StarCraft 2 Low APM Challenge 2022! Zerg Rank Up Guide - Silver (Ep. 2) 

As a starting older (34) player, first time playing SC2 (my only experience is sc1, zerg). This is very nicely done. Your attitude, form of explanation, humor and chill atmosphere is very nice. I am lost with all these ideas and strategies in my head, going through phases (lets do all ins, lets do mutas, lets do roaches, lets flood ling, lets try spell-casters), so this is nice to take it slow and steady with basics. Thanks

"Somebody call a chiropractor, I have a spine problem." 😂

Finally the next part for Zerg! Thank you again for this series, it has been such a pleasure to watch and learn from

LMAO the realization that the "static" defense is actually faster than queens made my day!

@WinterStarcraft - The very best part of this from a learning POV is when you actually say what you're doing. Like "Send ove 1 to their base, 17 hatch, build drone, 17 pool, build drones, 2 minutes get gas...". While I know it feels like repeating yourself, repetition is SUPER critical to retaining information in learning. Also, for those of us that kinda suck, we cannot really SEE what you're doing/building much of the time. With low APM, you have plenty of time to talk through what's going on.

Now instead of a Bronze League Hero masquerading as a Platinum and making as many zerglings as my little fingers can press the button, I'm actually learning how to play thoughtfully instead of just beating my head against the wall. You're awesome Winter!

Im so glad I happened to notice the shirt he's wearing, excellent taste, Winter.

Thank you very much for this Videos.... i was away from SC2 for about 5 years, and your vid´s are helping me a lot to get into this great game again ^^ You do a great job, man!!!!! :-)

Back in the day when I still played starcraft, I got to low diamond with all three races using winter's guides. It is certainly true that "Quantity has a quality all its own."

Great series as always. While I don't think it matters to the overall story of the series (more beats less), then I think it's important to note that while it's on average low APM games, then there are spikes that a newbie like myself probably wouldn't be able to deal with right off the bat. Take the zergling attack at 51:00 as an example or the mootahs at 55:55. Something like that would put my skill to the test and I'm not sure I'd be able to spike 200-300 APM to pull through. I'd expect to loose more games, but still be able to climb reliably with the approach presented. I know the APM counter can be deceiving, but my overall point is just that there are a few critical situations where a higher APM is needed to succeed and not loose the game. I like the series because it showcases what to focus on as a new player. The low average APM approach helps a ton with that.

Winter is a good sport for letting that guy pause that was really good of him it's nice to see wholesome players in online gaming

I have 3 questions: 1) At what level does roach hydra just no longer cut it? 2) If you plan not to make zerglings, is it worth it to get ling speed quickly? or at all? Or is the risk of not having ling speed when you need it for an early pressure too great? 3) What kind of things should higher level players take from these lower level guides, and what things should be ignored and or modified before taken to the ladder?

thanks for the video, had a great time. starting sc2 for the 5th time ;)

23:17 omg that wall is pre-meditated , it's beautiful

Haven't played since hots and I only ever played like 20 games back then. I recently started playing ladder after playing through the campaign for the first time. It's pretty overwhelming but a ton of fun. Number 1 thing I learned was queens are good and I should be making more of them. That and spore 20.

Every zerg tutorial is like: "This unit and this unit are awful...and this one...basically you have 3 units that are worth making. Good luck and have fun!"

@54:20 "oh my GOD sweet baby Jesus... somebody call a chiropractor. I have a spine problem" lmao

Hey winter. Loving the series and you really got me back into sc2. Thought I kicked that addiction but what else am I going to do. How does one "steal" corruptors from a control group with alt click. I just badly remove and readd units into control groups. That would be good to know. Keep it up, great educational content.

Greatest SC2 series on RU-vid ever. The Protoss one I mean.

Never have the time to watch twitch live, this RU-vid upload is really appreciated 👍

I wrote all over my desk while listening to this and not watching. I made it to silver 1. Thanks hydroxicut!

You look good Winter! I hope all is well with you. Keep it up ❤️

Viper lurker art of war stuff this rely helping me with my ladder games awesome guide so far

@thirty:nineteen ty so much winter!!! you ARE our voice!!! :D glhf 4 hours is a long time? I'm ashamed to say how many times I've watched these videos 😂 asalwaystyforyourhardworkanddedication!!!

Nice video !

oops, I liked before watching again. thank you winter, love you bro

54:23 Oh sweet baby jesus had me rolling

"so the counter to two bunkers is just to ignore him" I haven't laughed so hard in awhile. thank you.

Honestly, after that intro. I'll probably never skip one again. 😂

Hey Winter, I love the series but, I think you should put some kind of APM lock so that the game wont let you peak above 120 at this tier or something. There are plenty of times you hit 300apm for various reasons that kinda let you bully them. This is something bronze , silver, gold players cant do; but you use it alot. Its still really good. And anyone new here who plays should absolutely use this.

Thank you Winter!

love your "in a nutshell" shirt

How do you scout enemies during the mid-late game stages of the match? Every time I play(once a year) it seems like there is a blink stalker or a missile turret, no matter where I send my overseers from. But when I do get in I'm not sure what to do when I scout the tech, except to build more queens Also, wow that was a lot of zergs, I hope you go over more terran/protoss counters in the next episode.

videos like these are helpful to watch, I've been wanting to offrace zerg for a while now

queens are THE unit for zerg. Heals, injects, spreads creep, shoots up and down, and decently tanky. Just. Make. Queens.

Dan says "sorry cat on wires" as I chuckle and realize there is a cat sitting on me making using the keyboard a rather tedious task.

Hey Winter I just want to say I'm sorry that those bastards tried to frame and attack you like that. So fucking petty. You are a fantastic gamer and I would not be improving like I am without this stream, thank you so much from the bottom of The Heart of The Swarm, I wouldn't still be playing without this stream.

this is a fantastic series. just in time to abate my katowice withdrawls.

@2:05:05 I Absolutly love that pic, huskies are the best!!! @1:19:11 HACK THA PLANETTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!! (sry, I meant game...) @1:09:42 wow... :( lol @30:02 lol, @30:19 that gets me every time... xD also, i left the last comment on this video... :( idk how i should feel about that. as always ty for your hard work and dedication!!! glhf fam p.s. the look on your face @1:04:20 was priceless!!!! tytyty :D

I feel like winter can be the G.O.A.T of star craft if he wanted to.

DanTheMan sounds familiar. Was he In a bronze league heroes? Anyway, I like the se videos winter, actually teaches and entertains.

Don't get me wrong, the low APM series from 2020 really helped me a lot. Here goes the big BUT: :D But I barely win with my APM 85 - 105 (if crazy) in DIa3 (~3,2k MMR). Easy for me to outplay opponent in mirror matchup, but zvt and zvp is a nightmare. The answer is: you can get much from the game using mostly good tactics, good positioning and taking care of you macro, but Winter goes 80-95 APM vs. silver-gold players :D Conclusion: APM is as important as macro, tactics etc. It's a bit of a lie that is not as important. Because APM is not clicking 15 times with 1 zergling, or sick muta-bane movements and splits. It's actually taking care of your macro AND not falling with your army under the tanks. You need your micro to do macro, if you don't have micro, high APM, you lose macro, or army, or scouting info, and so on.

Started playing ranked today using this strat. Reached gold with 11 w 4 l.

People don't watch for this many hours? I watch every minute of all your content lol

Winter, regarding the Fighting Queens, I have one word. Stonewall.

Zerg is my favorite to watch

I’d love to actually play SC2, but no PC :( I’m glad I can still watch and learn though

I’m a campaign only player, I find it hard to multitask! My APM is about 19, started playing original StarCraft like 20 years ago and to this day I enjoy Warcraft 3 and sc2 as well as being a mediocre league of legends player.

30:40 ouch I feel called out

Winter are you a hollow, I can see through you lol all jokes aside this series has helped me a lot, and indeed removing the zergling speed and early gas is a major help to improve economy and get them early 5-6 roaches to dev agro players

If i ever felt half as much joy as Winter did killing that BC on 1:48:00 life would not be half as bad.

Hey Winter - would it break the balance of Zerg, if the Queen would be able to have inject larva on auto-cast?

My OCD demands to know - Are the minerals from a worker that goes over to gas from minerals and vice versa lost? Do they get deposited when they pick up the new resource? Are they returned along with the new resource?

Would love to see mr. Bootychowder make it to IEM next year. Would be interesting to see casters repeating that name over and over....

"What's spore20?" "About 20 seconds past the spore minute mark."

I wonder if winter has ever played hearts of iron 4. I just started playing it and it’s a cult

Do you have video with control ?

LOL at 1:17:05 winter maxes out at 10 minutes and 30 seconds and says if he has too much we will make lurkers. What rank even maxes out in under 11? At least low diamond or high plat right? Was playing in silver 2. Love the sign off though, teach a man a build etc.

What are the voicelines? The prev streams ones were much better imo

Dammit Bobby!

also by not doing anything for seconds at time he can still micro and macro at a high level just in bursts

did they delete the archon mode?

go winter go!

BREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENDA!!!

why you stopped walling off in Silver against zergs?

2:19 build order

wait so i didnt get masters the other season... i thought my leap from plat to master skipping diamond was normal

u make me jump from bronze to master under a month

“Don’t try this at home. I’m building 2 ravagers.”

Those comments cut me deep as one of the 75% watching this who hasn't played a ladder match for 5 years 😂

Folks I'm just a dumb newb but I am 41 years old, gaming since 8... there's no reason you can't have the best of both worlds on injects. All hatches on group 0 or whatever. All house queens on group 9. Bind your base cycle key. You don't need a camera for every base and you can have a queen at every base. If the situation permits you to shift spam through all the injects, fine. If the situation doesn't, find use the base cycle and select the queens individually as you would a cam. If your house queens get mess up, select them all... cycle base, inject, shift click a queen it out of your selection, cycle base inject, cycle base inject, until your last queen finds her home. Your queens will be running all over but if you have creep between your bases the shuffle will be fine and you will reset your spam mode. I could be wrong but it doesn't seem worth it to try to look and find a queen as long as you have a special house queen group. Just get your injects done, then reset them, or reset them if you have time before you need 19 damn larva at every hatch. I don't see any RTS players do this but here's how I play RTS knowing I will never be a pro and wondering why pros dont use this hardware. I use a Razer Naga. I have 10 control groups under my thumb. My hatches really are on 0. My house queens really are on 9, and my fighting queens really are on 8. That leaves 7 control groups. You'll use 2-4 groups for actual combat, and all those other numbers can be scout groups, flank groups, specialties... whatever. The 12 thumb buttons on the "MMO" mice are god tier shit once you are used to them. I met my wife when she was in her late 20s and she wanted to game with me. I said you have to use a mouse with 12 thumb buttons or you can't game with me. She learned it. She is a casual. If she can use it, you can too. Here's how. Step one: Pick a number of buttons near the front that you are comfortable with added to your mental work load. Once you don't have to spend an ounce of thought on it, add more buttons. Repeat until you are the thumb master with 12 extra hot keys on any game. Rome wasn't conquered in a day. If you can use a 4 side button mouse you can use a 12 side button mouse.

Winter simping queens again

idk. everything is a cheese when i play. same old trash. 12pool, cannonrush, 12pool cannon rush. endlessly. literally 90% of the games i get at 2.2k mmr. i either play against potatoes using their toes to key press or cheese.

Love you winter

this is not the probe or pylon your looking for *ignores probe/pylon*.... minuts later, drones lost, base lost :'( derp

Ironically, Brenda means Sword in English.

Zerg aren't the only race with flying biological units. Night elves do as well.

1:26:00 this makes me think people are just freaken dumb. I haven’t played StarCraft in long time but I can micro a few different units. But I guess because I just have experience with RTS games in general. And probably because I’m in my 30s and not some 14 year old lol idk

Building queens is like hacking but for good players

Hey look, no clickbait thumbnail and I'm willing to watch the video lol

The new patch nerfed queens now.

While I definitely enjoy this content, I gotta say, these low apm challenges sound nice to new players at first, but I find that obviously if you memorized all sorts of build orders, matchups, counters and movement, I feel like its obvious that a really good player can cut 90% of his apm and still handily win. I would like to suggest trying to mimic other things that happen to new players, for example not having a build order/failing at doing a build order, or playing entirely reactively as in no scouting(I for one hate scouting my opponent because I lose units) or maybe if you are brave, be bad at multitasking; you can't switch rapidly between macro and micro, if you micro you can only do micro for at least 5 seconds, No camera hotkeys because base game doesn't teach you that, and maybe do random pauses because your bronze brain needs to process what you need to do next. Maybe that's just how I experienced my small amount of time on ladder, and other people found it to be very different, but I would still really like to see some challenge where you basically ignore a key part of the game, so that lower leveled players know what is most important and what is less important. that being said, the overlord scout thing along with spore/spive 20 will probably help me out a lot, as well as figuring out that you use camera hotkeys along with 2 queens per hatch in order to inject properly. I just put ALL of my queens on the same hotkey and tried desperately to micro them into the right places and inject somewhat frequently EDIT: After making several people angry with this comment, I have come to the realization that perhaps I shouldn't be watching winter, because perhaps I simply don't enjoy playing starcraft 2 versus because of the way it is. So nothing would truly make me WANT to play Starcraft 2 versus, and seeing as how that seems to be the point of winter's channel, I should simply take my leave instead of asking for something more relatable.

once he built vipers its like this isnt silver lol

Experience > all - every game - it hate it :D play much, be the best - play very "casual" - get angry.

Hey Winter I like when you did this forward flip ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ar2ShLshujA.html Those were times right? :-)

1:41:40 "Nobody pays attention for 4 hours straight." He says, to the people who just finished watching 4 and a half hours of low APM zerg videos. 🤣

Aww, sucks that all the matches are ZvZ.

I dunno if building queens is cheating, I can't even play zerg. But from watching matches with professional players in the early game it seems like terran and protoss players try to attack or harass zerg players and are consistently beaten back by queens. For the time in the early game that you can have nearly a dozen meaty queens that can attack air and ground defending your base it seems like an insurmountable wall.

people struggle with zerg because their units are expensive one dimensional trash that cant 1v1 anything on the other races.

I enjoy the Low-APM challenge series', and I respect the gift-subs for going over, BUT... ... it feels like it's just proving that you CAN'T win with lower APM's. Winter is a master-level player and even he is consistently having to go over the low-APM limits to win matches. Penalizing himself by gifting subs is honorable, but it defeats the entire point of the series when he has to play with higher APM than targetted more often than not to win. If anything, it's just demonstrating that winning with low-APM is not feasible, because even Winter can't do it. :/

how is this just not smurfing he never loses thats not what the ladder experience is for anyone

if someone played good winter would just play better this whole "guide" is just stealing mmr from new players

this whole series is a scam like any silver would save that ovi