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StarCraft 2 Low APM Challenge 2022! Protoss Rank Up Guide - Low Plat (Ep. 3) 

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@ftlnetwork6067
@ftlnetwork6067 2 года назад
I love when winter actually gets challenged. Makes for a fantastic video.
@SnkobArts
@SnkobArts 2 года назад
Additional tip(s): Just like Ctrl clicking a unit will select all units of that type, Ctrl+Shift Clicking gets RID of all units of that type in your selection. Useful for deselecting spellcasters from your main army, or deselecting Non-Anti-air units when bringing the stalkers/chadrays back home to defend against the moota/BCs. Only-anti-Ground-attack army can keep damaging bases while your AA units come to home to play tag with the other player's base-strafing units. Your opponent's sick micro notwithstanding, imminent surrender (and humiliation) is inevitable. You can then contact your probe lawyers to file restraining orders against this blatant workplace harassment! 😘😤
@FonderTomato13
@FonderTomato13 2 года назад
Again incredible. I went from vibe b2gm, to this. I'm scared of micro'ing but your simple concepts. Make me understand its a muscle to build, just like macro'ing.
@bobjohnson9201
@bobjohnson9201 2 года назад
Thank you Winter. This series broke my apathy and got me playing again. And helped me get back to being a gold league goober once again. Love the series!
@dizastro5437
@dizastro5437 2 года назад
Best of this series. Loving it
@MrTube84
@MrTube84 2 года назад
Hey Winter great content here I appreciate it sir. I was thinking if is possible you add vids with a recap of openers like Vs cannon rush, vs 3 gates, reaps, lings rush from the perspective of each race. Great job man, thanks for the quality here! really helps!
@joesaxon3613
@joesaxon3613 2 года назад
I dunno know why it took me this long to put it together, but you are a dead ringer for Joseph Gordon-Levitt...
@Hotshotben
@Hotshotben 2 года назад
Perfect intro! I won 2 games yesterday but my opponents were braindead. Watch me come back confidently tonight and lose all confidence after a rushed bane drop
@Vardpo
@Vardpo 2 года назад
thank your for translating and answering my question
@ForeverRin
@ForeverRin 2 года назад
You would have my full focus in a 8 hour video
@Discerned_
@Discerned_ 2 года назад
Gotta say your tutorials are good. I made to plat 3 zerg thanks to you, as well as my lack of sanity!
@アンゲルタムアンゲルタム
Hey Winter, great vid but i still seek guidance. I'm mostly comfortable doing 2 base timings but trying to learn that highly panned macro style. The big thing for me is obviously taking that 3rd base and here comes the question. More often than not i see players take the linear third instead of the standard location. Can you elaborate further on why and when to choose which option? Thanks!
@TheAgavi
@TheAgavi 2 года назад
You take the linear third if you want to expand further away from your opponent. Against terran it's a good idea because it prevents them dropping in your third and picking up and dropping in your main by the time you get down there.
@wh1sp3rr
@wh1sp3rr 2 года назад
Day
@monstersaint
@monstersaint 3 месяца назад
Thanks!
@NoticemeSinPi
@NoticemeSinPi 2 года назад
Do zerg buildings keep the kill count from the drone?
@Hotshotben
@Hotshotben 2 года назад
Could we get a visual representation or explanation of how to figure out splash zones. Like how wide is a widow mine explosion, siege tank shot, colossus hitrsnge, etc?
@Johnny-Joseph
@Johnny-Joseph 2 года назад
49:45 is hilarious, man is prepared everywhere xd
@Machida209
@Machida209 2 года назад
I like your videos! On the gameplay, shoudn’t you prioritize maxing supply more? You were like 150 supply with a ton of unspent resources for super long, and that +50 supply would have allowed to defend bases better (not lose 4th) and / or make him def by having a chargelot force harassing his bases
@WolfGangDealers
@WolfGangDealers 2 года назад
I'm sure that the new balance patch shouldn't change too much of the protoss' gameplan. Just how they reach their gameplan.
@jakebrewable
@jakebrewable 2 года назад
What is this gameplan? I thought it was just get whatever and A move
@WolfGangDealers
@WolfGangDealers 2 года назад
@@jakebrewable instead of going air a-move earlier, you make more ground a-move to get to air a-move armies.
@iiddNNzz
@iiddNNzz 2 года назад
Hey winter thanks for the content my dude, I always have fun watching but then I get to play, I can’t macro I just rush stalkers if I need to build a 3rd base my brain hurts and I normally quit the game and go back to stalkers blink
2 года назад
Liking before even watching the video :p
@humanetrout8805
@humanetrout8805 2 года назад
how do disruptors compare to high templar & storm? I feel like those games with high templar storm would benefit from a lot more value that disruptors bring, with it's near instant kill novas as opposed to storms and squishy templar. Thoughts?
@koolkiller35
@koolkiller35 Год назад
If your opponent is paying attention and stimmed, they can outrun the disruptor shots. Storm is instant and very strong against bio. Disrupters are better for mech
@mikovihko4641
@mikovihko4641 2 года назад
I feel kinda proud to not get supply blocked a single time in my games anymore >:) I kinda almost set it in stone when I build pylons and where so I dont have to even think about it anymore, seems to me a good position to be ingame can spend brain resource elsewhere
@alejandrosanchezsalcedo7076
@alejandrosanchezsalcedo7076 2 года назад
Hey winter I've been seeing a lot of succes with mass stalkers with blink and immortals on the front. I fear that i will hit a wall soon since i am at arround 2400 mmr (silver) Do you sugest to change my build or just keep winning with the good old stalkers?
@Matt-vh7gf
@Matt-vh7gf 2 года назад
Hi Shiba :D
@tusk3260
@tusk3260 2 года назад
I got to platinum by only making marines and hellbats. I went maccro, maccron and no micro at all. In late game id have 4 to 5 factory with reactors, 24 barracks with reactors, fully upgraded marines and hell bats. Id have 16 orbital command centers for constant mule drops and at make 48 marines and 8 to 10 hellbats at a time and rally accross the map. 2 units in que constantly for all barracks and factory. So as my attack wave of 48 marines and 8 - 10 helbats cross the map, another full attack wave is being built. - The way players play in starcraft is they counter attack right after they successfully defended but against me in you attack i have a new army already made by the time you cross the map. So i overrun my enemies with my constant attacks or i run out of minerals and lose. But my strategy worked in 9 out of 10 games due to my insane maccro that i learned from playing against elite ai constantly. I went from bronze league that i was stuck in for severals and gave up to play versus ai to platinum league and got back my confidence as i was playing against diamond leagues and winning. Then i played against some master league guys in customs games that i met in an arcade game called StarBattle, they were bragging that never ever win and turns out i beat them overwhelmingly: Altho they were able to defend against my constant attack waves, i was slowly and gradually building a secret battle cruiser fleet in my starting base, just 2 at a time. Eventually i started decreasing the number of marines and hellbats i was producing at once, making my attack waves smaller. The master lvl guys assumed i was running on minerals and started telling me in chat that i never had a chance at winning to begin with. The game was a 8 players ffa and by that time the only ones alive left were me and the 2 masters. I was laughting at them saying i was about to win while didnt believe me and kept battling each other, until i maxed out on battle cruisers and almost fully wiped out one of them. Then the other master player found out the damage i did and was in disbelief, he didnt see my battle cruisers yet and the master i wrekt first chose to remain silent until the second master player (the one that bragged the most) finally saw my battle cruisers and literally rage quited. It was hilarous, i was so happy i suddenly got up irl and as i did i clumsily hit my laptop causing to fall on the ground and breaking..... This was the last Starcraft game i ever played. - All in all, not a bad way to quit starcraft, makes it a great memory and easy to remember. Tho i was devastated when i accidentally broke my computer.
@joshuaxiong8377
@joshuaxiong8377 2 года назад
LOL, i like that. "There are random players, and then there are players who play random." i am most definitely a random player. it's more fun to just mess around with every race.
@ludoviclagouardette7020
@ludoviclagouardette7020 2 года назад
1:54:00 You had such an evil grin when telling people to eat their widow mines... I love it
@peterszupera1003
@peterszupera1003 2 года назад
Hey Winter, thanks for the series, you inspired me to start playing ranked, not just campaign and co-op. I'm in gold, and I have difficulties against skytoss in PvP. I think I max out too late (12-13 mins), because I can't decide in time my opponent plays an early void ray all in or just a macro skytoss. Can you give me some tips how can I recognize the macro version?
@Fred-ju1xs
@Fred-ju1xs 3 месяца назад
I like Zerg. but I cant get things going. Between Injects and Larva management and weak units. I'll just watch.
@jacobw3652
@jacobw3652 2 года назад
Now I don't feel so bad, I'm in low diamond and BigSam absolutely wrecked me. Damn smurfs.
@FoxiestDuck
@FoxiestDuck 2 года назад
Within 40seconds, I was called out. I do 5placements, get stomped then stop playing :D
@Se7eNiToS
@Se7eNiToS 2 года назад
1:04:35 just wait for it, the minerals line. Amazing timing, I laughed so hard!!!
@albertro6051
@albertro6051 2 года назад
ah yes, watching the twitch content again on yt.
@stevehuk902
@stevehuk902 2 года назад
Would proxy shield battery be good for attacking? Or is that tin foil league strategy?
@NEROgamehunter
@NEROgamehunter 2 года назад
i love your videos
@ghoraxe9000
@ghoraxe9000 2 года назад
I've improved alot on my macro but .. not sure if micro will ever be my thing... I love my slow n steady position focused advances... It's just a style for me to build forward fortification... Gives my marines somewhere safe to retreat
@anonymouse3471
@anonymouse3471 2 года назад
bunkers with the push is definitely a thing even pros do it
@lixnix2018
@lixnix2018 2 года назад
I should stop trying to play zerg as Protoss I should just go back to zerg
@jerubaal101
@jerubaal101 2 года назад
Great guide, but you don't seem to be using Oracles as much as many pros do. Are they just scouts at this point?
@larsbaer3508
@larsbaer3508 2 года назад
I Just reinstalled sc2 BC of your Low am Challenge lol, i followed you when you did IT the First time ... Just gonna do a couple of ai Games though i guess Just for nostalgic ... Never Made IT above gold BC i never Put in the time and effort
@theefranchise1299
@theefranchise1299 Год назад
great vid, BIGSAM is a RL friend, lived 4 houses down from me.. hes always been really good at SC even before broodwar and somehow i became addicted to it as well, but over the years he has learned more and perfected his strats, hes not a pro by any means but i think if matched up to some of these pros, he wouldnt be a push over by a long shot
@OzixiThrill
@OzixiThrill 2 года назад
1:55:48 - Interesting how he calls marines the best (Queens are the best Tier 1 unit, by the way, and I'll die on this hill), when marines without stim and combat shields are barely worth anthing; Even less than zealots.
@junkerjorg2
@junkerjorg2 2 года назад
WE'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT, THANKS WINTER
@tusk3260
@tusk3260 2 года назад
When going colossi i used to build a bunch of immortals first and supliment them with stalkers. Only need about 3 colossi with range upgrade thats a must have. Then have a huge number of stalkers and immortals. They wont go ultra because immortals hard counters them and immortals will kill buildings fast snd stays alive a long time. To counter you they will go corrupters but they will need a lot to get past your stalkers and that range upgrade makes it way harder for him to sniper your colossi, so he will make like 8 or more corrupters to snipe colissi. Thats a lot of army pop that cant do anything after that, so this is when you attack his base. This is when having all those immortals pays off. You go snipe his hive and important buildings then its clean up time and you win. Make sure not to kill corrupters and do the attack before he gets broodlords so spire and pool are first target then its hive and everything else. Have a few warp prism follow colossi for decoy against corruptets and to reinforce army with stalkers warp in. The stalkers alone when in critical mass can defeat lings but really they are there as meatshield for the immortals and colossi. It wasby using this composition of units that i first started to win against elite ai.
@luisagra1829
@luisagra1829 5 месяцев назад
omg i love u so much man, that intro was so good for me :,)
@MoonShroomMan
@MoonShroomMan 2 года назад
Terran has the best spell caster, and zerg has the second best. I don't want to hear Terrans cry about storm when emp, snipe, cloak, and a fucking nuke are all on 1 unit
@bobjohnson9201
@bobjohnson9201 2 года назад
Winter is truly the most humble person I’ve ever seen.
@martykowal
@martykowal 8 месяцев назад
thanks for educating us plabs ! its earned me some wins ! youre the best!
@martykowal
@martykowal 8 месяцев назад
you speak it in a way thats easy to make happen! love your stuff!
@KirbzYyY
@KirbzYyY 3 месяца назад
Not even a minute in and I am being called out wtf man :(
@hypers829
@hypers829 2 года назад
The op unit can't carry people to a division they don't deserve anymore. It's useless 😭
@themanwhospeaksinclams
@themanwhospeaksinclams 2 года назад
How about instead of taking bases you get based?
@deeznoodlezz
@deeznoodlezz 2 года назад
I think onions grow their layers by consuming their onion brethren and absorbing their energy and each layer is how many onions they absorbed
@Tenebris_Sint
@Tenebris_Sint 2 года назад
We need the same, but Florencio builds.
@cccorange5965
@cccorange5965 2 года назад
Are disrupters just better templars? Those danger balls are so sick
@Talyrion
@Talyrion 2 года назад
I think the problem is that when you're up against someone who have a good micro, those balls suddenly have a really hard time connecting.
@bobjohnson9201
@bobjohnson9201 2 года назад
I got a zeeeeeeeerrrrrg and a shotguuunnn!!!!
@SttarDustt606
@SttarDustt606 2 года назад
Like many others I want to go pro at sc2 but im so damn lazy after work lol and its scary not the players but the micro 😆 Also I want another heart from the late great WinterSC. Thank you.
@Falindio
@Falindio 2 года назад
The first game bound to happen every now and then. Cheeses, smurfs, and in winter's case, snipers. Focus on your game and it'll be more enjoyable, even on a loss.
@Fede.i.M.
@Fede.i.M. 2 года назад
i just realized something, i am in this APM range already making bad decision in D2, is it because i dont spam keys ever? And never bothered with repeat rates of keys for rapid fire
@jonnyc4744
@jonnyc4744 2 года назад
Why laugh at chat when 4/3 gas? me nobo tbh
@ja-no6fx
@ja-no6fx 2 года назад
for all ling fight u could put a cannon or two in between some buildings where the lings cant get in, itll bug out the ai
@Hotshotben
@Hotshotben 2 года назад
I would like to know how to lightly micro my units after a-moving. I often feel like half my archons and immortals are too thick and theyre stuck at the back of the line trying to find a way to get in range of the other army while my zealots are doing all they can in front. Thanks for the grest content!
@nickjensen1004
@nickjensen1004 2 года назад
Excellent series, glad you are doing it for each race. I have 2 questions: 1. Under what conditions and at what time should I build a second forge? 2. Same question for a second robo?
@yifeicheng8926
@yifeicheng8926 2 года назад
Very educational content! Just one question: what is an efficient way to deal with engineering bay block as protoss? I would build a zealot to cancel the engineering bay after scouting it, but this delays my adept, making it hard to deal with the reaper.
@8ritorneloz
@8ritorneloz 2 года назад
I realized that max pax is for map hax
@ceerius3910
@ceerius3910 2 года назад
We all love low apm It gives us bads a little copium That we too can be good at starcraft But probably just look like an ass Shout out to the mod BionicShiba Talk too much trash and he'll eat you like an amoeba Maybe one day he'll promote me in discord To sub rank for the streamer where my love is poured
@ceerius3910
@ceerius3910 2 года назад
Also for an actual question, can a reaper grenade your disrupter danger balls back at you?
@FearlessDad
@FearlessDad 2 года назад
I would love to see some more disruptor play. Makes the game even more fun to watch when you go bowling for zerg
@jayisvexed
@jayisvexed 2 года назад
my pylon is turgid
@simonkeen9776
@simonkeen9776 Год назад
Disruptor goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@firestarter000001
@firestarter000001 2 года назад
I actually also played against this BigSam smurf (Im diamond 3). He made the same thing to me, lings everywhere, wiht one variation, he used nydus to swarm my main.I think i died much faster then Winter, even when obviously Winter was purposefully playing slow and basic here:)
@samuelricchio9427
@samuelricchio9427 2 года назад
nice
@samuelricchio9427
@samuelricchio9427 2 года назад
I'll get you again too.
@Valhalla05
@Valhalla05 2 года назад
Protoss Terran or zerg?
@firestarter000001
@firestarter000001 2 года назад
@@Valhalla05 Im Protoss
@firestarter000001
@firestarter000001 2 года назад
@@samuelricchio9427 We shall see, this bullshit worked because i was surprised...
@michaelkramerados3751
@michaelkramerados3751 Год назад
Hi Shiba :)
@danielbrooks8230
@danielbrooks8230 2 года назад
Hi Shiba
@dummymac3944
@dummymac3944 9 месяцев назад
I love the tips you give, been playing 12-15 ranked games a day
@high_dadYT
@high_dadYT 2 года назад
Your intro sounds exactly like how I describe Tarkov to people lmao
@frankmc8355
@frankmc8355 2 года назад
For shield upgrades, doe the calculus on upgrade priority change if you're playing defensively? Shouldn't batteries make shield upgrades better?
@WannabeDough
@WannabeDough 10 месяцев назад
No because the shield battery already won’t be able to keep up making armour upgrades way better to minimise hull damage, no point having a bigger shield If the battery can’t keep up already
@monkeybunny89
@monkeybunny89 2 года назад
Low APM challenge? That's what PRotoss does every race?
@edwinCSBG
@edwinCSBG 7 месяцев назад
bro is really cool to watch
@Daedalus33
@Daedalus33 2 года назад
Damn man that intro. Were you in my bedroom last night or what
@WannabeDough
@WannabeDough 10 месяцев назад
Hi Shiba
@JAKL6775
@JAKL6775 2 года назад
Man that opening reminded me of my league of legends years xD
@ghoraxe9000
@ghoraxe9000 2 года назад
Useless no.. still excellent for sniping key building in the late game
@GeneralWarfield
@GeneralWarfield 2 года назад
Would you say ladder got easier or harder since 2018-2020?
@polygondwanaland8390
@polygondwanaland8390 2 года назад
2:11:25
@nielsfennema2266
@nielsfennema2266 2 года назад
Question: I struggle a lot versus a 6 min roach revenge attack ~130 supply, a friend of mine always does it. I feel like I can not counter it without blind countering and building a bunch of cannons and batteries. He builds a 3th so it is also not mediately obvious what his intentions are.
@Valhalla05
@Valhalla05 2 года назад
To clarify, does your friend attack with 130 supply of roaches, or do they attack with roaches when YOU are at 130 supply?
@nielsfennema2266
@nielsfennema2266 2 года назад
@@Valhalla05 This was just how I noted it down in my note pad. But I belive that his total supply was 130 at 6min when he is knocking with biles on my front door. So let's say 90ish supply of roaches? I can check this in a replay later is 90 sounds low.
@marktrujillo344
@marktrujillo344 Год назад
Protect Winter at all costs. This man is genuine treasure..
@tiaanmunnik
@tiaanmunnik 2 года назад
The glorious zergling slaughter, awesome.
@ALGband
@ALGband 2 года назад
I am that dude on the ladder
@MrRubixscube
@MrRubixscube 2 года назад
hi winter, this time i have a couple questions: 1) is there a way to select all idle workers without having the camera move over to them? 2) how important is it to hit chronoboost? should you keep it in the back of your mind at all time, or just use it whenever you notice the relevant buildings on screen?
@SnkobArts
@SnkobArts 2 года назад
Ctrl F1 (or whatever you have it bound to) selects all idle workers. You can also just mouse click the idle worker button in the lower left of the screen on the minimal frame
@SnkobArts
@SnkobArts 2 года назад
Chrono boost workers up through 3 bases, then Chrono upgrades. If while scouting you see them moving out, Chrono production like robo and stargates. If it's 1 base vs your 2 base, be sure to save 50 energy on one of your nex for battery overcharge
@MrRubixscube
@MrRubixscube 2 года назад
@@SnkobArts thanks for the answers. however, my first question wasnt about "how to select all idle workers" but "how to select them without the screen moving to them". i dont even know if theres a way
@Valhalla05
@Valhalla05 2 года назад
@@MrRubixscube Ctrl Idle Worker key will select all idle workers without moving the camera towards them. Just make sure you only hit the idle worker key once
@christophercoates3431
@christophercoates3431 Год назад
Love the content. Keep it up!
@Jones-ke6bt
@Jones-ke6bt 2 года назад
pretty sure an a move would have won the first game about half way in lol
@Falindio
@Falindio 2 года назад
And then get out base-traded by drop lings
@Jones-ke6bt
@Jones-ke6bt 2 года назад
@@Falindio idk about that. its not hard to defend that with a warp in.
@MrCreed145
@MrCreed145 2 года назад
That intro made me cry inside. Side note, MAKE HYDRAS TIER ONE, can build den after pool, upgrades unlocked at lair tech. Also a 2 out of three random mode would be nice. Ide love random zerg or terran and not ever get toss.
@birtanikk2696
@birtanikk2696 2 года назад
Protoss ❤️
@alexfindex
@alexfindex 2 года назад
I just wanna say hi to Shiba
@SkinutrixX
@SkinutrixX 2 года назад
Hi Shiba
@alejandrosanchezsalcedo7076
@alejandrosanchezsalcedo7076 2 года назад
Yeah! Let's go protoss!!
@danielbrannon8371
@danielbrannon8371 2 года назад
Q: Are Void Rays USELESS After the new patch? A: No they have been useless since WOL.
@screes620
@screes620 2 года назад
Shoulda built colossus for that first game. 3 of them, and then push across the map, leave like 3 high templar in each base to defend.
@CPeyser08
@CPeyser08 2 года назад
Now void rays have been nerfed it’s time to go back to cannon rushing everyone! 😛
@Phileosophos
@Phileosophos 2 года назад
That first game highlights why I despise Zerg. If Winter hadn't walled off perfectly as Protoss, he'd have lost at the first attack. He had to build the perfect unit composition and use spell casters just to survive. All the Zerg player had to do was build the most basic unit in the game and keep attack clicking to win. It's pathetic how OP Zerg are, Blizzard's "master race" in StarCraft 2.
@TheAgavi
@TheAgavi 2 года назад
You seriously complaining that all you need to do is place buildings properly once at the start of the game in order to repel all zerg aggression?
@Falindio
@Falindio 2 года назад
He had 202 APM in the end, the guy's a Smurf and most likely, stream sniper. If allowed more APM, thus more scouting, Winter would've slapped him.
@Phileosophos
@Phileosophos 2 года назад
@@TheAgavi No, as you'd know if you actually read what I wrote.
@jimmycraig221
@jimmycraig221 2 года назад
im telling you, just recommend people tank their mmr. then you can play against people of lower skill, and try out crazy builds. i wouldnt recommend cheeses, but it helps with scouting patterns, creep spread, creating workers, etc..
@firestarter000001
@firestarter000001 2 года назад
So basicly you recommend to smurf. I dont believe you when you say it helps with learning, it doesnt, because you are trying it against a much inferior player, so it teaches you nothing. Against a player at your level it might not work at all. There is only one reason for smurfing by tanking mmr : cowardice. These guys are afraid to loose, their fragile ego must alwys win. They are basicly bullies that enjoy beating on much weaker players. And as collaterall they are driving poeple away from SC2, because it is quite frustrating. In short they are morons , who hurt the not so huge SC2 playerbase.
@Valhalla05
@Valhalla05 2 года назад
You do realize that unranked games exist right?
@firestarter000001
@firestarter000001 2 года назад
@@Valhalla05 Im confused what does it have to do with the subject?
@Valhalla05
@Valhalla05 2 года назад
@@firestarter000001 Because OP is recommending to tank your MMR to try new things. But Unranked exists to try new things without risking your rank.
@thou_shalt_kill1355
@thou_shalt_kill1355 2 года назад
They always nerf protoss very fast. But they cannot fix broken zerg for 5 years now
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