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@12neef
@12neef 5 лет назад
It was a shame that the trench war in Solo was so short. It really peaked my interest because it was do gritty and different from what has been an SW movie.
@damiansaucedo9951
@damiansaucedo9951 5 лет назад
Did you check out the deleted scene? Its not much but it adds a bit.
@12neef
@12neef 5 лет назад
Damian Saucedo yeah i did. It was good. For an extra 5 mins they could’ve left it in but that was probably a studio descion to cut it out.
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 5 лет назад
We also finally get see Imperial troops, that aren't some sort of Stormtrooper, in action.
@2Scandalous
@2Scandalous 5 лет назад
Honestly it was amazing
@yuurichito1439
@yuurichito1439 5 лет назад
@@damiansaucedo9951 Yeah
@kylecobb8018
@kylecobb8018 5 лет назад
Came for Star Wars, stayed for legit History lesson
@axlroesler8121
@axlroesler8121 5 лет назад
Haha ayy
@damiansaucedo9951
@damiansaucedo9951 5 лет назад
I even kept the video at normal speed because it was so good.
@newdivide9882
@newdivide9882 5 лет назад
Kyle Cobb For real. It really makes me wonder why History classes when I was in school only mentioned trenches in World War I as if that was the first time they were ever used
@evanthompson211
@evanthompson211 5 лет назад
Same
@garykelley9027
@garykelley9027 5 лет назад
@Cribbs Trench warfare fell off in terms of the amount of use because the development of the tank at the end of the war ended the constant stalemate that it caused throughout it.
@ldblokland463
@ldblokland463 5 лет назад
I liked the trench scene. Seeing the average Imperial soldier instead of the stormtroopers was welcome. I hope we'll see them again.
@PanzerIsDead
@PanzerIsDead 5 лет назад
Stormtroopers were the average soldier...
@finnishwehraboo8377
@finnishwehraboo8377 5 лет назад
@@richardnelson1013 just like ze STURMTRUPPEN were elite
@Ghidorah96
@Ghidorah96 5 лет назад
obiskystar anikin did you watch any original Star Wars trilogy movie? This is simply untrue
@meeperdudeify
@meeperdudeify 5 лет назад
@@Ghidorah96 Where do we see Stormtroopers in the original trilogy? Capture of the Tantive IV, and subsequent search for survivors: a high priority mission, that will make or break the Death Star project and a good shot at capturing rebel leader Princess Leia. the best troops available must be sent Guarding the interior halls of the Death Star: The Death Star project has been ongoing for decades, with countless people, credits, and resources sunk into its completion. a successful infiltration of the Death Star would result in a devastating loss for the Empire. STRATEGIC VALUE: *ABSOLUTE* The Battle of Hoth: We've has been searching for the rebel home base for 3 years since a complete moral and strategic defeat at Yavin. While the probe droid appears to have been discovered, the data it had collected shows that the rebellion was still settled in. If we can attack before the base is evacuated, they can potentially capture most of the rebel leaders, and learn the details of hundreds of rebel cells across the galaxy. This civil war could be brought to an end years quicker. Ambush in Cloud City: This is an odd mission to say the least. Why Lord Vader is choosing to risk the capture of Princess Leia for some Skywalker kid I'll never know, but rumor has it that kid is the one who blew up the Death Star. Whatever the reason, I shall serve the Empire without question. I would not ask Lord Vader why we are devoting so many resources to this kid, the last person to ask was immediately executed. Battle of Endor: This trap is risky, but if the Emperor's plan succeeds, we might destroy the entire rebel fleet. Our best shot at that is keeping this generator up and running. This blasted rebellion has gone on for too long. It is time to end it
@silverbloodborne9495
@silverbloodborne9495 5 лет назад
Actually Stormtroopers, snowtroopers and mudtroopers were the comoman trooper . All the other troopers were elite troopers
@bobwong2995
@bobwong2995 5 лет назад
Trench warfare and using trenches are 2 different things. Trench warfare =/= using trenches. Trench warfare is mosty static fighting with minimal changes in territory. Trenches are one of the most protected and effective defensive position to fight from, of course it is still used
@theemperor1363
@theemperor1363 5 лет назад
"we capture the Command post.."
@digitalis2977
@digitalis2977 4 года назад
Semantics. The difference between "trench warfare" and "using trenches" simply comes down to whether or not a Belligerent is able to force movement.
@skwidthecrayfsh34
@skwidthecrayfsh34 3 года назад
@@digitalis2977 not exactly, modern day wars still employ the use of trenches for defensive purposes but modern warfare rarely has a clear “front line”, also trench warfare is more than the use of trenches it is also the tactics employed around them, such as artillery barrages followed by charges, whereas modern day does not see such use of trenches nor charges upon those, should such positions exist, of the enemy. By your logic all warfare is trench warfare because all war for centuries has seen use of trenches, obviously this is not the case, trenches are used today for many reasons; anti vehicle ( making certain ditches that will immobilise vehicles) and cover being the main uses, because ground, the earth, is very good at stopping bullets and shrapnel
@dantewiggins5119
@dantewiggins5119 3 года назад
The Iraqis used trench warfare in 93. Didn't go well for them
@skwidthecrayfsh34
@skwidthecrayfsh34 3 года назад
@@dantewiggins5119 you realise that both sides used trench warfare in the Iraq war right? That’s like saying guns are shit because the nazis used guns and they lost, its a very stupid point
@MrDgwphotos
@MrDgwphotos 5 лет назад
"When you attack, attack from the highest heavens, when you defend, defend from the deepest depths." Sun Tzu.
@finnshun
@finnshun 3 года назад
This is why "i have the high ground" anakin attack from deepest depths 😂😂😂
@Emess_902
@Emess_902 3 года назад
Art of war.
@angryloyer_2821
@angryloyer_2821 5 лет назад
I like how everyone says that artillery would make any trenches pointless when they don't know the historical examples (so it seems). During WWI, a few days prior to the Battle of the Somme, British Artillery shelled German lines up until the battle started. In that time, 1,700,000 shells were fired into German lines. Once that was over, wave after wave of British infantry stormed German lines. The battle lasted about 5 months and they only pushed the Germans back about a half mile, combined losses on both sides being about 900,000. I should also mention the British deployed 50 tanks. Artillery can help, but by no means is it the only solution to forcing out an entrenched enemy.
@samrussell4065
@samrussell4065 5 лет назад
You're correct, although at the Somme a large part of the shells were Shrapnel as it was thought they could cut the wire. The bomb-proof bunkers the Germans had constructed far exceeded what the British calculations confirmed: being in them durring bombardment was hellish, but the majority survived, and so did their machine-guns. The use of trenches in Stalingrad is another great example of the resilience of troops against artillery.
@angryloyer_2821
@angryloyer_2821 5 лет назад
@@samrussell4065 Good points overall. However in Stalingrad you must also remember the Russians employed a "hugging" tactic to keep German artillery from shelling their own men. Still, you aren't wrong about the shrapnel shells the British used.
@samrussell4065
@samrussell4065 5 лет назад
@@angryloyer_2821 That's the thing about trenches: people think they're purely defensive, but they can be offensive as well, protecting your troops at the same time as compromising the enemy. Viet Minh tactics in Vietnam were similar: if the enemy's stength is in artillery and support arms then negate it by getting as close as possible to the enemy lines.
@Antisocialexe
@Antisocialexe 5 лет назад
Daniel Seames they say it would be poinless in Star Wars because back in ww1 shells were rarely accurate and only sometimes got a direct hit but in Star Wars the technology is much better then shoot a explosive in the air and hope it drops on their heads most energy in starwars a direct so if a side new exactly where a trench is they could decimate it
@michaell8000
@michaell8000 5 лет назад
@@Antisocialexe accuracy is still a thing trenches break up line of sight and explosions for example a fox hole will still protect a man better from a near miss than just laying down and if all that foxhole takes is a piece of metal and elbow grease then you'd better believe it will be used.
@Mailed-Knight
@Mailed-Knight 5 лет назад
Using Star Wars to educate people, you da man.
@1ksubscriberswithnovideos736
@1ksubscriberswithnovideos736 4 года назад
Grim Knight you didn’t have any replies so I thought I’d change that
@Mailed-Knight
@Mailed-Knight 4 года назад
@@1ksubscriberswithnovideos736 Thanks.
@1ksubscriberswithnovideos736
@1ksubscriberswithnovideos736 4 года назад
You got it bud
@liamanderson5703
@liamanderson5703 3 года назад
i hate southern americans but whatever and this isnt educating
@thathalflatino
@thathalflatino 5 лет назад
We need a Star Wars movie based on that battle in solo
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 лет назад
I’d watch it
@emperorconstantine1.361
@emperorconstantine1.361 5 лет назад
ThatHalfLatino that and lando himself were the ONLY good parts of Solo.
@insertmemorableusernameher6795
It wont happen because disney doesnt want to give us what we actually want
@Legionzzzz1
@Legionzzzz1 5 лет назад
There were actually deleted scenes that extended that battle by several more minutes.
@apollocrater7229
@apollocrater7229 5 лет назад
That part of the movie was hilariously scary.
@STB-jh7od
@STB-jh7od 5 лет назад
FYI-By time of US Civil war, smoothbore muskets were replaced by rifled muzzle loaders. No army was using smoothbore anymore, one of the reasons the Civil war had such high casualties-weapons had improved, but Napoleonic tactics were still being used.
@tothethreshold.9965
@tothethreshold.9965 5 лет назад
Same issue in WW1. I feel bad for the men ordered by fools to charge machine gun positions in open battle, they never stood a chance.
@Spongebrain97
@Spongebrain97 5 лет назад
I thought it was the south that still used them because they were cheaper to buy than the new shit the union was using
@thecbrndude6208
@thecbrndude6208 5 лет назад
The South tried to streamline their supply situation in the early war, but by mid-late war, everything was used by them.
@philusaphur4924
@philusaphur4924 5 лет назад
@@tothethreshold.9965 The officers seemed foolsih right now because you know what happened. The officers and generals just did what their predecesors taught them.
@tothethreshold.9965
@tothethreshold.9965 5 лет назад
Nonsense.The UK was one of the first nations offered the maxim gun, we refused it due to the old guard thinking it would serve no purpose and many officers regarding the weapon as an improper form of warfare. by the time of WW1 machine guns had been around for 30 years, these were recently developed weapons but by no means new. Even after it was repeatedly shown to be devastating they continued to use the same tactics for most of that war. It was nothing less than sheer arrogance of the generally upper class officers which cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of infantry including my great uncle..
@SnifyWisper
@SnifyWisper 5 лет назад
The Death Korps of Krieg approve thins message.
@Jake-mf5sn
@Jake-mf5sn 5 лет назад
The emperor protects!
@arttuhonkasalo427
@arttuhonkasalo427 5 лет назад
I tough that Death Korps of Krieg was mecaniced infantry?
@TheThingInMySink
@TheThingInMySink 5 лет назад
@@arttuhonkasalo427 The Armageddon Steel Legion is mech inf, Krieg are siege experts.
@NeverLookBackOnce
@NeverLookBackOnce 5 лет назад
@@TheThingInMySink Which is ironic since According to Astra Militarium doctrine, no Imperial Guard regiment should be allowed to be Mech infantry.
@Halogodzilla12343
@Halogodzilla12343 5 лет назад
FIX BAYONETS!
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 лет назад
Don't be like steve, who advocates the removal of trenches in fortifications and prefers for our soldiers to be out in the open without cover
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 лет назад
Damit steve
@tamly1098
@tamly1098 5 лет назад
Am I the only one thats realized that this channel has given me more information then my eighth grade history class?
@spencerdewberry8982
@spencerdewberry8982 5 лет назад
No you just weren't paying attention, but he does tie it together with memorable visuals.
@jrqf8689
@jrqf8689 5 лет назад
Yes it’s really sad
@danamoore1788
@danamoore1788 5 лет назад
Feel lucky. My eighth grade history teacher had the books put away to teach evolution instead of world history.
@jltlevithan209
@jltlevithan209 5 лет назад
Actually based on my eight grade history class I was able to, without a source in front of me, correct some of his facts. I assume you just didn't care nor listen to your teacher, as someone mentioned earlier.
@gibby8540
@gibby8540 5 лет назад
Man school is a dos u learn nothing i learned more in work experience then school
@Legionzzzz1
@Legionzzzz1 5 лет назад
Well to be fair to star wars it's not the only sci-fi that still uses Trench Warfare, Warhammer 40k is another one that still uses Trench warfare as well as Starship Troopers. And our own military in the US actually still trains in Trench Warfare as well. Gotta remember just because tactics are ancient doesn't mean they aren't effective when the situation calls for it. Also orbital bombardment was not used agaisnt rebel forces very often because of the presence of theater and planetary shields. The bases on Hoth for instance were protected by an energy shield that was strong enough to withstand bombardment from an Executor-class Star Dreadnought and a flotilla of Imperial-class Star Destroyers.
@comradecommissar1945
@comradecommissar1945 5 лет назад
Starship Troopers used mobile warfare and raiding tactics not trench warfare.
@samsadowitz1724
@samsadowitz1724 5 лет назад
In other words, trench warfare is used in star wars and modern day military doctrine because it works. Granted, like most strategies, it depends on the situation, but it works
@comradecommissar1945
@comradecommissar1945 5 лет назад
Nobody uses Trench Warfare anymore, this video confuses digging in and entrenchment for the entire way warfare is conducted. War today is all about combined arms and movement.
@samsadowitz1724
@samsadowitz1724 5 лет назад
@@comradecommissar1945 you are only half right. Nobody uses trench warfare offensively anymore. Trenches have always been relevant in defensive roles since they provide cover for your troops.
@comradecommissar1945
@comradecommissar1945 5 лет назад
@Sam Sadowitz That's what I'm saying, they are used defensively but because of armored vehicles your never going to get that static World War 1 kind of deal with elaborate trench works and large infantry charges.
@TheSlasherJunkie
@TheSlasherJunkie 4 года назад
For those thinking that trenches are obsolete, we had trench training when I was in basic training for the US Army. We had the Urban Assault Course (important considering the use of urban warfare in WW2, Vietnam, and Iraq) the same day as the Night Infiltration Course- colloquially called NIC At Night. We didn’t dig that trench, though we eventually did a version of entrenchment at the Culminating Field Exercise, but we did climb out of one and low crawl for 250 feet. As for real cases of entrenchment, the Syrian Civil War, Donetsk War, and invasion of Northern Iraq all used entrenchment just in the last decade.
@mr.turtle4394
@mr.turtle4394 5 лет назад
Hey, man don’t question the power of Trench’s, that’s just rude *hops into a trench*
@helium-379
@helium-379 5 лет назад
@Willy Billy Good luck with that. Tanks are commonly accompanied by infantry. They wouldnt drive over trenches on their own unless they are retarded.
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 лет назад
A reason why a defensive line isn't solely constructed of trenches, they usually have supporting anti tank guns and artilleries and several machine gun emplacements and if you are a fan of multiple layers of defense lines
@billclark5055
@billclark5055 5 лет назад
@@fulcrum2951 You can also like up tanks behind a trench and can have air support cover them above.
@themetalstickman
@themetalstickman 5 лет назад
I love how even though the video explains that trenches are a common fixture of ground combat, and have been for millennia, people are still complaining in the comment about how it makes no sense.
@firekeeper3536
@firekeeper3536 5 лет назад
Because they've never been in a war. Some people thinks war as shooting plastic ducks with an air rifle in a fun fair.
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 лет назад
People tend to forget, when in combat any soldiers regardless of protection they are equipped with would prefer at least some form of cover rather than absolutely zero cover
@v.k.8153
@v.k.8153 5 лет назад
2:54 The clip cuts from old Revolutionary War maps back to Star Wars with the caption "three years later," at first I was like, "wait, what?"😂
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 лет назад
Yea haha I thought that would be a bit confusing
@TribuneAquila
@TribuneAquila 5 лет назад
Star wars did happen a long time ago
@johnwarosa8972
@johnwarosa8972 3 года назад
@@TribuneAquila true
@babtech
@babtech 5 лет назад
Nice video. At Geonosis, the clones were attacking. They were on the offensive. Trenches are a defensive measure. I mean, how do you take a trench with you, as you press forward? That’s what tanks are for, and they did use those.
@jamestanzer9188
@jamestanzer9188 5 лет назад
Not that their 'tanks' were very good at their job.
@tiagodecastro2929
@tiagodecastro2929 5 лет назад
Allen (or is it Alan?) mentions in the video "Everything Wrong With the Battle of Geonosis" that the GAR had air superiority at Geonosis. I don't think that it takes a formally educated military genius to realize that with air superiority against a fleeing enemy (the droid ships were trying to leave), the GAR had no rush to achieve victory. I may not be a trained tactician or strategist, but I dare say that if I were in command of an attacking force in a similar situation, I would deploy anti-air units to fire on the leaving ships and artillery to concentrate fire on the enemy's defending ground forces; then, I'd entrench my own infantry around the artillery/AA positions with armored support and wait for the enemy's forces to either deplete or surrender. (Not to mention that aside from this, I would deploy my superior air force to attack fleeing enemy ships as well, and provide air-to-ground support for the infantry wherever needed). If I really needed to advance or make a human wave assault in an open area with no cover, I'd at least use a smoke screen, or use available special forces to make covert maneuvers. The Jedi just brainlessly launched a human wave assault because they're used to melee combat-- up close and personal. In the film, the wave assault isn't portrayed as starting until the Jedi take command-- the clones just take defensive positions at the staging area until they're ordered into the wave assault. There was no need to charge the droids. It's just bad tactics (and I get the feeling that Lucas intended this to be the implication)
@TomCouger
@TomCouger 5 лет назад
You dig towards the enemy.
@lordnul1708
@lordnul1708 5 лет назад
As Tom above me just mentioned, you dig towards the enemy, as was outright mentioned in the video.
@Its-Av3rage
@Its-Av3rage 4 года назад
Tiago deCastro Yoda was the commander at the first battle of Geonosis and since he really hadn’t seen the clones in action he had them charge so the Jedi can get close. And they did have anti-air. They took down one of those smaller Death Star things. That’s part of the reason Yoda was kept away from large scale battles. He’s not necessarily bad but more aggressive.
@nathanjora7627
@nathanjora7627 5 лет назад
12:34 « The only weapon that will always be relevant in an infantry is the shovel » The death corps of Krieg are pleased, your world may be spared whenever we arrive, futur imperial citizen. The Empereur protects !
@thomasgodridge5945
@thomasgodridge5945 5 лет назад
War never changes...unless nanomachines become more developed. At that point, as Solid Snake declared; "War has changed."
@williamhart6081
@williamhart6081 5 лет назад
"NANOMACHINES, SON!"
@Blackfyre117
@Blackfyre117 5 лет назад
Always cheers me up when I see that you have posted a video . Thank you for doing what you do.
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 лет назад
thanks for watching!
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 лет назад
hey guys you can see the video right all i can see is green screen for some reason
@ethanguest3438
@ethanguest3438 5 лет назад
Hey, could you please do a video on the Evo troopers and why they were used?
@goldenpistol478
@goldenpistol478 5 лет назад
I saw it okay
@TaisharEnder
@TaisharEnder 5 лет назад
It looks good to me
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 лет назад
@Gsdlp/Alex you bastards lmao
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 лет назад
@@TaisharEnder cool thanks
@lukelee7967
@lukelee7967 5 лет назад
Who would think that The Patriot is extremely inaccurate. Aside for anybody with an understanding of history.
@MrBigCookieCrumble
@MrBigCookieCrumble 5 лет назад
Ikr? It's not like Mel Gibson is known for making grotesquely inaccurate historical movies or anything!
@beardedbjorn5520
@beardedbjorn5520 5 лет назад
The way you wrote that makes it seem that you think it is historically accurate btw
@MrBigCookieCrumble
@MrBigCookieCrumble 5 лет назад
@@beardedbjorn5520 no..?
@beardedbjorn5520
@beardedbjorn5520 5 лет назад
@@MrBigCookieCrumble yes. "Who would think that the Patriot was extremely inaccurate?" makes him look like he thinks its accurate
@TheParadoxGamer1
@TheParadoxGamer1 5 лет назад
@@beardedbjorn5520 sarcasm, sarcasm my dude.
@heinoobermeyer7566
@heinoobermeyer7566 5 лет назад
That scene from tlj.... The insane amount of cringe i feel at seeing those ww2 style bombers.... Just, why? Why would you work something so ineffective into the setting
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 лет назад
Yea my first thought was why do you have dumb bombs that seem to work with gravity. But apparently they are magnetic. Still completely unnecessary for them to get that close to launch
@Andrewza1
@Andrewza1 5 лет назад
ever thought they where meant for bombing ground targets and forced in to a role they where not built for
@crplsteve
@crplsteve 5 лет назад
@@Andrewza1 Then why bother with a pathetic bomber, have a corvette which can be overall better at doing the same job just outfitted to bomb from orbit, or heck even just use those turbolasers to OB an area, a lot less risky than having to set up for a bombing run.
@catmani2
@catmani2 5 лет назад
@@Andrewza1 And yet they had a bunker buster corvette in the fleet that could have easily destroyed the dreadnought and not been threatened by the TIE's but nope, needed to save that so that they could just let it get destroyed later in the film.
@abrandenburg10
@abrandenburg10 5 лет назад
Andrew Coetzee which makes sense since the resistance almost no resources. Those things are far from the worst plot hole in the last jedi
@thecossackcrusaderofholybr8448
@thecossackcrusaderofholybr8448 3 года назад
WW1 storm troopers (sturmtruppen): elite soldiers Star Wars storm troopers: misses at point blank range.
@MyelinProductions
@MyelinProductions 11 месяцев назад
Excellent Series of videos! Thank You! As a former US Army SF Officer I appreciate your attention to detail and accurate factual military real world history and assessments. We use "reality" in our own SciFi films. Well Done again! ~ Be Safe out there folks ~ Peace & Health to Us All.
@jameswitkowski6957
@jameswitkowski6957 5 лет назад
Ok, I loved how you threw in all of these references from many universes. Continue doing that please
@scottsanders4589
@scottsanders4589 5 лет назад
2:32 I live there! There are Earth and forts all over the place here! There's one not too far from my house actually. Pretty much right in my backyard. I feel lucky to have been born in such a historically relevant place
@MothMizzle
@MothMizzle 5 лет назад
7:18 - black Union soldiers had drilled extensively for the battle of the crater. But at the last minute, the black troops were replaced by white soldiers untrained in the specifics of what to expect. They ran into the crater and we're slaughtered. That's what happened at that battle. General Burnside, who had planned the battle and selected the black troops, was disgraced by the failure and never commanded troops again.
@chad_bro_chill
@chad_bro_chill 5 лет назад
You left out that it was General Meade, not Burnside, that swapped out the troops last minute for political points and deserved the bulk of the blame, and that Congress's war committee agreed following the war. Burnside *was* disgraced, but eventually cleared.
@Assassinus2
@Assassinus2 5 лет назад
@@chad_bro_chill To be fair, Meade was concerned about the possibility that Ferrero's division of black troops would be slaughtered in the vanguard, thereby giving the impression that they had been used as cannon fodder. Though that argument is largely put paid to by the fact that they were slaughtered when they were committed to support the initial failed assault on the Crater.
@theBlack--
@theBlack-- 5 лет назад
Is their actually a Stalingrad in Star wars
@imppro
@imppro 5 лет назад
*Is there actually a Stalingrad in Star Wars?
@MundoEcchi
@MundoEcchi 5 лет назад
Ryloth siege was kinda of one. From Jedi POV
@theBlack--
@theBlack-- 5 лет назад
@@MundoEcchi i disagree I mean a real city Stalingrad
@DimoB8
@DimoB8 5 лет назад
The closest thing I could think of is the battle of Jabiim.
@ratbat1072
@ratbat1072 5 лет назад
*there
@commandervex1626
@commandervex1626 5 лет назад
A Wise Guardsman once said: Trenches win Wars, change my mind
@Halogodzilla12343
@Halogodzilla12343 5 лет назад
Also faith in the emperor.
@MrBigCookieCrumble
@MrBigCookieCrumble 5 лет назад
FOAR DE EMPRAH!!!
@8maduce502
@8maduce502 5 лет назад
The maginot line
@nox5555
@nox5555 5 лет назад
@@8maduce502 worked fine
@8maduce502
@8maduce502 5 лет назад
nox5555 not really
@RolfHartmann
@RolfHartmann 5 лет назад
Something sci fi should show more of is trenches with overhead cover, and/or camouflage. Overhead cover is particularly needed against both plunging weapons (like artillery) and aircraft (extremely relevant in sci fi) and would help explain why overwhelming air/space superiority is not pressed or does not decide the battle. Iwo Jima is an excellent example of a ground battle where digging in with primitive tools compensated for a tremendous material advantage by the other side. I understand wanting to make things more open for dramatic purposes, but I would suggest one side using such strong-points but sortieing from them to engage in fluid battles which confuse enemy supporting fires. It actually annoys me how little used arty/air support is in these as they can provide plenty of dramatic moments for the heroes. A great example of the different elements coming together is the attack on the howitzer emplacements on D-Day in Band of Brothers as the heroes have an objective which is far more important than just some enemy soldiers, they have to use tactics and supporting weapons (like their own machine-guns) and don't simply have to take and hold as they are part of a vastly larger battle.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 5 лет назад
The Star Wars universe is obsessed with direct-fire, That's why the Y-Wing was replaced with a tugboat full of bombs, and running in first gear all day. To teach people that once again, it is direct fire, or nothing.
@gwyndolin1536
@gwyndolin1536 5 лет назад
I think you would of made a great history teacher. Luring us in with talk of Wars in the Stars and then teaching us earth history in an entertaining way.
@Brimthen
@Brimthen 8 месяцев назад
At 3:30 the song is called Illusion - Coma Svensson. A homie of mine has been trying to find out the song for 3 years. He hit me up and I used my mixer to isolate the music from the loud guy. We started googling lyrics we thought we heard with no success for 6 hours. But then we started excluding popular songs and found the original. Lots of years of work and just a bit of tism and we got it!
@VSO_Gun_Channel
@VSO_Gun_Channel 5 лет назад
Very well researched video.
@jonathanmielke8657
@jonathanmielke8657 4 года назад
Quick Caveat on the US Civil War, most Union forces by the end of 1862-63, had been issued with rifles muskets such as the Springfield 61 of British made Enfield. So rifled muskets fairly early on, for most part out numbered smooth bore percussion cap conversions.
@woodywoodsfurd6296
@woodywoodsfurd6296 5 лет назад
Bro, you used star wars to teach people history. I respect you
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 лет назад
You should check out the video where I give relationship advice using Star Wars and the Jedi code
@woodywoodsfurd6296
@woodywoodsfurd6296 5 лет назад
@@GenerationTech is there anything you can't use starwars to explain?
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 лет назад
Star Wars it surrounds us
@woodywoodsfurd6296
@woodywoodsfurd6296 5 лет назад
@@GenerationTech true
@Daniel509476
@Daniel509476 5 лет назад
You guys are killing it with these videos! Thanks for making my drive to work awesome!
@redenginner
@redenginner 5 лет назад
“The best offense is a good defense.”~Rogal Dorn
@eddielash
@eddielash 5 лет назад
I am amazed by what you and Ben do, even more so by this. You make history fans of Star Wars fans, and Star Wars fans of history fans. Personally, I'm both, and I love drawing parallels. Star Wars is a gateway which you guys kick open for the rest of us. Respect.
@Peregrin3
@Peregrin3 5 лет назад
one reason that orbital bombardment is rarely used is because of the use of planetary shields like at Hoth.
@stevbarto
@stevbarto 3 года назад
Fantastic military quote I heard: "As long as dirt keeps stopping bullets, we'll use it." These tactics aren't going anywhere.
@Sam-oh1ck
@Sam-oh1ck 5 лет назад
Was Allen in the military or just a military history buff? I noticed he has the most military-related commentary in the channel.
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 3 года назад
Great video, but you got one thing wrong: the American Civil War was mainly fought with muzzle loaded rifles, not muskets. The two most common guns were the Model 1861 Springfield Rifle and the Enfield Rifle.
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 3 года назад
Regardless of where or how you fight, cover is useful, and trenches are excellent cover.
@Greg-yu1os
@Greg-yu1os 5 лет назад
At 10:04 You should mention that on Hoth the empire had to use a ground assault and not orbital bombardment because of the shield generators. The bombardment would take too long to overpower the shield in their opinion so they made an assault on the generator in order to allow them to use bombardment.
@jgr7487
@jgr7487 5 лет назад
one thing I love about GenTech is that Allan being a true journalist, he knows about this shit he talks about way better than most SW tubers
@DoctorRobertKelso
@DoctorRobertKelso 5 лет назад
Great exploration of trenches! I’ve served in the Army Infantry for almost a decade and the trench clear is still preached as the pinnacle achievement for a trained infantry unit.
@eddielash
@eddielash 5 лет назад
Respect to you
@drivernephi7494
@drivernephi7494 Год назад
“As long as the ground keeps stopping bullets were gonna keep digging 3ft down”
@jeanlukeazraelazul8321
@jeanlukeazraelazul8321 5 лет назад
out of all your videos I loved this one the most I am a Big War History fan and I just loved all that you covered
@milesmartig5603
@milesmartig5603 5 лет назад
This battle education reminds me of my time learning at Kamino...
@danelisslow3269
@danelisslow3269 4 года назад
RIP Hevy
@Bramble451
@Bramble451 5 лет назад
I don't understand why you guys don't have at least 500K subscribers. Your Star Wars content is awesome!
@HotPinkst17
@HotPinkst17 5 лет назад
Trench warfare was the hallmark of WW1... not WW2 which was characterized by combined arms and mobility.
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 лет назад
Trenches still play a role mostly suited for defensive operations. Whilst tanks can bypass the trenches but if the infantry fails to catch up to protect the tanks, those tanks are screwed
@nox5555
@nox5555 5 лет назад
Trenches are a very good way of fighting with bad soldiers. combined arms were not invented in WW2, they were invented in the 1620s and first used in the 1630s. the problem with combined arms is that you need well trained and motivated soldiers and officers.
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 лет назад
Better to have at least some form of cover rather than none
@PaddyInf
@PaddyInf 5 лет назад
Trenches are still used, but not in the same way. They tend to be 2-4 man structures used in defence, and are primarily used for protection from artillery or air strike. Getting below ground is still the most effective protection from explosives and frag unless you have a direct hit. Many of the Cold War strategies were based around lines of positional defence using trenches.
@BrianEspinozaOfficial
@BrianEspinozaOfficial 5 лет назад
That scene was so gritty I wish there was more of it
@JohnnyElRed
@JohnnyElRed 5 лет назад
Well, there are moments in Star Wars canon that try to give and excuse as to why orbital bombardment was not used. In Hoth, for example, the rebels had that ion cannon to keep the imperial navy at bay, and provide an excape route for the transports. So, the Stardestroyers never could get in range to bombard the base. In the Clone Wars, the republican ships in the liberation of Ryloth could not land at first due to heavy anti air weaponry. In Rebels, when Thrawn discovers the Phoenix Squadron secret base, his first order is to bombard, but they used shield generators. But why he didn't keep plummeting the shield until it was down, I will never understand.
@fly672
@fly672 5 лет назад
On Hoth they also had shields so tough that bombardment would do nothing
@fly672
@fly672 5 лет назад
Becouse canon Thrawn is empty shell of what he once was (in old EU)
@mroppossum4100
@mroppossum4100 5 лет назад
The Thrawn books have him being pretty cool.
@petrsukenik9266
@petrsukenik9266 5 лет назад
maybe ship would use all its munition before shild energy is down
@JohnnyElRed
@JohnnyElRed 5 лет назад
@Star-Forger Jynn Ah, yes. That part slipped my mind entirely. Sorry.
@tropicalblizzards
@tropicalblizzards 5 лет назад
Since The Empire Strikes Back was actually a good movie.. They explained that orbital bombardment wouldn't work on Hoth because of the rebels using a shield generator.
@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536
@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536 4 года назад
James also they were trying to capture rebels
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 5 лет назад
Great video and glad you did this and its cool that star wars use old tactics.
@brockreynolds2405
@brockreynolds2405 5 лет назад
Hadn't considered the lack in indirect fire weaponry but this is probably a major factor not considered enough with this question. Good insight
@shayneyeaman7769
@shayneyeaman7769 5 лет назад
How dare you not use Ron Perlman's "War, War never changes".. Lol
@matthewkuchinski1769
@matthewkuchinski1769 5 лет назад
I salute you sir for another successful video on Star Wars' military history and on the inspiration behind the lore.
@wbnc66
@wbnc66 5 лет назад
The armor value of a meter or three of soil is far higher than the armor value of your skull, chest, meaty bits... Couple of points on the tech: Orbital bombardment was NOT overlooked...The rebels and other forces had wide area ray shielding and large anti ship guns. such as the rebels Ion Cannon which took down a destroyer with a single salvo. they could keep a star destroyer out of firing position or useless against shielded targets..an infantry assault would be needed to take down shields and anti-ship batteries before the fleet could move into firing position. The AT-ATs were not that vulnerable... yeah the rebels took them out with tow cables...but evidently they were only able to slow the assault...slightly, very slightly....but the AT-ATs with their superior firepower, armor, and most importantly an elevated firing angle that allowed them to shoot over terrain features and low hills slaughtered the rebel defenders by the bucketload.
@MrBigCookieCrumble
@MrBigCookieCrumble 5 лет назад
Exactly, i mean the target for the initial imperial ground assault WAS the shield generators afterall.
@wbnc66
@wbnc66 5 лет назад
and from Vader's reaction it seems the He wanted to jump in very close and hit ground targets with heavy firepower as soon as they could, to avoid giving them time to bring up shields or power up Heavy Ground batteries.
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 лет назад
@@wbnc66 one of his officers was an idiot that ruined the plan
@wbnc66
@wbnc66 5 лет назад
considering how many troopers that idiot of an officer got killed and how many rebels had the chance to escape because of him...yeah I can see why he got force choked.
@Calvin_Coolage
@Calvin_Coolage 5 лет назад
Actually, at least in Legends, the AT-AT was considered a joke vehicle that the Empire only used because it had a hardon for shows of force.
@jeremiahthompson9367
@jeremiahthompson9367 4 года назад
Actually during the siege of Yorktown, allied troops never assaulted the earthworks around Yorktown itself, but rather the fortified outposts designated Redoubts #9 & #10. These were taken at night time, using unloaded muskets and fixed bayonets. Once the redoubts were captured the allies were able to move their artillery closer and fire point blank(150 yards) into Yorktown from three directions. Cornwallis tried to escape across the York River, and the first wave of boats made it across but were then lost while returning when a bad storm came in, and the British were forced to surrender. I lived ten miles from the battlefield throughout most of my life, and spent every waking moment I could there when I was a kid.
@goldenpistol478
@goldenpistol478 5 лет назад
Got here before 10 minutes Feels good
@Weeping_Willoe
@Weeping_Willoe 5 лет назад
About orbital bombardment, in the Hoth and Krait examples Echo Base has those details of a massive shield generator necessitating the ground invasion,of the base before orbital bombardment could begin and a massive anti-ship installation that provides covering fire that effectively suppressed multiple star destroyers, and the bunker on Krait was a similar position the Rebellion had originally selected specifically for being hardened against attack from capital ships. Echo base though seems the better example of how star wars ground combat bridges with space combat, since ground based weapons and shields like the rebels' on Hoth and imperial equivalents elsewhere seem to generally be a hard counter to their ship mounted equivalents.
@9.2.197
@9.2.197 5 лет назад
cuz it Looks awsome REEEEEE
@rtfm2986
@rtfm2986 5 лет назад
Holy crap, that was a photo of my old platoon when we went to Poland. Killer Troop 3/2 CR. Good times!
@warhammernerd52Daxx-Lorenzo898
12:23-12:27 Imagine if that projected things which made the machines shut down for no reason
@sterbi9722
@sterbi9722 4 года назад
Average viewer: I was expecting a lot more Star Wars Me: can this last forever
@chrisg4314
@chrisg4314 5 лет назад
People who dislike are dolphins
@t65bx25
@t65bx25 5 лет назад
🐬
@scruffylookingNerfherder5742
@scruffylookingNerfherder5742 5 лет назад
And there are secretly Gungan agents set buy Darth Binks
@weezkee5241
@weezkee5241 5 лет назад
I like dolphins /:
@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536
@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536 4 года назад
Christopher Guilkey or xenos
@masonpyle5929
@masonpyle5929 5 лет назад
Great video being a guy who loves history and Star Wars, this video basically was the historical references in Star Wars.
@karlthetechpriest2905
@karlthetechpriest2905 5 лет назад
Imperial Tactician: Sir, the enemy has fortified themselves in a series of earthworks. What should we do? Imperial Officer: Hmm...send the troops. *takes massive casualties Imperial Officer: If only we had a weapon to destroy these trenches and ovoid these casualties. Me telling angrily at the screen: JUST BOMB THEM FROM ORBIT YOU IDIOT!
@redMrCrayon
@redMrCrayon 5 лет назад
Shuttershield yeeeet
@aneworder6869
@aneworder6869 5 лет назад
And bunkers
@karlthetechpriest2905
@karlthetechpriest2905 5 лет назад
shut up you two, i meant when it was really obvious to use orbital bombardment. I acknowledge you cant use it every time i just get mad when they should use it
@karlthetechpriest2905
@karlthetechpriest2905 5 лет назад
@Nacho I know right
@Wasthere73
@Wasthere73 5 лет назад
Idf didnt work in wwi
@phillipfernandez5533
@phillipfernandez5533 5 лет назад
Thanks for the information and video evidence I needed to complete my argument that trenches are still used and will be used in the future. I always knew it was a viable defensive tactic.
@Josiahk.g
@Josiahk.g 5 лет назад
I love Generation Tech, You Guys alway's cover the best topics, Your the Best Allen l...Humanity First ✊ United Against Aliens and Dolphin's
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 лет назад
#humanityfirst
@apathymanthemundane4165
@apathymanthemundane4165 5 лет назад
huh, I'm reminded of a piece of wisdom from another, much smaller, youtuber. "We always bring the last war's lessons into this one."
@ethanguest3438
@ethanguest3438 5 лет назад
That trench scene was the only cool scene in solo.
@everythingisaywillgiveyouc435
@everythingisaywillgiveyouc435 5 лет назад
@Thomas Hoffman he's on the fanboy wagon.. ;)
@ethanguest3438
@ethanguest3438 5 лет назад
@Neon Dawn actually no, it just didn't feel like star wars to me, I didn't get that vibe from it that I did get from empire and ROTS
@ethanguest3438
@ethanguest3438 5 лет назад
@Neon Dawn I assume I'm not allowed to have my own opinion on this then, if you liked the film, I have no problems with that, but I didn't, that's just my personal opinion on it.
@ethanguest3438
@ethanguest3438 5 лет назад
@Neon Dawn you seemed to be thinking that I was just disliking it because the majority didn't like it, and that I was just jumping on the band wagon
@TheLegend-xt6cf
@TheLegend-xt6cf 5 лет назад
Idiot The train scene the Kessel run are great
@MakilHeru
@MakilHeru 5 лет назад
Clever way to work military history into Star Wars. Well done!
@thatrandomguy8157
@thatrandomguy8157 5 лет назад
I'm just saying I thought that they were the death korps of krieg from WH40K in this scene
@mateodavidgutierrezgonzale6556
I loved the trenches scene because it made me think of what a Warhammer 40k Imperial Guard movie could be like.
@kloppi0077
@kloppi0077 5 лет назад
Am I the only one who first thought about Genreal Trech fro Clone Wars as he read the title??
@eannamcnamara9338
@eannamcnamara9338 Год назад
I don't remember who said it, but some commander said something along the lines of "we will stop using trenches the day dirt can't stop bullets"
@officerchad1213
@officerchad1213 5 лет назад
What is the best counter to trenches? I’ve always thought it was a massive artillery bombardment that completely destroys the frontline trenches. Like the Soviets did vs the Germans
@danielhennessy1900
@danielhennessy1900 5 лет назад
Poison gas.
@officerchad1213
@officerchad1213 5 лет назад
Daniel Hennessy gas masks?
@danielhennessy1900
@danielhennessy1900 5 лет назад
@@officerchad1213 good point...however, I have not really seen many gas masks in star wars.
@danielhennessy1900
@danielhennessy1900 5 лет назад
During ww1, when poison gas was first introduced the first gas mask was a cloth that had been moistened and held over the nose and mouth
@officerchad1213
@officerchad1213 5 лет назад
stockart whiteman we are talking about real life
@kevinwise1997
@kevinwise1997 5 лет назад
A history lesson and a star wars video? Five stars sir!
@casbot71
@casbot71 5 лет назад
Off topic, but why didn't the First Order issue Phasma style armour as general issue ? It made the wearer far more resistant to blaster fire and the First Order were more into quality over quantity (except when it came to officer training and tactics). It would be scary to face off against forces completely equipped with mirrored armour. First it's blinding to look at and hard to focus on. And surprisingly harder to pick out in a split second than white armour against a coloured background because it reflects the surroundings. And then when you shoot, there's a very good chance that your shot just bounces off. White armour is no longer intimidating to the general populace because it's the uniform of a defeated side that were cannon fodder. "Oh look, is that some sort of Stormtrooper ? I killed over a dozen of those back in the day" [Pegs a few blaster bolts from a pistol, First Order trooper falls down] "Yup, die just as easily". The only possible reason for not equipping all troopers with blaster reflecting armour is if it required say a lot of digital post processing to get the reflections right in propaganda films. And that's just helping the enemy.
@jasonskeans3327
@jasonskeans3327 5 лет назад
Cost
@casbot71
@casbot71 5 лет назад
@@jasonskeans3327 Cheaper than losing troopers that you raised from childhood (kidnapped) and have spent 10 plus years indoctrinating. Also it greatly increases combat effectiveness and intimidation if the vast majority of shots just bounces off them.
@tristanbackup2536
@tristanbackup2536 5 лет назад
Mandalorian iron is'nt cheap.
@tommyjackson5570
@tommyjackson5570 5 лет назад
Phasma’s armor was scavenged from the remains of Palpatine’s yacht - there’s only so much of it
@Colonel_Overkill
@Colonel_Overkill 5 лет назад
Orbital bombardment and defensive formations were always my favorite maneuver in empire at war. Nothing was better than seeing formations vanish under a bomber formation or capital ships loving caress.
@UncleMikeDrop
@UncleMikeDrop 5 лет назад
Air and space superiority is almost always a factor in a universe that has starships. If you think about it, Star Wars technology outpaces Star Wars tactics by centuries if not millennia. They can't even use the aesthetics excuse anymore because the Expanse has proven that long range combat/tactics can look cool. You'd think the Rebel Alliance of all factions would have a vested interest in developing long range weapons and tactics.
@Wasthere73
@Wasthere73 5 лет назад
You still need boots on the ground to successfully occupy land. Long range weapons are nice, but you will still need close quarter engagements
@blackfang101
@blackfang101 5 лет назад
@@Wasthere73 depends entirely on the objective, if the rebel alliance just wanted to say, cripple the entire empire's military ship production, you wouldn't need boots on the ground for that, a really large artillery cannon could reduce the Kuat yards to dust. The rebel alliance was more or less like a terror organisation, the goal was to make the fight untenable for the empire to pursue, not to "occupy land" The rebel alliance was way too small to really occupy land but they were big enough to have hideouts. However, if the empire found a hideout they would mostly disappear if they had the chance to do so. The only reason they remained fighting was because they didn't have the chance to run away or they had something that they really needed to defend for a while. Still in general they do need boots on the ground, but it wouldn't take a genius to just buy a few weapons and old pieces of armor on the black markets, you wouldn't really need to invest too much for quality gear, remember a massive galactic war had just ended, and if there is one thing there was a lot of it was military surplus, and serious quality gear at that. Both from both sides of the war, but also from the various planetary militias that weren't really directly involved but whom decided to not be entirely defenseless during the war in which they all most likely vastly increased the sizes of their garrisons only to later having to downsize as the stormtroopers took over garrison duties almost everywhere. They could probably outfit their troops pretty well if they didn't get every person a matching armor and weapon, as well as trying to keep a mostly homogeneous fleet. There was a firesale on seperatist ships on the black markets after all, but they needed the brand new mon-calamari cruisers which were better, but they could've probably gotten a two for one deal on providences and donuts (lucrehulks), at least they got some of the filler ships right from the planetary militias downsizing. To be honest, with the way the rebel alliance was spending its income whatever it is and wherever they got it, it is seriously no wonder that they were always loosing everywhere, and those few victories they gained was just a precursor for another setback.
@Wasthere73
@Wasthere73 5 лет назад
@@blackfang101 Yes depends on the objective, but to ensure control over a territory, you need an occupational force to properly stomp out resistance.
@CokaRolla
@CokaRolla 5 лет назад
We went from the romans to the revolutionary war to the civil war to Star Wars then to fallout. I literally feel like you put every interest of mine in one video lol
@miguelcastrokohler4834
@miguelcastrokohler4834 5 лет назад
@GenerationTech how about dogfighting tactics ?
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 лет назад
Missiles in space is more deadly than in atmosphere, yet in multiple fictions they function exactly the same regardless
@smokingunstudios6474
@smokingunstudios6474 5 лет назад
I’m glad I made military history nerd And no I thing or two about this sort of stuff makes it more interesting to learn even more
@somepersonmcsomebody7501
@somepersonmcsomebody7501 5 лет назад
first to say burgers are good in the this comment section.
@serduncan6933
@serduncan6933 5 лет назад
To miss an easy shoot on the protagonists
@Jeff-tw7jk
@Jeff-tw7jk 5 лет назад
First ;)
@bigc6818
@bigc6818 5 лет назад
It's a simple spell but quite unbreakable.
@SimplySinify
@SimplySinify 3 года назад
The comparisons to the American Civil War is spot on. I would like to add something to it. The complex networks of trenches seen during the later half of the civil war as well as weapon advancements such as trap door rifles and Gatling Gun were absolutely a herald of the changing times. All of the horribleness that we would see in the first world war, I believe, was first seen on such a large scale in the American Civil war and contributed greatly to why the US army divisions that went to Europe for WW1 performed so well.
@centurian318
@centurian318 5 лет назад
Disney needs to hire “technical advisors” to educate them on modern combined arms tactics. A universe that has faster than light technology, directed energy weapons, and can use the force to bring down ships in orbit, are still using Napoleonic tactics?!? It’s called lazy writing
@erikthomsen4768
@erikthomsen4768 5 лет назад
lazy or crazy? Why not both.
@Gamespud94
@Gamespud94 5 лет назад
The least they could do is be a bit creative about it. Dogfights between space fighters are one thing because at least they're cool even if they make no sense logically, but those bombers... just.. why? Such an obvious replica of B-17s except they somehow move even slower and with absolutely no defenses.. if you want to have WW2-esque combat at least try and make an effort..
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 лет назад
Star wars has been doing so even before disney
@kuru8152
@kuru8152 5 лет назад
Yeah, technical advisors are needed so that they can make the films more realistic so we can then complain about them being too different.
@Watakaiki
@Watakaiki 5 лет назад
perhaps the bombers in TLJ were not in fact "bombers". perhaps they were retrofitted from another purpose. maybe they were a delivery vehicle for active volcano suppression.'ala jj's star trek 2', essentially a volcano fire truck to deliver a "freezing device".Remember the Resistance is in the same financial boat as was the Rebellion.
@starbucksqdoba
@starbucksqdoba 5 лет назад
Combining history and Star Wars was pretty badass. I'd be interested in a series where you tie in aspects inspired by history on Earth.. unless you already have???
@-sergeantdave1934
@-sergeantdave1934 5 лет назад
IfStar Wars was a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away dosen't that makes World War II tactics Star Wars tactics.
@Sameson223VIDS
@Sameson223VIDS 5 лет назад
Wonderful research, accurate facts, and great connections. Wow 10/10. That’s coming from a history of warfare major
@josephmarciniak1997
@josephmarciniak1997 5 лет назад
Because the writers of solo don't understand how orbital bombardment makes trench warfare completely useless and obsolete
@plainplane7580
@plainplane7580 5 лет назад
I'm assuming the Empire isn't on a planet of mud for no reason, there must be some kind of political or economic reason for controlling the planet and not just blasting it into smithereens. Also artillery and armored vehicles were supposed to make trench warfare obsolete but the Eastern Front of WW2 says otherwise.
@erikthomsen4768
@erikthomsen4768 5 лет назад
I would like to make two notes. First: The trench lines are their to protect the empire's mining operations. That is also why the cave people of Mimban is on the surface. The locals wanna stop the empire destroying the planet even further. Second: How on any earth are you gonna hit anyone with naval artillery, if CAN'T see them. The only thing the empire is gonna destroy; is the resources they came for. Three: Have a nice day. Goodbye.
@tristanbackup2536
@tristanbackup2536 5 лет назад
Defensive Trench warfare tactics will never go obsolete.
@diepssuarez2676
@diepssuarez2676 5 лет назад
Ehhhh. No. It is trench warfare, but what would bombarding do? Those Confederate soldiers are darting around like the Viet Kong. What would bombarding from a ship do to a forest? Also, bombarding would destroy imperial troops. Even if the bombarding worked, you would need to land troops to secure the planet. That means the Confederates, not fighting in blocks would just kill them. That's what happened on Mimbam.
@bartistclord1916
@bartistclord1916 5 лет назад
I think everyone here is missing the mark, 1. Trenches save lives in REAL combat. 2. We don't use space fleets like they have in Star Wars, so you can't really compare real war to a fantasy movie. 3. The makers of Star Wars don't care about canon, Don't care for realism, don't care about logic and don't care what ANY of the fans think. EVERY fan theory is better than what they will put in the movie. From what I saw in Solo, the empire was fighting shadows and shooting at noises, there was no enemy shown on screen. So orbital bombardment would be useless since you can't target imaginary things. (except SouthPark Imagination Land)
@Bustermachine
@Bustermachine 4 года назад
IIRC the rebel infantry defending Hoth were actually Finish or Swedish (can't remember which) infantry on loan as extras. The film crews just told them to dig in however they thought would be most effective against a hypothetical assault.
@hac3359
@hac3359 5 лет назад
The Republic used trenches in the Battle of Umbara. Well...until they were electrocuted by little alien scumbags
@deltawaffles6015
@deltawaffles6015 5 лет назад
This is a freaking incredible argument. It actually makes a lot of sense given the technology we see in that universe contrary to our own, requiring a bit of a paradigm shift that not many are prepared to make
@jamescallahan7000
@jamescallahan7000 4 года назад
I'd love to see more live-action content of the Imperial Army. Lets see faces, grittiness, heroism, and defeat. "Never have I felt more vile than standing victorious on a battlefield."
@12stack73
@12stack73 Год назад
Go watch andor
@georgeecheveste6545
@georgeecheveste6545 3 года назад
"We're bringing civilization to these people" (explosions in the background) The trench warfare scene was great. It never occurred to me that there were fierce ground battles involving something other than Stormtroopers. I always believed that the Empire was soo powerful that it took what it wanted and anyone that resisted was eliminated with little effort. I wish I could have seen more
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