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Star Wars: Why Kathleen Kennedy couldn’t be fired in 2018 

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On December 21st of 2018, Jon Kasdan, the writer of "Solo: A Star Wars Story" tweeted “Hard not to wonder how Solo might've faired if it had come out tonight.”
So what if had been released around Holidays, like the other Disney Star Wars movies. Would that have made any difference? Would the movie have been any better received then?
That would in no small part have depended on the audiences overall confidence in the Star Wars brand, and that confidence has taken a hit since the release of “The Last Jedi” one year ago. The one most responsible for that is Kathleen Kennedy, leaving many wondering why she hasn’t been fired yet.
In this editorial, @AndreEinherjar will give his take on all of this, by first exploring why releasing Solo in December might not have worked out as well as Kasdan would like to think, before explaining in detail why Kathleen Kennedy not only hasn’t been fired, but why her contract has even been extended - despite Disney by all accounts wanting to get rid of her.
Solo Postmortem and state of Star Wars:
• Solo, a Star Wars Unde...
The Humiliation of Kathleen Kennedy:
• Star Wars: Attack on t...
The Future of Rian Johnson’s Star Wars Trilogy:
• Star Wars: Bob Iger's ...
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@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 5 лет назад
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@alsoknownas875
@alsoknownas875 5 лет назад
No worries! Still one of the best and most informative channels on RU-vid. Thanks for all your hard work, and happy new year!
@Lensman864
@Lensman864 5 лет назад
It's fine.
@joshadams8761
@joshadams8761 5 лет назад
Jeg la ikke merke til det. Takk for videoen.
@jacobblanton5179
@jacobblanton5179 5 лет назад
The thumbnail for the vid says: "Year of Hell of Hell for Star Wars"
@Dragonage2ftw
@Dragonage2ftw 5 лет назад
Huh?
@TheJackal342
@TheJackal342 5 лет назад
The last Jedi is 100% of the reason I didn't go see Solo..
@MichaelPohoreski
@MichaelPohoreski 5 лет назад
Optimus_37 Agreed. I call it _Stupid Wars: The Latest Junk_ because Disney only cares about money and selling (the latest) merchandise; they don't care about character development nor respecting the fans; instead we get some bullshit SJW ideology that no one gives a fuck about and then blames the fans because all of them, even the non-white women, are "obviously misogynistic and racist." HUH??? How about making a good movie instead of blaming fans for not liking your crap!
@TheJackal342
@TheJackal342 5 лет назад
@@MichaelPohoreski Yup, It's frustrating to spend lots of time and money on a franchise you love so much only to have them destroy it with their pink haired agenda.. They killed it and tried to frame the fans..
@SubliminaIMessages
@SubliminaIMessages 5 лет назад
I call it “The Last Straw” because that was when lots of people were officially done with Disney/LucasFilm’s shit
@nathanielrooker7036
@nathanielrooker7036 5 лет назад
#metoo 😂😂😂😂😂😎
@TexasCat99
@TexasCat99 5 лет назад
By having SOLO bombed, it sent a message to Disney loud and clear. Give Disney a chance to fix this mess. After all, they have done very well with Marvel movies. They are the owners, they allowed Kennedy to run LFI the way Marvel runs... independent, but part of a whole. But she and Rian messed things up. By all means, I would never watch ANY Rian Johnson movies, just as I won't watch any Michael Bay films.... garbage. Solo has some problems, but overall its a fun movie. Ron Howard did the best with what he had to work with. Re-shooting half a movie. It could have been better. But it is BETTER than The Last Jedi.
@blackmormon3555
@blackmormon3555 5 лет назад
I'm more than willing to extend my boycott for 3 more years.
@ariochiv
@ariochiv 5 лет назад
I might consider taking a look to see what a Dave & Dan Star Wars saga might look like, but I'm done with this current crew. It's obvious that they have no creative vision for where to take the story, and are just trying to make as much cash as they possibly can. I have no interest in Ep. IX.
@Kaefer1973
@Kaefer1973 5 лет назад
For me it's no boycott, after the prequels I just decided only to watch Star Wars movies I knew I'd like (as well as Force Awakens, which I knew was no good but was dragged to by my social circle anyway). I'm more into the video game side of the franchise anyway. In fact I'm still paying EA/Bioware for the online game, so really no boycott here.
@Ria-vj3ch
@Ria-vj3ch 5 лет назад
Does it bother anyone else that Rey is in possession of Luke and Anakin’s light saber?
@deniseallisonstout1901
@deniseallisonstout1901 4 года назад
This comment deserves another 5k likes and Ben solo deserves that light saber...I wonder if , while filming that final battle between Kylo and Luke , did that dumbass Rian Johnson ever remember that Luke had used a GREEN light saber, he hadn’t had the blue one since episode 5 what the Jedi carry spares now? Kylo should have said “I call bullshit! Me and Rey just broke that one 10 minutes ago!” I don’t know 😒
@KushDragon420
@KushDragon420 4 года назад
@@deniseallisonstout1901 actually jedi DO carry spares.
@notharveyweinstein3235
@notharveyweinstein3235 4 года назад
The Force is Female 💩 at the cost of a decent story 🤮 Agenda over everything!!
@codycollects3534
@codycollects3534 4 года назад
@@deniseallisonstout1901 if Kylo had been more focused he would have realized that he broke that saber 10 minutes before, but Rey broke his heart and he wasn't thinking straight at all, General Hux tried to tell him he was acting a fool and he choke slammed him for it.
@wannabehistorian371
@wannabehistorian371 3 года назад
@@deniseallisonstout1901 Kylo Ren is a Dark side Force user. He wouldn’t use a blue saber.
@BasicBodThor
@BasicBodThor 5 лет назад
"Franchise Fatigue" - yeah tell that to all the Marvel fans who are more than happy with 2-3 films per yr....
@dancnkc
@dancnkc 5 лет назад
bingo
@Brando7778
@Brando7778 5 лет назад
Yep... Marvel is crushing it! Ask yourselves why Disney execs? Why is it crushing it? Because the stories are great!!! We're having fun on the ride! Fans of Star Wars are smart. We know great writing and great characters when we see it! Why is this so hard for Disney to understand?
@spirittammyk
@spirittammyk 4 года назад
@@Brando7778 Not to mention unlike Kathleen Kennedy, Kevin Feigi knows what the hell he is doing. He already has everything planned out like 5 years in advanced. And the funny thing is, he doesn't have the "experience" that she does, nor does he have her massive connections, and yet, he still gets the job done. Now, this makes me wonder, what exactly was she doing on all those other films she is credited for in the past?
@vaguelyawareofstuff2955
@vaguelyawareofstuff2955 4 года назад
Oh, you mean exactly like he said in the video then?
@DedricSilva
@DedricSilva 4 года назад
Not to mention the Marvel shows too
@arekkrolak6320
@arekkrolak6320 5 лет назад
Star Wars is suffering from uninteresting stories, not franchise fatigue :)
@underfire987
@underfire987 5 лет назад
and rampant anti male feminism and anti white leftist agendas ;)
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 5 лет назад
It's been turned into a Career suicide pill so nobody will touch it until KK is ORDER 66D
@rikk319
@rikk319 5 лет назад
@@underfire987 I think all that SJW crap is overblown. The plot just sucked. Who cares if there's more or less women in it...I just want a good story. And anti white just sounds crazy, I don't see it.
@toebeans31
@toebeans31 5 лет назад
Amen, I'm tired of seeing political points of views being thrown into movies like star wars. I miss getting stories instead of being for men or for women
@mbnhiphopmusik6429
@mbnhiphopmusik6429 5 лет назад
@@rikk319 It is not really the movies that have the SJW crap. It's the people who make it political, mostly the actors but also "reporters" who write about something like "third unit directors" and stuff as long as it serves their agenda. If whatsshecalled (rose) decides to call critics who do not think her character is good "racists" instead of reconsidering whether her role actually sucked it is just pathetic and does not help anyone except in that case ryan johnson...
@DrinkingMidget
@DrinkingMidget 5 лет назад
The Last Jedi broke me as a fan. Solo was the first Star Wars movie that I did not see in the movie theaters since A New Hope. And I have no interest in seeing episode 9. Their so-called Trilogy isn't much of a Trilogy when every episode doesn't lead into or move the story of the next episode. I personally will not watch any more Star Wars movies with Kathleen Kennedy at the helm of LucasArts. And I know a lot of other people I feel just the same way as me and we are all lifetime fans of Star Wars
@zebmars8944
@zebmars8944 5 лет назад
feel the same
@scruffybob42088
@scruffybob42088 5 лет назад
Same, Disney/Lucasfilm isn’t getting a single dollar from me until KK is gone
@NameCallingIsWeak
@NameCallingIsWeak 5 лет назад
"I personally will not watch any more Star Wars movies with Kathleen Kennedy at the helm of LucasArts." Yeah, but what if she makes sure someone (not Mickey Mouse) writes a great STORY?
@ditamarlow9002
@ditamarlow9002 5 лет назад
Broke my fandom as well. I was also majorly disappointed by The Phantom Menace, but The Last Jedi snapped me out of whatever spell Star Wars had me under. I feel woke, but not in the way the SJW Queen Ms. KK intended. It's tragic.… insofar as losing one's sad devotion to an ancient trilogy of films about space wizards and laser swords can be considered a tragedy. For the record, Solo isn't a terrible movie.... more enjoyable than TLJ. And it's essentially laser-sword and space-wizard free. (Hey, maybe *that's* why it failed.... imagine how well it might have done if it had included space wizards and laser swords, what with it being part of a franchise about space wizards and laser swords and all).
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus 5 лет назад
Would you rather have all the pointless sequel teases of Batman v. Superman or The Mummy?
@thunderflare59
@thunderflare59 5 лет назад
Let's make Episode IX bomb, folks. We need to defeat the Sith Lord of Lucasfilm.
@coreyschoermer5877
@coreyschoermer5877 5 лет назад
You need something better to do with your time
@thunderflare59
@thunderflare59 5 лет назад
@@coreyschoermer5877 that's why I won't waste time with Episode IX.
@Phanto5692
@Phanto5692 5 лет назад
But George Lucas is retired. He has no hands in Lucasfilms anymore.
@restlessheroes
@restlessheroes 5 лет назад
@@Phanto5692 that's why he said Lucasfilms and not George Lucas.
@TartarusHunter
@TartarusHunter 5 лет назад
@@Phanto5692 That sith lord would be Darth Kathleen.
@PsychoIncarnate666
@PsychoIncarnate666 5 лет назад
Well, boycotting Star Wars for at least another 3 years I guess
@bippaasama
@bippaasama 5 лет назад
There is no Star Wars overexposure, the new movies are just _bad._
@MGSBigBoss77
@MGSBigBoss77 5 лет назад
I would say yes and no, the franchise *IS* overexposure whether its been good or bad thus far. But yes the new movies barring 'Rogue One' have been met badly by the general public regardless of various age groups.
@kylerknowles7823
@kylerknowles7823 5 лет назад
@@MGSBigBoss77 the people I know only think the last jedi is bad. The other 3 they think are pretty good
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus 5 лет назад
@@MGSBigBoss77 And yet Rogue One is actually the worst of the bunch. Are you people seriously so willing to sit through a movie that is 75% scenes where people just stand and talk to each other in scenes that don't flow into each other at all?
@FindecanorNotGmail
@FindecanorNotGmail 5 лет назад
I would say that it flopped largely because discussions about how bad _The_ _Last_ _Jedi_ was were still intense when Solo was released. In other words, the box office failure was a combination of the movies being bad _and_ being released too often.
@brianmead7556
@brianmead7556 5 лет назад
IDK, I've been on some massive EU (it's the EU, fuck calling it "Legends") and I've been Star Wars'd out.
@TheCloudhopper
@TheCloudhopper 5 лет назад
Disney has failed to deliver on THE ONE thing fans wanted: Leia, Luke and Han together on screen one more time.
@jamiebraswell5520
@jamiebraswell5520 5 лет назад
Yep. And due to the stupidity of JJ Abrams, they never appeared together. Dumb Dumb Abrams kills off Han before introducing Luke. And now, Carrie Fisher has passed away. It is too late. They had one chance and they utterly blew it.
@billybarnett9518
@billybarnett9518 5 лет назад
I thought killing off Han was what Harrison Ford wanted.
@TheCloudhopper
@TheCloudhopper 5 лет назад
They could have reunited them for a few minutes on screen at any point and than kill one or all of them off to make the "hand over". That was the fan service the Fandom that made SW a pop culture icon for 4 decades wanted (and deserved). That's what they paid for with their tickets. It's never gonna happe now. Star Wars is the saga of the Skywalkers. And they running out of living options to keep the saga going.
@billybarnett9518
@billybarnett9518 5 лет назад
@@TheCloudhopper Ford wanting out kinda put them in a corner, for some reason, he's never cared much for Han Solo.
@billybarnett9518
@billybarnett9518 5 лет назад
@NOISEMAZE Ah, boohoo, you still have the original trilogy at home I bet.
@sukalemon
@sukalemon 5 лет назад
the best thing that can happen in episode 9 - luke wakes up and realizes, that the whole episode 8 was just a weird dream, induced by green milk. Wait...
@adriandorman7511
@adriandorman7511 5 лет назад
YES !!! The "Bobby Ewing in the shower" approach to discard everything that had gone on before. The "Green Milk" is hallucinogenic, right?
@drowningin
@drowningin 4 года назад
@@adriandorman7511 the green milk was in 8. So if it was a dream he didn't drink it. That's why he says "wait"
@bird718
@bird718 5 лет назад
the real problem is that they made bad movies that are easily forgettable, they alienated their fans and basically destroyed the series. never forget!!! never forgive!!!!
@bird718
@bird718 5 лет назад
@isll vnn thank you soooooo much, that was amazing... and vader sent in the 501st legion wich was nice. that short clip was about 2 trillion times better than anything since the original movies.
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus 5 лет назад
@Johnny Tramain Does it? There are more bad Star Wars movies than good ones.
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus 5 лет назад
The only fans who were alienated deserve to be. I don't like The Last Jedi, but I detest the entitled behavior of these so-called fans even more. Not that Lucasfilm is justified in attacking fans, because that's just dumb, but said fans are doing everything to continue giving Lucasfilm ammo. If you're so mad at ONE movie when there are so many entertainment options, something is honestly wrong with you.
@JohnBrowser2013
@JohnBrowser2013 5 лет назад
@Johnny Tramain lol no, it takes a *LACK* of talent to screw up the franchise. The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith are a fkkn *case study* you should be aware of...
@deplorablewhiteman3628
@deplorablewhiteman3628 5 лет назад
Yea i dont go to the movies to be told im a misogynist and I'm a bad person as is feminism and white knight soy boys are cancer and can keep their opinions to themselves
@bruceleeroy7739
@bruceleeroy7739 5 лет назад
i didn’t go see “solo” because of my dissatisfaction with the last jedi. and that’s the real reason solo failed. not because of fatigue.
@Heidenspross
@Heidenspross 5 лет назад
if they would screen the original trilogy around the world millions would go see them...
@Ian3199
@Ian3199 5 лет назад
and KK just said that Rian Johnson is still involved with star wars and will be for the next 10 years.. 🤦‍♂️
@donnycage4757
@donnycage4757 4 года назад
@@Ian3199 That's not going to happen. It would be business suicide to allow Rian Johnson on another star wars project. She may have said that (pretending to the public that they don't have a problem with him), but she really doesn't have a say in it anymore... Not unless her contract renews next year, which I highly doubt. He will never work on another Star Wars project, ever again. Mark my words.
@theandroids
@theandroids 5 лет назад
I'm still not bored of people making last jedi videos. lol
@NickPCage
@NickPCage 5 лет назад
me either I find the videos better then the movie
@CaptGhostFace
@CaptGhostFace 5 лет назад
ahahah same and I don't know why
@Pauly421
@Pauly421 5 лет назад
There's a whole culture now devoted to hating that movie. LMAO its amazing
@Wonderboywonderings
@Wonderboywonderings 5 лет назад
Keep them coming! So therapeutic and cathartic!
@Anthropomorphic
@Anthropomorphic 5 лет назад
People crave belonging.
@grendelprime166
@grendelprime166 5 лет назад
Compare "mary Sue" Rey to other screen heroines like Ellen Ripley and Sarah Conner. Ripley starts as a mid level officer to sole survivor in Alien, to reluctant consultant to bad ass take out the Queen warrior in Aliens. She experienced a road of hard lessons and rose to the top. Sarah Conner started out as a single aimless waitress to a princess in dismay, to the heroine who outsmarts the terminator and kills it. In her second film she's a trained and weathered bad ass in incarceration who does whatever it takes to keep her son Alive. Rey on the other hand starts of in hardship as a scrapper, but already exhibits amazing fighting prowess, can fly the Millenium Falcon better than any pilot in the series ever did despite most of her life in the sand, can repair it better than Han Solo, can outfight a trained sith... well you get the idea. She's a shit character who is preloaded with extreme skills over any other character. You never see her struggle and rise, just dance through the movies facing experiences and outdoing the boys. Rey is the creation of Kathleen Kennedy, a shallow ambitious executive who could never really cut it in creative storytelling and is a spineless vapid feminist. It's no surprise she gave JJ Abrams major hell in the first film and brought in Beta boy Rion Johnson to do whatever she wanted. This fucking cunt destroyed a multi billion dollar investment with her feminist hubris and desire to push a social agenda that most of us are just bored of. Talented stortytellers could bring Heroines into film that we all adored, while hacks like this wench could only produce a character that we despise.
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus 5 лет назад
I thought it would make sense that someone who has had to fight for survival all her life would have some rudimentary fighting skills, and she does not fly the Millennium Falcon as well as you think - and her proficiency with it is fairly justifiable as the ship has been on that planet for a long time (how it got there is anyone's guess admittedly, but still) and she has probably scavenged it in and out, while Han Solo hasn't seen the ship in decades. Furthermore, in The Force Awakens at least, Rey demonstrates several skills early on which she puts to use later - I thought that and "Show, Don't Tell" were good storytelling 101. But no, you guys think the exposition-heavy prequels and Rogue One were better movies, sure. Honestly the sequel trilogy could use some exposition, but I understand why they are afraid of going that route. However, not only is there no way Rey would be getting all this flack if she was male, but you specifically derogatorily compare her to two more masculine heroines. Congratulations for proving yourself to be incredibly sexist, and indicative of the mindset of the average American, aka a total scumbag.
@grendelprime166
@grendelprime166 5 лет назад
​@@LinkMarioSamus What a shame that you have to chastise me as a sexist for pointing out fundamental character development writing flaws for Rey. I love Heroine Characters. I grew up loving Ripley, Sarah, and Princess Leia, in fact my wife resembles many of these Characters herself. My daughter is an amazing talented teenager who understands hard work, a sharp mind and good morals make a wonderful human being. She has been growing up with these fictitious characters in film and books and we love to talk about these characters and what to learn from them for our own lives. I want to like Rey, she's cute and has a degree of charm, she's compassionate and quick to find friends. But she is ruined because she can do everything better than any man and this is sadly a common stupid theme promoted by disney producers for quite a long time now. Your case for Rey Falls short. Despite Rey's survival experience and powers of the force she should have never had the ability to match and nearly defeat the Trained and powerful Kylo Ren. Some filmmaking and writing skills could have handled this better. Finn's involvement in the fight with Kylo Ren could have helped her survive and I wouldn't be surprised that was the intention from JJ Abrams but overridden by Kathleen Kennedy to have Finn Struck down and Rey charging in to save him. Had Finn been more instrumental in the fight and suffering a mortal wound as a result it would have done several things, Put respectable fear in Kylo Ren, form an even stronger bond between Finn and Rey. But the desire to make her unrealistically do everything better than everybody else won the day. Furthermore, the scene where Rey get's the lightsaber and has force vision flashbacks... I had hoped this would explain Rey's amazing attributes, perhaps she did climb the long road to becoming an amazing Jedi, but for her protection was hidden on an obscure pilot. This was all thrown out in Rion Johnson's nightmarish disaster controlled by Kathleen Kennedy. Rey is just a bad ass because she's a woman according to Kennedy. The entire Star Wars franchise has been destroyed by a loopy feminist and my short disjointed comments on it dont even scratch the surface, there are plenty of thorough criticism detailing this. I don't know if you have an education in writing, how old you are, etc. but your response to me is pretty normal for a young fool who has digested these ridiculous social agendas through your education system and pop culture. How quick you are to level sexist charges and attempt to claim criticism of Rey is solely based on her being a woman. Preposterous!
@flowinsounds
@flowinsounds 5 лет назад
@@LinkMarioSamus Yeah, I found Rey in TFA a little annoying, but since most of her Mary Sueness was involved with winks back to ANH, they made me smile rather than hated them. The worst of TFA was Hux ranting and the falcon jumping inside a planet's shield. The rest of is was a rip-roaring remake/reboot/continuation masterpiece. I was really interested to see Rey get trained, to learn if she really was Palpatine's daughter (my guess) and to watch the development of Snoke and Vader 2.0. That patricide scene was awesome. Even Poe and his boyfriend looked like they could grow well, with the series passing on from the oldies to the young un's. Ah well. All dreams die.
@hairdoggy
@hairdoggy 5 лет назад
mary sue period!
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus 5 лет назад
Grendel Prime Being honest, I am not so concerned with The Last Jedi getting so much hate, just with the nature of said hate. I personally just thought the film was okay, but it is obvious that you want far more out of your Star Wars films than I do. Which is honestly fine, I am just starting to come to terms with that. To me, The Last Jedi seems more to be especially fan-unfriendly and thus not truly awful, or at least not bad in the same way as something like the Tom Cruise version of The Mummy. But I suppose it could be argued that, as part of a long-running franchise, The Last Jedi should be held to different standards.
@chrysopylaedesign
@chrysopylaedesign 5 лет назад
Ultimately Kathy Kennedy was a terrible choice for CEO of lucasfilm, a decision that George Lucas made. She is NOT a Creative (she doesn't know SW), she's an Executive. I doubt she was a FAN before George gave her the job? Lucas hired her because of her Association with Spielberg (plain & simple) for over 35 yrs...period!!! She's an Executive Producer, nothing more...a SUIT!!! SW clearly lacks a single vision by (someone/anyone?) w/ a loving/deep knowledge of what is TRUE SW (a Feige for SW). Kathy can't serve 2 masters (she clearly isn't knowledgeable of & isn't serving SW)....She has been very clear almost from day one of pushing a FemiNazi agenda to remake Star Wars Into a Girl Power franchise. BS has to be called on anyone who isn't up to the job. It is obvious that she is Flying Blind when it comes to Star Wars, she's relying on other men who know Star Wars to actually create and direct the Star Wars films and content and in essence to decide the, present and future, for Star Wars. This is why the franchise seems so disjointed and ununified now, because every new film Kathy has a new man or Team come in that decides a new Direction, their own for their Star Wars film at that particular time, instead of a real knowledgeable CEO of Star Wars actually guiding the franchise and plotting a unified whole. In the case of JJ Abrams it went well, in the case of Rian Johnson and TLJ the result was wholy Un-Star Wars like and just strange. Rogue one unexpectedly turned out very well but only after much disruption and well the chaos of Solo was clear for everyone to see. Kathy's lack of knowledge of the Star Wars franchise has allowed it to derail and have much faith in it lost by the core fan base. I believe Kathy's three-year extension was really a road map to her final exit, three years really isn't a vote of confidence it's more a transition. To give Disney time to find the replacement and to have Kathy exit, probably in less than the three years she has.
@spirittammyk
@spirittammyk 4 года назад
I watched the video of George signing away Lucas Films to Bob Iger, and he looks so sad, almost depressed. Combine that with Steven Spielberg coming out now and saying Kathleen Kennedy was never good at her job, he just had to put up with her because she was the wife of his friend, Frank Marshal, makes me wonder if Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy got behind closed doors and found ways to force George Lucas to hand over the series to them.
@conqc20
@conqc20 5 лет назад
I was done with SW when they started calling fans racist, sexists etc etc for not liking the movie - that and what they did to Lukes character and not allowing us one shot of Luke, Leia and Han together. I still have the originals and thats all anyone really needs.
@leeprice2849
@leeprice2849 5 лет назад
Greatest travesty of the current trilogy was not having the original trio together onscreen.
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus 5 лет назад
While it's still idiotic that Lucasfilm attacks fans in this way, the people who complain about it are pretty much living up to their toxic reputation. And saying a movie is bad while blaming it having a diverse cast for it is pretty racist and sexist. It's not like bad movies aren't made every day, and have been for the entire history of the industry. The rest of the criticism, I could never think that way but I get it - stemming from a love of the franchise and thus a tendency to just nitpick anything that seems off-kilter.
@HappyFlapps
@HappyFlapps 5 лет назад
Don't worry, they'll do the Luke/Leia/Han together again thing using CGI. It's not like they haven't used that lame shit before.
@JohnBrowser2013
@JohnBrowser2013 5 лет назад
@@LinkMarioSamus oh, you again. And again with the false narratives. Let me help you out - NOBODY serious is blaming the awfulness of this movie on the fact the cast has a black guy, a latino and a tagalog. Customers like you - the ones that readily lap up any garbage - are a big part of why bad media continues to persist.
@MrCrashr11
@MrCrashr11 5 лет назад
@@shadowban581 Me as well
@TwwIX
@TwwIX 5 лет назад
I'd start worrying about the performance of Episode 9 if i were Disney.
@jimmyboydonald6578
@jimmyboydonald6578 5 лет назад
If it fails, Disney will lose interest in Star Wars just like they lost interest in The Chronicles of Narnia when Prince Caspian didn't do as well as The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe. If it succeeds, there will be angry people even more upset because people don't see things their way.
@louisblackforester
@louisblackforester 5 лет назад
The Vader mask in TFA makes no sense whatsoever !
@Aidey75
@Aidey75 5 лет назад
Nothing in TFA makes sense.
@tonyhind6992
@tonyhind6992 5 лет назад
Not be seeing 9.
@Herdatec
@Herdatec 5 лет назад
No, wait for a few people to see it. IF IT IS GOOD go watch it! Punish bad, but reward good
@doctormeatball7618
@doctormeatball7618 5 лет назад
Kathleen Kennedy has become Frank Drebin, standing in front of the fireworks factory. "Nothing to see here. Please disperse! Nothing to see here."
@Mosux2007
@Mosux2007 5 лет назад
KK is Satan's fluffer. She, her gang of "The Force is Female" fembots, and Ruin Johnson, i.e., the KK Clan, must be publicly shamed to such an extent that they never even TRY to make movies ever again.
@MangoNapalm
@MangoNapalm 5 лет назад
Indeed, though people love Frank Drebin. Even without utensils....
@garydepp3195
@garydepp3195 5 лет назад
Iger says 1 a year might have been too much. I'd have gone to see 4 or 5 a year IF they were worth seeing. As a SW fan, saying nonsense like 'burned out' and 'over saturated' is just wrong. A good movie is a good movie. 'Last Jedi' wasn't a good movie. So I'm done with SW.
@countfalconer
@countfalconer 5 лет назад
I'd happily watch a Star Wars movie every single month if they released them what I won't pay to see is complete garbage that shoehorns in real world politics and call it a SW movie, meanwhile I'll say I don't like it and I'm compared by LucasFilm or its shill media to the third Reich.
@DeusExAstra
@DeusExAstra 5 лет назад
YOU might see 5 SW movies per year, but most people wont. And with that many SW films per years you will quickly get diminishing returns. Not just that, but you increase the chance of bad movies because you have to spread your moviemaking resources very thin. So... no. For SW, 1 per year is really about the max they can do. You can compare to Marvel because Marvel is making movies that are based on a much larger and more diverse universe of characters and decades of source material to draw from. The SW universe is pretty shallow. The EU doesnt count for much because most people have never read an EU book or even know anything about that.
@smsff7
@smsff7 5 лет назад
I can see 3 Marvel films in a year, it is not the number of films, it is the fact they inject to much SJW and remove anything good or fun
@kaptinbadrukk2668
@kaptinbadrukk2668 5 лет назад
@@smsff7 have you not got bored with the marvel formula being trotted out 3 times a year with only cosmetic differences each time? The same jokey but serious but jokey tone, the same unsatisfying villains who are just the mirror of the the protagonist in terms of powers and costumes, the same arrogant hero learning humility character arc only to need to repeat and relearn the same lesson in that character's next appearance? the same seeding of further characters to be given the next spin off? Is 10 years of this repetition really not getting boring for you? How about when all the charismatic actors finally quit and characters get replaced by token minorities and whammens as the comics tried from 2015 to last summer and the inevitability of being told if you don't like the new versions you're a nazi? i suspect the superhero genre will go the way of the western.
@AvengerII
@AvengerII 5 лет назад
@@kaptinbadrukk2668 "i suspect the superhero genre will go the way of the western." Pretty much what I've been thinking for years but the superhero cycle HAS lasted a few years longer than I thought it would. Captain Marvel will be a huge test. I'm picky about what I watch and it looks like a dumpster fire to me and I don't like the character in the Marvel comics, period... Horribly-written character and they cast one of the worst, bad-attitude actresses they could have as that character. What a completely ungrateful @#$#! Brie Larson is... You'd think celebrities would have learned by now NOT to piss off the movie-going public but the little brat is an idiot. Prediction -- Captain Marvel MIGHT be moderately successful but Brie Larson will NEVER be that popular in the role and more people will get tried of her. Pre-release, there are many of us who are already weary of and have written her off after her comments in the press. As far as the other films go, I've only watched the Iron Man movies, Captain America films, the first Avengers, and both Guardians of the Galaxy films. Other than the Cap films (I preferred the first two over Civil War) and the first Iron Man, what I've bothered to watch hasn't aged well and I felt the first Avengers movie was very overrated. I just have no interest in the other movies and the scripts will never match the best of the Marvel Comics in the past ... DISTANT PAST! No use for Black Panther or Doctor Strange and I've avoided the Marvel TV series because the live-action stuff in general just isn't that good. To be fair, I feel the same way about the DC TV series and haven't bothered with a DC live-action film in ages. I wasn't sold on Batfleck or the Cavill's Man of Rust...
@schalkengelbrecht7859
@schalkengelbrecht7859 5 лет назад
The reason Solo flopped is because every damn element of the story (Han's Blaster, the dice, his name) is either dumb or stuff we knew already. There's no real tension because we know from episode 3 that he survived the Kessel run with the Falcon intact. It's a dumb idea and the only reason people went to see it is to get their Star Wars fix. It's like buying a pie from a gas station when you're hungry - it tastes bad but it fills the hole. There's nothing more to say what hasn't been said a thousand times in videos like this (but I'm watching it anyway).
@Left4Deadluver
@Left4Deadluver 4 года назад
I'll forever hate solo for one reason. Watering down and killing everything great about han solo. 'Oh you don't have any people? Well how bout we call you han "solo" that's clever" random imperial officer... your lifelong companion and friend? Why not team up with the monster who was seconds away from eating you after simply saying something guttural in his language. Except wait chewbacca already understood English so what tf does it matter if han speaks wookie. Hans awesome blaster? Randomly given to him by some asshole. Uses it for the rest of his life. First ship han ever gets. Uses it for the rest of his life. It's total BS. And it cheapens everything great about the OT Han... NVM how they ruined the millennium falcon. That annoying ass droid rights bitch of a Droid is now the heart and mind of the millennium falcon. PLUS lando is now a fucking pansexual. So no he wasn't just a smooth talking guy who was into princess Leia. He hit on everything that had a pulse. Wait no not just a pulse because I guess he was fucking his robot partner. Makes you wonder what nasty things went on a board the millennium falcon after he ditches han on the desert planet. I almost hate solo as much as I hate TLJ. Almost....
@Smerpyderp
@Smerpyderp 3 года назад
Trace Brewer not to mention the unhealthy fetish for weird scenes like Han and Chewie showering together, which goes right along with the milky Luke scene and Ben swolo scene.
@TonyEvans96
@TonyEvans96 5 лет назад
It wasn't overexposure. TLJ just did so badly that many people, myself included, put off watching Solo for several months. That said, many of the negative reviews I've seen were because of exactly how bad TLJ was.
@monstermikeheinrichs
@monstermikeheinrichs 4 года назад
Yeah, I think the overall consensus that I've heard is that it's just very forgettable. And there have been people who did hate it on it's own merits. I just feel like the only reason people still talk about it is because it failed so badly.
@Ulfstigandr
@Ulfstigandr 4 года назад
Havent seen TLJ, bought Solo on the clearance rack. Cant say im impressed with it, zero rewatch ability there.
@insomn3ak
@insomn3ak 5 лет назад
This is the best explanation and analysis of this that I’ve seen. Awesome job man.
@EvanSol919
@EvanSol919 5 лет назад
I honestly can't wait till Episode 9 bombs. It will be so entertaining!
@RonWylie-gk5lc
@RonWylie-gk5lc 5 лет назад
Yes it will be fun, lots will pay but many wont. The Last Jedi ONLY made money because we were expecting something great {I like the JJ film} , IF I had read honest reviews I wouldn't have paid to see it, THIS TIME we know and it will bomb
@KeldorDAntrell
@KeldorDAntrell 5 лет назад
There's a possible bonus here too. The SJW clique within Disney is *obliged* to stand by Kennedy and defend her, and point the finger of blame at 'online trolls and misogynists', because this is a *cause* for them, a deeply held, 'righteous' belief; so much so that, combined with the enormous size of the investment put into Kennedy and the Star Wars franchise under her, Disney just might double-down on her in the hope that they can ride it out, suffering not just a movie that bombs but also a domino effect collapse of everything about the Star Wars brand that then hurts the *Disney* brand. If the merchanding takes a huge hit, and the potential Star Wars TV shows and deals fall through, and Disney then takes a noticeable hit on the stock market which then makes the international news, Kathleen Kennedy's dismissal could end up as some kind of historical milestone which sees women in Hollywood set back half a century.
@kloschuessel773
@kloschuessel773 5 лет назад
EvanSol919 there already is so little hype... John wick will be more succesfull
@skyroe2
@skyroe2 4 года назад
@@KeldorDAntrell Kennedy will be looked at as the Hillary Clinton of film industry lmao
@louisblackforester
@louisblackforester 5 лет назад
STAR WARS 1977-2012 (2014) !
@MASTEROFEVIL
@MASTEROFEVIL 5 лет назад
2014?
@louisblackforester
@louisblackforester 5 лет назад
The discontinuation of the Expanded Universe !
@MASTEROFEVIL
@MASTEROFEVIL 5 лет назад
@@louisblackforester oh
@GabzitoHD
@GabzitoHD 5 лет назад
Star Wars to me is episode 1-6. I liked Rogue One and Solo tho. All I'm thankful for with the new star wars movies are that people are starting to appreciate the prequels more lol.
@agamemnonofmycenae5258
@agamemnonofmycenae5258 5 лет назад
This just shows how bad the new franchise turned out to be.TFA while not great,was at least enjoyable.TLJ was so bad,so terrible,that it made me revise my opinion about the TFA too.What flaws the TFA had,are multiplied tenfold in the TLJ.Rey Sue is even more powerful,woman is always right believe blindly,disruptive comedy,skippable arcs,bad character actions and plans,revision of established characters out of thin air,disrespect to older movies so no wonder it pissed me off as well as every other fan off!
@user-dc4bl1cu2k
@user-dc4bl1cu2k 5 лет назад
For me it's 4-6 and the Ewok Adventure films. Even if they had magic in them.
@philliprandle9075
@philliprandle9075 5 лет назад
TFA and TLJ make the Hoilday special a good film!
@aaron75fy
@aaron75fy 5 лет назад
@@agamemnonofmycenae5258 that's true, the only redeeming scene was the witty banter between Poe and Leia when he started his plan making many think (prematurely) that the resistance...oops sorry the "rebels" had a command structure that showed value between the ranks then it was "men wrong women should be in charge and you're wrong to disagree" for the majority of the movie
@thescrybe
@thescrybe 5 лет назад
Very true. The new movies sparked so many people to go back watch the originals. Myself included. You really appreciate George Lucas' craftsmanship. And the stark contrast to the story telling (or lack thereof) in the new trilogy.
@markauyeong1270
@markauyeong1270 5 лет назад
The Fox Disney deal is the reason why Solo was realeased so soon after TLJ. Bob Iger say's so in his comment that you quote in this video. The merger is the reason why Disneys release schedule was so front loaded in 2018. Everything to pump up the stock price, before the first offer to Fox shareholders. In my opinnion you are totally right why they haven't fired Kathleen Kennedy. Fireing her would signal to everybody that Star Wars is in deep trouble. Same reason for the silence on the Rian Johnson trilogy, canceling it would mean TLJ was a failure for Disney and that is a message they don't want to go out. Disney is hoping that time and cool trailers for episode 9 will bring fans back, we will see. My anticipation for episode 9 is zero! But my morbid curiosity how they stich together their mess is a ten.
@harrisd1983
@harrisd1983 5 лет назад
Same here, but I am going to wait til it is available on Disney Plus.
@Malum09
@Malum09 5 лет назад
Mark Auyeong the producer related to the Johnson trilogy keeps saying that we will see it in 2 years, which is reasonable time to develop a new film
@ianmaluk1
@ianmaluk1 5 лет назад
It's a bit late to be trying to save face now, isn't it? Because the longer they try to deny the severity of the situation at hand, then it's going to do more damage to them in the long run. If Solo's failure is anything to go by, then the next film isn't going to fair much better. If Episode Nine tanks, which seems more and more likely everyday, then Disney won't be able to recoup any of the losses from their previous investments into Star Wars.
@MWcrazyhorse
@MWcrazyhorse 5 лет назад
Unless they nuke the entire identity politics set up and start over I am not giving them a penny.
@harrisd1983
@harrisd1983 5 лет назад
@@ianmaluk1 if Disney were smart they wouldn't make another SW movie until KK is gone. Just use the TV shows to keep SW in the public attention.
@roeosso
@roeosso 5 лет назад
we need boycot star wars IX
@lalacthulhu7135
@lalacthulhu7135 5 лет назад
TLJ is the one and only reason for SOLO tanking so hard. Blaming Star Wars fatigue or release dates is a smokescreen. Solo was actually not that bad. Nor is Alden Erhenreich as an actor. Woody Harrelson on the other hand tend to appear in mediocre films, by most peoples standards. All in all SOLO beats TLJ by a longshot. But in all honesty that's not a hard thing to do.
@rodrigomarcondes5857
@rodrigomarcondes5857 5 лет назад
to quote Kevin Smith " In Hollywood, you fail upwards"
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 5 лет назад
@Greg Elchert He didn't try to ruin Superman Lives. Quite frankly, even with his fixations, Superman Lives was on its way to be great. Heck, Smith himself admitted that the succeeding script(s) were better than his own.
@maxbootstrap7397
@maxbootstrap7397 5 лет назад
JarJarKennedy... what a waste. Like Cam Mitchel said, "Gee, politics sucks no matter what planet you're on"... to which Teal'C naturally replied, "Indeed".
@Dargonhuman
@Dargonhuman 5 лет назад
Did ... did you just make a StarGate SG-1 reference under a Star Wars video? ... I think I love you, and that quote is so on point.
@maxbootstrap7397
@maxbootstrap7397 5 лет назад
@@Dargonhuman : What can I say, except... "Indeed I did". With the possible exception of Firefly, SG1 and SGA are my favorite sci-fi TV. Love back at ya. :-)
@MrOrmanley
@MrOrmanley 5 лет назад
Oh man, that 23:45 image reminded how much they shafted poor Mark Hamill. For 99% of the video I was fine mostly, now I feel depressed again.
@alanlovett475
@alanlovett475 5 лет назад
Logically sound, mature, and respectfully done. Great work!
@williamjones3534
@williamjones3534 5 лет назад
Andre What I think is that you made a very well researched and impartial video. These are things I have come to expect from Midnights edge.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 5 лет назад
I hope Episode 9 bombs. I don't care about these characters or anything having to do with this trilogy
@AdamaForPresident
@AdamaForPresident 5 лет назад
Finally someone that understands the appeal of interest characters like Yaddle!!!
@w4tkn
@w4tkn 5 лет назад
@@AdamaForPresident What point are you trying to make?
@omnitheus5442
@omnitheus5442 5 лет назад
Yeah Luke deserved more respect. When you make a character's arc so unbeliever this is what results. Completely daft.
@MASTEROFEVIL
@MASTEROFEVIL 5 лет назад
Solo already bombed
@doomslayer4786
@doomslayer4786 5 лет назад
I wish Legends would still be considered canon...
@Indubidably0
@Indubidably0 5 лет назад
I saw Solo free when a friend brought a downloaded copy over(long after it'd already left theaters). Alden wasn't bad, the movie was actually good by all standards I have for a movie. TLJ absolutely is the reason it bombed financially. It is THE reason I won't pay to see another SW movie or buy a single pice of SW merchandise for myself or my children for as long as I live. Solo being enjoyable didn't shake that decision at all and nothing shy of completely refilming an entirely new episode 8(which I know will never happen) will change my mind. Not only did they thoroughly destroy THE greatest fictional hero in my life(Luke Skywalker) but they made Star Wars into a vehicle of full leftist authoritarian propaganda so blatant that a purple haired feminazi, who existed solely to undermine and emasculate the lone competent male lead, kamikaze'd the right wing off of "The Supremacy." You really don't get any more on the nose than that.
@JohnBrowser2013
@JohnBrowser2013 5 лет назад
Great comment, and sadly this concept is what Disney management either refuses to see, or refuses to accept. Although I won't watch it, I have no doubt Solo was better than TLJ; it lost money for no other reason than boycotting Solo was the only recourse left to consumers in the wake of TLJ.
@MJ-xb5ux
@MJ-xb5ux 5 лет назад
No its not. Solo failed because no one cares for a han solo origin
@tri-edge4309
@tri-edge4309 5 лет назад
the sad thing is. even if they attempt to remake episode 8, it will never have the same impact a GOOD episode 8 had when it first launched. it already had big shoes to fill coming from TFA which is essentially a rehash of A New Hope with a lot of sad plot holes, but Carrie Fisher is not with us anymore. i doubt anything they make moving forward as a course correction for that abhorent treatment of legacy characters would ever be enough. they had their chance. and they missed it, and all for pushing far leftist views.
@sebastienmccarthy1483
@sebastienmccarthy1483 5 лет назад
ronald jan pisano I agree with the war profiteering sub plot, but the feminazi shit needs to go
@rutgerb
@rutgerb 5 лет назад
@@sebastienmccarthy1483 that is very facist of you
@rayalex7794
@rayalex7794 4 года назад
Disney you’ve destroyed my beloved Star Wars!😞
@joshuagayouauthor8401
@joshuagayouauthor8401 5 лет назад
Good God, man. You should change the name of your channel from Midnight's Edge to The Oracle of Delphi.
@kyleshockley1573
@kyleshockley1573 5 лет назад
"Know thyself. Nothing overmuch. A pledge, and ruin is near." Boy, those latter two Disney. Maybe a fourth apothegm; "A snowball is funner than an avalanche."
@NiveaCow
@NiveaCow 5 лет назад
So Disney thinks that keeping someone who fans openly hate is better then hiring a new executive? Ok. I don;t mind TLJ, honestly. Bad movies happen. Shitting on me by directors and and executive is unforgivable though. So no money from me.
@vonfaustien3957
@vonfaustien3957 5 лет назад
Same i hate episodes 1 and 2 as much as the new ones but i still saw 3 and 7 and i still bought books and games. After 8 and being called a sexist nazi because i thought weponized light speed brakes the universes concept of warfare, that the canto bright part was pointless, that luke was wasted and that everyone heros and villains acted like utter morons. Well im out scifi isnt limited to star wars after all and id rather suport somone who isnt going to insult me.
@NiveaCow
@NiveaCow 5 лет назад
@@vonfaustien3957 the best part is - they are misgendering me. I am not a "manbaby" cause I am a woman. And I am so ashamed of how women were portrayed in this movie. These are not strong females, these are two idiots and a Mary Sue. Guys too. But they were trying to show how men are stupid. So it was their point. But where are those strong complex female characters I was promised? xD
@apachehelicopter9032
@apachehelicopter9032 5 лет назад
Objectively and subjectively TLJ is absolutely appalling, Star Wars film or not the content is so bad the mind boggles it was allowed out by Disney at all. Not getting another penny and haven't done since this far enough and I am the kind of dick who owns a 400 quid lightsaber and every film on multiple formats. Another good thing f'ed up by politics and just god awful incompetence
@lalacthulhu7135
@lalacthulhu7135 5 лет назад
@@NiveaCow My wife and friends are with you there. But yeah they do go out of their way to make Star Wars into Gender Wars. Which might make a good comedic setting, but doesn't belong in Star Wars.
@cidmontenegro
@cidmontenegro 5 лет назад
I think Solo would have done better if KK and RJ didn't write off the criticisms of the film and attack the fans. I just watched Solo for the first time a couple weeks ago (so I guess a year after TLJ?), I didn't think it was so bad. I felt the main character did a fine job. Some things like the giant monsters were cringy, but overall I was satisfied. As far as KK's 3 year extension, I would bet money it has to do with stuff already in development she has her fingerprints on. I.e. get episode IX out, the mandalorians, and anything else she has had input on. Start nothing new with her. That way Disney can wrap up all lose ends of KK and anyone new coming in has a basically clean slate to work with and not have to worry about the KK era.
@Snugg-P
@Snugg-P 4 года назад
Yo you are dead on on accurate that's exactly why they kept her on cause think about it! Only 3 yrs why not 7 or 10. Its how long till what ever she got her phalanges sunk into are predicted to be wrapped up with filming and out in the theater's, only thing that can save her half wit ass is if these films are a smash hit at the box office until then she better make a few power moves to keep her ass above water and land a position else where that is as close to the position she has now or as adequate. .
@ArmandoDy
@ArmandoDy 5 лет назад
Last Jedi went to shit, as soon as Leia Poppins flew through space. Ryan Johnson and whoever signed off on this thing, are to blame. The ending battle scene was to short, and a joke. Empire was better.
@sebastienmccarthy1483
@sebastienmccarthy1483 5 лет назад
Armando Dy it should’ve ended with Kylo teaching out his hand
@Ninja_Skillz
@Ninja_Skillz 4 года назад
I think it went to shit like 30 seconds in when Poe was crackin your momma jokes.
@justfriends7581
@justfriends7581 4 года назад
JUST STOP i legit thought it was a spaceballs rip off when I saw the first 30seconds on Netflix. I instantly changed it to spaceballs lol
@monstermikeheinrichs
@monstermikeheinrichs 4 года назад
Just Friends I saw something on Reddit last month that shows that TLJ ripped off quite a bit from Spaceballs. I always thought people were joking when they said that Rian Johnson made a sequel to Spaceballs, but apparently, he just rehashed it.
@monstermikeheinrichs
@monstermikeheinrichs 4 года назад
The Phantom Menace was better than TLJ. At least TPM had good world building, some interesting characters, and was definitely building towards something, both in it's own movie, and in the series.
@lorenzoamato953
@lorenzoamato953 5 лет назад
Andre's videos remain the best coverage on just any given subject he touches upon. Always informative, clear, fair. Can't wait for next video!
@melabbott1894
@melabbott1894 5 лет назад
Pretty spot on analysis. I would also add that Iger is taking into account the culture war. Firing her now would only lead to mass cries of misogynistic motivations. He is betting on Episode 9 flopping and giving him cover. No one will be able to argue against firing her after back to back flops on top of TLJ backlash.
@petercarioscia9189
@petercarioscia9189 5 лет назад
Do you really think he's betting on 9 flopping to clear the way to fire Krazy Kennedy? Ugh...yea I guess that checks out...fucking autist liberals
@kylerknowles7823
@kylerknowles7823 5 лет назад
Why would he want one of his biggest film properties to flop? That makes no sense at all
@marceichelsheim1740
@marceichelsheim1740 5 лет назад
So sacrificing another episode on the altar of postmodernist intersectionality?
@melabbott1894
@melabbott1894 5 лет назад
@@kylerknowles7823 Because he is a business man watching his cash cow be destroyed. He's willing to take the small one time hit and move it a new direction that will make him boatloads of money over a long period of time. My guess is he moves away from New Republic content all together for a while and focuses on established Old Republic characters. We'll see a complete reset for Star Wars after this episode.
@mariokarter13
@mariokarter13 5 лет назад
It's the DCEU all over again, but without the personal tragedy to give them a chance to boot her out the door (yet).
@ericalbertson4942
@ericalbertson4942 5 лет назад
You have earned a subscriber! Great work my man!
@DTavona
@DTavona 5 лет назад
Like the schizophrenic treatment that Star Trek has suffered (with its rights divided like a carcass by Paramount and CBS, with no one in charge who actually knows how to tell a good story, the Disney movies since the sale by Lucas have been horribly bad. The stories do not pay attention to what went on before. The stories are not written as SF, but have veered off into Science fantasy. The characters act out of character. And no hate toward the young actress, but the Mary Sue Jedi acted like she knew best and was powerful enough to "not need" the other players at all; the others were casualties, not supporting cast. So, yes, this is absolutely Kennedy's fault. And the board, for putting her in charge, and letting her continue to make those mistakes. Like Zack in charge of the DCEU; he's capable of making decent films, but his overall tendency is toward pretty dark themes. Yes, he helped make Wonder Woman, but the overall guiding hand was Patty Jenkins, who respected her material enough that even with it being a reboot of the source, it was still excellent. In Batman vs Superman, the ONLY bright spot was when Gal Gadot showed up, and even Joss Whedon couldn't save the dark, pessimistic mess. So, yeah, I'm mad about a lot of franchises being mangled by suits who simply don't understand their properties enough to replicate the previous success; or even how to make good movies -- plot, characterizations true to the character's own past, and let the rest fall where it may. Without a good story, people will discover that. CGI looks great, even fantastic at times, but it never could carry an entire movie. And when you have characters act out of character, you feel compelled to take them for mental health counseling -- which only works if the person causing the problem (in this case, the studio heads) agree to participate in getting help.
@oiops
@oiops 5 лет назад
KK just doesn't get it.
@acerard
@acerard 5 лет назад
I don't know which scenario is worse, if she gets it, or not.
@kviesgaard
@kviesgaard 5 лет назад
What I like about these videos, is how things are put into perspective, or should I say context. Now the extention of Kathleen Kennedys contract makes a bit of sense. Also happy New Year and congrats on 90.000 subskribers. Well done and well earned.
@joesam7744
@joesam7744 5 лет назад
Couple that with Andre's soothing narrative voice-over makes all the difference.
@kviesgaard
@kviesgaard 5 лет назад
Well you should never underestimate the power of a great voice ( like Darth Vader, G1 Optimus Prime and Megatron ), I personally believe that we have to give some credit to the professionalism and research, that is put in to these videos as well.
@riboflavinfolate3964
@riboflavinfolate3964 5 лет назад
@Mists & Shadows Umm, white Jews have been destroying the image and masculinity of black males for faar longer than they have white males. Just search RU-vid for videos of all of the black male actors who have worn dresses in movies and TV shows. It's like a rite of passage that has been forced on black male actors for decades. White Jews have been attempting to pacify and effeminate black males for a long time. While what white males are experiencing is very recent. Too soon to complain TBH.
@captainasher287
@captainasher287 5 лет назад
Fun fact in Indiana Jones temple of doom Kathleen is one of the dancers in anything goes.
@yogidemis8513
@yogidemis8513 4 года назад
Great, are you trying to ruin that movie too Captain Asher!
@Sanscripter
@Sanscripter 4 года назад
@@yogidemis8513 lol
@chriscosby7909
@chriscosby7909 5 лет назад
I think Mark Hamill should be hired to run Lucasfilm.
@kaisercalvin1742
@kaisercalvin1742 4 года назад
He pretty much is Luke skywalker. He would do an amazing job.
@mmorpger0558
@mmorpger0558 5 лет назад
We need someone who loves Star Wars running it, not this hate monger.
@WeyounLP
@WeyounLP 5 лет назад
Most franchises get run by people who have no real idea what made them good. Star trek is taken hostage by CBS for example, a company that couldnt care less about it.
@Dragonage2ftw
@Dragonage2ftw 5 лет назад
Kathleen does love SW.
@Dragonage2ftw
@Dragonage2ftw 5 лет назад
Emperor Pepe Flavius Memus Kathleen made 3 of the highest grossing films of all time under her leadership at Lucasfilm. Dry your tears, please.
@joeydubbs763
@joeydubbs763 5 лет назад
The problem with Star wars is not "loving or hating" the franchise, it's loving or hating men & western society. The undertones & OP female leads/ bumbling, asinine male characters & SJW narrative are what's tanking a once great & cherished symbol of strength, good v evil & the "truth, justice, American way" type movies.
@billybarnett9518
@billybarnett9518 5 лет назад
Kathleen Kennedy was good when she was behind movies she liked.
@varanid9
@varanid9 5 лет назад
When an actor "makes a role his own" that's doublespeak for "he can't play the role as it should be played".
@nicks.1020
@nicks.1020 5 лет назад
varanid9 This is sort of true, but at the same time some of the best characters are ones where the actors own quirks and personality show in the character. It doesn’t have to override the writers and characters written personality, but characters like Han Solo shouldn’t be stagnant as a character. I think Ehrenreich did a good job at portraying a natural “devolution” of Han as a younger, less experienced Han while still staying true to the source.
@chimpwimp9407
@chimpwimp9407 5 лет назад
@@nicks.1020 The character Vaas from Far Cry 3 comes to mind. That character was supposed to be completely different.
@Dargonhuman
@Dargonhuman 5 лет назад
Like all things of this nature, there are good and bad examples of this. Armin Shimmerman played Quark completely different than intended in order to "legitimize" the Ferengi as a race that should be respected by Trekkies because he felt that his earlier portrayal of Letek was a massive disservice to the Ferengi which stemmed from following the stage directions too closely, and to this day many DS9 fans name Quark as one of their favorite characters. But, for every Armin Shimmerman, there are a dozen Adam Sandlers and Kevin James' who don't know how to do any character other than themselves and overuse the excuse "I made the role my own" to deflect attention from their pitifully narrow range. Don't get me wrong, I loved Kevin James in King of Queens, and some of Adam Sandler's early work was pretty good, but after they both did the exact same character just with different names and costumes too many times in a row, it became painfully obvious that they, as you said, were using that excuse as doublespeak for "I don't know how to portray that character."
@brionbee
@brionbee 5 лет назад
Disney in 20 years: "Cats everywhere love our new Star Wars blockbuster! Its the 9th in our "new format" approach to Disney classics. Even though she is incoherent and elderly, Kathleen Kennedy (our new president, owner, and creative director) thought we should completely abandon writing movies adult humans enjoyed to instead cater to the cats, who as you very well know, have been thoroughly underrepresented in lead acting roles. The response has been mixed, but we are confident in our new direction. And the American Cat Liberties Union has really seen previously impossible inroads in cat inclusion in all levels of the workforce and politics. It might not look like what movies used to look like, but we feel we are doing something higher than simply making good movies."
@artreyoo
@artreyoo 4 года назад
I really like how you do your videos. I very much like that you can just listen to them while doing creative work for example. That relaxing pad underneath sets a great tone to the quite serious way of narration. It's calm and your pace is well chosen. The quality of your content is also super informative and shows how much work goes into it. Great stuff Midnight's Edge.
@omegafire6253
@omegafire6253 5 лет назад
Let episode 9 burn, burn it to the box office ground. We have the power.
@Kaefer1973
@Kaefer1973 5 лет назад
Nah if it turns out to be a good movie, I'll watch it (it's very unlikely at this point, but miracles may happen).
@bubrub5564
@bubrub5564 5 лет назад
@@Kaefer1973 Well, then watch it online for free instead of paying for a ticket.
@Kaefer1973
@Kaefer1973 5 лет назад
@@bubrub5564 I watch 1 or 2 movies a year in cinema, and always only those I know are good enough that I want to send the signal "more of this please", by supporting them in the theaters. So yes, probably not gonna happen for Star Wars, since I never had that feeling since the original trilogy.
@Phourc
@Phourc 5 лет назад
You guys really don't - and it's going to be JJ "Mystery Box" Abrams again. I'm not very hopeful for it, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
@runisa
@runisa 5 лет назад
I hope ep9 is good tho even if the last Jedi suck we don’t want more bad movies in Star Wars yes I will go see ep 9 it the last movie in the trilogy
@reginajanelilianapatterson5838
"Misogynistic racist" for not accepting The Last Jedi (or any of the new "canon's" content at all, for that matter)? That is a cop out of the highest order. The Expanded Universe, for all it's flaws, has tonnes of diversity and strong female characters. The Social Justice Warriors would have gotten their way even if episodes 7-9 were EU book adaptations. Radical feminists would have had their heroines in the likes of Jaina Solo, Mara Jade, and Tenel Ka Djo. There were opportunities where you can make diversity, too. Hell, no one really ever said a sequel trilogy or any other sort of post-Return of the Jedi follow up material would necessarily have to be a verbatim book adaptation anyway, but could be heavily informed and inspired by the EU's plethora of viable material to continue the mythos the way the Millennial fans actually expect. I never want to hear that someone who doesn't agree with the results of Kennedy's power trip called racist and/or misogynistic. That's a knee-jerk cop out with no basis for concern. Its not the female lead character or the presence of prominent African American actors that bothers us. If Star Wars (especially EU Star Wars) tries to teach us anything in terms of a positive, ideal society, it's tolerance, acceptance, and equality for everyone and that race, ultimately, only matters in terms of species as opposed to mere skin colour... and even then, you still treat aliens with the same dignity you treat other Humans. There's no place for accusations of "racism" except against Human-supremacist Imperial types.... which, of course, should and does help paint the Empire as the evil tyrannical organization it is supposed to be in the mythos and thus makes you cheer on the Rebellion/New Republic even more (since they live by principals of egalitarianism). Ugh! Some people are too sensitive and take sociopolitical issues a bit too seriously.
@sticks5614
@sticks5614 5 лет назад
You brought up some good points but you missed out one important one. The three female characters who you mentioned and would've made absolutely brilliant hero's are all white! The radicals would've never have excepted that even though the whole EU SW universe is absolutely diverse and all about good v's evil, they don't care as it doesn't fit THEIR agenda and therefore it's wrong.
@alienspacebat5218
@alienspacebat5218 5 лет назад
No, the authoritarian left would never have accepted old EU/Legends heroines, and not because they're all white, either. It's because they: -Face real challenges and hardships -Have clearly defined goals -Are complex characters -Are dynamic characters -Are realistic characters -Work with, not against, the men in their lives -Have interesting character designs -Have interesting backstories -Fit well into the setting -Drive the plot forward And, because of all that, are likeable to men and women with no spite against men for being men.
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus 5 лет назад
They are kind of misogynistic racists. To me, these people sound like they're so fixated on the fact there's a diverse cast that they keep track of each character's actor's race and gender to analyze the politics. The Last Jedi has no more of a "social justice" agenda than any other modern tentpole Hollywood blockbuster. Hollywood in general is moving towards more diverse casts, probably for the better. And I didn't even like The Last Jedi - admittedly though to me it just came across as another okay-ish blockbuster movie rather than a complete travesty (still having problems comprehending that though, especially given how much of the hate appears to be politically motivated). Heck, I didn't like Ocean's Eight. I don't like what I've seen of Ghostbusters 2016, and I left a dislike on that movie's initial trailer for heaven's sake. Doesn't change the fact that saying The Last Jedi is incredibly bad because of a "social justice" (I do not think you know what that means, really) agenda is unbelievably loaded with unfortunate implications, like that you believe white men are the default and anyone else is only allowed in to make a "political" statement, or that the diverse cast is to blame as if there aren't tons and tons of bad movies made every day when you act as if SJW movies are the only bad ones or the worst ones. If a film has a cast more diverse than just mostly white men, saying it's bad is not bigoted, but saying it's bad and then acting like that's a reason why, is quite sexist and racist.
@moserfugger6363
@moserfugger6363 5 лет назад
@@LinkMarioSamus Oh, seems like, you drank a whole barrel kool-aid. Or you just love building straw men. The majority of SW fans never had a problem with diversity. Just like Ambrose Burnout stated in the comment above, the problem isn't having more diverse characters. With movies like TLJ the main complaints are geared towards the writing of those characters. No matter if they're old or new, white or black, male or female etc. Luke became a caricature and new characters like Holdo, Rose or Phasma were either completely useless or very blandly written. Especially Holdo may be one of the worst examples for a female character I've ever seen in a movie. But you can go on playing the sexist and racist card instead of looking at the issues most of the fans actually complained about.
@cobraglatiator
@cobraglatiator 5 лет назад
@@moserfugger6363 i wouldn't say linkmariosamus drank a barrel of kool-aid, but maybe he's had a few too many glasses....
@devilsadvocate22289
@devilsadvocate22289 5 лет назад
As usual, your vid is superbly done and very informative! I live for your vid commentaries!
@thomashaberl2858
@thomashaberl2858 5 лет назад
Completely get the Clouseau analogy, Great!!
@PunksterOS
@PunksterOS 5 лет назад
It maybe would have done better but I doubt it, we would have had the backlash regardless after The Last Jedi. Their response towards the fans is so out of touch. I hear Solo is actually decent but I have no interest in it or anything else these people poop out.
@PunksterOS
@PunksterOS 5 лет назад
As for the "Course Correction," I believe they will only really retcon Rey's backstory or to be more accurate, actually give her one now and they will proclaim that Kylo Ren was lying to her when he said her parents were nobodies and they will want to make 'Force Users' more unique again. They had a perfect opportunity to do something different when Kylo Ren asked Rey to join her and leave it all behind. Even though nothing had been earned for that proposal to make sense, I was hoping that Rey would say yes and give us something new. I can't see them changing that either but that may pique my interest again, at least then her Mary Sue-ness would be more tolerable to watch. So many squandered opportunities. Star Wars was about Luke Skywalker, without him the series is meaningless to me. Make something new, please.
@zzygyy
@zzygyy 5 лет назад
Solo = 6/10 B movie scfi adventure. Only reason I saw it, Just being in the star wars environment. The star ships the building design the alien races.
@CarlosCMTF
@CarlosCMTF 5 лет назад
It woudn't have made a difference in the box office numbers but the fan response would probably be more clear minded than it was in May where everyone was still shell-shocked due to TLJ. Besides people tend to be more "joyfull" around christmas time and therefore less cynican about going to see the movie even though the opinion on the state of SW would still be the same or even worse than it was in May.
@haydn-db8z
@haydn-db8z 5 лет назад
Solo is the first Star Wars movie that I haven't seen upon release. I'll maybe stream it for free at some point, but otherwise won't be seeing it. I have no plans to see IX.
@danroemer2552
@danroemer2552 5 лет назад
"I hear Solo is actually decent" Nah.
@brandonmuse5532
@brandonmuse5532 5 лет назад
Some extremely intriguing Hollywood Politics.
@combinecommando001
@combinecommando001 5 лет назад
That's some Game of Throne shit right there.
@jguenther3049
@jguenther3049 5 лет назад
Yes, because conservatives don't let politics get in the way of making a profit.
@MNanme1z4xs
@MNanme1z4xs 5 лет назад
KK makes great SW actor, her face has that Sith vibe.
@Vermiliontea
@Vermiliontea 4 года назад
Kasdan's proper question should be: "What if Solo had been released before 'The Last Jedi'?"
@combeechan
@combeechan 5 лет назад
Kathleen's three years: 2019: Episode IX 2020: Hiatus 2021: Side Movie 2022: Hiatus (Kathleen's contract ends) Yeah, she's likely going to be replaced in 2022. See you then, everyone!
@Dug6666666
@Dug6666666 5 лет назад
Her past years as producer 1981 Raiders of the lost ark 1982 Poltergeist 1982 ET 1984 Temple of Doom 1993 Jurassic Park 1993 Schindler's List 2005 War of the Worlds 2005 Munich 2012 Lincoln Personally I would be nervous about letting someone go to the opposition with a track record like that. I would be accessing how her role was different with those films (if at all) and what is different about Star Wars in this era and to these films.Perhaps she is just used to working with directors that understand the material instead of thinking they do and she has not had the need in the past to tread into that territory. I think the lesson to be learnt is if George Lukas does not have as much success with the prequels, why should furthering the story work either. George was smart to flog it off when he did.
@spunkybrewster1972
@spunkybrewster1972 5 лет назад
@@Dug6666666 And she was a office worker on those films with no say in their creative direction.
@spunkybrewster1972
@spunkybrewster1972 5 лет назад
The terrifying date will be 2023, when they the original recast Star Wars characters and reboot the original trilogy.
@Dug6666666
@Dug6666666 5 лет назад
@@spunkybrewster1972 She has done well for herself as an office worker.
@nhagan001
@nhagan001 5 лет назад
@@Dug6666666 Funny, I don't recall those movies being DIRECTED by her....
@SUPERTROOPER89
@SUPERTROOPER89 5 лет назад
Brilliant analysis, and the one that makes the most sense. No hate or histrionics, just a cool, cold breakdown. A voice of sanity in Star Warsland!? Shit it really is 2019. Happy new year Sir.
@lauramcdougal3952
@lauramcdougal3952 5 лет назад
Solo was twice the movie of TFA & TLJ. People didn't go as the press poo=pooed Solo as an inferior movie with new actors, but in reality, it had more action and suspense than 7 or 8. Solo was a much more enjoyable movie!
@lalacthulhu7135
@lalacthulhu7135 5 лет назад
I agree
@barklordofthesith2997
@barklordofthesith2997 5 лет назад
R1 is the only decent Disney SW film imho.
@tangohotellima1895
@tangohotellima1895 4 года назад
Good point! For all their faults, Solo had fun and Rogue One had gravitas. As stories, both weren't as good as the OT (which they had to live up to...), but I do agree that they were more interesting than Ep 7/8. So, R1 succeeded, and Solo failed, both for extrinsic reasons. Such is the way of the world...
@OldWaveKid
@OldWaveKid 5 лет назад
Dave Filoni would be do a way better job as Star Wars director. He really cares about the series and listened to George Lucas when making the clone wars
@TJTrusty111
@TJTrusty111 5 лет назад
I’ll watch episode 9 but I will NOT spend one cent of my money doing so. Just like many people who are old enough to have seen episode 4 in the theater in the 70’s, I’ve spent hundreds of dollars over the years on SW movie tickets, VHS/DVD collections, digital copies, etc. All of that is over. I predict that ep 9 will set a record for the most widely pirated film of all time. Meaning the most views with the least amount of actual sales.
@jdssnake
@jdssnake 5 лет назад
Same, I'm going to see if it's good before I go to the theater to watch it.
@14bis42
@14bis42 5 лет назад
I saw the first one on theaters in 1977 too. And I spent a lot of money on SW all these decades . But when TLJ ended, right there on the theater I decided that I will never give SW-disney a cent on any new movies.
@twogruden9943
@twogruden9943 5 лет назад
Same here and agreed. No more.
@luizfelipevbf5567
@luizfelipevbf5567 5 лет назад
I doubt it will beat GoT season 7. It was pirated over A BILLION TIMES
@hermannabt8361
@hermannabt8361 5 лет назад
I seriously doubt there is enough interest to even pirate this movie.
@joshualc0708
@joshualc0708 5 лет назад
I wonder if George Lucas watches these kinds of videos
@humansvd3269
@humansvd3269 5 лет назад
Doubtful. I think he's regretting selling it. For the good and bad of the original prequels, this was still his baby and the prequels weren't that bad in hindsight. I still enjoyed them over the new turds that have come out, with the exception of Rogue One.
@Akm72
@Akm72 5 лет назад
@@humansvd3269 I'm sure he'd regret it if he wasn't busy counting his billions.
@nhagan001
@nhagan001 5 лет назад
@@Akm72 I mean I would be ok with that too, but he will also have to live with the fact that he watched one of his greatest creations die. Like Terminator 3, but Lucas bought the Bunker he retreated to with money he made off the Nukes used on the world.
@Akm72
@Akm72 5 лет назад
@@nhagan001 I've had the impression that he hasn't cared that much about Star Wars for a long time. He's already told the stories he was interested in telling (and those films still exist) and he's helped develop the underlying technology to allow fantastic universes to be created on screen, which appears to have always been one of his primary interests. Everything else Star Wars related, including the expanded universe, was just money. EDIT: I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with that by the way. It is understandable that he'd have preferred to be remembered for more than just Star Wars and to have mixed feelings about it being his entire legacy.
@Dargonhuman
@Dargonhuman 5 лет назад
@@humansvd3269 Well, the prequels are still pretty bad, but their main issues are lack of focus or clear direction. They had some interesting stories and concepts in them, they just were never fully developed or capitalized on properly. A few minor tweaks to the editing, tightening up the scripts a bit and a better director to get good takes of the actors was all that was needed to make them good. The sequels, so far, have been just awful retreads of older movies or just terribly written garbage when they're trying to be original. Little short of a hard reset at this point could save them.
@crazyman8472
@crazyman8472 Год назад
Over three years later...we're still waiting for her to either move on or get moved. 🤦
@rerako4755
@rerako4755 5 лет назад
I'm still seeing starwars stuff in clearance bins everywhere...
@alecjones8235
@alecjones8235 5 лет назад
Keep up the boycott true Fans! Boycott until Disney makes a good product for us
@theelusive9625
@theelusive9625 5 лет назад
Everything you've said in this video makes perfect sense, as usual. Great stuff.
@valvarez6398
@valvarez6398 5 лет назад
You sir have got talent i dont usually sub unless its something i find interesting or for my kids but this is great content.
@Extremeredfox
@Extremeredfox 5 лет назад
So all those fans who warned us that this would happen when Kennedy took over were absolutely right. I think you could have Dave Filoni as the one running the content with a CEO savy executive handling the business.
@MajorVanBloodnok
@MajorVanBloodnok 5 лет назад
Everything about this 'culture war' stinks of political theatre. Disney wouldn't pay $4billion without keeping an eye on the writer's room (unless of course they have no idea what they're doing). The same thing happened to all media - news & criticism is now so embedded with the corporate product, it's as if every media owner has their own Extended Universe. People used to make a movie for it's own sake.
@darthsidious2653
@darthsidious2653 5 лет назад
I suspect the SJWism in The LJ was increased in reshoots to pander to critics and create a publicity stunt to boost the sales of a bad movie (like how Sony used media manipulation for Ghostbusters 2016). Holdo was apparently a more negative character before reshoots. And going by the released deleted scenes, Rose was given a bigger role in defeating Phasma and Finn was deemphathised in general. And I strongly suspect the story role of the bombers was altered in post production. They have to be able to jump to hyperspace for the story to make sense, so why would they move so slow and have poor shields? (And if they are slow then how did they come out of nowhere?) Why would the resistance use such shitty vehicles? (Maybe the super gun was used on the bombers in an earlier version.) What does Leia think Poe is trying to do at first? There's something very off about the opening battle. The First Order attacks the base first, Leia's ship is just sitting there, and she doesn't stop the bombers. Why would Lucasfilm intentionally damage Poe and Isaac's popularity when this subplot must have originally been written to sell the character? There's also the weird disconnect where Luke is supposedly going out to distract at the end before anyone knows there's a way out. The lightsaber "battle" seems like it was pieced together. And Luke grabs his side for some unknown reason before he dies.
@vaska00762
@vaska00762 5 лет назад
Disney is overall to blame for the Extended Universe with the Marvel films. Everyone in the industry sees that as the big profitable thing to do, and it lead to almost everything getting an extended universe, including DC. I think it's a flawed concept, one that only works well with former comic book IPs, and that's a big reason behind the franchises like Star Wars being milked for money, when Star Wars is a very creatively limited franchise. Red Letter Media pretty much summed up the problems with Star Wars. You either get space politics and whacky characters, or you get what the new films do. If you're interested in good film, then just forget about the big studios. SONY, Disney and.... uhh.... that's it since they both bought out most other studios, really only care about getting a cash cow and milking it for as low a budget as they can. Their focus has become quanitity over quality. Paramount is a mixed bag and Universal is at least pretty good with smaller IPs. Consider looking a lot more into smaller films or even foreign films, because those are made with a lot more artistic intent rather than making a big franchise make money.
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus 5 лет назад
@@darthsidious2653 Anyone who has this much of an issue with diversity in the new Star Wars films that they start scrutinizing over the race and gender of the actors is a horrible bigot. Case closed.
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus 5 лет назад
@@vaska00762 Okay, if I'm being charitable, I think the main problem with the current Star Wars trilogy is that the films are trying too hard to avoid the problems of past installments. The Force Awakens tried too hard not to be the prequels, so then people complained about it being too similar to the original trilogy (the set-up of The Force Awakens is actually quite different, but it does play out very similarly to the original film). The Last Jedi consequently tried too hard to avoid the pitfalls of both the prequels AND The Force Awakens and the end result was a film where stupid stuff happens with little explanation just to "subvert the audience's expectation" while constantly derailing the film's plot (which I felt was serviceable otherwise, but hell if I know). But then you could also make the argument that some subset of fans will inevitably get pissed off at a new Star Wars film anyway. The two major fixes I can propose to The Last Jedi, I can think of fan reactions that would be very negative to them.
@darthsidious2653
@darthsidious2653 5 лет назад
@@vaska00762 I don't agree with RLM at all. They must have not watched The Clone Wars, and many of their criticisms of the prequels are bullshit. Saying Star Wars is limited is like saying the crime, western, war, historical, religious, samurai, drama, and comedy genres are limited. Star Wars doesn't have the cheesy anything goes lack of rules that Star Trek and superhero franchises do (though it's been creeping into that territory), but it's not limited. It's a combination of a bunch of genres that are merged with space opera and sword and sorcery, and it hasn't fully exploited others like the spy and horror genres yet. It hasn't even fully exploited sci fi. (Though it needs to not go any further into fantasy.) Star Wars may be commercially limited because of it's need for high budgets though. They can't put out a bad Star Wars movie unless they use nostalgia.
@MGSBigBoss77
@MGSBigBoss77 5 лет назад
Best way to start the New Year is to hear Andre's voiceover on a brand new Midnight's Edge video topic of more recent news and speculation article on a Star Wars issue! Happy New Year folks!
@5555144
@5555144 5 лет назад
We have bad movie fatigue not franchise fatigue. Make good films not bad films! 😁😁
@Erlaxis
@Erlaxis 5 лет назад
Also, The Force Awakens is being reevaluated by many people who liked it at the time of its release.
@RayVision3D
@RayVision3D 5 лет назад
This is such a clear and concise analysis of the Lucasfilm situation. Thank you.
@Collin4486
@Collin4486 5 лет назад
She's being kept on as a potential scapegoat to blame in case projects like Episode 9 and beyond fail. That's her main role now.
@Dargonhuman
@Dargonhuman 5 лет назад
Or, as the video stated, "A human sacrifice".
@MikaelLV
@MikaelLV 5 лет назад
The statement at 13:34 is also very interesting because it doesn't mention Rian Johnson's upcoming trilogy at all. He has hopefully realized by now the amount of damage Rian has done to Star Wars with one movie alone.
@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 5 лет назад
Yep, that is covered in the previous Star Wars video;p
@MikaelLV
@MikaelLV 5 лет назад
@@MidnightsEdge Just discovered your channel with this video. :)
@zacharymcmillan2788
@zacharymcmillan2788 4 года назад
@ 1:32 - Yoda be lookin like Don Cheadle,"Don't touch me."😂😂😂
@jordanallison7105
@jordanallison7105 5 лет назад
That’s a good point. No one wants to be promoted to captain of a sinking ship.
@arthurdent9745
@arthurdent9745 5 лет назад
if in doubt bring the Russian Troll Bots out, it is way easier than admitting people dislike your movies.
@gokux75
@gokux75 5 лет назад
Remember in this day and age if a movie bombs it is everyone's fault, but the studio that made it.
@Hex-Mas
@Hex-Mas 5 лет назад
HAHA JIm hurt you.
@paulkenny5052
@paulkenny5052 5 лет назад
The reason I didn't see Solo was because I didn't feel compelled to go. I am very excited to see Marvell movies, and I was very excited to see the Lord of the Rings/Hobbit movies. But Star Wars has lost it for me. Episode VII was dumb, Rouge One was good, but Episode 8 was really bad. The stink was probably still in my nose when Solo came out and it wasn't around long enough. Meanwhile I was watching Dunkirk and the silly Churchill move. I really wanted to see those, Solo didn't get me excited enough. At least not after E8.
@ally_in_exodus
@ally_in_exodus 5 лет назад
This video has been like a medicinal balm, softly soothing my fandom wounds.
@castantino
@castantino 5 лет назад
The "Movie Fatigue" excuse is rather pathetic especially coming from a company that owns Marvel Studios.
@MichaelPohoreski
@MichaelPohoreski 5 лет назад
castantino Fans are tired of _shitty sequels._ Criticize Marvel movies for being formulaic but Marvel has numerous "decent" source material to work from. In contrast Disney HAD the extended / expanded Star Wars universe to draw upon but instead we get shit scripts, even worse acting, and bullshit SJW politics injected because they ignored it. Rich Evans from RedLetterMedia called out the problem a few years ago in their _Half in the Bag: Rogue One_ review at 10:28 **"See, the Star Wars universe; here's the dirty little secret -- it's very small and very limited"**
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 5 лет назад
@@MichaelPohoreski Doesn't that quote contradict your statement about having the EU to draw upon?
@boxtupos7718
@boxtupos7718 5 лет назад
Michael Pohoreski The EU is very huged and a lot is yet to be explored, Unexplored regions(outside the Galaxy), The Other world(an alternate universe, the hyperspace), in KOTOR( who or what are the builders?), and there are a lot more. Heck they could've had the Yuuzhan Vong attack in Episode 7, insteadt of rehash of The Empire, and that'll lead to Darth Krayt. But naaaah. We get a Mary Sue and an Angsty boy.
@MichaelPohoreski
@MichaelPohoreski 5 лет назад
jacoblgames That's precisely the point -- SW _had the potential_ for a huge, rich and interesting backdrop --instead they threw all of that EU out and painted themselves into a corner by remaking the same old crap over and over. Fans are sick of it.
@boxtupos7718
@boxtupos7718 5 лет назад
Michael Pohoreski "fAnZ JuZt dUn WaNt EnYtInG nEw"
@patrickmoreau7900
@patrickmoreau7900 5 лет назад
I was hesitant about this video but it is well thought out.
@silberpfeil8863
@silberpfeil8863 5 лет назад
THIS! my friend is a spot on observation and conclusion.
@Vinnywestside
@Vinnywestside 5 лет назад
yo great video. whats the music you use in your intro? its insane
@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 5 лет назад
Original composition by Tomas Stalvik, who also did the intro animation.
@mrofftopic2802
@mrofftopic2802 5 лет назад
What if it had been released around the holidays? They would blame the movie's performance on Mary Poppins, Aquaman, Bumblebee and Spidermen: Spider-Verse, instead of the mythical *Star Wars Fatigue and Deadpool 2.*
@mechajay3358
@mechajay3358 5 лет назад
_Phenomenal Analysis as always Andre._
@jadenkorr32
@jadenkorr32 5 лет назад
Good vid! You said some things the ‘toxic fandom’ had been saying but were ignored for some time now (namely why Solo failed and the hidden messages of Iger’s press release) and gave some great perspective on KKs extension/future. The one piece I wish you had covered was the consolation career achievement award she was given leading up to the extension. That would be a popular KK supporter counterpoint to claims of Disney distancing itself from KK. I still think you are spot on though, just wish that had been addressed.
@The50FirstState
@The50FirstState 5 лет назад
Your analysis is spot on in my opinion. Subscribed.
@lanceripplinger8352
@lanceripplinger8352 5 лет назад
Your sound reasoning and rational argument makes perfect sense. Never thought about it this way. Happy New Year! 😁
@GrahamCStrouse
@GrahamCStrouse 5 лет назад
lance ripplinger He’s Norwegian. They’re all like that...
@adameizen2753
@adameizen2753 5 лет назад
Any Star Wars film following The Last Jedi was doomed to fail simply because it was next in line. My problems with Disney Star Wars all due to lack of Story, something that Star Wars should NEVER, EVER have problems with! Star Wars is entirely STORY driven, it simply can't work without a decent story to weave a film around. The Force Awakens was basically a rerun of A New Hope (the first Star Wars film). Unfortunately it suffered from lazy, uninspired writing, the original film gave us a reason to fear the Empire immediately, TFA failed to do that. The First Order simply wasn't set up to look like a credible threat to anyone at the start of the film, and at that same point the Resistance served no purpose, just what were they resisting? Nothing that anyone I know could see at the start of TFA, the Resistance simply was not needed, until the new version of the failed Death Star destroyed the New Republic in a single shot (again, lazy storytelling). The only saving grace that TFA had was the new cast of characters, all of them had great potential, but all of them suffered at the hands of Lazy Storytellers who chose not to bother with explaining why their characters did anything, like Rey (who is not really a Mary Sue. A Mary Sue is the writer creating thenselves as a character so perfect that the character can't fail at anything, Rey just isn't that character, NO writer would create a Mary Sue and write it this badly!) learning to use the force so quickly without training. Or Hux, who comes off as a boarderline idiot who never would have made General due to friendly fire in the field long before he could be promoted that far. Those are just the two best examples of Lazy Character Writing that made the top of my list, the third being Kylo Ren removing his helmet (lost all the mystery and potential fear factor doing that) and his temper tantrums that made him look like a weak rehash of Anakin Skywalker. Almost all of my issues with TFA were forgivable considering it was the first installment of a trilogy, it may have been a rerun, but, it had a story. The story was watered down Star Wars that really didn't feel like it tied in with the first two trilogies, but it still felt like Star Wars. Rogue One was the closest anyone could get to the feel of the original trilogy, it wasn't a rerun, it was a bridge, it had a good storyline that, while a bit dry, didn't suffer from Lazy Writing and actually managed to tie the Prequel Trilogy to the Original in a way that honored both. The Last Jedi, supposedly the sequal to TFA, almost completely failed to feel like a Star Wars Film. It had some really good scenes that BELONG in a Star Wars film, but, it had no real story, very little continuity with the seven films that came before it and did everything it could to shit on everything that came before it and all the fans who supported the franchise for decades. Rian Johnson said he wanted to subvert our expectations with TLJ, he succeeded completely. I expected to get a good movie out of him, I expected it to feel like Star Wars, I expected to enjoy it and I expected it to make sense and tie into the movie it was supposed to be the sequel to... Expectations successfully subverted, congrats Rian, you are now on the auto boycot lists of millions of your former fans, great work! Basically The Last Jedi is what you get when the director throws a temper tantrum when told he had to make a sequel before he can film his own Star Wars Trilogy, extremely lazy writing and directing of a really bad fanfic film. Numbered Star Wars films should never be worse than stand alone films. I hope they never waste any more money on Rian. Solo: A Star Wars Story. This was actually a fun film, unfortunately it had the misfortune of being next in line after TLJ. It also wasn't helped by having the original director fired and replaced by Ron Howard, sorry Ron, you were the victim of TLJ backlash, I hope you can do your own Star Wars story in the future. This film had a decent story, felt like Star Wars, but, it should have had a much darker tone to it since it was about smugglers and criminals. Solo still felt like Star Wars. Unless Episode IX is split into three acts I really can't see how the Trilogy can be saved from the debacle that was The Last Jedi. May Rian Johnson never work in the Star Wars Universe again!
@Brando7778
@Brando7778 5 лет назад
I wholeheartedly agree. I am so glad to see there is enough venerable hate for Johnson. Good on all who do so venerably hate the man for destroying Star wars!!! It will take an exceptionally written story and script with amazing character to resurrect this. It can be resurrected!
@theimaginist3310
@theimaginist3310 5 лет назад
Agreed! Rian Johnson's deconstructionist, theme-based dumpster fire had absolutely no place in the Star Wars franchise! Who the hell wants to buy toys based off of Luke Skywalker milking an alien sea cow?!!
@renetenam344
@renetenam344 4 года назад
"I expected to get a good movie out of him, I expected to enjoy it and I expected it to make sense and tie into the movie it was supposed to be a sequel to... Expectations successfully subverted, congrats Rian" +1 my thoughts, exactly.
@Waydisturbed
@Waydisturbed 5 лет назад
Excellent and enlightening analysis! Thank you for sharing!
@opinian1068
@opinian1068 5 лет назад
Dude just refound your channel and I just so admire your research and care put into this. Nice to see a RU-vidr who banks on smarts, presentation and content over drama and clickbait. Got yourself a sub :) you inspire this fellow RU-vidr.
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