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Star Wars Games Rogue One Wiped Out of Canon! Who Originally Stole the Death Star Plans? 

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Rogue One wiped these games out of canon. Star Wars Rogue One is a film about a rag-tag bunch of outlaws and misfits who embark on a dangerous mission to steal the plans for the Death Star. If you’ve ever followed the Star Wars "Legends" Expanded Universe canon, you’re probably aware that who originally stole Death Star plans is the most over-told story in all the Expanded Universe Legends canon history. So many people have been said to have stolen the Death Star plans that the official line was that each person had only stolen a piece of the plans, and Princess Leia put them all together on the Tantive IV.
I want to just take a moment here and remember the canon of Star Wars games which came before, before Rogue One wiped the slate clean and rubbed out all these brilliant Legends games stories.
X-Wing PC
As I mentioned in my series of review of X-Wing and TIE Fighter, the story of X-Wing dips in and out of the events seen in A New Hope. During his second tour of duty, Rebel pilot Keyan Farlander protects Lambda shuttle Maria, as it carries a physical copy of the intercepted Death Star plans to be delivered to Princess Leia aboard the Tantive IV. Keyan then attempts to protect the Tantive IV as it escapes during a fierce space battle.
Dark Forces PC
I will always remember the Death Star plans being stolen by Kyle Katarn in the first level of the Star Wars Dark Forces PC game. Dark Forces is the original story of the Death Star plans being stolen. The mission briefing calls the retrieval of the plans Operation Skyhook and sees Kyle infiltrate an Imperial facility and steal the plans from a computer archive. Similar to Rogue One Dark Forces features an ex-imperial defector, a Rebel ace pilot, a high-ranking imperial officer overseeing a new imperial superweapon, and a never-before seen dark-armoured stormtrooper.
Lethal Alliance DS PSP
During PSP Star Wars Lethal Alliance mercenary Rianna Saren works with Kyle Katarn but ends up captured and thrown into an imperial prison on Despayre, where she learns about the newly-completed Death Star. Tarkin is celebrating the completion of the Death Star by testing its superlaser on Despayre. Very similarly to Rogue One. Escaping just in time, Rianna informs the Rebellion that the plans are being held on the planet Danuta. Rebel leadership decides an all-out attack is too costly, instead sending Saren and Kyle Katarn separately to infiltrate the facility and steal the plans. Rogue One seems to have been inspired by this story in the EU Legends canon.
Battlefront II PS2 Xbox PC
But somehow, before all of this, a prison breakout aboard the finished Death Star sees some unnamed Rebel stealing a set of plans for the Death Star and beaming them down to the planet of Polis Massa - putting an end to CC’s argument of “Why didn’t the Empire just keep the plans for the Death Star on the Death Star?” The breakout is put down in a violent finale of blaster fire and lightsaber combat, with the rebels being ultimately defeated after a huge surface battle on Polis Massa. The Empire’s newest phase of dark-armoured Stormtroopers aids in crushing the rebels but against all odds plans made it out.
Empire at War PC
Bookending the entirety of Operation Skyhook sits 4X strategy game, Empire at War. During the Rebel campaign, Captain Antilles intercepts the Death Star initial plans after a raid on an Imperial facility. Later in the Imperial campaign, it turns out that some Death Star security codes were leaked to the Rebels from the Bothan Spynet. This leads to The Emperor himself going down to Bothawui and slaughtering loads of Bothans before being told the plans are aboard the Tantive IV.
The Force Unleashed Xbox 360 PS3 PS2 PC
I think we owe an honourable mention to our old pal Starkiller here. In TFU; Mon Mothma, Bail Organa and Garm Bel Iblis end up captured and held on the Death Star, whilst it’s still being built. Canonically, they’re the first non-Imperial people to ever see the station. After their escape with the help of Galen Marek, they receive reports (presumably from Rianna Saren) of what the Death Star is capable of. So begins the mission to steal the Death Star plans.
Most of these Star Wars Legends stories grate against one another, even die-hard fans like me can agree that it’s a jumbled mess. So in one way, it’s good that Rogue One wiped that slate clean. We’ve been given a more concise story, but I personally think Disney could have used these ideas a bit more, rather than just cloning the set-pieces or situations. I would have killed for a Kyle Katarn cameo in Rogue One, but I suppose it was just not meant to be.
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@onaretrotip
@onaretrotip 7 лет назад
Oh, man. A Kyle Katarn cameo in Rogue One would've been great.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
Thanks for dropping in again mate. Considering all the easter eggs in Rogue One (Chopper, The Ghost etc), it would have been easy to pop the Moldy Crow somewhere in the background.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
Kyle Katarn originally stole the plans for the Death Star. Here's all the EU / Legends stories from the videos games, which Star Wars Rogue One wrote out of canon. Who else wanted to see Kyle Katarn in Rogue One?
@jedimasterdaniel9666
@jedimasterdaniel9666 7 лет назад
The Game Show It would've been cool to see Kyle Katarn in Rogue One
@jpwolf1701
@jpwolf1701 7 лет назад
Absolutely, Kyle would have been great in Rogue One and would have even been good to see him in Episode VIII as a Jedi with Luke but hey Disney just wiped out history and a great character.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
I'd have settled for just seeing the Moldy Crow parked in the back of the Massassi Temple on Yavin IV.
@HallwayMusic91
@HallwayMusic91 6 лет назад
I too would kill to see that happen! He's my all time favorite Star Wars Character that should have been in the film!
@themainman2827
@themainman2827 6 лет назад
If someday my sons ask me "DAD, WHO STOLE THE FIRST DEATH STAR PLANS??" i answer "KYLE KATARN, MY SON, NEVER DOUBT THAT. DISNEY IS SATAN."
@b.lloydreese2030
@b.lloydreese2030 7 лет назад
I'm so glad to see Disney's exercising their creative freedom by retelling the most overtold story in the EU.
@satrethuel_productions
@satrethuel_productions 2 года назад
And they still make contradictions. Even with "creative freedom"?
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 6 лет назад
The point of the EU was never to be one cohesive canon that perfectly aligns with everything else, just the ability to enjoy a fun Star Wars story outside of yet connected to the movie universe (or galaxy, rather). I don't care, I still love the EU/Legends, and all those games you mentioned were fun to play (except the DS one, which I hadn't heard of).
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 6 лет назад
+Gallifreyan Buccaneer Thanks, I'm not being particularly serious here, more of a fun exploration of one particular event in the canon. The DS / PSP game is actually solidly enjoyable for a handheld game.
@ironinquisitor3656
@ironinquisitor3656 6 лет назад
The EU was cohesive.
@satrethuel_productions
@satrethuel_productions 2 года назад
Most contradictions in the EU have a explanation if you look hard enough. It was cohesive.
@clydemarshall8095
@clydemarshall8095 7 лет назад
As a major Kyle Katarn fan I must say that his exploits will always be my definitive version of how the Rebels got the plans. Maybe Operation Skyhook involved more than just Kyle sure. Perhaps he only got a piece. But I do not accept Rogue One into my head canon.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
Thanks for commenting Clyde. I liked Rogue One, I'm happy to slot it into my head canon, but not at the expense of Operation Skyhook. Kyle is my favourite Jedi and his story is too good to throw away.
@clydemarshall8095
@clydemarshall8095 7 лет назад
What's the progress on that Jedi Outcast video you were working on? It's been a couple months right?
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
It has. Mysteries of the Sith will be landing on Friday, which will bookend the Jedi Knight game. Jedi Outcast is still being played, so it'll be along shortly. I am seriously enjoying that game though. Not played in a few years and it's potentially even better than I remember.
@clydemarshall8095
@clydemarshall8095 7 лет назад
I probably ought to replay it. It's just that the first few missions are so difficult with how jittery the stormtroopers are. They're almost impossible for me to hit with an E-11 blaster.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 6 лет назад
Just coming back in here, did you check out all the Kyle Katarn videos I've made?
@JohnDoe-zq1ho
@JohnDoe-zq1ho 4 года назад
Bullshit that you haven’t got loads more views. The channels which choose to repeat the same shit “unknown facts”, just reiterating each other constantly are sickeningly popular. Excellent channel, thanks for your work.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 4 года назад
Thank you! I appreciate every view that I get on these videos. This is a passion of mine and finding people which vibe with it is the most rewarding thing! Thanks for your lovely comment.
@Tuskin38
@Tuskin38 6 лет назад
Rogue One didn't kill them, LucasFilm declaring the EU non-canon did.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 6 лет назад
The EU was never fully canon, the Disney "2014 rule" is what wiped them out for good.
@Tuskin38
@Tuskin38 6 лет назад
The Game Show according to Pablo over at the story group, the decision was made before then when George started writing his Sequel treatments
@tekstyles
@tekstyles 7 лет назад
oh mate I remember that lethal alliance game. I had it on DS and thought it was shit lol. wicked video tho, I had no idea this story was told so many times
@Eleven17Studios
@Eleven17Studios 7 лет назад
Absolutely adore the beautifully sarcastic titles that pop up. Brilliant job!
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
Sarcasm? I'm sure I don't know what you mean... Haha, cheers for popping in lads.
@thefuzzysheep3859
@thefuzzysheep3859 4 года назад
Not to mention the books the movies wiped out too
@EntryLevelLuxury
@EntryLevelLuxury 6 лет назад
Like seriously, introducing Kyle Katarn into canon would have opened so many doors... It's like they took the same story and reversed the gender roles of the two protagonists (Jyn and Kyle, Jan and Other guy)
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 6 лет назад
It *has* to have been a deliberate decision. Jyn Erso could easily have been Jan Ors. Their ship could have been called the Moldy Crow. It wouldn't have detracted from the story at all and it would have made at least three dozen Star Wars nerds very happy.
@christopherboo6797
@christopherboo6797 Год назад
Expanded Universe is always so much better!
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked Год назад
I love the EU. I have a few videos about it on the channel with more planned for the future, too!
@thechad7643
@thechad7643 6 лет назад
It doesn't end with the games. The excellent Han Solo book trilogy ends with a former lover of Hans and her rebel strike team dying in the counter strike after they successfully transmit the plans to a blockade runner they weren't cleared to know the name of. They were so certain they weren't going to come out of that raid, that to prevent the possibility of capture, they went in with suicide pills strapped to their collars in a way they could ingest it easily in case they were wounded and couldn't use their arms. In the Star Wars tales short gag story, "A Death Star is born." Its strongly hinted Vader passed the plans along to snub Tarkin. Again, that one was a gag story, but still applies here.
@theyautjawarrior6652
@theyautjawarrior6652 7 лет назад
The convoluted mess that Legends made with this storyline was at least more entertaining than the entirety of Rogue One's run time.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
Haha, you think so? It was really fun putting this together. I love Kyle Katarn and I guiltily enjoy all the extra guff LucasArts added on in the intervening years.
@theyautjawarrior6652
@theyautjawarrior6652 7 лет назад
Like I said, actually putting in the detective work to try to make sense of all of those different events is actually more fun and engaging than a single movie about this one topic. One thing a lot of people don't seem to realize, you can't make a universe as huge as Star Wars without a few continuity hiccups here and there, but to be fair, the legends writers have done a lot to remedy many of those discrepancies, but thanks to Disney and Lucasfilm, many more will remain unfixed.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
There was always an allowance, to my mind. EU stories weren't all considered canon, but crucially I always thought of them as folklore in themselves; stories told round campfires or bar tables. Full of boasting, exaggeration and fudged or forgotten details. It might not have been Boba Fett, but nobody can prove me wrong so I'll say it was.
@ironinquisitor3656
@ironinquisitor3656 6 лет назад
The EU was actually canon before 2014.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 6 лет назад
"... that's bait."
@Vladislak
@Vladislak 6 лет назад
Rogue One was an excellent cover story made up by the imperials because they didn't want to admit how badly Kyle Katarn embarrassed them.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 6 лет назад
This is the kind of canon I can get on board with.
@monkeysk8er33
@monkeysk8er33 Год назад
This makes more sense. It's propaganda rather than canon. I can subscribe to that.
@EntryLevelLuxury
@EntryLevelLuxury 6 лет назад
This was my original complaint when I heard about the film - "This story already exists!"
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 6 лет назад
Me too, kinda. I went in hoping for some MCU-style knowing winks. Alas, they were only for elements from the Rebels programme.
@b.lloydreese2030
@b.lloydreese2030 7 лет назад
thank you#
@henkman00
@henkman00 4 года назад
OR all the games that prove Rogue One wrong...
@danielexley9972
@danielexley9972 7 лет назад
Kyle Katarn is and will always be a better character than Jinn and Dark forces one and 2 is and will always be better than Rogue one.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
Kyle is my favourite. We have a Jedi Outcast review going out this week, keep tuned to the channel. I really love that game and it comes across in the video :-D
@danielexley9972
@danielexley9972 7 лет назад
Good to here man. It is my child hood game. Jedi academy is really good too! Glad he Kyle Katarn is your favorite character. Starkiller is my favorite character.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
Jedi Outcast video is up. I've never out more than a couple of hours into Academy. Do you recommend it?
@danielexley9972
@danielexley9972 7 лет назад
It is a really good game. It has 2 endings to it though like dark forces 2 but you play as Jaden instead of Kyle Katarn in Jedi Academy.
@TheDessamator1
@TheDessamator1 7 лет назад
Rogue one is a better story of death star plans than these games.
@endokino1281
@endokino1281 7 лет назад
At no point was it said what was better, just what came first and what came after. But hey! at least you get to be abrasive on the internet!
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
+Endo Kino I even said at the end that it's a good job that Rogue One tidied up these stories.
@terryrulestheworld2
@terryrulestheworld2 6 лет назад
Except for the fact that it contradicts the other movies. It created even more plot holes.
@TheDessamator1
@TheDessamator1 7 лет назад
also ur saying Tantive wrong.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
I've never heard it said aloud. Like most fictional terms I've only read it about a bajillion times :)
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 6 лет назад
No, The Game Show is saying it correctly
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 6 лет назад
Is it ever said aloud?
@AlexStarOfStarWars
@AlexStarOfStarWars 7 лет назад
Screw Rouge One.
@FaerieFire
@FaerieFire 7 лет назад
Screw Rogue One for tidying up a jumbled mess of stories, eh? Look, I miss Legends as much as you do but you can't go shitting on Disney just because Legends isn't canon anymore.
@toledochristianmatthew9919
@toledochristianmatthew9919 7 лет назад
True, I love a lot of the stories from Legends but a lot of them contradicted them to the storyline and even what Star Wars is about.
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla 6 лет назад
Screw Rogue One for throwing out a great character and replacing them with generic nobodies that have zero personality. How do you make a blind Force monk boring? Well ask Rogue One. It managed to pull it off. I'd take a jumbled mess of stories that are interesting over something that nearly put me to sleep watching the damn thing, and I didn't even have that reaction watching the Senate scenes in the Prequels.
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 6 лет назад
A blind Force monk played by one of the coolest stars of Hong Kong cinema, no less. I did actually fall asleep watching Rogue One for the first time. It's a fine film, but your points are definitely valid.
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla 6 лет назад
I love Ip Man. I'm a fan of Donnie Yen. I was excited to see he was part of the cast. And they managed to make him so dull. But every character was dull, so the only reason to enjoy the movie is the action scenes are pretty cool, but even then I've seen better and more importantly, the best action scenes are ones where you care about the characters. All Rogue One did was make me miss Kyle Katarn more, because Kyle Katarn was an infinitely more interesting and entertaining character than the entire Rogue One crew put together, and keeping him is worth any other messy storylines.
@that_one_guy_named_rami
@that_one_guy_named_rami 6 лет назад
Disney messed up Star Wars
@roymustang7526
@roymustang7526 7 лет назад
you should not use the f word
@MattyStoked
@MattyStoked 7 лет назад
Faith?
@TheDessamator1
@TheDessamator1 7 лет назад
who cares
@bearfunkdiscoqueens1137
@bearfunkdiscoqueens1137 7 лет назад
You do? You watched it and left 3 comments you spaz!
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