If you don't care what anyone says, why bother posting? The fact is that you do care, otherwise you wouldn't be seeking validation by posting your opinion.
@@crucisnh Do you think all expressed opinions are about seeking validation lol? If you do you should reevaluate your life. Also, not sure if English is your first language but my point is that I don't care if someone criticizes this scene because I think it is so awesome. That is not seeking validation, I am asserting a viewpoint. You're weird... get out of the basement and communicate more with humans IRL.
When everything goes flat in space they’re trying to represent a fourth physical dimension where she would technically be leaving our three dimensional space. Seeing any plane in space warp at an angle outside of 3D space is what would make it look as flat as a piece of paper. Her perspective isn’t exactly right since she would be seeing inside objects depending on what plane in space she was looking at, but it’s still a very interesting representation of four dimensional space.
In the end, it all comes down to dramatic effect. They can try to be scientifically accurate - time crystals notwithstanding - but in the end they are telling a story and must represent what’s going on to an audience, that might not know all the specifics and might not understand it otherwise.
@@johnnyjacksted6528 My theory of the intentions of the effects, or that there are more than 3 dimensions? Hard to explain how gravity bends light without a 4th dimension.
@@ishkibable gravity does not bend light. light always travels a straight path and cannot be bent or redirected by any known force once it has been generated. gravity bends space and light travels along those bent space paths.
a Lens doesn’t directly bend light either; it just travels slower through the material. Gravitational time dilation could also cause that effect. (But this only explains half of the gravitational lensing. Bending space itself causes the other half)
I love this scene. This would be legit terrifying and amazing at the same time if you experienced this. I'm glad that's the direction they went with this.
I have to admit, while I was generally disappointed with how the second season turned out (evil A.I. vs our heroes in a big dumb space battle as Resolution for the intriguing existential mysteries the show seemed to promise at the beginning of the season), this scene just floored me. It’s absolutely stunning and gorgeous and perfectly represents what a Trippy disorienting feeling time travel might cause if it were real. I just wish the show had done more to keep the writing on the same level as the stunning visuals and the mostly stellar performances.
I think the change in direction mid-season was purely because the decision was made to send Discovery into the future. The second half of season 2 isnt perfect but i think the long run what appears to be a misstep is going to pay off handsomely. Setting Season 3 in the 32nd century is probably the ballsiest move in the franchises history.
GUESS WHAT THE LAST NOTE IS 1:40 . . . . . was a genre of music. (DIS: "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad", et al.) It featured musical instruments and singing performed by Kasseelian prima donnas. Such performers trained their whole life for a single performance. After she hit the last high E note, the Kasseelian prima donna typically committed suicide by plunging a dagger into her own chest. (DIS: "Brother")"
I believe this is the first person that I ever saw scream in a move or TV on their first time travel trip, and yeah that first trip have to be a terrifying one
I love how amazingly scientifically accurate this scene seems to be, as far as I understood it this is the most realistic depiction of what time travel might look like from the perspective of the traveler. She accelerates from the beginning, until she exceeds the speed of light at 01:39, at which point the evolution of the photons reverse direction. Only faster than light conditions can cause backwards in time travel, but such speeds would redshift incoming exterior light (presumably the photons surrounding Michael) and blueshift outgoing light, hence the red-blue effect around her and why the outside seems to be red from her perspective. At 01:45 she leaves our conventional 3D space, which contracts to only a 2D segment of the block universe, indicating that she is outside space and time at that moment. Since she exited that segment of the block universe, she can select another slice (the point in the past) enter through that 2D segment and decelerate until she arrives in the past. Brilliant, I love it.
Qualms Hmm, no the social commentary about how these seemingly evil ghouls called the Klingons are actually people that deserve their existence and shouldn’t be extinguished, that’s not Star Trek. Also, the idea that we shouldn’t sacrifice our principles even in the face of extinction also Isn’t Star Trek. It that the show is so progressive it shows a homosexual couple as one of the most healthy relationships that I‘m genuinely invested in even though I am straight and admittedly used to be a little homophobic, that really isn’t Star Trek.
From an SFX point of view, this effect is not "perfection". The light distortions you see are supposed to be due to the warping of space-time.. however there are lots of close shots in this sequence of the lights bouncing/shattering on the angel suit.. which kind of ruins the illusion as you realise it's just the suit being sprayed with a spark generator. It is largely a pretty sequence, though
The funny thing is Burhnam already did this in the future.so she is just repeating what her self did so that her past self can do what the future-present Burhnam did so the past-present-future burnham can reo it again.
@@ajet0452 ok, gene channeled the star trek story in the 60's, human being is very ancient my friend, it started in the lyra constellation, the great galactic war started because of these reptilian brain and masculine energy that always want war, female is more advance than male thats why you hate them, its like you hate your mother too?
The scene is not that great imo, it's a mix of 2001 and Sunshine and other great sci fi films. And why Discovery haters? People who dislike a show these days they're called haters now? Weird I thought it was just a matter of having a difference of opinion.
@MGazT Crazy that people are allowed to have opinions. In your words why don't you simply just "not read the comments and allow those who don't like the show to say what they want?" Why so worked up over someone's opinion?
redangel was the best part of that season!i had to rewatch this finale after the last finale and all the redangel scenes are still outstanding from when she gets into the suit all the way until she goes through
Soniqua is brilliant. She exudes the raw emotions that I would imagine I would feel going through some experience like this! Incredibly well done scene
Discovery with its cinematic graphics its flawless stage sets, and first rate acting puts a lot of multi million movies to shame. can't wait for season 3.
This show was good. ST different but good. It had huge lore holes but the acting and effects were good. Some scenes were brilliant like this one. And the best story arc was in mirror universe. This time travel paradox was hard to understand.
This could have in the 25th century and something to do with early time travel experiments and the extreme danger and consequences faced. Would have fit into the timeline as well.
Maybe. Or maybe The entire point is exactly what Spock said at the end about extreme classification of the events and that's why the federation doesn't dabble in it for another several hundred years. I don't care what anyone says about continuity. Discovery breaks neither canon or continuity. Spock suggesting total silence of Discovery explains PERFECTLY why we've never heard of the Spore drive til now. I hate that people can't see that. too blinded by the asinine argument that "It's not what I grew up with." THAT"S THE POINT! NEW TREK FOR A NEW GENERATION! GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELVES! ...Sorry, just get so pissed every time I see anything that could lead to the above mentioned asinine argument against new trek. And new star wars for that matter.
@@jeremydale4548agreed. My pops used to watch TOS TNG VOY when I was a kid & I didn't understand or particularly find the shows entertaining but I did find comfort in them. Fast forward to the JJ films (which I DID enjoy) prompted me to retroactively watch TOS TNG era ENT to their completion & found them magnificent. By the time I had watched (& rewatched) those shows, DISC had been up to season 3 & STSNW season 1. I was avoiding STDISC due to the negative reception by ST fans. Took the plunge late last year & honestly it is a spectacular show. This scene, music, thoughtful reuse of TOS & TNG sfx, visuals, acting, fight scenes, etc is indicative of that.
Predestination ! ..michael is the only one who can set the signals ....why ..because she already did. ..2 suits ...spock says " it is your mother and it is you " .
As perfect as this scene can be ,I found some incoherence : 1- she is in space she couldn't be moving like she did just before entering the wormhole. 2-the lights that passed her and hit her suit while traveling were supposed to be stars I guess. 3- her metal wings were not there when she was in the wormhole and appeared just before the exit
I could be able to answer those questions. 1. A stable wormhole would have gravity in order to prevent the wormhole from immediately collapsing when entering. So she would be able to move alitte but she can't change her direction since the blackhole/wormhole gravity is so much greater than her. Thus she gets pulled in. 2. I'm think that those aren't stars but light particles hitting her. As she continues to accelerate pass the speed of light. However those particles should be going through her. But it's sci-fi may as well be reality when it comes to the interior workings on a blackhole. 3. Think the wings activate to push her beyond the speed of light. Those making the time travel successful instead of being stuck in the wormhole/black hole. Thus when she leaves the balckhole/wormhole for those moments she is red shifted. I hope that helped you with your questions
@@bluemassgamer17I'd just add to #2 that the suit & composition of the material used & tech for any "deflector shields" not apparent to the viewer prevents the reverse flowing photons (light particles) from passing through her.
While being completely horseshit in regards to actual or even imagined science of the Trek universe, I can't deny that it was very well done. The end of the 2nd season actually really impressed me as far as improving Discovery in the eyes of this old Trekkie. Still has it's issues but it's worth watching to see where they go with it in the 3rd season.
I don't care what any Disco-Hater thinks - but i do love this Show. I hope they are going for 7 seasons. 3 or 4 - please don't, this show is too good, Sonequa Martin Green is such a great actress...
@@Yaapo lol i really liked somehow the first 2 seasons because i need Star Trek so much. 3 years have gone by since this post and i can assure you - i'm one of the worst haters of STD ;)
Truly a realistic time travel experience, given that this seemed the longest three minutes in my life. I came face to face with Eternity as I continually wondered, "Will this ever end?" I came to humbly acknowledge my mortality when I realized that with my puny human lifespan, I don't have time to watch this show.
As much hate as Discovery gets, this is a fantastic sequence. The only problem I have with Discovery is it's writing. It's definitely not as good as it could be, though it is getting better. Season 2 was certainly better written than season 1. I'm looking forward to seeing what season 3 will have in store!
Angel wings in Star Trek? Why not. Next season she'll be nailed to a cross wearing a crown of dilithium crystal thorns then stabbed in the belly by a bat'leth.
While in terms of science fiction Discovery looks okay, its still not Star Trek in my eyes (will amend to say not primary timeline Star Trek). Far too many breaches of canon.
@@IsaacPiezac Well there are multiple timelines in Star Trek now. One could argue that Star Trek Enterprise exists in an alternate timeline created when the Enterprise E went back in time in First Contact. Because there was no record of an NX-01 prior to that, DISCO and SNW could also exist in this alternate timeline. The JJ Abrams movies are also a divergent timeline. I would say there are 2 or 3 divergent timelines at this time, could be more because of every time the crew went back in time to take part in historical events.
A time travel suit instead of a ship? She had to fly to a location instead of taking a ship there? All the jumps (appearances,) of the so-called red angel were neccessary why? Yea the space ship fight scenes were really good but the red angel storyline did not make any sense, never showed why any of them were necessary or why they need go be connected ( why necessary)! The Enterprise was cool though, now I'd watch a Captsin Pike storyline!
First Signal: To rescue Reno and obtain the interstellar asteroid needed to save Terralysium. Second Signal: Lead to Terralysium therefore identifying a safe place in the future. 3rd Signal: Saved the Kelpians from the Ba'ul and prepared them for the battle near Xahea 4th Signal: Lead to Boreth to obtain the time crystal which would allow them to travel to the future. 5th Signal: Lead to Xahea in order to get the help of the one person who could power the time crystal. 6th Signal: Guided Discovery into the wormhole 7th Signal: Sent to let Spock and others know that Discovery arrived safely in the future. Each was necessary to defeat Control and keep the sphere data out of its hands. All of this was mentioned in the episode.
You have a ship that cannot be reached but you prefer a fight in which you risk everything until the last second? Too stupid, I can't watch it anymore...
mckappe except that they determined that even using the Spore Drive would not solve the problem. So they had to fight. And if you don’t like it, don’t watch it.
No matter how far You go, You are always reachable. Also Spore Drive requires some kind of map, so only our Galaxy comes into equation if I remember right. And they did not "prefer" fight. They couldn't avoid it.
