Star Trek Discovery: S4 E13 Starfleet Command at Warp 

It's earth not some backwards alien planet. Of course Starfleet would come to its aid. Nearly all Starfleet officers are humans.

@@gabelogan5877 Given the hybridization going on by this time, it'd probably be more accurate to say most Starfleet officers are nearly human.

Well, they had no other choice. It's Earth.

It's Earth. Founding member of the Federation and Starfleet. Of course Starfleet is coming for help.

@@Vestat1 of course they had a choice. Earth Fedexited the UFP when the UFP needed it most. And Earth's defence forces even turned its guns on Discovery the first time they showed up.

IMO, if ANYONE was going to be the sole believer of the four founding races, it very well SHOULD have been Earth and not Tellar. For god’s sake Humans brought the other three together in peace where before they were neutral at best with each other. I give crap to fans who give Discovery hate for no reason. But in this instance, I agree with the Fans. Terrible idea by the writers to make Earth leave the Federation. Although, I do have to laugh at the fact that for all the talk of Earth being the sole thing that is keeping the Federation from being Crippled, earth left the Federation and yet said Federation was not crippled in the way that it was through the burn.

this is star trek at its worst. Utter gutter trash.

​@@jeremydale4548I think they chose earth to make a point though, it's the founding member that was in greatest support of the Federation's ideals and it chose to leave. That shows how dire the situation is. It's not as impactful to viewers if they say tellar left. Also in the later years before the Burn Earth had probably diminished in importance due to the Federation's growth

@@keyboardt8276also, the point is that humanity is always capable of being stupid beyond reason.

​@@frasierfreak92I highly doubt the showrunners had that intention

Definitely wanting to see the specs of this starbase, but can't find them on Memory Alpha or Memory Beta

Why would space stations have been destroyed? The burn destroyed ships in warp, not ships outside warp and not bases.

@@korpiz You don't understand the scope of the Destruction the ship or star base, did not have to be in warp remember the warp core or power generation of a starbase (would assume dilithun been used) is always active even when it's idle providing primary power to ship systems (its not off) only power cores/warp cores that was actually off (no matter/antimatter running) and was running on Alternative power like fusion power or other non dilithun and based power generators did not explode when the dilithun became Inert it was basically a rock pumping antimatter into it resulting in matter/antimatter Explosion instantly unfortunately ships and stations don't have or unable to contain it with shields even if they could that type of system would only be active for an expected Explosion due to the power Draw to maintain a shield of that type even then it would have to be a directional shield where the blast is directed outside of the ship as there's no way you could contain an explosion like that (it would permanently disable the ship but only people in Engineering would die if they was inside the explosion containment shield) As far as i am aware this may have been universe's wide as it was not explained if there was a limit on how far the destruction when he screamed

@@korpiz If the station was on the move, or even just powered up, it would have been vulnerable to the Burn.

@@7thsealord888 If it had been built at the time... Starfleet HQ was moved AFTER the Burn because it made earth too much of a target. For the same reason, having an HQ Starbase capable of Warp travel just makes sense.

Ripped off, you mean.

@@travisfoster1071 then did Stargate writers “rip off” the work of Hugo Gernsback and the countless other writers and artists depicting flying cities. Nothing wrong taking inspiration.

My first thought too!!

@@backupplan6058 doesn't matter because the whole discovery series is shit

I mean they took the HQ off earth and built a station. It'd have to go the warp otherwise it would take the station too long to get away from the planet.

They just had to hire one decent writer and it could have been ok.

No it didn’t

@@rekrn12345 That and not make the series about Michael "Burn"ham.

The hiding was over at this point I believe

I thought just that. I have no doubt that the Discovery writers had some inspiration from this.

@@jeand5316 please note: in a ds nine episode , chief obrien got the station under its own power using a field and its own thrusters , not warp but able to move none the less.

Because cubes are boring

@@langm1701 And THAT'S on periodt.

Probably limitations in generating a warp field without nacelles. Detached or not.

'detach and sod off' LOL

You just answered your own question. And remember this is a whole lot of years in the future than what you're talking about in terms of elaborate design.

Tradition and honor to ages past, perhaps.

I think you or they got it wrong, they can only save 450k people alongside titan's population, the rest billions left is going to die. I used a subtitle just to clarify that because i also thought only 450k will be left to die but no, that's the amount of people they can only save

@@kyt895 Makes you wonder how many could have been evacuated if the Federation and Starfleet were at their peak (pre-Burn)? ST:Picard showed that Starfleet had the resources then to build a fleet to evacuate Romulus (which would’ve been a massive undertaking). Unfortunately that fleet was sabotaged and the whole shipyard (along with Mars) was decimated.

That's not the number he said would be lost. That's all they can SAVE...best case.

There’s no evidence of bigger on the inside tech in Disco, I think the tech isn’t really used or got banned alongside the temporal wars, otherwise they probably would’ve been able to save more…

@@Altenarian In the season 3 finale, there are several scenes that show a HUGE room full of turbolifts inside the Discovery.

Ardeth Bay, The Medjai seems to be Immortal.... :P

There was actually a TNG episode that addressed this. Life was seeded in the galaxy by these suprime beings, and therefor a majority of the races in Star Trek follow the same 2 arms 2 legs, 2 eyes, 2 ears, nose, mouth format. Pretty good writing imo. Its episode 20 of season 6 of TNG

@@FoolOverride I was more referring to how "ugly" the Ferengi became in the 32nd century while humans got "handsome" LOL

@@BarnyardEngineering your right they do be kinda gross

@@BarnyardEngineering Going to have to say that those probably look VERY handsome for Ferengi. On the scale of 1,000 years, I'm going to bet that Sexual Selection is the primary winner here.

Because they don’t have enough transporter buffer space, and buffer signals can degrade.

Or in a big enough computer. Donna Noble has been saved.

There are billions of people on Earth. There's no way to fit all those people in pattern buffers.

Or per what's actually shown... The HQ when we see it is all the way out in the middle of nowhere, & on top of that is cloaked. They were obviously putting high value in being undetected. Being able to move the station is a no-brainer with those pre-established elements.

@@Rocksteady72a I find it interesting how each deck can go to warp independently. Meaning each deck of Federation HQ has its own integrated warp cores. I assume the no-nacelle aproach is inneficient compared to dedicated warp nacelles, but good enough for things like these.

@@Timeward76 Either they’re inefficient or they’ll never financially recover from those burned-out warp cores.

@@Rocksteady72a well, I'm guessing deck separation is only a thing for emergencies like these, so a less efficient no-nacelle solution is acceptable given its not used all the time.

@@Timeward76 It was a joke lol. Ofc that makes sense

If memory serves, the station was built before the Burn, when the Federation was at its zenith. Besides that, with Starfleet so weakened, having a mobile headquarters is very much a necessity. They couldn't be sure of defending a stationary target.

Cause it's not actually a space station. It's a starship, the USS Federation. "Pax"-class, registry NCC-325002

Trans Warp conduits are full of wreckage from some federation ships, idk if are from the burn or from a war but they are dangerous to be used by ships without transformation capacity.

They invented transwarp and now they just call it regular warp I guess

Yup.

Can't Kurtzman without the Elevator Subspace

It wasn't woke it was populist scifi writing.

And yes it was terrible

It’s modeled after a quantum wave function, which is unquestionably something that would be IMMEDIATELY visually recognizable to any and all warp-capable species.

Yep. Anger generates more engagement, and that engagement fuels the mentality that "well we must be right then, look at all the views!", and that stupidity fuels the stigma Discovery has, despite most of the complaints levied against it being a things left behind in season 1.

yeah than the show at this point. Season 4 was worse than 3, at least SNW is doing okay for new Trek.

@@theharbingerofconflation "okay" lmao. Even when Star Trek does almost-objectively good, people have a hard time admitting it, apparently

@@Rocksteady72a objectively good? I just said SNW is doing decent? Disco is just flat out bad writing. Tell me what Disco does good in S4 please.

@@theharbingerofconflation Tell me where I was talking about Disco?

I would guess volcan made it

It’s designed to look like a probability wave It’s pretty cool

If you took the time to notice, it's shaped that way to achieve maximum warp efficiency, as those little spring looking parts are shaped similarly to the warp field itself. It's also useful for creating better shields too. Also notice that if you spin the ship in circles very quickly, it can provide some cover over the HQ body.

@@10054 Incorrect. Voyager already solved that with the variable-geometry warp nacelles a thousand years earlier. They didn't need spindles or whatever this is. As for the station itself, the existence of shields negates any need for rotating protection. It was never needed before. Definitely don't need it a millenia in the future. Its just an ugly design. Swing and a miss. Sometimes it happens in Star Trek. We peaked at the Sovereign Class as far as good looking Trek designs go. Moving on.

@@nobody-wk6ej I like the design, and you're in the minority on specifically just this. End of story, moving on.

then don't watch lol

@@markandredulay7818 very intelligent comment to critique. But no wonder about a generation, who calls a rape-porn Show a blockbuster

Star Trek must evolve or become stagnant.

@@teslahertz4916 I love how you just belittled them for saying, "don't watch," and sarcastically calling it intelligent, yet you, yourself didn't do anything remotely intelligent than copy and paste someone else's opinion on the show.

It's closer to the point to call it the fanbase becoming toxic garbage.

Have you seen modern media, it's all this new crop of the low-rent writers know. It's also all studios will fund, as it may be trash but they know it will work on enough people to get multiple seasons out of a project. Basically, the Hollywood system is geared to trash. Always has been. Something good slips through the cracks every now and then, but studios have become so risk averse because of the instant feedback of social media that now they almost always "play it safe". So, that's why we get endless dramas and police procedurals (though thise have become "risky" lately as well because American Cops are generally assholes)

Like Star Wars wasn't space opera.

machines and tactics that work usually are, thats why theyre designed and used as such. Car steering wheels being functionally round is also cheesy, obvious, downright simplistic. Hence their universl use. But I gather you have a different story element and scene in mind in place of this. Lay it out for us.

How is it dumb to make HQ warp capable? Isn't more dumb to make it unable to go warp with all those technological advancements they've made...

Things have changed in 900 years. Things don't stay the same.