I remember when the XL Engine was announced to support Blood... then Lucius poofed and we have GDX, NBlood, and Fresh Supply... Dark Forces needs that love again.
Two words: FUCKING... DISNEY... Technically, Kyle exists in the extended universe pre-Abrams, so Disney would have to spend some money to re-license and retcon Kyle, especially since the story of Rey now overshadows everything.
Dark Forces encapsulates the old saying of "Does a falling tree make a sound, when no one is around?" and modifies it into first person shooter format of "Does the Empire know Kyle Katarn is there, when no storm troopers are left alive?"
Star Wars Rogue One could've been good. If Disney didn't step in and change the whole tone/plot of the film. It was originally supposed to be an Apocalypse Now rendition of Star Wars.
Honestly, I half hope that the end of rise of the skywalker is Kyle punching his way into the Movie verse and bringing back the EU. Disney just saying, sorry we fucked up, here have it al back.
This game REALLY nailed the atmosphere. I remember being 13 years old, playing it at a friends house, saying "This is amazing." and my friend saying "Yeah, it really FEELS like Star Wars, doesn't it?" Yes. Yes it does.
You know, Kyle's badassery ends up bleeding into Boba Fett's if you think about it. Think about it, how many enemies were able to take plasma cannons to the face, from Kyle "Morhefucking" Katarn, and LIVE?
What was badass about Boba Fett? In the original movies he gets taken out by a blind dude. Fanon just made him out to be the Star Wars Punisher because he looked cool but that was it.
@@yocapo32 Eh, the most interesting i've seen Boba Fett in EU is in the New Jedi Order book series where he becomes the new mandalore and fights alongside the Galactic Alliance against the Yuuzon Vhong. Outside of that he's basically just the Star Wars equivalent of Steven Seagal an untouchable killing machine that walks through his enemies while not having a distinguishable personality.
@@elijahjarman2837 This game looks great, besides some of the rooms being too bland, especially the outdoor ones. But it has beautiful skyboxes also, as well as textures, and great pixel graphics.
@@fovarberma752 TBH the Mortar (the grenade launcher) in Dark Forces is even reviewed in the game's manual as 'a lot of fire and a lot of smoke, looks more impressive than it is.'
Punching three kell dragons to death... That's some Teddy Roosevelt power levels right there. Also, I don't know about you guys, but Krix Madine sounds like a really fancy cheese toastie. Possibly involving blue cheese and Black Forest ham.
Krix Madine is still a bit better than Plo Koon. Madine is only a letter off Nadine, and Krix is only a letter off Trix, which if you believe old gangster movies was a name at some point.
I think as a kid I would've stopped playing right then and there if the sewer level wasn't right at the start. Forcing yourself through that horrifying dianoga-infested shithole so that you can see the rest of the game... I guess it builds character, or something.
@Stix N' Stones They don't modify your movement in dumb ways like those, but they're commonly cramped, dark, maze-like and boring, not to mention cliche as all hell. In this particular case, though, the biggest problem is that the dark maze is full of respawning nightmare tentacle monsters.
Lucasarts LOVED that level for some reason. 'The Sawmill' level from Outlaws (their western shooter) is basically the exact same thing all over again. Maybe even more evil in fact. 'The Tian Shan River' from Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine also uses the same concept although they did simplify it there somewhat.
Imagine giving a soldier a mission objective that's "infiltrate a base and steal something" and then 20 minutes later there's a news story about that entire base being massacred.
Someone created a level for Dark Forces that had several rooms that existed in the same space. You'd go into a hall at the end of the room that was a turn around that would bring you back to what should have been the same room, but had more bad guys in it. Damn. That game came out 25 years ago. I feel old.
One of the things I found messing with reading the Dark Forces data files is that pretty much all the official levels do this at least a little bit, but especially the end of the ice level is just a mess of overlapping tunnels and ice and that chemical area.
So, you kill Boba Fett with mines behind a wall while he doesn't react to it? The sad part is, it's still only the 2nd most embarrassing way Fett goes out.
To be fair, I guess Fett didn't die in this game so he could get beaten by Solo later.
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@@leebard9335 I don't believe those are canon, but, I will say every SW short story is leagues ahead of the writing done for episode 1-3, and 7,8 soon to be 9, and are more in tune with the original trilogy than anything ever officially entered into the timeline. In my mind they were legit.
Going by the old EU, it's even more of a family tradition. His granddaughter tries to take on one of Han and Leia's kids and gets bane'd with telekinesis.
that level legitimately got me stuck on that game when I was 8 or 9. Never beat it. Fucking tentacle boss at the end always robbed me of experiencing that supposedly sweet space battle at the end of the game.
Star wars character: There's a group of storm troopers. We gotta get outta here. Kyle: There's a group of storm troopers. Oh boy here I go killing again
@ScopeDog All expanded universe stories are more over-the-top than the actual movies, so I'll bet if you just dig up all the EU stories of Han set in times before, after, and between the movies, he'll be even more badass than Kyle.
@@handsomebrick Nah. You can literally just compare their feats on WhoWouldWin. Kyle is a fucking monster, def in the top 5 strongest chars in SW Expanded lore. Han would actually be under Lando and even R2 from comparing feats.
@@ZigealFaust R2 is a fucking BOSS, don't forget all the shit he has done both in Old Canon and Disney Canon. He probably would get along better with HK-47 than 3PO.
@@handsomebrick speaking of you heard the story how he survived a sith zombie virus and that was the boarding he had when he lost jabba's shipment? I am speaking of han.
"And they couldn't have made a movie about Kyle Katarn stealing the death star plans cause it would be over in fifteen minutes" Eh, more like five, give or take.
@@michaelandreipalon359Apparently in legends the plans were fragmented as there is plenty of games were you have to get the plans like in this game, classic battlefront 2 and I think also X-wing.
Discovering this channel and picking and choosing videos at semi-random has made this video especially cathartic for finally revealing where that huge leap in sewer level count came from
The “Kick Start My Heart” is one of the funniest bits I’ve seen in a long time and the whole thing was like 5 seconds. I will always think this is hilarious.
LucasArts used that guy for most of the Vader speech moments in 90s SW games; Rebel Assault 1 and 2, X-Wing series, TIE Fighter series, Dark Forces, etc.
Just some trivia for you. The imperial officer at the end next to the shuttle was placed there not as a threat, but to instead help show off the scale of the shuttle - giving it a nearby size comparison (human). Also, if you aim straight up as far as you can and punch someone, you uppercut them into the air. Sometimes they fly up at least 20 meters. Its hilarious. I used to uppercut people off ledges into space on the nar shadda level. If you turn on god mode, you can also jump into space and will find all the bodies you punched off on an invisible floor that appears to be flying through space. It's pretty trippy.
Pig aliens = Gammorian Guards. I can't fuckin BELIEVE I remember that. I was such an OG trilogy nerd as a little kid. Then it was ruined for my own kids' generation. Dark Forces was SUCH a great Doom clone, I was almost as blown away by it as I was the original Doom a year earlier. Excellent look back and playthrough. I wish this gem would get the ol' HD remaster.
The dark troopers in The Mandalorian were badass, so it’s really cool to learn after checking Wookiepedia that this game is their first appearance ever. I thought they were made for the show.
Pity they're nerfed, just like the TIE Defenders in Rebels and Squadrons, especially when compared to the beasts that they are on the TIE Fighter video game.
As a long time Dark Forces fan, seeing Dark Troopers in live action made me so happy. Just wish more had been done with them, brought them back in season 3.
And then there's kriffing Multiverse Theory, as implied in the Devilworlds comics, the Infinities comics, the Tales comics, and then the Cult and Supernatural Encounters novellas. As a Legends fan, believe me, Star Wars has always been this unnaturally wild even during its infancy.
Winston Wolff actually directly inspired his movie counterpart character. At a social event Tarantino met Winston who had been introduced to him as the guy who solved problems in the making of Dark Forces.
With how the Mandalorian handles some of the extended universe stuff, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see Kyle Katarn to show up for another go at Boba Fett before pairing up as some sort of buddy cop situation to kick some ass together.
I always really liked the fact that this game was completely devoid of Jedi, force and lightsaber antics. Something about exploring the Star Wars universe as a regular mercenary with blasters and the like just made it feel more fun and immersive.
@@KyosukeShigeru He absolutely slayed in Gargoyles, but at the time this game came out, he was also doing a few episodes of Voyager and one of Deep space 9, a few episodes of some forgotten sitcoms, and he even did a full movie called "Time Travel Through the Bible". Not to mention that he was still filming the last season of Next Generation and a documentary about the end of Star Trek Next generation while the game was in pre-production, so not a lot of time to do voice acting.
The story of this game trilogy is the one they should have used for the/a movie. I played these games decades ago and still remember them lovingly. They even treat all the characters with respect. I hope someday they do a remaster.
Me and all my buddies thought when they announced a new trilogy they were gonna try a gritty Dark-Knight type series with Kyle as the main char. We live in a whacked out timeline.
@@ZigealFaust I personally don't care for pretty much anything Marvel or DC (It's probably a decent movie, but I tried watching Avengers with my ex gf on two separate occasions. Both times the movie could not keep my attention past 40 minutes in, and she and I eventually made our way to the bedroom... At least it wasn't Iron Man 1 lmfao) and -W-wait, people who are legal drinking age actually care about muppets? 😉 Jokes aside: What can I say, different people have different tastes. (I'll also see your Avengers and raise with Disney's nightmare-land of live-action remakes ... AND Marvel Phase 4! lol) However, on that note, I'm sure the biggest "fools" and "clowns" here and the ones who thought Disney, of all horrible modern age companies on a path to monopolize entertainment, would make a DARK STAR WARS MOVIE and not just regurgitate the same crap that makes all the grown-ass Star Wars neckbeards cry at movie trailers. (TBH I miss the days when being a SW neckbeard was kind of fun and there were all kinds of unique games ... beforr the dark times ... Before the Disney Empire!)
I always loved dark forces. No lightsaber, no force powers, just you and weapons used by the everyman. I was always interested in what combat was like outside the jedi stuff. I use to wake up everyday and play this on my ps1 was one of the best times of my life :)
DARK FORCES II NAOW. By the way, it is sadly funny that although JK2/3 definitely has the best saber combat/force use, Dark Forces II definitely has the best guns. I don't know why they didn't just pseudo-port them over to JK2 instead of the lame versions of them we got instead. Also, I actually really liked the massive ass level design of DFII. It was late 90's graphics, sure, but damn, levels actually felt so damn big and felt immersive just because of that.
The graphics have really aged quite well! Like Doom & the mighty Build engine Triumvirate (Blood, Shadow Warrior & DN3D) it's a classic that just kicks ass! The gameplay, atmosphere, score & sound effects are equally effective & consistent. Another classic & a treasured gem of my childhood. As per usual, a solid video Civvie 11, for real, great job!!!!
Depends. Wouldn't hurt to play a rereleased Future Perfect on multiplatforms, especially if paired up with the second game (which is nicely acquirable on the schlocky Homefront: The Revolution via in-game arcade machine cheat code).
I got the LucasArts Archives pack, with Dark Forces, Full Throttle, The Dig and the first two Monkey Island games on it. That was THE SHIT. Still have the discs.
It's always been like that as far as I know. His suit is pretty much a mobile Iron Lung that breathes for him. That sound isn't actually him breathing himself
I started up this game for the first time just a few weeks ago, and within seconds, I immediately pegged it as the most Star Warsy-feeling Star Wars game I'd ever played. It nails it better than far more modern Star Wars games. Some kinda LucasArts magic that other companies, even great ones like Pandemic Studios (RIP), can't quite capture, I guess.
For me, the MIDI rendition of the main theme in the opening cinematic was the best rendition of it without using music files from the original film soundtrack. It was the music my Sound Blaster AWE32 was made for.
Well LucasArts was owned by George Lucas, so they had access to all of the movie materials and even the same technology, like motion capture equipment, which wasn't common in the 90s especially for a video game studio
@@drstephenstrange897 Its only 2/5th done right now but I like what Ive seen so far, level design is probably the best out of all the recent boomer shooters, enemy ai and weapon balance probably needs some work tho
@@DaglessMc defintly, dusk will probably remain the gold standart even once this game is finished but I really love level design on these types of games and wrath is just a few tweaks away from being a metroidvania, the overworld alone feels so cool to explore
You'd think people would know not to mess with Kyle when, not even an hour after he's tossed into a pit with multiple Kell dragons, he's killed them, everyone on the ship and then escaped.
One thing I remember about that Stouker Concussion Rifle, it was an awesome mine disposal weapon. After I had more than a few deaths to lots of the mines Civvie noted, I just kept that Concussion Rifle ready and blasted away at any suspiciously dark corners. Star Wars fireworks is good culture ^_^
The way Disney is represented by the Dead Lights from It is the perfect analogy to the way I have viewed that all consuming corporation since I was a child. Also, Rogue One should have been about Kyle Katarn going all John Rambo on the Empire; I would have actually gone to see that movie!
I don't know, Rogue One is still great even to a Legends fanboy like me. Also, am more of a First Blood person. The sequels to it should be apocrypha and are better off parodied in the form of Hot Shots! Part Deux and Duke Nukem 3D.
fond memories of getting this on sale at a babbages and playing 28k dial up multiplayer with a friend across town. it played well. blew me away at the time.
If it's one thing I can appreciate about the channel, it's definitely Civvie's sense of humor. Unlike say Gman, his humor is universal and even if you don't get the jokes, you can laugh at them. Hell, I'd say his channel is underrated, and I hope one of these days, the channel passes up others. As for the video, it's humorous as always, and it's awesome to see him cover Dark Forces in its' OG state. I just wish we got DarkXL to be complete to see him cover that.
I love Gman, but not so long ago he started to drop in some "memes" in his videos, and it feels like a boomer trying to be funny to the kids, but is not because his memes are normie at best.
Thankfully it has so many rules and specifics that it can't be used constantly and thank god for that. as much I would fangasm seeing Palpatine leading the most powerful Sith Lords in Legends and the two trilogies, the new SW owners would abuse it to fucking death.
@@Ammoniumbicarbonat At least there was slight president in that with Yoda dragging Luke's ship out of the muck in the OG trilogy. That's not to excuse the time travel and battlefield manipulation Palpatine apparently dabbled in, because at the end of the day the Force honestly is the worst mcguffin superpower ever due to just how OP a writer can make it and just explain it away with vague jedi proverb.
its so refreshing to see a boomer content creator who doesn't pretend to be a childhood fan of the OG starwars franchise while whining about how the bad guys being space nazis makes the franchise woke
1:45 "Whatever the fuck this is," was a vector based Empire Strikes Back licensed cabinet. It showed up in the late 90's in my local arcade and it kicked ass. Pretty good for a game from 85 to impress teenager who'd been playing Blood and Duke3d over a decade later.
@@and8091 That last one actually looks pretty awful. Mandalorian is just ok, overhyped imo. Clone Wars could be better, the expectations and hype kinda ruined it for me.
Kyle Katarn once went to the Planet of Virgin Ionika now its just Ionika. Kyle Katarn considered Skydiveing once but he decided aganist it after seeing what the Death Star did to Onderon Every night darth vader checks under his bed for Kyle Katarn