactly. No unicorns surfing the turbo lifts on that cruiser, with only one exception - NOMAD. I believe James Doohan helped create and design the engine room sets for the original series. A simple engineering station on the bridge didn't sit too well with him. They needed an engine room with a crew making things happen, as it is and would be.

In one episode of DS9, a woman from a low-gravity planet could turn off the gravity in her room, and turned off the gravity in a shuttle to gain an advantage, so it seems to be electrical.

Artificial gravity.