Ye, I mean you'd have thought "do they have it planned out for all 3 films" would be the obvious yes answer, but turns out nope they just flew by the seat of their pants as they decided planning things out in advance was a suckers game.
Back then we were still looking at the MCU which came with a carefully built world and fun stories. It wasn’t a bad assumption. But now looking back, I’m laughing How funny it was
Imagine making a trilogy one movie at a time... with different directors and completely unwritten overarching storylines.... how are these people even in a job???
It's so funny how they keep referring to the casting of Episode 8 for their predictions ... as if Disney had planned anything ahead of time for this whole trilogy XD
Sure they did. "Make ALL the money" is a plan, and focus testing is how you execute it. The "artistic vision" and " audience enjoyment" are just a coincidence if they happen. I mean, investors gotta know they're getting their money back, so everything else be damned.
@@dodojesus4529 The only good thing about all of this, was how comically chicken shit Rise of Skywalker was. For as much as I dont like the last Jedi, I would have respected episode 9 if it had stuck with what 8 had set up. But naw, we get the biggest, most pathetic back down that has EVER been.
Rich Evans in 2015: I like Star Wars, but I'm not the _biggest_ fan of it Rich Evans in 2018: as someone who *_hates_* Star Wars, I thought Solo was pretty good
I'm really curious why this comment has 800 likes, what is it supposed to be highlighting? Rich likes the bounty hunter stuff, not the Jedi stuff, it makes perfect sense.
9:57 Not only did you guys predict TFA two months before release, but you also seemed to have predicted aspects of The Last Jedi two years before release.
If they're milking lore, wth won't they milk stuff like the Thrawn-trilogy? "Tables have turned and now the outer reaches of the empire are fighting a counter-revolutionary guerilla war against the restored republic" makes so much more sense in every conceivable way than "Super death star destroys galactic capital from the other side of the fucking galaxy because convenient. Now they're on top again or whatever". I honestly believe they did that because they thought the audience too stupid to understand the aftermath of a successful revolution.
"Luke knows he's the last Jedi, he's going to go into hiding and he is perfectly willing to let the whole force thing fall into myth" - Rich Evans, Prognosticator of the Last Jedi.
It's actually kinda plausible that Rian Johnson saw this and got the idea from Rich. Imagine Rich Evans being causally responsible for the death knell of Star Wars.
Well.... General Grievous did build a hospital for singularity engine survivors but R2, Obi-wan and Anakin blew it up. Also killed about 50 people in that control tower. Anyone for Applebee's?
Guys, come on. This is just super-advanced trolling. The reason that they predicted exactly how the movie would go is because Space Cop told them the plot, obviously. He's from the future, The future of space. Outer space.
+Spindles15 it's true... all of it: the midichlorians, Anakin creating 3PO, Jar jar being the key to all of this, space politics and a cartoony Yoda-
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+Spindles15 You mean, he was referring to things he never saw? I mean, when they ask Han Solo on the Falcon if "it's true" they don't mean all the thigs he did with the Falcon?
This is sad. Most of the actual movie is predicted here, and the few points that you guys don't get right would have been a million times more interesting that what actually happened.
+LeeboProductions Word. That laugh at 12:20 was gold. But I reckon I could also use it to scare the shit out of people if I played it late at night in a dark room... what a multi-purpose laugh!
My prediction: George Lucas is the actual Kylo Ren, you can see that in the torture scene from the trailer with Oscar Isaac, he's actually showing him what he changed in the Remastered Edition. His plan is to turn every single life organism into CGI, make them so dense, where each image will count.
@@FeebleBird903 Certainly not a lot of it because it was only after TFA came out that Disney gave him total freedom over the continuity since nothing was actually planned BTS.
Father Gascoigne Nah he was done with the writing process before TFA was released to the public. Rian even asked JJ to change TFA so that BB-8 stayed with Poe, and R2 went with Rey at the end of the movie, because in the original script, BB-8 was going with Rey instead of R2. Also Luke was originally going to be surrounded by huge floating rocks to demonstrate his force ability during his reveal in TFA, but they removed those because of the direction Rian went in TLJ.
With regards to Vader: “If things gets desperate, they’ll clone him and he’ll return.” So close, guys... Things did get desperate. And a major villain from the OT did get cloned. It just wasn’t Vader.
I'm with Mike that this will be a point-for-point remake of the "A New Hope" story with some nostalgia tossed in there. Though I disagree on the Ray thing. I think Ray and Kylo are twins and she is Han's daughter and when Han dies she gets a case of the cry-babies. That would explain the strong emotional connection after only 2 acts of film.
I bet you're right, Obama is gonna make this movie a complete copy of a new hope. He really done did it this time. Big fan of your work man, keep doing what you do.
I do have a question of you don't mind me asking. How long have you been watching these hack frauds? I'm a fairly recent subscriber of yours, but I swear to God I've seen you in the comments of RLM vids before I knew who you were.
LAST JEDI SPOILERS 9:57 "Luke is trying to hide this stuff" "deliberate attempt to pass the jedi into myth" "he knows he's the last jedi" "he goes to hiding" "Luke might be a villain" "he was half way there" 13:40 "What if the arch of the new trilogy was "Luke is redeemed at the end end"?" (Not completely dark side or at the end end, but he is redeemed at the end of The Last Jedi) 15:24 "We'll just call them the rebels cause fuck it" 41:40 "Somebody is going to be a force ghost in this trilogy" What's that on the ground over there? Is that the script?
42:53 Rich: "JJ is a huge Star Wars fan… why wouldn't he want to be around - why wouldn't he commit to all 3 unless there is something stupid going on behind the scenes?" ✅ NAILED IT 43:05 Mike: "I would assume that everything is fairly well planned out." ❌ SWING AND A MISS
@@jaysmith8505 I honestly don't even blame Rian Johnson for how The Last Jedi turned out when you have JJ who gave him all of these questions with no answers. lol
He was wrong. Star wars is about a Darth Maul robot top half and a Darth Maul robot bottom half fighting each other with twenty lightsabers while Obi Wan is stuck in the middle.
Stabbity Joe no, it wasn't established that they were so close to one another that you could see their destruction with the naked eye. What sort of orbit do these planet's maintain? How are they so close together? How are they far enough apart, yet still sit within the "Goldilocks zone?" Can you see Venus or Mars with the naked eye? How do they appear to your unaided eye?
Stabbity Joe Abrams did the same thing in the Star Trek reboot, having some random ice world be within eye shot of Vulcan, enabling Spock to see its destruction. And clearly you are incapable of grasping this very simple point; it might be a fantasy movie as far as the force is concerned, but overtly stupid decisions, such as the one I pointed out, are quite jarring, and are actually difficult to ignore if you have half a functioning brain.
tightlypackedcoil it's not to do with the functioning of a brain, more with your lack of ability to detach yourself from reality when watching a film. It's a visual medium and it creates more of an emotional response from the characters than just hearing about the destruction
Rey knowing where the Millenium Falcon is under some rubble and her fixing it for months or years in secret would have been a WAAAAAAAAAY better angle than it just lying around unguarded in the town. It would have explained why she can fly and fix it, for which there is zero explanation now.
@Jesus Christ Luke was an established pilot that would spend his free time flying a civilian craft around Tatooine, with his friends. You know.. the whole "bullseye womprats" line? That was from his T-16 Skyhopper, not just roaming around the desert with a varmint rifle. He also dreamed of joining the Imperial Academy to become a pilot, and fly around the galaxy going on adventures. Thus, he was training with a civilian craft, the Skyhopper, while his uncle was nagging him about staying on Tatooine to help the farm. There were multiple references to Luke's father being a great pilot too, so he also yearned to follow in his missing father's footsteps. So the movie did establish Luke's abilities as a pilot/training he did while a kid on Tatooine. Just before heading out to attack the Death Star, he even bumps into an old friend of his from Tatooine: Biggs. Biggs reassures everyone that Luke was the best pilot on Tatooine, and they'd be flying together again just like old times. So again, the whole point of Luke's character was that he was a young promising pilot yearning to leave the boring old moisture farm and go on an adventure. In a spaceship. That he'd be piloting. To do this, he was going to join the Imperial Academy as a pilot (Biggs supposedly left to join the Academy before Luke... adding to his frustrations of being held back). Hence why he got himself a Skyhopper and spent his time zipping around Tatooine using womprats as practice to get in flight hours while "wasting" time at Uncle Owen's farm. What did Rey do? She was just a scavenger only shown piloting some type of speeder before hopping into the Falcon. There was a shot of her with the Rebel helmet on pretending to fly... but she was never shown to be a pilot nor had any actual references to her piloting skills. She was a scavenger. A poor orphan scavenger waiting for her lost parents to return. NOT a pilot. Not someone who wanted to be a pilot. Nothing. (Supplemental materials say Luke got a crash course and simulator training for an X-wing before the Yavin mission. Rey supposedly found a working flight simulator that she'd play with in the wreckage of Jakku. But even then, Rey would have found a simulator for military craft that were present in the battle... a TIE fighter of X-wing version: completely different from a Corellian Freighter. Luke then trained in a simulator for the exact model of ship he would pilot, and tons of real life experience flying a similar model. Supplemental materials further stated that his Skyhopper was made by the same company that manufactures X-wings, so the control scheme/handling would have been similar. But even then, he also had other X-wing pilots to give him more direct instructions. This is all supplemental material not found directly in either movie, however, so ignore it all if you want.) So yeah. Luke and Rey's piloting skills are exactly the same :// I mean... maybe if Rey had found hte MF crashed in the desert and had been maintaining it this whole time. Like she was scavenging parts through the desert/trading for other ones to patch it up. This could also be an excuse to alter hte MF's design a bit to reflect Rey's patch job/reinforce her role as a scavenger. Her plan would be to leave Jakku in the MF when her parents returned, or wait a few more years before heading out to find them on her own. So naturally she'd run to hte MF, and know how to fly it, when the First Order attacks. This would also be why she feels ownership over it and make it feel more right for when she just winds up with the MF after Han dies. They could nag at each other over who "really" owns the ship with Rey pointing out all the work/effort she's put into it. Finders Keepers, yaddy yadda. And Chewie and Han could roll their eyes at each other over this. Then when Han dies, it's less jarring that she just gains the MF by default despite Chewie still being there. It'd be Chewie's ship still, but Rey as his new co-pilot or whatever.
“If things get desperate they’ll clone him and have him return” Star Wars: episode 9: THE DEAD SPEAK! Palpetine has been cloned because we ran out of ideas! Our hero’s have to find him and kill him before he clones himself again! Ohhhhhhhhh (slide whistle)
+Litshttam first of all, it was a joke, second of all, theres no way in hell, that all of these characters, finn, rey, and the villian are all related to starwars characters, one of them most likely is and if that is the villian or rey, then the other one is probably also related, theres no fucking way they will do 3. If you do that then you have entered the realm of fanfiction.
Batman Laughed yea lol, worst case scenaro is this, rey is lukes daughter, villian is han and leighas daughter, fin is landos son, x-wing pilot is wedges son, stormtooper commander is bobba fets daughter.
+Whirlwind Spiral being a rabid fan is irrelevant since liking the prequels is idiotic regardless. That's what I was getting at... Seriously is reading comprehension completely extinct these days?
+Whirlwind Spiral my bad. When dissing the prequels. Even mildly. I'm ready for the defensive prequel fans to come out in droves and take it seriously.
+JackFlash85 If there's one thing I've learned in running our channel, there are A LOT of fans of the prequels. Dedicated, foam-at-the-mouth insane for them, fans who get really fucking mad when you rag on them.
I typically find that it's the rabid Star Wars fans who hate the prequels, and it's the people who don't really care who say "Oh they weren't that bad"
+Anthony Avon Deseert snow, and forest planets... cause you know a planet with a single defining feature is something that can exist..... Like why is there air on Hoth? Its a frozen planet etc etc etc.
Adrian Jaworski Than we had the city planet, the crater planet, the swamp planet, the planet of mushrooms, the planet of raining oceans, the planet of trees again, the planet of another desert, and the planet of lava :D All with somehow breathable air and life supporting conditions :D I guess Lucas portrayed it so that it rhymes :D
Their backstory on Finn actually makes more sense as the one we got was that apparently out of the 1000s of troops he was the ONLY one who thought all the killing wasn't a good thing because a friend of his died (maybe nobody else made friends and they were the only 2 with emotions?) so he decides to slaughter en-mass the people who were his friends because the enemy killed his friend... What? That'd be like an Allied soldier joining the Nazis because their friend died because obviously it's not the enemy that is at fault, it's the other side.
The biggest crutch of this movie is that it has to take place 30 years after return of the jedi. It makes it seem like all the main characters just dicked around for 30 years, doing nothing. And also how is the remnant of the empire STILL kicking about, with no taxbase to support it? And werent there enough witnesses to cement the events from the previous movies into history?
+arbitor365 The Emperor and Vadar got killed, but you've still got a huge Imperial navy with an admiralty knocking around. I expect it will turn out that the Imperial forces still have systems under their control. We see nations with 30 year+ gripes in real life, and that's just on one planet, so its easy to imagine that the republic could settle into an uneasy cold war that's coming to a head at the point of these movies.
+arbitor365 Reminds me of the story for StarCraft 2 (a video game). The original story ends with a massive alien fleet in hot pursuit all the story's protagonists, who have barely escaped the treachery of the aliens' leader. 10+ years later the second game comes out and it turns out she immediately lost interest in killing everyone after the first story ended and decided to camp out on a single planet for 5 or so years doing nothing with no explanation ever provided.
Great points because there are Star systems still loyal to the Empire hence recruitment or join. And the rebellion was probably viewed as seperatist. As Princess Leia was once close to the Empire as she seems more than familiar with Grand Moff Tarken and their little exchange. So my point is that the details are there in the movies both the prequel and original trilogies that allow us, the fans, to piece somethings together. Especially, when speculating on the forthcoming film!
+arbitor365 Read STAR wARS: Shattered Empire its a comic line that explains everything that happened after Vaders death and the battle of Endor. and it IS OFFICIALLY canon by Marvel Comics and Disney
Harrison Ford on Star Wars "It's really, really good". Ford is a straight-shooter; doesn't bullshit to promote movies. That comment gives me a lot more hope in this film.
***** It just how I feel. His opinion certainly doesn't need to be important to you. I don't think he "trashed" it, I think he's not as crazy about it as others. I don't recall him ever praising Indi 4; I googled it and can't find anything but him praising Spielberg or trashing Shia Lebouf. He said this on Kimmel btw, it was just a natural drop rather than getting on twitter or voicing it online. Ford strikes me as someone who'll give his honest opinion. I might not agree with his opinion after I see the film; but I believe that it's his genuine opinion rather than some actor who is promoting his next movie.
Kujakuseki01 Saying "Yeah, ok!" isn't the same as saying "It's a really, really good film. Trust me... You won't be disappointed" and that he was happy to "have a really wonderful part in a great movie" about Star Wars when not asked about it's quality. Ford doesn't strike me as a liar; maybe a truth bender, but not a liar. I don't think you'll ever find him saying things like that about a film like Crystal Skull. He may agree to do a crappy film, he's gotta work, but he doesn't strike me as some promoter who lies to sell you on the movie like many other actors. Again, his opinion of the film may not be in line with yours or mine when we see the film, but I believe that it's his true opinion and he's not trying to sell the movie to people. Personally, if there is any actor in the film who you should hold credence to what he says about the star wars film, it's Ford.
This is unrelated a bit but sometimes the script there is when you star shooting and the finished film are so different that you can not judge people to sing up to do bad films.
Rich literally predicted Luke’s arc in ep. 8 “He’s deemed the Jedi and sith too dangerous” “He wants the Jedi to pass into myth” “He knows he’s the last Jedi” Like holy shit, everything down to the title of the movie. It’s interesting to me that fans hated what they did with luke so much yet it seems completely natural to his character progression. Everyone was shocked by the “subversion” but to me it seemed like the right way to go with the character.
42:29 "if things get desperate they will clone him" damn that was a close call to what they did with palpatine, they just thought vader instead. they weren't thinking dumb enough!
