It's all the Ancients' fault: 1. They refused to confront the Ori, allowing them to ascend and gain ultimate power. 2. They colonized the Pegasus Galaxy, but their DNA was assimilated by the Iratus Bug creating the Wraith, they then allowed the Wraith to steal their technology and conquer the Pegasus galaxy, and failed to stop them. 3. They created the Replicators as a weapon to destroy the Wraith, and lost control of them. 4. Upon returning to the MW, they learned to ascend, but littered the galaxy with a network of Stargates, including leaving one on P3X 888, allowing the Goa'uld to access to them as well as left behind Ancient tech, giving them the tools to conquer the MW galaxy.
The ancients from stargate have their own page on the neglectful precursors page of tvtropes. Its not like they couldn't have cleaned up the tech they left behind after they ascended since they did interfere when Merlin tried to make a ascended being killing device.
Loki Darksong I think the point was no matter where you go the same crap happens over and Over again. And with Jack building the ARG the ancients had to have encountered some as well.
the dude who build the android (which created replicatorblocks than) had found maybe an old acient research lab? or maybe that was one of those surviving Ancient settled zivilisations, they had spread all over?
You gotta give some mad fucking props for the Milky Way replicators after watching this one. Asurans were engineered by the Ancients at the height of their technological advances, while Milky Way replicators evolved on their own, and at incredibly fast rate. Universe could've used the replicator threat again, sadly they never got around to.
+Volthoom They evolved that quickly because they had Reese's body (the origin of the replicators in the Milky Way). I just watched that episode with a friend and one of the Replicators says "We made ourselves in Reese's image".
2. I mean the same weapon was used on them and it worked a few times so we all know its possible. A friend of mine once told me, "the smarter someone gets the dumber they become" and the Alterans are prime examples.
One of the Ancients came back to Milky Way and continued the experiments on replicators. He created the human-form replicator/android called Reese. She on the other hand created Milky Way replicators.
I believe that if you watch that episode with reese again, you will figure out what I did, the planet they found her on was one colonized by preascended, and reese was and experiment of her "Fathers", that got out of hand even for them. A race of transplanted humans could not have gotten that far advanced. When the episode was made we did not know too much about the gate builders yet. The tolans were the most advanced humans who had come from earth eons ago, because they had no dark ages.
@@theleanbusinessman5431 The Alterans never cleaned up after themselves, leaving extremely dangerous technologies pretty much everywhere for just anyone to blow themselves up with, and it's obvious due to how they treated the Asurians that they had no regard for sentient life in any form apart from themselves.
I feel like the best solution would be to ask the replicators for one of the many copies of the city they have, move all the human stuff onto it, then give them the original to destroy. Bam, no problem.
That blond one gets jettisoned out of a ship and since he is a machine, he doesnt suffocate from lack of oxygen in the atmosphere or freeze. He just nonchalantly and patiently floats through space with a creepy look on a face, knowing that he will eventually reach his destination.
MrCommentz, what you say is partially true, but Reese was created by an Ancient. She was based on the same technology. So she could also replicate and create blocks from metal. She created the milky-way replicators, which eventually created human kind replicators. So it does fit in the story.
You could say the the replicators in sg1 where the weapon that the ancients had desired to fight against the wraith. I mean those bug form replicators were the perfect weapon against any technologically advance civilization. capable of assimilating tech they come across and then improving its capabilities beyond it original function. On top of that they are able to replicate exponentially having overwhelming numbers.
Don't forget that, the Atlantis expedition reactivated the Asurans, they would have remained on their homeworld, doing nothing. The Ancients wanted to destroy the replicators because they knew how dangerous they can be.
The ancients are much older than the Asgard. They occupied and populated vast amounts of galaxies. It would be impossible to gather/destroy all their technologies.
@BuuZeroC Asurans are Replicators, the originals also took on a human form, they just did it in a different manner, these Replicators were designed to kill Wrath and become the most advanced form they could take, thus why they resemble Ancients. The "original" Replicators were an accident made from toys.
What I don't understand is if the Ancients wanted to annihilate the Replicators they created, why did they have to decimate an entire planet? To me that seems pretty wasteful given how they could just use replicator disruptors without causing such wholesale destruction. Unless of course this was before they invented them but surely there has to be better ways than this.
+Krinkut Origiona The ancients dint anticipate the nanites to evolve to human form, they wanted to use it microscopically. At the time i believe they dint have any kind of shutdown sequence, or developed any, and only the wraith knew how. The asurans were probably destroyed for suggesting the destruction of the human population as a means to fight the wraith.
Why not just program them to face the wraith purely in combat and nothing else, the asurans kick ass while the ancients do the ethics, a 60 million year old civilization that can't program, wtf.
They didn't really program replicators, they programmed self-replicating, intelligent nanovirus bots that evolved into replicators as a result of their persistent attempts to improve. The Asurans were an accident, and seemed too unpredictable in the long run to risk working with. With regards to destroying them, it was a pretty cheap method at least, given that they had practically infinite power for their ships, and it took millenia for the Asurans to recover (and still without the ability to actually do anything, so they could always do it again later when they did eventually recover). Presumably they didn't want to make them vulnerable to some of the smarter Wraith, since they've proven adept at working with viruses and machine coding anyways; as a result, they might have a base code that's too difficult to tamper with effectively.
Pity the Ancients never learned to grow wiser before they made all these messes. They had the smarts to play god, but not the wisdom to refrain from doing so and causing so many problems for others. They were like children playing with toys of technology. Heedless, thoughtless, and irresponsible. A lesson lost on most humans too.
My feeling of ancients is this: imagine the most arrogant, intelligent and narcissistic person you know. And that's your average Ancient. Oh yeah and they were either a light dictatorship or strongly aristocratic society.
Just look at how many ships the Ancients used to destroy the replicators... This must have been relatively early on in the war for them to still have that many ships readily available and not out fighting the Wraith
Their ships stood no change against wraith motherships and cruisers. Most likely they weren't even introduced into any fights. I can't comprehend it. The most advanced race that a species could evolve to and they couldn't make proper shields. And their weapons based on slow drones instead of powerful beam weapons that could cripple enemies in matter of seconds.
Actually, we can't comprehend real production capabilites of spacefaring civilization. Wraith ships grew like live creatures from seeds, they could create millions of cruisers from one planet... Although, this this show is outdated (and has some logical mistakes), Ancients would produce automated ships on automated factories too... It's like difference between us with factories and Stone Age primitives with, well, stones...
Can anyone tell me how in the world the Replicators in the Milky Way even got destroyed? I mean, SERIOUSLY? A Weapon that can not reach into Deep Space and only affects Planet Surface and Orbit at best, and even that only on Planets with Stargates (not all have one) has hit them ALL?? EVER HEARD OF DEEP SPACE?! How in the world could that hit all Replicators? There should have been more than just 1-2 Ships be left, many more actually!
Is it just me or did the various _Stargate_ series each express an anti-robot/android/AI sentiment? With the exception of Daniel Jackson, I can't remember *anyone* pushing back against the "It's just a machine." argument.
What I never understood is why they did not just ask the expedition team to delete their anger routines. I mean, they possess Atlantis, so they must be able to do that.
No, rather that the Replicators didn't ask the expedition team to do it. I mean, they admitted they hated their anger subroutine, and given that they're smart machines, why not take the chance to delete it?
Didn't the Wraith already found a way to forego the aggressive programming? Wasn't that why they were no long at war with the Wraith until McKay reactivated it?
***** Ok how is it that the replicators had 10,000 years to find a way to get rid of this code and couldn't find a solution despite all their advanced technology and intelligence. Yet McKay was able to override this program with 21st century computer hardware.
I might have taken the aggression programming down a notch or two after dealing with the wraith to a point of making reasonable negotiations that benefits both.
Not evolved. They were technologically advanced compared to us Terrans. The evolved ones were those that ascended and yet, those weren’t that much more evolved.
I remember from that episode in Stargate Universe they'd mentioned that a SUPERIOR being or Race managed to create a planet just like that. (Snap of a finger) who were they talking about?
They did not specify a particular race in SGU that created the planet. The humans aboard Destiny claimed that because Destiny was not aware of the location of this planet and it did not have a Stargate (which would naturally have been placed there by the seeding ships if it were a natural planet), that it must be an artificial planet. As a result, they surmised that an incredibly powerful race using incredibly advanced technology must have just designed and built the planet, but since there were no markers saying "built by X", they could not say who did it.
James Kapahua I do not believe that they were ever even planning to revisit that mystery. It looked to me like a one-off episode in much the same way that many SG-1 and SGA episodes were one-offs with a random species or planet that provided interesting materials or questions, but were never mentioned again.
James Kapahua because people were too stupid to understand a masterpiece like SGU . That is why those human beings watch mindless sex , murder , teenage tv shows . So dont be surprised for the low watch ratings when producers cancelled the show . Also there were supposed to be another atlantis season but got cancelled too . As a stargate fan , I was very happy for seeing deadlier and realistic aliens in universe . Those blue aquatic aliens and the ones in the forest episode where those small things killed everyone on the planet . Was it alternative timeline ? Universe has the darkest atmosphere . Sg1 and atlantis have this cheerful tone . Both are about aliens while universe is about people in destiny .
So they had a beef with the ancients. Were any ancients living on Atlantis, I could understand them wanting to destroy it. But seeing as there were no ancients living there, destroying it would be pointless as no wrong doers would be punished by that action. Building a weapon that could dissipate energy, thereby killing ascended beings would be more profitable.
I realize you wrote this comment two years ago so mine might be irrelevant. However the Asurans (Pegasus galaxy replicators) were jealous of the Earthlings because the earthlings were seen as the Ancient's "favorite child". If you understand what I mean.
I disagree, they were beaten easier than the block replicators. Also the human form replicators that were with the block replicators were bullet proof. The Asurans were not which makes the block replicators stronger because they created human form replicators that were bullet proof.
the name of our story is D.A.R.Y.L., the ancients chose to destroy us because we would not become the weapon that they wished to have, we seek the one who stayed behind
What if the SGA agreed to remove this aggression program in favor of a more protective and constructive one. How would the story change and what would be the result?
Exactly the block replicators can replicate out of almost any metal and they came much closer to victory over the humans than the Asurans did. I was actually surprised at how easily the Asurans were beaten. They had Ancient ships and Ancient technology for crying out loud. Their ships should have been tearing the Earth ships apart and taking hits like Ori ships would. Yet they would take a couple of hit and blow up without releasing so much as a single drone. It was quite disappointing.
I think Stargate introduced the replicators in a very confusing way, it's either that or I'm the one confused between both kinds of replicators: 1- in SG-1, the replicators are introduced as a bug-like species, they are fast to replicate, able to assimilate any technology for their own purpose, and if not destroyed within far distance: easy to infect other ships. 2- Later, in one episode, the Asgard were able to trap the replicators in a time bubble, slowing them down and preventing them from leaving it, the replicators used that time to evolve into a human form and are much more powerful, later, the Galaxy were able to defeat the replicators under the leadership of Carter's replica (using the weapon on Dakkara), permanently ending their threat in the Milky Way Galaxy. 3- Again, the replicators show up on the Pegasus Galaxy, yet somehow they are in human form, and they don't use infection to replicate within the enemy's environment, and the question is: why ??? if the replicators in the Pegasus galaxy have the same origin of the replicators in the Milky way galaxy then doesn't that mean that they should appear as the original Bug-like species? the only ones who evolved to look like humans were the ones in the Milky Way, so how did the ones in the Pegasus Galaxy evolve as such ? Also, and it's important to repeat that question again: why don't the replicators on the Pegasus galaxy have the ability to infect & replicate ??
They don´t have the same orign. The replicator in Pegasus and the replicator in Ida are from different creators. The replicator at Pegasus are created by the Lanteans to figth the wraith,the replicator in Ida are created by a Android as a toy.
The way I always saw it, the Ancients made the Pegasus Replicators, then the Ancients left the Pegasus galaxy, but they did keep some of the research and technology. Ancient technology was then found, and without fully understanding the technology the replicators were recreated.
They are based on the same nanite technology. The asurans were created by the ancients. The milkway replictors were created by an unknown scientist who either found information on - or found the technology left behind (I'm guessing they found the nanite bench). The nanites can be programmed too form solid objects. Reece was an android that used the nanites as a self repair ststem. And since the nanites themselves can be programmed to form solid objects Reece programmed them to take the shape of the blocks. These blocks are like "circuit boards" formed by the nanites. So instead of the bond now being between nanites the bond is between the blocks. But the blocks use the same nanites as the asurans are made from.
I just dont get it man, they could have told the replicators : "Okay please allow us to leave atlantis before you destroy it, we have no reason to fight you, in fact if you need assistance with removing the aggressive protocol Dr Mckay or any of our scientists can assist, but please allow us to leave the city, we want no aggression or war with you".
Remember before the incredibly contrived and undeservedly OP Wraith were added to the story and villains actually had meaning? We could say the Asgard were OP but they were mostly neutral until the Replicators drove them to extinction/suicide. But those replicators would have never been in the Milky Way if not for the Ancients and the Ancients would not have developed them if not for the Wraith with their absurd abilities. Had the Ancients retooled from exploration to war even just long enough to defeat the Wraith, they wouldn't have needed the Replicators at all. But, even if they still made them, they could have then removed their aggression since the Wraith threat would be gone. In the end, the true villain in all of this are the writers. I love the concept of and the show of Star Gate overall but there were some bad plot holes and writing in the show at times.
Yeah... but nobody explained the origins of the first z-shaped replicator blocks.... are we to assume that those were also part of the Ancients' failed experiments too?
I bet the alternans deactivated them destroyed them, and then the wrath came along and reactivated them.. hopping to steal the alternans knowledge that they have..
10,000 years ago: The Ancients had technology that was better, then The federation in Star Trek. When they left for earth after protecting their city at the bottom of the ocean, They united with the newly evolved Humans causing the Myth of a city that sank to the bottom of the ocean. Daniel Jackson (in StarGate SG-1 discovered that an extra code was required to go to Atlantis. In the movie that was about 10 years ago!
