Starfleet's First Time Ship? The Edison Class

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The Edison Class Starship is Starfleet's first Temporal Investigations vessel designed off of the foundation of the Discovery Era Hoover class, regenerated for the 25th century. First introduced in Star Trek Online, the ship also appeared in Star Trek Picard as part of the Fleet at the end of the series and has some Time Travel related lore behind it. If that is all still canon, let's take a look.
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00:00 Intro
00:40 Real Origins
01:08 Starfleet Origins
04:33 Specifications
07:18 Summary
Star Trek Online developed by Cryptic Studios and Perfect World. Published By Gearbox.
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@thanqualthehighseer 6 месяцев назад

The Hoover Class rebuilt to clean up Temporal spills

@ManabiLT 6 месяцев назад

Or, "For when the new timeline sucks."

@Larynx_the_Changeling 6 месяцев назад

That would make a good slogan for a promo for the Edison Class!

@Pandora1337 6 месяцев назад

I love that the first 'time ship' is also a ship that was stuck in time at that shipyard. I hope they keep this in lore!

@marianochacon7782 6 месяцев назад

The Edison Class has a very Jem'hadar fighter feel to it.

@KevinTheID 6 месяцев назад

I was going to say the same thing.

@risk7376 6 месяцев назад

Looks like an unholy hybrid of a Jem Hadar fighter and a Sabre class ship. 😅

@3Rayfire 6 месяцев назад

And then came the Rex. The love child of two sides of a brutal war, the result of forbidden love.

@rhysespeace 6 месяцев назад

The saucer reminds me of the Millennium Falcon

@whyjnot420 4 месяца назад

@@risk7376 I was thinking "a couple of highlighters and the Millennium Falcon".

@wesleykim6523 6 месяцев назад

As someone who kinda felt that the Hoover Class looked a bit lumpy, I really like how the Edison Class smooths out the silhouette, even if the ship can look a little smooshed.

@Searly255 6 месяцев назад

this ship made me think that since STO has fleshed out SF Intelligence, even giving them a department colour (purple) and there own ships, the intel line. It would be nice to see them do that with the temporal investigations department as well

@AzraelThanatos 6 месяцев назад

I'd think that they don't have their own since they recruit from all of the departments there. Intel is separate because they have a separate mission profile, DTI, however, is one where they'll pop in and use whoever they need for things who might be expected to do their normal jobs as well

@peterhans3791 6 месяцев назад

@@AzraelThanatos pretty sure the T6 Trident talks about being a temporal investigations ship, although it is obviously availible to more than just temporal agents (also addressed in the promotional material if memory serves) so they may get fleshed out. We know they eventually get fancy uniforms from voyager.

@LetsTakeWalk 6 месяцев назад

I imagine all it's tech borrowed from the Tesla Class.

@zacharythomas8617 6 месяцев назад

You won my like, thank you.

@bryanbond7804 6 месяцев назад

Never heard of the Tesla Class.

@ManabiLT 6 месяцев назад

@@bryanbond7804 It's a joke about the rivalry between Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla. Tesla worked for Edison for a while and Edison didn't compensate Tesla for the ideas he generated that he used.

@bryanbond7804 6 месяцев назад

@ManabiLT Well I knew about Tesla working for Edison but I thought there was an actual Tesla Class ship.

@taiwansivispacemparabellum9546 5 месяцев назад

You mean robbed?

@skywise001 6 месяцев назад

I wonder if they were the origin of the shielded temporal data core? It could function as a ship in a bottle riding out the temporal changes and then fixing what they know changed.

@xanderx51 6 месяцев назад

Makes sense that they would have some kind of shielding. If something big changed someone has to actually know or keep track somehow. Or at some point they develop that kinda tech, I mean let's say a time mission failed how would they know?

@nexy12 6 месяцев назад

I thought the same thing, it would make sense that Starfleet would want to have a ship that could fix the timeline. Considering they were lucky with the past few incursions... that they(/we) know of at least.

@skywise001 6 месяцев назад

@@xanderx51 Back before they killed the player missions I had one where you ended up in an alternate timeline after something happened and you need to find out what and fix it :D

@jinkaru19 6 месяцев назад

Iconian Missions

@skywise001 6 месяцев назад

@@jinkaru19 Its been a concept Ive been kicking around since the Guardian of Forever :)

@CoalMinerGlove 6 месяцев назад

USS McCoy! "Damnit Jim, I'm a STARSHIP, not a DOCTOR!"

@AzraelThanatos 6 месяцев назад

You know, one potential thing for the time ships might also be that they had the older hulls and if you try to keep the same basic look as the originals, well, it also means that the ships blend in a bit more there and are less intrusive in the timeline because of it

@timwright3218 6 месяцев назад

I love that the people behind ST:Picard didn't waste the ship resource available in ST:Online.

@CertifiablyIngame 6 месяцев назад

I think they made the right choice to bring in some of the vessels while gradually adding their own over s2 and 3.

@ManabiLT 6 месяцев назад

@@CertifiablyIngame I agree, it's just a shame that it took their being made fun of for the cookie-cutter fleet in S1 for them to do so.

@Revkor 6 месяцев назад

well they had to get a slap to the back of the head for the copy paste fleets in season 1

@matthewgeorge320 6 месяцев назад

Admiral S J Hemphill? I think that’s a sneaky Honour Harrington reference.

@3two3one 6 месяцев назад

Fantastic content! I'd love to get your treatment on the Hernandez/Somerville class... ...also, could you cover Nacelle design over the centuries? Maybe extend your focus across other ship section evolutions?

@pillepolle3122 6 месяцев назад

I want a new star trek series in the early 25th century with all those cool new ships

@skywise001 6 месяцев назад

Star Trek Online has a pretty good story.

@ahsenkhan5386 6 месяцев назад

pls enough with the diluted, less trek show based after TOS

@t.800XR 6 месяцев назад

After Enterprise (except Lower Decks and Strange New World) @@ahsenkhan5386

@ManabiLT 6 месяцев назад

@@skywise001 It does, but not everyone can play it. I have serious problems with 3D sickness, so I'm never getting through much of it. (And what little I have played showed me that I really suck at the space battle aspect.) I'm really grateful for Rick's videos on the story!

@skywise001 6 месяцев назад

@@ManabiLT If you stick to one weapon type and use a few abilities you should win in space combat :P Im sorry to hear it makes you feel bad. If it helps think of it as a flat playing field. 99% of missions wont require you to leave that plane.

@Jfleshman1209 6 месяцев назад

The rear of the ship reminds me of the front end of the Millenium Falcon from Star Wars. Interesting design.

@DeaconBlues117 6 месяцев назад

I named my first one USS noclaF muinnelliM.

@peterhans3791 6 месяцев назад

That's why the hover I fly in STO is the USS weekly pigeon

@briansmith48 Месяц назад

They just turned it around and put two warp naselles underneath. 😅

@safebox36 6 месяцев назад

I completely misunderstood the title as being "a ship for first time officers" not "the first ship for time stuff".

@UGNAvalon 6 месяцев назад

“Starfleet’s ‘First Time?’ Ship” 🤣

@CrazyNights1015 5 месяцев назад

I love star trek lore! The history of ships and events just keeps me engaged with the shows and games.

@billweasley1382 6 месяцев назад

From some angles I'm getting Romulan Warbird vibes, from others I'm getting Millennium Falcon vibes.

@TopHatJackStudios 6 месяцев назад

“Romulan Warfalcon”

@navysealinguardiantank2679 6 месяцев назад

@@TopHatJackStudiosbeat me to it lol

@Andreas_42 6 месяцев назад

@@TopHatJackStudiosBetter then "Millennium Rombird", I guess?

@marsar1775 6 месяцев назад

War-falcon at least has the potential to be cool

@joshuahadams 6 месяцев назад

It kinda looks like the Falcon if it were backwards with a scaled-up Y-wing - with the Republic hull plates - bolted to the bottom.

@IrugaZERO 6 месяцев назад

Looks like a federation version of a Jem'Hadar fighter.

@deviousnate7238 6 месяцев назад

Same for me, but I think I like this one better

@andrewbutton2039 6 месяцев назад

Recovering old spaceframes and putting new tech in them seems like an interesting idea. Considering the technological context, its probably less like replacing a room sized 1950's computer with a raspberry pi, and more like stripping a half finished iPhone body and stuffing the latest iPhone tech in. Though at the time the ships were irradiated starfleet was typically using duotronic tape computers, so maybe it actually is like yanking a massive room sized tape/punch-card computer out and putting a tiny raspberry pi and a moderately sized SSD in and still wildly outperforming the original hardware.

@emptyarthaus9535 6 месяцев назад

Thats a nice looking ship. Hats off to the designer. Well done.

@DeadMech1 6 месяцев назад

I like the hull design. Compact, relatively balanced. Keeps the nacelle pylons hidden from hostile firing arcs

@scratch907amerson9 6 месяцев назад

Admiral S.J. Hemphill? Nice little Honorverse easter egg they left there.

@captainzac24 6 месяцев назад

I feel like someone should do a series of short-stories like the SCE books but about temporal investigations. Something with one crew facing different timelines

@jammyboi9797 6 месяцев назад

I never really comment but I just wanna say that this format and your voice are honestly great 👍, I cant think of anywhere that does it to the same standard / quality

@GiancarloPaniccia 8 дней назад

One of the most interesting deflectors ever. I love it.

@gislasson 6 месяцев назад

congrats sir another awesome video!

@LucaUmbriel 6 месяцев назад

Can't unsee it as a backwards Millennium Falcon

@_Pundus_ 6 месяцев назад

Haha, that's my image in the thumbnail :)

@bryanbond7804 6 месяцев назад

Not sure about the look of the nacelles but overall, I like the look of the ship.

@ManabiLT 6 месяцев назад

I'm fine with the nacelles, but that deflector dish is really weird looking.

@thetruth45678 6 месяцев назад

All these new ships are so... convoluted. I miss the old days of simple elegance.

@stankythecat6735 6 месяцев назад

Me also! I always kind of hated the Star Trek online stuff. It looks too video game

@TobyDeshane 6 месяцев назад

I'm mixed. On one hand, I love a lot of these designs (especially the STO ones [sorry, stanky]), but the quantity of ships is starting to get out of hand. Same thing with uniforms: just like starships, a new uniform design used to be a BIG DEAL... but now it's just another Tuesday. Starships and new uniform designs feel like they're invented with every show now. It's all becoming a lot less special as we gorge ourselves on unrestrained new content.

@stankythecat6735 6 месяцев назад

@@TobyDeshane I agree with you on the uniforms ! Its a lot

@HylianFox3 6 месяцев назад

@@TobyDeshane EAS has an article that discusses all the canon uniforms and their short-livedness. The OG Trek film uniforms ended up having the longest lifespan (80+) years. Most other styles last only 5-10 at best.

@ultamisia 6 месяцев назад

really love the design!!

@thomasmuennich2680 6 месяцев назад

Love your work 🖖

@feralprocessor9853 6 месяцев назад

Right off the bat, lots of background ships indeed

@richardstone5552 6 месяцев назад

Looks like a very cool little ship

@captainzac24 6 месяцев назад

Easy maintenance makes sense for a time ship, you never know where or when you might end up. Being able to rig something from whatever weirdness is available would be useful

@stevegiles9080 6 месяцев назад

I hope we get a 40 episode season of atar trek where 3 or 4 episodes would be of a different ship and crew to show off their fleet

@shawnhoff3745 4 месяца назад

I personally fly this ship online. In my opinion, it has a nice layout for using dual and heavy cannons. I love the 5/3 weapon layout.

@AberrantChibi 6 месяцев назад

What a neat little ship.

@Captain_p0wer 6 месяцев назад

Here's a question. If subspace is "a different dimension", would a ship at warp be affected by a change in the time space continuum? Why or why not?

@zacharythomas8617 6 месяцев назад

Citation needed.

@ManabiLT 6 месяцев назад

Yes, because the ship is still in our universe, just surfing between compressed space (to the rear) and expanded space (at the front). Think of the warp drive as creating a huge wave for the ship to surf on.

@brand8590 6 месяцев назад

I like it! The Star Fleet look and feel more compact and efficient.

@TheFreelancer131 6 месяцев назад

Man spooky I just bought this ship the day before this video was released. O.O it's like you knew

@spluff5 6 месяцев назад

I like the idea that the deflector "crystal" is the same technology that would eventually evolve into the time globes we see on future timeships. Klingon time-crystal?

@CoreyKearney 6 месяцев назад

I really like that one. It's instantly recognizable as a starfleet ship. But is still low profile, with everything tucked in. She looks like she'd be hard to hit in a fight.

@CliftonWood 6 месяцев назад

Thanks, Rick. Another stellar video. One question, though: at 68 m in height, would the deck count likely be under 5?

@InspirationHouseNetwork 4 месяца назад

"Looks like the Millennium Falcon backwards with nacelles. 😳" (-James)

@warwolf88 6 месяцев назад

i love this new design its such a great looking ship😊

@musichawk9307 6 месяцев назад

I like the way it looks and slick looking and compact. I would fly her.

@jeffsizer9359 6 месяцев назад

It's a fun little ship to fly.

@jorgenthornstrom 17 дней назад

Sonja Hemphill from BuShips in the Royal Manticoran Navy, doing some extra work by the side. 😂

@3Rayfire 6 месяцев назад

The nacelles on that ship are gorgeous, their flatness somehow looks really good. Not like the Gagarin's which I despise since they have a deeply illogical to me split nacelle design. I never actually looked at the deflector that closely it's really cool. Looks like the Buran class' Ion Storm Generating deflector but encased in a "snow globe".

@TheMadTube 6 месяцев назад

Looks like a Federation version of the Jem’Hadar corvette

@TeraQuad 6 месяцев назад

Cool. Like a Federation Jem'Hadar "Scarab" fighter.

@o.k.productions5202 Месяц назад

You’d think star fleets first time ship would be an Excelcior rerelease, given that it could appear in any time period and go unnoticed.

@Twitchguy Месяц назад

It’s a federation style jemhadar attack ship & it’s beautiful

@dominic.h.3363 6 месяцев назад

It just looks like a reskin of a Jem'Hadar fighter. (Yea, yea, I know, others have said it too, but the algorithm likes comments more than just likes on existing comments.)

@90lancaster 6 месяцев назад

Not seen such narrow line of sight on a ship's nacelles since the defiant class.

@terranempire2 6 месяцев назад

So if STO lore than the ship you call on because Janeway wanted a cup of coffee yesterday. Otherwise it’s the California class predecessors and Successor.

@stevenvanfossen3780 6 месяцев назад

There should also be a Tesla class vessel that has the ability to time travel, maybe have some kind of 'fork-like' design to find the correct frequency

@dasgnampf4156 6 месяцев назад

imo one of the most beautful ships of the 25th

@DanBen07 4 месяца назад

Cool.

@lsamaknight 6 месяцев назад

Admiral S.J. Hemphill? As in Sonja "Horrible" Hemphill from the Honorverse?

@brandonhoward3672 6 месяцев назад

"Last minute"😂 No the department of temporal mechanics has been using the Edison class ships for thousands of years. Or they will use them for thousands of years?? Time travel is fun

@Andreas_42 6 месяцев назад

They will have it used for a long time, very soon.

@mave3010 5 месяцев назад

reminds me of the reliant minus the roll bar

@MagnanimousEntropy 6 месяцев назад

This is an interesting design. It looks like it would make a good 25th century replacement for the Miranda Class.

@wexlinator1189 6 месяцев назад

There is the Reliant class

@mastasolo 6 месяцев назад

When they build a starship, how much equipment is hauled onboard via shuttlecraft, vs how much is transported aboard? You'd think by now they could have massive industrial replicators to create ships fast.

@tomgon3D 6 месяцев назад

I know windows can be adjusted to deal with the light from the bussards but here they still feel too close to the saucer. Plus I can’t unsee the Millennium Falcon silhouette. Otherwise I like it

@AlyssaNguyen 6 месяцев назад

I would've thought the Edison class would've begun with the Tesla class. 😂

@SolarMechanic 6 месяцев назад

... also, if you take off one of the nacells it looks like the Millennium Falcon.

@damenwhelan3236 5 месяцев назад

A ship built on the collaberative technologies of many many other people. What to call it? Edison!

@Gdsm9 6 месяцев назад

Good video, as always! I don't care much for this ship. It seems like it's all over the place and kind of a mess. I also don't love the idea of the recycled old ships we see lately. It doesn't feel Roddenberry-ish.

@stainlesssteelfox1 6 месяцев назад

Admiral S J Hemphill? First name probably Sonia. Someone is a Honor Harrington fan.

@chriss-nf1bd 5 месяцев назад

Shouldn't this class be Huygens class? For the inventor of the first time clock? Or be named after H G Wells? The writer of the Time Machine?

@feralprocessor9853 6 месяцев назад

The Color scheme kinda reminds me of the Mako from Mass effect.

@SheosMan117 4 месяца назад

Is it me, or does the saucer of the Edison look like the Millennium Falcon, backwards? Look at the notch at the back.

@damenwhelan3236 5 месяцев назад

7:03 It exerts entropy. Thats my guess.

@ThangPlants 6 месяцев назад

they just need to keep an eye on Janeway kekeke but seriously if you read the books Janeway made the right decision.

@bamikroket 6 месяцев назад

Updating these old spaceframes never made much sense to me. It's like the navy today trying to make an old steam clipper into a missile frigate.

@Revkor 6 месяцев назад

yes the changes are too much. even modernizations have a limits.

@morganb6717 6 месяцев назад

from its introduction into STO, the Hoover class (and subsequently the Edison) bothered me from an aesthetic point; the position of the secondary hull. it just didn't look correct. why place it half mid rear? it made much more sense to have the rear of the secondary hull meet at the rear of the saucer section. this thing they gave us just looked... off. just one of several questionable ship design decisions that went Live in recent years. the John Eaves conceptual art of the Hoover that you provide for us in this video ( @ 0:45 ) comes as unexpected validation.

@jaredcolon4535 6 месяцев назад

The design looks like Starfleet was inspired by the Dominion attack bug

@gamerskingdom7371 6 месяцев назад

There is a new episode out for STO.

@feralprocessor9853 6 месяцев назад

From the top looks like the millennium falcon but with more wings on the side.

@kaseyboles30 5 месяцев назад

Baryon radiation. Baryons are mostly normal matter, protons and neutrons. So I'm guessing it's neutron bombardment. Not a direct issue, but rather tends to make things radioactive and accelerate nuclear decay (a bombs work through a neutron cascade chain reaction).

@FallenAngelZero00 3 месяца назад

It looks like a pretty horseshoe crab. 💙👌

@jimmyryan5880 6 месяцев назад

Seven's ships in Picard S1 was the delta flier and no one noticed.

@craigs71 5 месяцев назад

Steamrunner crossed with Miranda?

@TheBrewjo 6 месяцев назад

Hmm, unless the name is already used, they missed a beat not calling it the Wells class after HG Wells.

@BlaiddDrwg1984 6 месяцев назад

There is a Wells class time ship. It's the class of the U.S.S. Relativity from STVOY's episode 5x24 "Relativity".

@zacharythomas8617 6 месяцев назад

Is there a Tesla Class?

@claytonbrownenglishandhist7770 6 месяцев назад

Hemphill? As in 'Horrible Hemphill' from another scif-fi franchise?

@Revkor 6 месяцев назад

I see the ship more as a second attempt at the Centaur style.

@8fconsulting147 6 месяцев назад

Reminds me of the Dominion ships….

@LordSpleach 6 месяцев назад

No Eddington Class?

@_robustus_ 6 месяцев назад

She’s got a little Millennium Falcon in her.

@RamblingRodeo 5 месяцев назад

It looks like a JemHadar ship inspired.

@OneTalkerOne 6 месяцев назад

Tobias Richter just told me that he did not design it.

@chrisbeauvais7499 6 месяцев назад

I like it and it does look like a reversed aluminum falcon lol

@exilestudios9546 6 месяцев назад

i have one of these and i named it the aluminum falcon lol

@nixboox 6 месяцев назад

You need to go back and watch the Original series. ALL the early Starfleet ships were TIMESHIPS. Breaking the "timewarp barrier" was the greatest feat they'd achieved...in the pilot. But, we can only assume that the number of temporal incursions grew exponentially so, much like they did with the Discovery spore drive, the timewarp drive was downgraded, and written off to history. But this idea was sporadic through the first series because you'd find the ship capable of flying faster and farther than any other ship in the series canon.

@matthewjay660 6 месяцев назад

This feels like a heavy frigate.

@aquariandawn4750 6 месяцев назад

New Trek producers: Ok folks, we new ships for these shows. Get to drawing. New Trek staffers: How about if we just cannibalize this video game and call it a day? New Trek producers: Whatevva.

@navblue20 6 месяцев назад

They paid for that. You can be sure of that so the video game company made a nice tidy profit. Feel better now?

@exilestudios9546 6 месяцев назад

trek fans after picard season 1: god these designs suck why not just use ships from STO since there are so many trek fans after picard season 2: god these new trek show runners are lazy they are just using STO designs why not design new ships. make up your mind