@@stejkoman what? No, the P90 wad never a 9mm. What are you talking about? The hole reason why the P90 was designed and build in the first place was because the old 9mm SMGs could not penentrate Kevlar body armour and NATO wanted a replacement.
Well, this episode DOES cover that pretty early on. The third episode of season 1, though, has O'Neill bribing a local with a handgun, and then getting out of there in a hurry before the guy realizes it can only be used a little over a dozen times.
@@BlackBanditXX Actually, it is. In "The Fifth Race," O'Neill disassembles Teal'c's staff weapon and removes the power supply. He then uses it to amp the Gate enough to dial the Asgard home world (using the 8th Chevron). Given this is the only time we see a staff's power unit, one would assume they last a REALLY long time. The unit in question is about 3 inches long and appears to contain liquid, thus it is presumably weapon's grade liquid naquadah.
@@Swiftbow Right, I forgot about that ep. If it is naquadah, then it ought to be long lived, but not infinite. But yeah, comparatively, much more so than any of the weapons we use. Now I'm just imagining a father showing his son how it's done, so that he can show his son someday, because it's something they do maybe once a decade IF you see a lot of action.
To be fair, most of the galaxy starts out _technologically superior_ to the Tau'ri. It's almost a reverse Prime Directive, _other_ races making _us_ a "warp-capable race" (whether by us scavenging their shit, or outright giving it to us once we've proven we know what the hell we're doing). Certainly doesn't hurt to have it be revealed the Tau'ri are the descendants of _the entire reason interplanetary, let alone intergalactic, travel exists in the first place_ and all that...
@@chriswhite3692 I guess in theory it would be she trusts herself not to shoot somebody. And wasn’t Aiming at them. Having someone point a gun at you is a different story. In reality, it has more to do with keeping everybody in the shot without taking too much time out of the show to deal with safety issues. But they could’ve done a little better.
@@ironboy3245 Yes, but really it’s only advantage is it doesn’t need ammunition, assuming the battery is long lasting. It’s accuracy and hitting power against flesh and light armor is actually less effective. We think of bullets as low tech, but kinetic projectiles are remarkably efficient
@@ravenmoon5111 im pretty sure it works well against flesh and light armor. plasma burns at 11,000 degrees c minimum. That's enough to melt steel armor plates, since steel melts at 1425 degrees c. and temperatures that high will cause instant third degree burns on just about anything. You will not survive without a field hospital. do not forget, weapons are not only made to kill. More often, shooting to wound is more efficient, since your enemy will have to direct logistics to keep the wounded treated and the troops supplied. how often can they replace armor plating if it gets melted every engagement? Also, the conductivity of steel would burn whoever was wearing the plate pretty badly as well, second degree burns at best
@@ironboy3245 All we have to go on is the lore of the show. In this scene it’s proven that the P90’s accuracy and rate of fire are superior. While I don’t argue about what a good plasma weapon SHOULD do, as you can see here, the staff weapon lacks that hitting power and due to its very poor design, would be both bulky and inaccurate. Want to see a proper plasma rifle, check the clips from the Terminator. Now, that was a weapon meant to kill
@Kakashi Hatake I can agree with this, specifically for the P90. It’s built for close quarters, but it’s not too hard to believe that SG teams’ P-90s are otherwise adjusted for longer range fights.
@@BALIST0N don’t get me wrong I love tarky I have everything level 3 except my Bitcoin farm that’s still lvl 1 but filled with all ten graphics cards but the ranging needs to be fixed ASAP bullets either drop to fast or shoot to high and since there isn’t proper ranging it fucks any kind of long range shooting obviously if your running guns with there proper bullets it doesn’t effect it to much but no tarkov isn’t up there yet
What do you mean "muzzle control?" Is it the way he lifts the weapon and points it into Carter's face? I'm sure he had his safety on and his finger off the trigger.
@@bsgfan1 Your right, that is a big no-no. But to be fair she was portraying a strong- confident woman that sci-fi liked to have to attract female viewership, she probably had confidence she wouldn't hit them. Kind of like William Tell and the apple
This really annoys me to, but to be fair the stargates were either built or moved to planets that could sustain human life, which ridiculously narrows down the number of planets, but I still wish they would've done something simple to go "this isn't earth", even just using CGI to make the leaves purple or something
@@fantasticmrnox Trigger discipline is necessary, but never rely on just trigger discipline. Obey ALL of the firearm safety rules at all times or don't pick up the weapon. He muzzled her, and her reaction was spot-on. Dude shouldn't be handling a weapon.
@@Grim67894 In my unit, if a someone did that, they'd give up their weapon and likely get beaten. You DO NOT muzzle your "comrades". The moment someone does that, no one else in the unit will ever trust them or want to be anywhere near them if they're carrying a weapon.
@@johncrafton8319 Really? I've talked to us army soldiers that say it happens all the time. Not on purpose, but it's almost impossible to NOT accidentally flag your teammates when running/on the field etc.
I love this scene because its an incredibly deep piece of world building. The Gua'uld have had a technology advantage over most other Milky Way species. They've only ever faced each other in large ceremonial battles. Their technology is designed to intimidate and induce fear more than effectiveness. From the staff weapons to the death gliders. Earth weapons were honed in live combat against real adversaries, the weapons evolved to be effective first, intimidation was just a byproduct. The Taurii tech completely blindsides the Gua'Uld and their Jaffa. They have no idea how to deal with it.
Similar to battles in the 17th to 18th centuries, which were designed to scare the enemy away into retreating, instead of flat-out killing all of the enemy soldiers.
Which is why i love when the Kull Warriors were introduced, while the wrist mounted weapons weren't that accurate, they still held considerable power, range and fire rate. Shame they weren't replicated by the rest of the Jaffa to be used.
Exactly and it's the only reason humanity stood a chance. Our technology is more practical. The things designed to kill are designed to do that in a brutally effective manner, as quickly as possible. The Goa'uld empire's tech is the result of a race that has been at the top of the food chain for far too long. They've had no serious challengers (even the Asgard, being near pacifists fighting their own dire war in the Ida galaxy) so everything has devolved into ritualistic combat and political power struggles over the millennia. Their "wars" are no longer struggles for survival, they're internecine power struggles between equals or curb stomping sessions against other races with at best medieval-level technology. Earth was the exception to the rule and by that point the Goa'uld were decadent, arrogant, and had been seriously corrupted by the Sarcophagi to the point they were incapable of seeing us for the threat we truly were to them. Had the events of SG1 somehow taken place thousands of years earlier, it's likely Earth would have been a cinder, with the Goa'uld still on their game. Not to mention, most humans in the Milky Way believed they were Gods and just rolled right over, but our 10,000 years of independence had given us a stubbornness other human populations lacked and a willingness to fight to the end
staff weapons in early season: literal RPG shots, destroying walls, throwing people 30meters. staff weapons in later seasons: little puffs of smoke, P90 brrrrr'ing through wood
The staff weapons have different settings for intensity and power. Depends if you want to kill, wound, destroy, etc. This was described by the creators.
The Staff Weapon power was still pretty strong... they mostly addressed the accuracy issues later on. What really happened was the guns were suddenly more effective. Starting at the end of Season 1, they're suddenly able to kill Jaffa with a burst, whereas before, it took emptying entire magazines, sometimes from multiple guns. (The Nox episode is especially egregious in how ineffective their weapons are... I don't think they even HIT the Jaffa in that scene. Though, to be fair, they are mostly geared for tranquilizing a giant bug at the time.) But, as some have said, the firearm effectiveness increase can be attributed to switching to armor piercing rounds. It's surprising it took them so long to do that, though... they should have been outfitted with them right after the attack on NORAD in the first episode.
I love the humor that Rich Dean Anderson added to his Jack O'Neill character. The "Hey, you, in the skirt, get that target swinging a little" is one of my favorite humorous lines from the series.
"Just make sure you get one thing right! Spell my name with two "L"s. There is another Colonel O'Neill ... only one "L" ... He has no sense of humour!"
Fun fact - they badly wanted RDA for this show bc he was just coming off MacGyver. He asked what he could do with the character. They said (it turned out wisely) he could do whatever he wanted. And Jack O'Neill 2.0 was born. Oh, RDA said he didn't want to be disrespectful to the Air Force, so he asks a general one day if his portrayal was too smart ass and cynical for an Air Force officer. The General said RDA was pretty much nailing it. He'd worked with plenty of officers way more smartass and cyincal than Jack O'Neill.
When in Rome. They’re trying to earn respect from the Jaffa who wouldn’t respect safety rules. They wouldn’t understand them either, since their symbiotes should allow them to survive accidents.
Instinctive shooting, it's an art. You can still use "point of aim" techniques with an unsighted weapon too; they just take more practice than setting a sight picture on a zeroed sight.
@@afewspokesloose2699 Also the weapon is along, straight bar. The way he holds it makes it almost like an extension of your body unlike a bow. So it's not just instictive shooting.
Well, guns were bad for the type of solo-infiltration-under-ruse-of-not-being-a-special-operative missions he specialized in. When the goal is "kill the enemy before they kill you" I think even Macgyver put aside his paperclips and pulled out actual firearms.
@@GreyAcumen Macgyver despised guns and he would always avoid using them if he could, and often only as part of a distraction or something to keep the enemy at bay.
@@BYERE True. But I know he hates guns because I remember an episode where he had to tighten a valve atop of a large dome structure, and all he had was a revolver taken off the bad guy, so he knocked out the trigger and used the guard as a sort of wrench. "I hate heights, and I despise guns. So how the hell did I end up in this situation?"
I do like the analysis by Col. O'Neill about the purpose of a weapon as compared with another. The sheer destructive power & technical advancement of the staff weapon vs. the simpler but more lethal function of the P90. Sort of a lesson on what any particular weapon is best suited for.
Really makes sense too, when you consider that the goa'uld have been using staff weapons since humans were fighting back with slings & bows. They never had any need to advance because their technology was so far beyond that of the humans they were enslaving that they got complacent in their roles as "gods" & never considered having to square up against an actual military threat.
@@SeraphimCramer kind of like chariot warfare in the Bronze Age. The tech was out dated but because all the major powers had stopped making serious war on each other they didn’t update weapon systems. Then the sea peoples started invading with iron tipped weapons and Calvary which just destroyed chariot based warfare. The Egyptians were the only power to really adjust tactics and just barely beat the sea peoples using overwhelming numbers of spearmen and no chariots.
The staff weapon does have _one_ advantage besides intimidation factor... no need to reload. But if you're using the P90 effectively, you shouldn't _need_ to...
@@MrWolfstar8 Didnt the Egyptian kingdom survive just barely against the sea people only to collapse shortly after? pretty sure the only surviving kingdom was the Assyrian realm of which intelligently receded into their homeland to weather the storm.
Fun fact - they switched to using the P90 on the show because there was a scene where a bunch of people had to fire standing next to one another, and the MP5s they were using sprayed hot spent casings onto the actor next to you. The P90 downward ejection solved the problem.
To be fair... the FN 5.7x28mm rounds have a much higher velocity and penetration value. Not to mention teflon-coated rounds are known to be called 'cop killers'.
Teflon coated bullets do not have any extra penetrating ability. The reason they made them was to reduce wear on the rifling in the barrel for high velocity rounds.
2:35 Major Carter has a good sense of weapon safety handling. Even though I'm sure what they used were props, the reaction of her's when McGuyver pointed the P90 at her was a genuine reflex.
I always liked Teal'C’s support and admiration for Sam in this scene. He and Jack know her value in battle and know she doesn’t need their support, but they’re proud to give it to her and to be brothers in arms. The writing and acting of this entire scene... I don't need it but it reminds me why SG1 is my favorite TV serie since more than 20 years.... ❤️🔥
Stargate the movie is good, but the show that is based as a sequel to the film (different actors and more story) is amazing! definitely worth a watch. 10 seasons of pure goodness. wholesome, action, humor, sadness. just overall a great show. the spinoffs are not bad either. SG: Atlantis (with jason mamoa as ronin) and SG: universe. plus in the later seasons they have ben browder and cladia black (from farscape) on the show as regulars and make some pretty funny gags about them knowing each other from their previous show.
What's funny is that although it appears futuristic and was designed well after things like the AK and AR family of rifles, the P90's operating principle *is* "primitive" - its just a simple blowback gun. No rotating bolt, not gas tube or piston system to cycle the action. Cartridge goes boom, pressure pushes the bullet one way and the bolt in the opposite direction.
That's more due to the cartridge's power level than the modernity of the weapon. The recoil impetus of a 5.72mm is about 2/3 that of a 9mm pistol, despite its longer range and higher kinetic energy
I absolutely LOVE the level smugness in Carter and O'Neill after the demonstration, and rightly so. "Those of you who've gone up against us and survived... you know who you are" 😏😅😆
@@leifhietala8074 Technically but the terms are generally interchangeable If you asked another infantryman for an extra clip rather than an extra magazine he would still know what your talking about and yhats whats important. Unlike for instance when any scoped rifle and sometimes even pistol chambered carbine is called a sniper.
The problem is that IRL no one would be stupid enough to allow it through the gate even once. Carter and Daniel literally have brains that are irreplaceable, given what is going on. Teal'c is the equivalent of a defecting General officer. His intelligence and knowledge of enemy forces is too critical to risk losing to a lucky enemy shot.
@@danielhaire6677 Well, they did last 10 years of service without any permanent losses. Fewer bodybags and more effective in missions. It was the elite squad among the elite squads.
This has got to be my favorite scene in all of SG1. There have been a number of scenes where Sam showed just how badass she was, but this one does it with extra bit of humor, and Jack is happy to give it to her!
***** No shit lol. The tiny bullet from a P-90 would not but barely scratch that log and I am not sure it is nearly accurate enough at the range to snip the rope as was shown.
Elthenar machine guns are rarely as accurate as semi-automatic weapons, especially with sustained fire.Snipers are my personal favorite, the dragunov sniper rifle is a prime example of why they are so very useful.
The way O'Neill delivers that line always reminds me of cringey workplace training talks. The fact it's used here in this demonstration is a stroke of genius from the writers.
The P90 is only as good as you have 50-round magazines to feed it and hopefully not get jammed. I don't remember any staff weapon running out of energy or misfiring. This was a really odd episode because Richard Dean Anderson is a very strong anti-gun advocate yet he plays a very strong weapons expert in this show and favors his primitive P90 over the vastly superior staff weapon. Granted the staff weapons lacks a sight and traditional grips but you can lay down fire for as long as you need to without worry or weapon's failure or running out of energy.
Cocky, smarmy, smug. Colonel "Jack" O'Niell is a prime example of raw manly anti-intellectualism. But then again ... Richard Dean Anderson has been judged as a "second-rate" actor, is worth over $30 million and might even become President one day, lol, I guess I'm doing it wrong, haha.
+P the funny thing is, Jack O'Neill was actually highly intelligent. He was never anti-intellectual and he always recognized how valuable the advanced knowledge the Carter and Jackson brought to the table.
It's one of my favorite scenes in sci-fi shows/cinema, "you can use bullshit sci-fi bullshit that's objectively awful or you can use an actual weapon". I like that.
one of those energy spears can destroy a tank in one shot, so is a considerable bit more useful than a staff weapon. Plus Wakandan warriors wear actual bullet proof armor which also helps.
@@ericmanget4280 they don't need to, numerous tanks are lost to infantry armed with RPGs and less. Give a soldier armor that can withstand a tank shell, such as vibranium, and a close to mid range weapon with the power to turn a tank to slag and your tank just became obsolete.
@@danielthunder9876 A magazine is what you actually load into the gun. A clip is basically a little piece of metal that has about 10 or so bullets attached to it. In my experience so far, generally ammunition comes in clips, which you then load into a magazine. The only time you would actually "empty a clip" is if you were firing a much older rifle such as the M1 Garand.
I watched this show when it came out with my parents when I was a very young child, I’m surprised at how many memories came back and how well I’m remembered this scene!
One of the things I loved about this show was the action scenes. They were a soundtrack onto their own. Staff blast and guns popping off was like music
Leadership points for not feeling humiliated and instead, happily acceptd and turning it into a celebration. I still want a p90 well ps90 considering civvie. Just on principle
I used to have a p90. Amazing and excellent gun. Don't get one. I sold mine because ammo 5 7x28 is impossible to find and it's extremely expensive. Also extra mags are like 60 bucks. Also also the ps90 has a stupid barrel.
This is the clip that made me watch SG-1 and I won’t lie that the 10 seasons is truly an adventure and life changing. Each character is so impactful in their own ways that I grew to love everyone, even some villains.
"This is a weapon of terror! It's made to intimidate the enemy! This is a weapon of war! It's made to rush B cyka blyat!" - O'Neill on some distant world in the 2000s.
The thing about staff weapons is how inconsistent the writers seemed to make them. It could blow giant chunks in walls and thick metal doors, but other times even on an un-armoured target the blast would be absorbed by the flesh and just leave a scorch mark or superficial wound when it should be blowing entire limbs off. Presumably this was because if it was actually consistent and did that then the show would have to increase its rating and things would be a lot darker having people's limbs being blown off every episode. In this clip the staff weapon made no notable hole in the wood even though the same staff weapons are used to blow holes in the bunker doors of the SGC in other episodes, they wanted to make the difference between the weapons seem stark just to drive the point home in this scene
This is literally my favorite scene in the entire series. Second favorite scene is Carter and Daniel Jackson eating MRE's. Daniel say, "Tastes like chicken." Carter asks, "What's wrong with that?" Daniel: "It's macaroni and cheese!" You can tell that Stargate SG-1 relied more heavily on their Air Force advisors than almost any other show, sci-fi or otherwise, especially when they got into mid-to-later seasons. Even down to Amanda Tapping cutting her hair to keep in regulation. The show really embraced Air Force culture, and that affection was widely reciprocated by both active duty and vets.
Which is why they had cameos from USAF Chiefs of Staff Generals Ryan and Jumper, and also why, after an episode where Gary Jones was addressed as "Sergeant", they got an email stating in no uncertain terms that Walter Harriman was a Chief Master Sergeant, and would henceforth be addressed as such.
well, our future space force (not a joke) will adopt a lot of air force doctrine considering that the Air Force already deals with satellites and other outer-space ventures. I agree with you that it was the right course of action. The Army and our sister crayon-eaters definitely wont have a place in space warfare for a long time.
@@mikee5718 Navy. Unless you plan to fly snub fighters across distances so vast it takes light itself years to travel across. Heck even just planet to planet is over 66 million miles at its shortest, relative to Earth.
The Jaffa taking the marksman shot really shows a very good technique for shooting a staff weapon at a shooting range. Like, excellent form. It'd get you killed in any appreciable combat scenario.
@@Ferelcapox7 Against a slugthrower, a jedi knight won't be able to easily block against solid projectiles that are harder too see and faster than blaster bolts with a lightsaber and they would eventually get overwhelmed and riddled with lead.
@@therudecanadian8068 You'd be correct. In an interview years later, the armorer stated that for realism unloaded but real firearms were used as often as possible. Rubber replicas were only used in running/ action scenes that didn't involve shooting. The entire crew, including extras, were extensively trained using real live ammo. All gun fights where there is reloading and clearing of weapons is the cast reacting to the firearms not scripted. There are several times in the show where both main characters and extras actually clear jams and perform reloads on the fly. To add to this and, much to the dismay of the actors, full power blanks were also used as often as possible. This gives the firearms a feeling of realism that can't be matched by CGI it was also apparently well loved by the sound techs as they got cool and unique sounds that couldn't else wise be achieved.
@@bishop4077Dismay isnt the word I'd use. Ben Browder and Michael Shanks both spoke positively about it. The only negative thing cast members have said about using the real guns is whenever they had to use sparking pellets in a running firefight. The actors would have actual pellets shot at the ground around them, and sometimes it would kick debris around cause small cuts on their ankles. They apparently loved the blank rounds thoughs.
@@warcraftdude13 Dont think so but they would hurt. There is a russian movie called "brat" (brother) where they shoot blank shotgun at extreme close distance and actor didint die but it hurted like hell. If I remember they left that in a final cut but after that they started pointing guns little bit to the side of an actors. link and time stamp 1:25:00 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YewLBN43HqI.html&ab_channel=%D0%9A%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F%22%D0%A1%D0%A2%D0%92%22
Fortunately, SG-1 had experienced armorers on set, rather than the prop guy with only a vague understanding of ballistics and firearm safety that The Crow used. It's still essential to exercise proper muzzle and trigger discipline at all times, but the reality is that she was in no real danger of being "Brandon Lee'd." It wasn't a blank that killed Brandon, it was a bullet. Common misconception (and personal pet peeve), look it up if you're curious; the short version is that the prop guy screwed up and left a bullet in the barrel, which the blank propelled just like a live cartridge.
@@gaskamp2 Yeah it was awful, especially because there were about a half dozen separate, individual things that could have been done to avoid it. A real firearm was used for the scene, rather than having deactivated or purpose-built blank firing weapons. The scene was shot from a few different angles, and in one angle the camera could see the cartridges in the cylinder; rather than going to the expense of acquiring dummy rounds, the props guy just yanked the bullets out of some live cartridges, tipped out the powder, and stuck the bullets back in. The scene was shot in chronological order, so the shot of the front of the weapon (with the visible bullets) was filmed first. When the actor pulled the trigger, the hammer struck the primer which hadn't been removed, and as you say, that was enough pressure to squib load the bullet. They set up for the next angle, and the prop guy loaded the blanks, but DIDN'T clear the firearm, so the squib was still in place. If common sense or a sensible level of caution had been employed by any of the people responsible for the props at any point in the process, Brandon would have lived. It twists my gut every time I think about it, but a lesson was learnt that day. In spite of the misinformation surrounding Brandon's death, his name still serves as a powerful and lasting caution to anyone handling potentially deadly weapons, and I'm sure that even the most inaccurate retellings have saved lives.
To video gamers, it was Counter-Strike 1.6 or Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. To anime/manga viewers and readers, it was probably Gunslinger Girl. To live action television, it was Stargate SG-1. Funnily enough, though the gun is thought to have been the organization's mainstay since the beginning, it was actually first introduced in Season 4 by way of supplanting the MP5 (the other notable SMG in Counter-Strike that is not the Uzi).
This is the perfect example of a strong female lead character. No Mary Sue, no special ability just a strong and confident female and mutual respect between the males and the females. And because every body knows it, nobody hast to point it out! Maj. Charter has always been one of my favorite characters in TV history.
I'm a little older. I remember useing Smiggys in the early 70s. A simple 9mm sub machine gun. As BG on the show we used a variety of weapons prop disguised as future tech or alien. My favorite is a toss up between a prop made over WW 2 Nazi submarine flare gun and the Fully automatic hand gun. The hand gun fired almost as fast as the regular submachine guns.
Unpopular opion: mass shootings are good because otherwise these people would be using indiscriminate weapons of terror instead of pin-point precise weapons of war. My opinion: If you're going to take my guns because of someone else committing a crime that's guilt by association - and the only association being ownership of an object.
@@DSiren Your unpopular opinion is wrong. Outside the fact that "weapon of war" is a meaningless qualifier most mass shootings happen with handguns. But I agree with the sentiment, if mass shooters really wanted to just kill people, they could just homebuild a bomb or rent a semi truck...
@@Dja05 I totally understand what you mean. IMHO the only gun control that would ever make ANY sense would be pistol control and the privilege of concealed carry. Ain't nobody going to ambush you with a rifle, ain't nobody going to pull a rifle out of their ass and get the drop on a cop. Ain't no way you'll hide a rifle from your ex before executing her, but hell yeah you can organize a militia with riflemen. The fact they're going after rifles despite the statistics and the basic fact that you can't surprise someone with a rifle, proves this is about all guns. When you see a rifle you know it's there, it's big and therefore will catch your eye better when it's moved. Then again, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED so I don't even support pistol control. Maybe a national pistol registry to make traffic stops safer, but not control.
@WystenDraco I really did phrase it wrong, but I agree with you entirely. However, I don't trust the government to determine who is or isn't mentally healthy, in fact I don't trust anyone with that kind of power. I am also of the opinion that we shouldn't be releasing those who we couldn't trust with a gun (in regards to ex-felons). I believe, once you serve your time, rightfully or wrongfully accused, you should be able to lawfully own a gun.
Combine the two weapons. Take a staff weapon, cut it down to just the plasma projector, add rifle grips and iron sights. Much higher accuracy, and much more ammunition than the P90. Plus it prevents the Jaffa from being dependent on Earth for ammunition. Add a sling on top so it is easier to carry hands-free. Plus you can put an under-barrel Zat on it, or reinforce the stock, or add a bayonet, or other fun stuff
I think they made a point later in this episode though about the magazines supply dependency. Which is a good point. But in "reality" it's really because having a weapon with a seemingly everlasting energy source is nonsense.
It's not so much that the things would be everlasting, just heinously long-lasting in standard operation, and if they do run dry, there's going to be plenty to replace them with. Likely even a facility to produce more, that the Jaffa could use. On the other hand, human guns and ammo are far less dense, and worst of all, they will only ever come from one place.
One of my favorite parts of the Damned trilogy is when the Weave learns that Earth hasn't figured out fusion energy but has missiles that can take out spacecraft.
This has to be one of the greatest product placement for a firearm in TV/movie history, up there with James Bond's Walther PPK. 20 years later, every mention of the P90 is sure to make people think back to that scene. Just read the comment section of any RU-vid demonstration video of that weapon.
I love the Stargate franchise and SG1, but SG1 as a whole is advertising for the military. Advertising for why it's good the military keeps secrets, advertising for why it's bad the military has civil supervision etc.
Believe me, everything after Season 8 is quite rough. Same with almost everything on Babylon 5 Season 5. At least it didn't nonsensically as Battlestar Galactica 2003 though.
A pretty good representation of Goa'uld weaponry: form over function, symbolic meaning over functionality. Also I genuinely enjoy how even after being at war with the Goa'uld for years, O'Neill still pronounces their name wrong.
Staff weapons deal greater damage and possess greater endurance than any comparable Earth longarm. Plus, energy weapon blasts aren't affected by gravity or wind. That weapon does have its uses.
Oh, hey, this guy was in SG-1, wow. Last saw him in Supernatural and The Magicians. SG-1 is still the best sci-fi series, ever. Yes, even better than BSG. SHOTS FIRED!!
Note to anyone who wants to have prop guns in a movie/TV show: don't have P90's with transparent magazines. after you shoot 20+ rounds into something we can still see that there hasn't been a single bullet taken out of the damn thing.
Naw, you can just about see the brass coming out of the bottom of the weapon as she's firing. Most productions use real guns firing "hot" blanks to produce a more distinctive muzzle flash. Most likely the inconsistent number of rounds loaded is because of multiple takes.
Stormtroopers are very good shots. The 'stormtrooper aim' trope, is a myth. How bout when they boarded Leia's ship? Which side of that would you want to be on?
@@springbloom5940 You mean when the Stormtroopers were firing down a tight hallway filled with enemy targets? Uh...yeah. Of course they managed to actually hit something. I love how people bring up that scene like it's some kind of impressive feat of accuracy. There's really nothing impressive about it. They should've been completely slaughtered pushing through that tiny fatal funnel. The only thing that saved them was the defending Rebels being even more ridiculously inaccurate than the stormtroopers. It was laughable how they couldn't hold that doorway with that many guns focused on it. Nah. Stormtroopers are consistently shown to be cannon fodder that only achieve victory with overwhelming with numbers. Which side would I want to be on? Definitely not the stormtrooper's side. They suck.
@@springbloom5940 Go look up fatal funnel and how dangerous moving through it is, kiddo. Kinda the reason why it's called that. 10 armed and ready troops focused on that one small entry point and they barely hit anything. They're total garbage. And the attacking horde of stormtroopers were just blindly charging through and wildly firing down a narrow hallway crammed with targets at near point blank range. Laughably incompetent defending force and target rich environment in a confined space. There's nothing impressive here and definitely nothing that supports good stormtrooper aim.
@@Gunnar001 Your assertion appears to be that an assault can never succeed against against a basically competent defending force? Makes one wonder what we all have been training for, huh? Um, I know what a 'fatal funnel' is, dumbshit. I also know what massing a breach is 😒
Jack: "I can't arm you, sadly. The Prime Directive applies... HAHAHAHA!!! OK, I can't finish that sentence with a straight face. The Prime Directive is to kill Goa'uld. Here you go."
SG-1 was the tale of the "primitive" race constantly being told that we couldn't have the fancy tech because of the alien's prime directive. (Seriously, look at the Tollan... they are basically Picard/TNG.) And yet look who saved the Galaxy...
@@Swiftbow Stargate also had its fair share of episodes, where idiots stole, or just tinkered with stuff that was plain out of their league, causing disaster scenarios. Hell, sometimes, it was even SG-1 that were the initial idiots! Sure, all well that ends well, but it's the kind of stuff where you only have to be reasonably unlucky once. We might not appreciate it much, but a decent chunk of the time, the haughty elven asshole isn't even fundamentally wrong. *And, also, you can't really have a "Bad," end for such an episode, and keep running the same show anymore. So more or less impervious plot armour.
@@Neuttah I won't quibble that the team made mistakes, though. (I'm looking at you, Atlantis.) But Sam takes the cake... her decisions with Replicarter almost destroyed the entire galaxy. Fortunately, she was also smart enough to fix her own mistake. But If you're going to bring up the plot armor that solve some of the poor decisions, you also have to acknowledge that some of the bad decisions are equally forced to let the plot happen. Such as Shar're's death. Why didn't Teal'c have a Zat gun? Or with her again, why, after she gave birth, did they leave her on the planet instead of bringing her to Earth anyway? The problem with the very haughty races isn't so much that they don't share tech... it's that they also don't do crap themselves. Hell, the Tollan did NOTHING for Earth in the whole series. The one time they MIGHT have helped (Jack and Teal'c stuck in the X-301), they "had no ships in range." The Tok'ra were haughty, too. But at least they were actively engaged and did participate in joint missions. There were issues, but they didn't stem from the lack of tech sharing. (Which they did to a degree... use of crystals, invisibility decloakers, and developing the anti-Kull Warrior weapon.)
@@Neuttah I see it as Stargate was very much driven by 60's Star Trek, but with more distinctly American exceptionalism and optimism regarding dangerous technology. Like come on every country is apparently happy for America to represent Earth intergalactically, and the US is the only one with spaceships. The haughty elven asshole is always undercut for that reason, like when the Tollan were too "naive" about the Goa'uld, and O'Neill is often seen as a superior example/representative of humanity compared to Daniel Jackson, even to the Asgard just coz he's a gun totin 'merican. It's all because of the unconscious bias towards the protagonist, anything that seems perfect has to be "wrong" compared to the protagonists approach. It's a great series don't get me wrong, but nothing is ever perfect and to me the main strengths of the show are actually the character relationships and humour, which is why every spin off has underwhelmed financially. The actual series concept was undercut before the series even began, the real sell was the issue of the week stuff.
