Such a pivotal moment in the series. Raynor spends his earlier cutscenes slipping away into the distance, especially fading into alcoholism. The burden of the visions Zeratul gave him is too much to handle. But as soon as he hears Tychus trying to talk shit on his name, he snaps out of it, and becomes the strong and rhetorically effective leader that everyone knows him to be. This isn't my favorite cutscene (especially with some of the ones in LOTV), but it is a damn good one that deserves every ounce of praise it gets.
@@jsels777 nah you’re right, it’s good storytelling and character building. We may not see it in Starcraft again for a long time but there’s always this to look back on.
Honestly? That's how you summarize how one man can lead a group of misfits and rebels into the fray- having a forgotten hero reemerge into the spotlight once more to dance with the devil's knife.
Tychus is bitter as Hell that he took the fall for Raynor and ended up in prison for life. Honestly, he was the best Goddamned friend a person could ever ask for. Jim was selfish trying to save that psychotic bitch Kerrigan when he had his boy Tychus at his back trying to straighten out all of the romantic nonsense going on in Jim's head.
@@HowDyaYouLikeMeNow But without Kerrigan, Amon would've been successful in destroying the galaxy... and also Tychus was already fated to die either by Jim or by Mingsk.... Tychus had little choice when u think about it..
@@EdgarTheOnion This all happened further down the track, Way before they knew anything about that. Jim didn't try to save the galaxy. He tried to save his piece and killed his best friend to do so.
@@HowDyaYouLikeMeNow kerrigan was some kind of choosen one. I'm pretty sure that if there would have been some kind of complication Zeratul would have appeared
You know, when I started playing the game, Raynor(having played Brood Wars to, like, 2/3 of the way) seemed to me like that lame, over-used, generic "Good Guy Hero". But as I went down the campaign line, he gradually got more complicated and more interesting... And then came this scene. And that is where shit got real good and qualitative. Man, that is one good game, scenario and character development. And god DAMN does Raynor deserve respect :3
+s3dchr Too bad they spit-shine all of his morally grey moments to make him appear like a hero anyway and so rationalize his flaws away, and make two of the best characters from the original games into mindless tyrants. WoL frankly sucked compared to previous titles and expanded universe stories. I'm glad the games improved on character development in HotS and LotV. I still hated Mengsk in HotS, but Amon is slightly more interesting if you pay attention to his motives. His dumbest appearance, of course, was also in Wings, where he comes off as a simple "For the Evulz" powermonger. He's a nihilist who believes all life is suffering in Legacy, so while he starts sounding like a broken record very quickly, at least his motives make sense. His "Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds" moment in the Epilogue wasn't too bad, either, since it raises a lot of questions about the morality of the Infinite Cycle.
dude, that's just bullshit. They made Raynor just another spaghetti western hero. A retired knight in shiny armor. I mean it's not bad. But sooo cliche. He was a bald cynical cutthroat, who settled for a sheriff job in 1st SC.
@@ConradKurze He wasn't bald, cynical, nor a sheriff in SC1. Original comment had it right, Jim wasn't really as fleshed out as Tassadar or the Overmind in the original game. He didn't really have a character at all beyond being a generic good guy human and he doesn't really seem to be affected by the deaths of people under his command or his morally grey companions whatsoever (it's at least a little understandable with Kerrigan; most people don't realize that the Raynor/Kerrigan romance had actually been an idea since SC1, but it got cut out during development so they only seem like comrades and in Brood War Jimmy ended up looking like he was just stupidly trusting. It was more than a little strange that they retconned said romance into being canon again in SC2, but I digress). Either way, his character is pretty cliche. But at least he's a cliche with depth in SC2. Robert Clotworthy also gets to show his range as a VA compared to when he was just confident leader man 90% of the time in SC1.
@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 He was a marshall at the small Mar Sara colony. Become that as a result of a deal with the Confederacy, to pardon him. Which i see as pretty close to the sheriff, also he was called that several times i think. Ok, maby not cynical, but sarcastic. At the apperance, check again the old Starcraft icon, he was balding, shaved short and with monobrow. Not to meantion completely different face features. It's quite obvious thet they not just changed, but PG13 polished his appearance in the S2, as well as every other design and game aspect. Though i agree with last thesis, that he became just a deeper cliche in the sequel. Which is not a good thing IMO, but easier to sell to kids i guess.
The theme music at the end of this scene is STRAIGHT out of Firefly! From the point where Jim electrocutes Tychus, the music is Greg Edmonson's soundtrack from the Bar Fight in The Train Job.
Gotta love the part he says, "I don't want to have this conversation again....And fix my damn jukebox! *raynor leaves* Uhh...Anybody help me?? Anybody?"
The best story out of all 3 parts of this game was that of a man on a mission, and the tale of the rag tag misfits who joined him to fight the good fight.
Huge firefly fan, just recently played starcraft 2, this whole campain is EXACTLY like Firefly, the soundtrack has many taken from firefly. I mean all I see is Jayne and Mal going at it. Its firefly with a hint of blizzard and instead of a dozen people the missions deal with hundreds, so the storyline is a little closer to war than post-war. Matt is like a combo of zoey and simon. Obviously in the girl is inara, tosh is like the mercenary in the show and the agent in the movie and river combo.
"You can't trust that drunk.." You ain't too sober yourself, Tychus. Still, tensions are rising, so me and Raynor will let slide for now. Must have been humiliating enough to lose a barroom brawl when you're inside a combat suit, no need to heap it on..
That was actually pretty dangerous. If the electricity shorted out Tychus' combat suit systems, which is tied to his internal organs, that would've killed him.
@@ZC.Andrew Every single punch from Tychus could have killed Raynor, as shown in the later cutscene where Warfield kills a hydralisk with a single punch while in his combat suit.
Coming back to this scene in 2024... It's been longer since this game came out than the timespan between when the original StarCraft and this game came out.
See, this is what SC2's story was about. Badassery, when not wrapping up losse ends from the first game. Yes, it was clichée, yes, some things did not make sense, but what it had in scores was badass characters and over the top moments that just made you laugh. That is a different kind if story, but I really enjoyed it nonetheless. Honestly, it's a fucking game, if I want super deepness and darkness cereal brans then I'll go read shakespere.
13 years later and I'm looking at this scene again. 0:27 Tychus might have been drunk, but now that we know what happens at the end, it's clear that he has a bit of clarity in his head, and a really pained expression reflected in that booze, because he knows what'll happen on Char. He wants to beg Jim not to go there. He wants to convince everyone that it's not a good idea, because he doesn't want to be the one to kill Kerrigan and ruin his friendship with Jim. And so, in order to look the least suspicious, he puts on a show and causes chaos, spouting things that would turn people against Raynor. ...Sadly, none of it worked, and he could only brace himself for what happens. Now that the decision's been made after the bar brawl... he has no choice but to go through and follow Raynor to the end.
Jim is like "If you feel that way , HIT ME" And Tychus: You bet your sorry ass I will....Just stand still damn it.... Funny how Jim openly challanges him without a care in the world, just a good show of beating impossible odds:))
I'm surprised Raynor can roll Tychus over with his leg considering the wiki states the CMC Powered Combat Suit weights 1090 kilograms. Raynor must do a lot of lower body strength training.
The music at the end definitely sounds very Firefly-esque. Almost a dead rip off of right after the bar fight scene from "The Train Job." I don't know whether it was a direct rip or homage or inside reference, but it's still very fitting.
