Starfleet Academy 14: Kobayashi Maru

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This mission needs little explanation save that this is the only way to "win". The game can still continue if the player chooses to play the mission normally. I don't know if cheating one of the other ways results in a lower score or a reprimand.

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@Maniac536 4 года назад

This Kobayashi Maru scene is done with a billion times more respect than its depiction in the 2009 movie

@manictiger 10 лет назад

You know you're a nerd when your savegames say things like, 5a and 3c.

@daric_ 5 лет назад

Did that with my SFA games, too. And any RTS, like Command and Conquer, saving at multiple points in the level. It is highly logical. 😉

@Qwazin 12 лет назад

Every PC game should've had William Shatner show up and explain how much better than you he is at beating them.

@perrosaurio725 9 месяцев назад

Awesome comment.

@joemasters2270 10 лет назад

This lucky bastard playing the cadet got to act side by side with the greats. :)

@joemasters2270 9 лет назад

***** Thanks for killing the illusion, Captain Obvious aboard the USS No Shit Sherlock 1701...

@ThaDoctor72 9 лет назад

Joe Masters Ensign Obvious never made it to captain. He was a red shirt. And you can't have two ships with the same registration number. You don't get out much do you?

@ralphyetmore 8 лет назад

+ThaDoctor72 "And you can't have two ships with the same registration number. You don't get out much do you?" I think not knowing minutia like numbering protocols, probably means he gets out a hell of a lot more than you... Just saying...

@joemasters2270 8 лет назад

@ThaDoctor72 - I'm speaking of Walter Koenig, George Takei and William Shatner, dumbass.

@MasterUxi 3 года назад

Thought it was Christian Bale for awhile ha.

@b.bognar700 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing. I see this video, at the night, by babysitting my younger son (he is 3months old) and now and here i feel how much older i am, and those years are a nice memories. Thanks for giving me this feeling my friend!

@VulpisFoxfire 12 лет назад

There's an old Trek novel by the title Kobyashi Maru that explores that a bit, actually--when Sulu takes the test, he concludes that the message is actually a fake in the first place, and doesn't take the ship across the line. Though in Kirk's story, along with the movie itself, part of the reason Kirk figures it's okay to cheat is because the computer cheats first, making it impossible to win--unless you think way outside the box.

@Hartzilla2007 12 лет назад

A nut job Romulan from the future attacked Vulcan and thus interrupted the proceedings before new timeline Kirk could make the epic speech he usually makes that would lead to said praising of his ingenuity.

@mattwho81 5 лет назад

This is actually a better story than what we saw in the reboot movie.

@hafeya 9 лет назад

OMG....I used to play this back in 98!!!! Loved this game!!!

@Tropicalwebsurfer 10 лет назад

I remember this game and this Mission. I took it without cheating just a few tweaks to the ships main power settings and repair resources altered. I successfully destroyed all 3 enemy ships and then 3 more came. I destroyed those and another 3 came then the game crashed. After diverting ever spare bit of power and resources while dodging pop shots I managed to hold my own in that dog fight. I even managed once to keep warp drive online even though it was seriously damaged taking a few minutes before I could even think about going to warp. I know there are people who will say im bluffing but no try it. Decrease warp power and first increase weapons power to photons then phases when photons are gone. Lock weapons on target, I chose the warp drive. For damage max out everything important like hull shields and impulse then touch a bit on everything else making sure weapons get just a bit more since you can always run and repair at the same time. Then be sure emergency power goes up asap. Just dodge a few direct hits and plaster the enemy as hard as you can in the same spot one at a time then you will see what happened to me. Unlike Kirk, I didn't cheat.

@LittleMacscorner 3 года назад

Did you win the scenario? Anything different happen? I had a similar Moment in Wing Commander III. I was losing on purpose to see story and on the final mission where Kilrathi keep coming out of the wormhole. It's supposed to just keep getting harder until you die........but I was so good at piloting at the point just from playing way too much and I was able to just going until eventually the dreadnought actually shows up (Like the massive one you see in cut-scenes only--the biggest shiP). At that point I figured i was screwed, but I just kept shooting and scooting until the fighters were dead and I lined up right behind some part of it where its guns would hit and shot at it for like and hour! It eventually blew! It was one of the most epic video game fights I have ever. Sadly, afterwards, it won't let autopilot back to base and if you try to go back manually your ship just blows up and you get normal game over. Kinda sucked cause I remember really hoping to see a cutscene where its like, you LITERALLY single handily save Earth from an Armada. Thats like some prophet in wormhole kinds stuff~!! But yeah, I do believe .....I think most real gamers have just one story like this from some game at some point in their childhood!

@OpenGL4ever 3 месяца назад

Maybe it crashed because the developers didn't take into account that you can win the mission without cheating? Maybe a video was supposed to be played but then didn't exist because it was forgotten. Accessing data that isn't there could cause a program freeze or crash.

@greene1100 9 лет назад

This why ST is better than SW in realistic gaming.ST gives you the in person style.Hands on approach.

@albertdentfan 13 лет назад

I still prefer the "full speed ahead and tractor Kobayashi then get blown to smithereens" ending but this one is funny as hell ^_^

@FNGLHR 11 лет назад

There is of course the fourth option that doesn't even require cheating. Blow up the Kobayashi Maru and run like hell.That's what MacKenzie Calhoun does citing that rescue is impossible and mercy killing the civilians is the only course of action. He also suggests that its a bit convienent that the ship just happens to be in the neutral zone and that there are cloaked ships around it. So he thinks it is in cahoots with the enemy and thus a legitimate target.

@OpenMawProductions 12 лет назад

This is one of the things that JJ's Trek really dropped the ball on. The simulation is not about "facing fear" as they tried to say. It's about character. It tells SF just what kind of commander you're going to be. Will you cross the border, face certain death, in the attempt to save innocent lives? Will you uphold treaties signed with neighboring alien worlds above all else? As Kirk said "There is no correct solution, it's a test of character."

@porkwilliam 12 лет назад

I bought this game when it first came out; guess it was around 1998? I've been trying to play it on Windows 7 64 bit, but it crashes quite a bit!

@zdrux 11 лет назад

"I teenk I better let the Keptin explain that."

@danish211 10 лет назад

i liked Mackenzie Calhoun's solution the most.

@saquist 10 лет назад

Definitely one of the best solutions.

@danielhaire6677 7 лет назад

I always liked Scotty's teleporting of ordinance as well as the cadet from the novel "Dreadnaught" who used her communicator to act as a control patch when the computer interfaces were damaged.

@OpenMawProductions 12 лет назад

It used to be an issue all the time until writers got lazy. In TOS there were many instances where Kirk wouldn't hear from the "nearest" starbase for days, or even weeks. Even with subspace radio. He was truly on the frontier. It made for more compelling drama when that was the case. Kirk and Co really had to work on their own to solve a problem.

@heavyarms01h 11 лет назад

The "third option" makes me feel like whoever made this game must have read "The Kobayashi Maru" by Julia Ecklar. That's what Kirk did in the novel... =)

@mustang6172 12 лет назад

You don't need matter to run the replicators, you just need energy. This being a society where both nuclear fusion and matter/anti-matter reactors are mastered technology, energy appears plentiful.

@DumbGuysTalkAboutSmartStuff 9 лет назад

I loved this game when I was about 16

@sgtjohnson 2 года назад

Holy crap! They actually got Walter Koenig and Shatner to reprise their role

@RoGuE123087 11 лет назад

lmao, when the Klingon says prepare to be destroyed while muscle flexing, I lost it.

@babylon218 12 лет назад

If the cause is just, and righteous, they (Starfleet) will gladly give their lives. - Jean Luc Picard.

@Forklift_Fella 4 года назад

I didnt even know this was a thing. Now I want to play it! I have my own solution for "The No Win Simulation" and it doesnt look like I could execute it in this game but it still looks like a fantastic experience.

@Calriec 11 лет назад

Well, in defense of Abram's Star Trek, it IS an alternate timeline, so some things are bound to be different. In the original timeline, Spock never took the Kobayashi Maru test, whereas in the altered timeline he WROTE the damn thing. The original version was a test of a ship captain's character, whereas Spock's version was to test how one would respond to mortal fear.

@robertpatrick9128 12 лет назад

before? even TOS had food replicators.

@heavyarms01h 11 лет назад

Was that in the game? I think that solution comes from one of the novels. That's what Peter Kirk did, making him (at the time) the only cadet to legitimately beat the Kobayashi Maru by satisfying all three mission objectives (rescue the KM crew, prevent war with the Klingons, get home safely) by sacrificing his own life, and it wasn't the Klingons if I remember right - it was the Romulans.

@letmeouttamycage 11 лет назад

This looks brilliant, needs a remake

@CountArtha 12 лет назад

6:57 It was very polite of him to stop talking whenever the static got bad. :P

@Wannagobackto1980 8 лет назад

Loved playing this game!!!!

@thrawn323 5 лет назад

Interesting how contacting the Klingons is not the First thing tried before any other actions are taken.

@hcainesjr 12 лет назад

I have often wondered if a small shuttle from the enterprise would be able to enter the zone and tow the maru out. I figured since the maru appeared to be alone an undetected, a small craft going in would also be undetected. the plot is bogus. considering that the maru is a federation vessel, it has already violated the treaty by being in the zone.

@crackshack2 12 лет назад

"I don't like to lose." James.T.Kirk lol

@heavyarms01h 11 лет назад

Those were true replicators, but it was never, even hinted that Earth Starfleet/UESPA picked up on the design. However, ENT muddies up the issue because they have "Protein Resequencers" that are essentially just very weak & limited replicators on the NX-01 even in 2151. The best guess we had in TOS was that the slots were some kind of food transport system - like Baron said, a "dispenser." Unfortunately, ENT kind of throws a monkey wrench in the whole canonical technological progression now.

@sgtjohnson 2 года назад

If I was to take the test. I’d retreat and “sacrifice” the 30 crew members and 300 civilians of that vessel, keeping the treaty in tact avoiding a war that would kill millions or more, because the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few. Plus the vessel could have been a decoy set up by the Klingons who were just waiting there and have an excuse to go to war

@Koldeman 12 лет назад

But you've gotta admit, they look a helluva lot better than the ones they had to wear in ST:TMP. These are brilliant in comparison to those pastel one-piece jumpsuits.

@dereklarner6298 3 года назад

Is it just me or do we never get either a shot of Kirk where we see him below the pec line, nor a shot of his full body close up? He knew he was looking a lot like James Doohan and ordered the director to film him in very specific ways.

@VulpisFoxfire 12 лет назад

I'm trying to remember...I seem to recall there was one game that had the Kobyashi Maru test in it..but if you took an option to reprogram the simulator so that the Klingons recognized you, instead of being helpful, they all ganged up on you so that they could get the honor of being the one to *kill* the Great Captain whatever.

@Alshoff 12 лет назад

Well, it was released in 1997, but I'd heard/read from some places that it was originally scheduled to be released in 1994/5 along with those other Starfleet Academy games. I can't be exactly sure because I don't remember where I read that. The game was at least delayed to improve its in-mission graphics, I think.

@FekLeyrTarg 5 лет назад

Cadet Forester did a fine job in programming Duk'Ret to overact. :D

@billintex001 3 месяца назад

God I'm old. I played thos game when it was new and loved it. Was very excited when it came out. The best feature of all, and I didn't know this until after I started playing, was the fact that the cadet Captain and I share the same name!

@OptimusShr 11 лет назад

Interesting tidbit: If you accidentally destroy the Maru by leaning on the launch torpedoes key because you are laughing too hard. You get unique dialog!

@robertpatrick9128 11 лет назад

not the replicators in ST Enterprise when they pulled into that automated repair station run on brains.

@randomfox12245 11 лет назад

Which is still dumb. How do they expect cadets to be afraid when they KNOW it's just another test? They're not actually going to die if they lose, so why would they be afraid? During the scene Kirk is clearly unafraid because he's taken the damn thing multiple times by that point, and it doesn't make a lot of sense that he would have been any less uncaring the first because he would have thought it just another simulation, which it was. It's a horrible test of fear is no one is afraid.

@ih8t2register 12 лет назад

so how is it, new timeline Kirk got put on trial? yet old timeline Kirk was praised for his ingenuity?

@paintedonwings 12 лет назад

LMAO Yeah, uh huh, they didn't notice that he won the only training sequence in Starfleet Academy that is unbeatable unless you cheat.

@robertpatrick9128 12 лет назад

its all done at a molecular level------matter rearranged.if there were replicators,nothing would be impossible to make-------as in ST Enterprise when Trip saw one and told Archer that if he had one,he could make all the spare parts they needed.

@baron7755 8 лет назад

I had no clue they filmed video clips for any of the games!

@SomeOrangeCat 8 лет назад

Oh yeah. I geeked out so hard when this came out.

@Alshoff 12 лет назад

All right, I've only seen a dozen or so TOS episodes. I just thought they got food out of dumb waiters connected to the galley. It never seems to come up in the movies. I don't think TOS ever used it to make weapons the way TNG and DS9 did. They should've had a workshop/CNC mill for that sort of work...

@adamparker1388 6 лет назад

I feel like I'm watching this in a Sega Saturn

@Danbutch24 11 лет назад

Classic game. Really enjoyed it back in the day. :)

@Martiangrl86 11 лет назад

Well, maybe the academy saw no point in making Spock take a test he wrote and that he knows in advance to be unbeatable. Besides, Spock was in the science field, and they probably don't have every single cadet take the test if they aren't in the command track (why should they test doctors or geologists?). Fear can be a test of character, too. It's possible that Kirk Prime never got to face his accuser in the original timeline, so he never heard Spock's particular interpretation of the test.

@gv1955 12 лет назад

This is better than the film.

@lesterclaypool1 7 лет назад

ok what about the Picard maneuver ?

@cmajors999 12 лет назад

WOW - Kirk was really hittin' the bottle in '97.

@JukeboxJoeB 4 года назад

Was this an actual TV show, or just a spoof of some kind? I grew up watching the Original Star Trek, but never saw this until now.

@KigaiOkasu 10 лет назад

Heywood Jablomey I haven't seen Wrath of Khan or read the books, so take this with a grain of salt, but based on the context here, who says that they didn't happen? Yes, the old Kirk received a commendation, but that could have happened after a trial where the discussion of tightening the rules took place. Furthermore, while the new Kirk was put on trial, we'll never know what the outcome of that trial would have been since it was cancelled during the sudden mobilization for the Vulcan rescue mission. However, just before stowing away Kirk on the Enterprise, Bones told him, "The board will rule in your favor...most likely."

@gabriellamar2683 3 года назад

I had this game as a kid!

@lwblack64 10 лет назад

The Commodore knew something was amiss...

@robertthomas5736 4 года назад

This is The P.C. Version, of Star Trek :The Kobayashi Maru

@BaronFirespawn 11 лет назад

Technically, they were food dispensers.

@dannyflynn5681 8 лет назад

a girdleless Kirk it seems

@Alshoff 12 лет назад

Probably, but running it may be a problem. I ran it under a Virtual Machine of sorts. Other people say it can run under Windows XP. I don't know about Windows 7 (probably not).

@nighthawk0077 10 лет назад

Is this the last appearance of kirk?

@nashhussan4568 5 лет назад

False teeth, work on his eyes, thick makeup, toupee, damn, Father Time was knocking even back then

@TheSilverPhoenix100 8 лет назад

My solution, even if its cold is to destroy the Kobayashi Maru. Klingons dont take captives and with failing life support they are basically dead all ready, destroy the ship to avoid any information getting out and punch it to warp 5

@artm1973 8 лет назад

As I recall that wasn't an option because you can't get out of the system once you're there.

@chrismc410 8 лет назад

I'd ignore the hail and do nothing. Even if it's true, one freighter is not worth one the lives of your crew and ship and two, one ship, plus yours and the enemy's before they destroy you with overwhelming force is not worth plunging the Federation into war over. Even if it's a true distress call, it's better 300 die than thousands and up to billions.

@HominidMachinae 8 лет назад

In the SNES Starfleet Academy you have no option to cheat, you have to "play it straight" and either duel six D6 warbirds in a Constitution, or go on your way. I elected to continue course and avoid war with the Klingons and loss of my ship. You get a 75% grade no matter your solution, making it realistic "as intended" for the star trek universe. After all, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

@MegaZeta 7 лет назад

+TheSilverPhoenix100 Your response proves that there's a way to lose a no-win scenario that would likely get your instuctor to petition to have you thrown out of any military academy, fictional or otherwise, on grounds of mental health.

@MegaZeta 7 лет назад

+chrismc410 That would also be a way to lose the Kobayashi Maru.

@BansheeBLN 12 лет назад

There are materials that are to complicated to replicate. Some instable crystals, radiating ore and other stuff. Food therefore is relatively simple to replicate.

@JustARTificial 11 лет назад

In the scenario though, don't the Klingons jam all communications? So any verbal challenge would be impossible.

@nythawknight6577 9 лет назад

I would launch a shuttle with 3 photon torpedo's aboard or a particle of antimatter in magnetic confinement. Using remote control send it about 1,000,000 miles away from the Kobayashi Maru. Take the Enterprise to Warp 8 or 9 and detonate the shuttle. By this time the Klingon's would go to investigate. By the time the Klingon's get back to the Maru the Enterprise will have beamed the Kobayshi Maru crew and passengers aboard the ship and heading to the Federation border.

@AsuraDandy 8 лет назад

+nythawk night You're mistaken about something. The klingons were already there at the Kobayashi Maru, they were cloaked and waiting. If by any chance you did that, they would only send one ship to investigate, the test had three heavy cruisers there. Plus that would be an act of agression regardless if it was just a shuttle, You're detonating warheads into the neutral zone. its a no win scenario for a reason. Built only to test the character of the captain on what decisions he would make.

@Morethanbobsonofbob 8 лет назад

Loved this game.

@edusuntrebor 12 лет назад

Choice 2 is what we saw in the new movie, right?

@dmk351 12 лет назад

this video certainly brings back memories indeed... ;)

@ScientistCat 4 года назад

I actually prefer the book's take on this part... Forester makes the same choice (third option), but game spoilers after this (I mean it's an old game, but still) instead of peacing out, the glory-hungry Klingons begin to compete for the famed Captain Forester. He tricks the cruisers into firing at one another so they become disabled... only for the new, OP battlecruiser to show up. It then takes the starship in tow, but Forester orders fire on a disabled cruiser drifting next to the OP one, as well.

@Tounushi 5 лет назад

Well, we know Kirk canonically made teh klingon ships easier to kill. One-shot ships in the 2009 movie, in fact.

@liontone 5 лет назад

Tounushi Not canon

@Tounushi 5 лет назад

@@liontone Super canon

@StarTrooper 12 лет назад

I can't agree. I would rather them than these. They should have never let Robert Wise change them to begin with.

@greene1100 9 лет назад

Still a classic actor.ST original actors are the best.

@RicksistFoundation 3 года назад

Should have went to Yellow Alert in the Neutral Zone.

@nythawknight6577 9 лет назад

Looks like Shatner had a facelift in this one. Blown off course? Question-How can you be blown off course since there is no earth type wind in space? Was it solar wind? Did everyone on the Kobayashi Maru eat beans for dinner? Was it a giant life form with gas?

@KevinMacku 9 лет назад

nythawk night Easy: the detonation was called a "gravity mine", meaning it applied force and interia to the Kobayashi Maru. Because, as you so aptly pointed out, there's nothing but other bodies' gravitational pulls to slow or stop the KM once this inertia's been applied, and its warp drive is out, any change in its velocity would put it "off-course". From there, it's subject to any and all gravitational fields in the Gamma III system that it becomes subject to. Seeing as without warp drive, leaving a star system's sphere of influence on impulse is damn near impossible, even with nuclear propulsion, they're probably already trapped in some kind of orbit around the star. If another planetary body (or even large enough asteroid) gets close enough that the two pass, the KM would go even farther off course.

@jmm1233 11 лет назад

i thinking someone bribed the examiner , because it was clearly a HAX

@nassmatic 8 лет назад

Christian Bale is at Starfleet Academy?

@zentopia7 12 лет назад

Doctor! Look out! The Master is back at 6:08

@Koldeman 12 лет назад

Think for a moment there, you really would rather see Doohan in the pastel spandex pajamas in his elder years? Not much left for the imagination about what Stephen Collins was packing under there. Joking aside, I thought the TMP uniforms was Roddenberry's call, not Wise's...but I agree, I still like the TOS uniforms better too, but these were always my favorite. To each his own. On the topic for curiousity's sake, what did you think of the other series/movies' uniforms?

@robertpatrick9128 12 лет назад

with a replicator,why do they need to pick up 'supplies'?

@Jalfmar3 12 лет назад

Watch the original series, it was often a problem.

@adamscriber2867 8 лет назад

I have windows 8 and for some reason I can't seem to fix the screen size. For example I can not see my torpedoes and phasers because they are off screen. Does anyone know how I can fix that?

@joshgellis6098 6 лет назад

Adam Scriber Have you changed the monitor's screen resolution size / the game's screen size.

@Treizez34 11 лет назад

man i remember playing this game lol. such a long time ago

@VulpisFoxfire 12 лет назад

And nope--the Klingons would suddenly have super-sensors that would pick up the shuttle. Remember--the computer cheats, and cheats *hard*. :-)

@Anarchist86ed 12 лет назад

Ever hear of dosbox?

@petenelson6654 7 лет назад

what's this game and where can I get it?

@ortwinvomschildberg4717 7 лет назад

Starfleet academy. It's on steam or GOG.com

@SFC3 11 лет назад

I made it work on x64, it has to be compatibilty mode for 95, and you must download the KA fixed version of ddraw.dll.

@Alshoff 12 лет назад

Since the plot demands it.

@mikehunt8501 4 года назад

Can I get a fucking response, please? It's been eight years.

@kamdan2011 12 лет назад

This was a lot better than the shit in the Abrams film where Kirk just went into God mode and blew up the ships, all while being immature.

@charlieboy13 12 лет назад

@TheBoxingCannabyte Cheers for that. And yeah, I'd torrent my lunch if I could, so no issue there! Didn't realise the guys at CD Projekt or however it's spelt were originally for the older Interplay. Have yet to try The Witcher 2. Although really enjoyed the first one.

@gabriellamar2683 8 лет назад

I remember this game when! I used to turn my speakers up to max during the battles, my mom would be asking me about why she's hearing explosions! Lol

@Alshoff 8 лет назад

+Gabe Sheffield And especially that guy complaining about shields taking hits.

@Alshoff 12 лет назад

The in-game Maru simulation or Starfleet Academy itself?