@@loveylace4541we don’t know how long Pike was in command of Enterprise at this point or what happened in its mission till then but it sat out the war and he said they were on deep exploration with orders not to return if star fleet lost. While close quarters for a while does make a group close the life and death nature of his time with discovery is a very different level of bonding. Think of going to the office everyday, you make friends, some closer than others but compared to being with people who saved your life and whose lives you saved. Living together through a very chaotic event makes much deeper bonds than just a regular crew doing very normal events.
A few some-what good episodes don't make a series. Star Trek: Discovery was a diversity, woke garbage show. With a political agenda so out of mainstream it lost huge number of viewers with each passing episode. It lasted 5 seasons only because CBS refused to cancel a failed show as it didn't want to prove yet again; Go Woke, Go Broke. What they did to Klingons alone made this show inexcusable trash. (and I'm just using family friendly language for how bad this all was)
@@vonmang3524 MF what are you yappin about? star trek has always been somewhat politically aware. Discovery is bad because of trash writers and retarded execs.
This scene is absolutely breathtaking. The audio effects, the primal roar of the ships' engines, the muffled blasts of the explosions in the background, and then, damn, that music. This scene - that "Go, go, go!" bit actually brought tears to my eyes. Wonderfully done. Not the Star Trek we knew, but then people have been saying that since Encounter at Farpoint.
I mean, whats left? They tidied up this series nice and neat and even gave us a cute lil bow tie from Star Trek: Picard. Im thinkin' Discovery is over man.
@@adaptabledisease Your comment did not age well at all. Season 3 was fantastic, and there are infinitely many stories to tell from here. Discovery rocks!
So top 3 scenes for me in Trek: 1. Enterprise escaping in Trek III 2. Burnham Taking Flight in this video 3. Battle Between Kirk and Khan in the Nebula from Trek II
This and Michael jumping in the Red Angel for the first time are two of the most spectacular scenes I've ever seen in Star Trek, and I've been watching since TNG was coming on new on TV (😂). Beautiful!
@@Booyaka9000 Nice job shaming someone for liking new trek. Stop gate keeping, makes you look like an ass. I've been watching Trek for 30 years, and love the new trek. Stop shaming those who do, you don't own Trek.
A classic scene in the amazing lore of Star Trek -- perhaps top 10 since a Federation ship has never jumped into its own far future with that amount of time! The following episode is gold too, since they realize everyone they knew is ancient history.
This was a fucking AWESOME finale. The visuals of them going into the wormhole were *chefs kiss* That scene alone should have won them an Emmy, this final battle was Emmy worthy. Love! Love! Love it! Outstanding job, CBS. Not sure why Michael couldn't be IN the ship and they *follow* her signal to assure they arrived at the same time in +984yrs, but hey, still a great scene.
@@kenmasters2025 The suit itself isn't auto pilot capable for what she needed to do. Opening the wormhole, setting the signals, and leading Discovery could only be done manually. Also they touched on Discovery being able to follow her on auto pilot, the crew choose to go with her to the future instead so she wouldn't be alone. They had to go to the future to keep the data out of the hands of Control and therefore protect all sentinel life in the galaxy.
This is entertainment. This is a story. This is not a real depiction of what or can happen. This is done to get people to enjoy the story of man fighting a creation they created and winning.
For those who take it for granted: I hope you someday understand why a character like Michael Burnham is so important to us black female sci-fi geeks. We've watched other people shine all our lives and enjoyed them, but for us to have someone we can see directly into is a special gift. Never would have thought I'd see the day when there'd be a character like her. It truly does bring tears to my eyes. This is still my favorite episode, as it has some of my favorite scenes in the whole series. My favorite relationship in the series is one I never would have expected to have been in the first place: Michael and Spock. It was beautiful, and their goodbye right before is so bittersweet, as is the Discovery saying goodbye to Captain Pike and Saru leaving his people after finally being reconnected with them after all that time.
As a cis White male, this word brought tears to my eyes. Captain Burnham is the Captain we've waited 56 years for. And for Black Women everywhere, you are seen, loved, honored and exalted!
I loved it, it was like one of the best episodes of TNG spread out over a whole series. The setup for the mystery, following the bread crumbs, the picture comes into focus, and by the end, we finally found the answer! In the words of Picard, "We humans, we love mysteries, it's in our nature to want to solve them."
Am I the only one who has the Red Angel remind them of the Nexus? Cause honestly this sequence is so beautiful but the way the lights travel and such just makes me think of the Nexus from the TNG era.
This was so emotional, Pike thought of them like Family and that is so sweet! In my DR I’ll make sure to bring them back and the reunion will be sweet (and pike won’t have to die)
Sadly, the only way to save the universe was to send Discovery so far to the future that the AI couldn't possibly complete itself. But on the other hand, we got Michael seeing the man Spock became in Unification 3. And to see that his life's work was truly successful, even though he never lived to see it.
They definitely had my favorite relationship (I loved all the relationships) out of the whole series. It had such a well-done, clearly drawn out progression. If I were Michael, I wouldn't have wanted to let him go either. Hell, I'd watch a show where Michael and Spock go on adventures, now that I think about it! 😭
The thing about this event is that it reconciles everything that has already happened in the first 2 seasons with everything we already know about the pre-TOS era - i.e. Pike in command of Enterprise. Spock is his science officer. The Spore Drive doesn't exist.
You know what, I've never got along with almost 90% of the left-minded ideas in this series (and I'll never do probably), but I liked the whole work so much, I can even watch it over and over again for eons, dreaming of a future where humans have reached the stars, met other life forms, and even formed alliances with them!, Just imagine if all the money spent on all wars in history was invested in scientific research, maybe Star Trek would've been the world we live in now! 🌌
As much I adored the show for its first 2 seasons and hated the latter 2, this scene makes me fucking CRY. It's shot so beautifully and I wish the whole series followed suit. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@narohato1749 Yes, control was based on the sphere data on AI, and we saw before that it was capable of moving itself through time, given the right conditions. The Sphere data had to be sent to the future to prevent control from ever being formed.
Ngl, I genuinely hope that Discovery manages to find a way back to their original timeline as sort of a breakoff timeline branch to the original timeline
The thing about this event is that it reconciles everything that has already happened in the first 2 seasons with everything we already know about the pre-TOS era - i.e. Pike in command of Enterprise. Spock is his science officer. The Spore Drive doesn't exist.
This was SUCH A FANTASTIC show up until this point. Season 3 and beyond are just plainly upsetting garbage. They set this show up for such a grandiose future, just to end up with the most PEDESTRIAN take on it. I hope season 5 gives it the STAR TREK ending it deserves for at least being a part of the franchise. 🖖🏼
Can anyone tell me how the ending makes sense? Why does going into the future save the data from control? Control is an AI so it won't die and still exist in the future so how does it make sense to say "let's go into the future where we are save from control."??
Because control needed to have the data to evolve in the first place. Its evolution and eventual dominance is achieved by having the Sphere Data. So by transporting that data into the future it couldn't evolve and therefore it could easily be neutralized. Without the data control is simply a AI without any real self awareness. This makes it just a piece of technology/software that can be destroyed.
@@CarlosHuiskens I haven't watched the show so I expect that's why I'm confused. Was there some limitation possessed by Control that explained why this would work? Some MacGuffin about Control withering away very quickly without the data or being unable to replicate itself into other systems and simply transfer itself around and wait in hiding? Control is an AI which knew it needed the Sphere Data and it also knew about the Red Angel and knew what the plan was, correct?
@@rebaav I believe that Control primarily uploaded itself to Leland's dead body when the A.I reanimated him with nanites that contained itself. And because the spore drive module was magnetized they were able to neutralize Control to such an extend that it wasn't able to control the fleet anymore. Also the reason why it wanted and knew about the sphere data is presented in episode 7 of season 2. In that episode Luitenant Commander Airiam is corrupted by an entity from the 28th century specially to collect data in Artificial intelligence. Now while not directly confirmed i believe that this entity was a fully evolved Control from a future in which it achieved getting the Sphere Data which resulted in the total loss of life ( depicted in Spock's visions ) So in order to basically advert that future they took the Sphere data to the future so that the neutralized A.I in the present couldn't evolve beyond its basic nature. Without the Sphere data Control was still just an A.I that could be defeated. As mentioned by Michael's mom the future she visited was devoid of any life. So i truly thing that A version of Control from the future tried to ensure its own evolution but ultimately failed.
I thought this total trash at the time. Comparing this to the drastic increase in quality that came with strange new worlds, I haven't changed my opinion.
The thing about this event is that it reconciles everything that has already happened in the first 2 seasons with everything we already know about the pre-TOS era - i.e. Pike in command of Enterprise. Spock is his science officer. The Spore Drive doesn't exist. And so on.
The issue was the Sphere data couldn't be removed from the ship and they ethically wanted to avoid destroying it because it was sentient. As long as the data remained in the past, the potential future would still exist and could continue to send agents back in time to insure a version of Control got the data. Moving the ship to the future instantly cut off the future timeline and insuring 23rd century Control was destroyed was extra insurance.
@@bluedotdinosaur They did try to destroy Discovery and therein the data, but it had control of the ship's systems and thus raised shields when the Enterprise fired torpedoes at it.
It’s lockstep purists like YOU who are so trapped in the 1990s that to you anything after DS9 and Voyager do not exist and that mindset will kill ALL STAR TREK FOREVER, not just the type you hate. You do have the right to not like something but Star Trek is supposed to be about optimism no matter how bad thing might seem, about celebrating our differences and working together in peace for a better life. How ironic then that you hypocritically reject everything Star Trek stands for by casting hate upon anyone and anything you disagree with
@@DancingRasputin just to nitpick, how can you say that star trek is supposed to be about optimism when Discovery is literally *and* metaphorically dark in nature? never in the history of Trek, even DS9 had such a bleak and dystopian look of the future.
@@thegoose1005 Discovery gets a helluva lot darker, that's for sure. But the darker the tunnel, the brighter the light at the end. Because of the darkness, ironically, Discovery practically conveys the message of optimism better. The world is crushing around them, but they still keep fighting to make the future a better place. They never give up, and they set aside their differences to build the road to tomorrow. Stardust here is absolutely right.
Remnants of control was still present in Federation systems. They touched on that towards the end of the episode. They went to prevent any reoccurrence of control getting it's hands on the data
@@hoscat1395 They couldn't. They tried but the data protected itself. Therefore preventing it's deletion. The only option was to remove Discovery from the galactic equation entirely.
Season 3 didn't end on a cliffhanger. But it didn't have to, because now the main task is to knit together the remnants of the Federation and then build something even better than before.
Yeah, I don't think season 3 had nearly as cool an ending as 1 and 2. But I mean they couldn't do much to make it as breathtaking. I don't think I could have written anything better given the context.
It wasn't cancelled. It did so well it singlehandedly propped up the entire streaming service and relaunched the franchise. The new ST shows are very expensive and only two full series can be in production at once. Getting five seasons in the modern streaming environment is an expected run for one show.
I'm surprised by the positive comments I've just watched the final episode of Season 2 and couldn't believe how bad it was. The effects were amazing but the story was a complete mess with so many stolen ideas and script constructs. It also had no flow or explanation of what was happening. When the klingons turned up with the other race it felt completely wrong to me. I shall continue watching Star Trek Discovery but have to say this for me is the second worst Star Trek series after Deep space Nine. It was by far the worse episode of Discovery I have seen. The only good thing was the way it ended did want me to continue watching as I wanted to see what happens next but I'm just not happy with the entertainment value of the episode itself.
Disco is okey. Probably this season 2 is the best by far of any star trek. While it does not have that “nostalgic” star trek feels, i welcomed it with open mind. Nevetheless, i still rank still rank disco 2nd, tied with tos as tng and voyager tied for my 1st. Never saw ds9 and enterprise yet. Will have to do a marathon on those on netflix soon.
"when the Klingons showed up with the other race" Hold on, did you pay any attention at all? Ash Tyler/Voq went back to L'Rell to request aid from L'Rell's fleet, and why wouldn't the Kelpiens want to come and help Saru? listen, your ignorance of what's going on doesn't make it bad LMFAO
I can make that criticism of anything. "A ring that turns you invisible? Really? Writers have become idiots in this age." "A space station that can destroy planets? Really? Writers have become idiots in this age." "A ship that explores space? Really? Writers have become idiots in this age." Even if it seems like it's stupid from the outside, but if you actually watched Lord of the Rings, or Star Wars, or Star Trek The Next Generation, it makes sense because that's what the show is. Maybe watch the show and tell me what you didn't like about the Red Angel. I don't think it was perfect, but it certainly wasn't written by idiots.
