STARGATE Ships Explained: DAEDALUS CLASS Battlecruiser 

At the rate of how many they built by 2010 their could be about 16 now in 2021 unless they change models or 9 billion is to much for an intergalactic spaceship

Price in case of minimal corruption?

I was just about to comment this the moment I heard it

Lmao I was about to say that the Daedalus were a direct improvements to the BC-303

I was going to mention this myself. I believe they started on the class right after the Asgard upgraded the Prometheus in S6 integrating the tech in the design from the start.

Actually, when he is in that one ship and gets attacked. You can clearly see the same fighting style he used when fighting wraith.

Thank you....

YES

Who is this aquaman you speak of?

Haha same

Ikr that sounded super cheap for what it was doing XD

Most of the parts were stolen or gifted though and there's inflation to account for, sg1 is about 20 years old now, or something.

@@manchannel7003 The daedalus was built from 2004 to 2005.

That's where "or something" applies. Its still 16 years ago. Ish.

$7 Billion?! A real life aircraft carrier from US navy costs $13 Billion You can easily quadruple that for the Daedalus

Odyssey class* Odyssey first ship BC-304 CLASS!!!. The first ship is BC-304 Odyssey SG-1. Then BC-304 Daedalus SGA. Then BC-304 Apolon SGA. And Then General Hamond SGA SGU.

@@VLASYARA Nope Deadalus came first.

​@@VLASYARA Daedalus was first. That's why the class is named DAEDALUS. Doy you got it?

@@VLASYARA there is no Odyssey Class It is Daedalus class, code name BC-304.

@@VLASYARA Daedalus is explicitly referred to by McKay as the "sister ship of the Daedalus". This means the two ships were constructed in tandem, making Daedalus the namesake of the class.

It's a lifetime of study

@@GenerationFilms thanks to you it’s easier !

@@GenerationFilms wow

@Pat Fenis first of all your name is good, and then, I cannot wait for that either !!

@Pat Fenis I know that Installation00 is trying to do that with tech from the HALO series. Maybe we can get him or one of his friends to do the same with Stargate tech...

Wow. USA aircraft carriers are more expensive than a freaking interstellar battlecruiser......

Now you know where they are getting the money for the Daedalus.

@@norm3380 cancel the build of an aircraft carrier you mean? Yeah, easy to understand why they would choose to build a space capable battlecruiser that doubles as a carrier to boot,instead of an ocean bound carrier.

@@dont_taze_a_bloody_gas_main No I mean hide the cost in an existing project. DOD does it all the time. You seriously think the F35 really costs that much? So why not double the cost of an aircraft carrier, to siphon the funds to build a spacecraft if stargate. They get to blame the ship yard and the public buys the story.

Price in case of minimal corruption?

What's the joke?

@@Hammerhead137 It's a director's trademark. like the blue gello seen in some episodes.

@@ruiromao5726 I WAS ABOUT TO MENTION THE WHIPPED TOPPED JELLO IN MARTINI GLASSES!

@@ruiromao5726 Or like Abrams’ Red Balls.

Can'tsay I'd ever noticed the pineapple thing - apart from the space pineapple in the fruit basket for Carter when she took over running Atlantis.....

Crazy when the Cylons EMP'd the Borg cube.

@@JaredLS10 or when the autobots showed up to fight the daleks

Then the Replicators show up because Q isn't entertained enough.

Bruh! Give a spoiler alert!

Or when the heart of gold turned the wraith hive into a petunia while they were distracted by dark helmet sucking the wraith out with his huge vacuum.

The WHole shoe was a great evelution of Humans using alien tech to eventually use it to build massive battlecrusiers

we came so far, from being trigger happy idiots with nukes to players on an intergalactic scale

@@vinaypatel94 That's what made the series (plural) so fun. You got to see humanity slowly progress all the way from 1990s tech to an intergalactic power. With lots of episodes dedicated to how little pieces of alien tech were incorporated into the ships and fighters (not always successfully).

It'd get absolutely shit on an O'neill class Asgard warship, so no it isn't the best.

@@valravnsshadow9422 lol yea this guy drank waaaaay too much of the koolaid. Bruh... just keep it to 2 servings per hour and you'll be ok next time lol.

It's certainly up there. This thing could absolutely wreck any ship in the Star Trek universe, and could probably do the same to the Star Wars universe.

@@ICU1337 you say that, but technically, Daedalus class ships are essentially the human version of Asgard ships at this point. But with other tech they gathered plus earth tech. It would go to to toe with an O’neill class ship. The only real difference being the size and maybe what it’s made out of. Which they could technically replicate because the Asgard left them literally everything. That’s not hyperbole. They left them all their knowledge

@@yoboyrob201 the Asgards had all of the knowledge of the Ancients. They still didnt even scratch the surface of Ancient technology though. For a more relatable example. I could give you a nuke, the instructions and manuals and knowledge to make a nuke, and you still wouldnt be able to make a nuke if say, you were a caveman. I feel like Star Trek/Wars use so much plot armor in their space fights that its impossible to say. ST makes "science and exploratory" ships yet there they are whooping the Borgs, Klingons, Romulans, and Dominions ass 🤷🏽‍♂️ SW how the Empire loses fights with their ISD I and II's is beyond me. Big ole ISD gets taken out by accidental kamikaze 🤷🏽‍♂️ But while I dont think they're THE most powerful spaceship in all of SciFi, I certainly do agree they make it into that top 10 list discussion and at the very least, if not, an honorable mention!

It was a Greek tragedy

Why couldn’t they call it enterprise 😁👍

WAIT WHAT!? < sounds of research > Yeah, okay, you’re right, @Stardust Neo Shadow Vulcanus Nova Alteisen…

It's O'Neill with two Ls! (Sorry couldn't resist)

If the USN had a 304, it ABSOLUTELY would have been USS Enterprise.

Thank you! I always wondered how they came up with a solution so quickly, and now I know. Now I'm wondering if it was planned ahead of time by the writers, or a convenient bit of world building they were able to add later through the Vanir story arc? Though it does work together really well either way.

I thought it was because Asgard tech was based off of Ancient tech. Older transporter tech sure but still?

@@dragonsword7370 I don’t think it was ever stated that it was like that

@@dragonsword7370 The Ancients never had beaming tech, they had transporter rings, they might been inspired by the rings, but beaming is different, trust me, I took a PhD in this.... I didn't

@@cdsr16 I think its Fanny that the vanir are the less Moral ones, while in the norse mythologie they are based off, the asgard are the more aggressive and warlike of the two.

I have a old star trek game where that was a option in battle. It even had a option of transporting across something that would harm the occupants allowing you to capture the ship. Maybe it was their training simulation pack. "Due to budgetary constraints, your training will be using this game, good luck".

also, once O'Neill lied during interogation and said he is captain Kirk

Jack: "They did not approve it" Cater: "The mission?" Jack: "No thats fine, they did not approve the name" Cater: "But sir ... we cannot call it Enterprise" Jack: "But why not?" (rephrased a bit)

@@patrikmodrovsky1842 "Okay, seriously. My name is ACtually Luke Skywalker." 'interrogator - "Get him OUT of HERE!"

Wasn't there one episode where Shepard and Ronin were watching an episode of BSG on TV???

They're not dead though, sort of. As they were all clones, clones of which humanity still has access to given the fact the Asgardians gave humanity all their knowledge.

There’s also that offshoot of the Asgard called the Vanir in the Pegasus Galaxy

The best Thor.

They should make a show about the asgard to honor their legacy.

@@Zantides they could make the clones yes but the clones don't have a conscience. When the asgard switched bodies their conscience was downloaded to a computer and then put into the new body. All the asgard died none of them downloaded their conscience into the asgard core that we know of.

RIP, Don S Davis.

@@Predator42ID Yeah, I loved that they named a ship after the General. Made sense that they had his character pass away in canon once the actor also passed. Having Sam captain that ship was just extra awesome.

I remember thinking at the time why would they even send the Prometheus. Shouldn't they retire it? Turns out...

Yeah, that's right. Prometheus was destroyed in the ninth season of Sg1, which ran parallel with Atlantis season 2. Daedalus was introduced at the beginning of that season (Siege - part 3).

Martin Wood's cameos always have him working on something with Sgt. Siler and a huge wrench.

that was Will Waring

@@CrAsHBon right

The Orion was such a cool freakin ship. Every time we got to see a Lantean battlecruiser it got shortly destroyed each time. Im still irritated that during the Battle of Asuras they didn't beam down teams to the planet to gather ZPMs, and then to the Asuran battlecruisers to commandeer them.

@@jasonbond4591 At least after the power grid was down. I would have to rewatch the episode but I'm quite sure they discussed the possibility to get some ZPMs. Well at least the Wraith had the idea 😅 But yes, I also like Lantean ship design, as well as Asgard ships 🥰

I wish they do more of SG1, Atlantis or even SGU and they show us a ship, either Daedalus class or a new class, that integrates some of the Anciet weapons and technology from Atlantis and the Pegasus galaxy. With the Daedalus class we have a blend of Ancient and Asgardian technology which represents 2 of the Four Races. The Nox won't share their technology and the Furlings have seemingly went extinct then the Tauri which are almost the 5th race all from the Milky way Galaxy so next would be to add the technology of the Ancients. (Editted to change Goa'uld to Ancient)

@@JosephDawson1986 I kinda wanted to see the Tau Ri battlecruisers start firing Ancient drones at enemy ships at the same time as teleporting nukes into the enemy vessels and firing the Asgard beam weapons. All of this using copied puddle jumper drones as fighters to create a nightmare for basically anyone who opposes them.

@@Zachomara same here. Heck one battle cruiser could wipe out the Goa'uld and free the Jaffa and the Tok'ra could start screening symbiotes for Goa'uld and not let them implant in a host but all Tok'ra to have hosts.

@@JosephDawson1986 FYI: the Goa’uld were not of the Four Races, of which were the Asgard, the Nox, the Furlings, and the Ancients.

@@retalus yeah I saw I said Goa'uld. I meant the Ancients. The four races were the Ancients, the Asgard, the Nox and the furlings

I mean he just skipped over Ark of Truth entirely so I guess that doesn't count?

Yes, but this was another thing that was added by the Asgard before they all died. As the ships were initially built, they didn't have that technology.

@@FrozenShepard So he mentions Asgard weapons/hyperdrive/shields/datacore, but not the Asgard replicator that came with? ok then. :/

@@UGNAvalon Well, it's really just a modification to the beaming technology. But they also don't really use it. I'm guessing that it's a power hog or they just don't feel the need.

@@FrozenShepard No, it's because they don't have a full grasp of the technology yet. Keep in mind they had thousands of years of technological knowledge gifted to them, plus all the Ancient tech on Atlantis. For all the cool stuff the 304s could do, keep in mind aside from the new Asgard weapons, those ships couldn't hold a candle to an O'Neill class warship. Plus, the moment anyone says replicator, guns get drawn and bullets start flying. Actually that could lead to a very comical moment if a Tau'ri ended up in the Trek universe.

The Apollo and Daedelus team up with 6 Wraith Hives, 12 Travelers, 1 Aurora.... and a partridge in a pear tree...

Actually that’s for a later attack.

I always wondered why they didn't beam crews onto the asurans ships once they were ripped out of them. The humans could have had a fleet of brand new ancient battle ships. That part never made sense that they didn't even try.

@@Phil-rs5wl Firstly, they probably didn't have enough time to take over a ship. It was literally a few minutes from when the Asuran ships went derelict to when the planet blew up. Second, I don't think there was enough crew on either the Daedelus and Apollo to take many, or any ships. Let alone the fact the Ancient gene requires to man each ship I think was limited to mostly the Atlantis crew. I don't think anyone in the USAF which made up most of the crew on both ships, got the gene therapy since they were Earth-bound where things like the Geneva convention prevented this.

@@HeadlessChickenTO but the wraith had enough time to beam down to surface and steal a full compliment of zpms to power a super hive. Seems like more time to do that then beam to a ship and engage hyperdrive

I had to scroll too far down for this. It was installed by the Aasgard in the last episode of SG1

Now they can make synthehol and party all night like teenagers drinking non alcoholic champagne and pretending to be drunk.

It also seems that their food has taste unlike replicated

You are right. Both the Daedalus class and the Ori ships are made for war. As such, both have powerfull weaponry and strong shields, so the federation will just get hard yeeted by these ships, as they are exploration vessels

@@octi118 Not to mention federation ships are made of explodium.

The Federation has FTL weaponry and achieves FTL inside normal space. The Ori and SGC can't even hit them with their light speed and less weapons as they aren't equipped to fight normal space FTL ships. They can't even detect the photon torpedoes fired at them.

@@Scanner9631 Ori would be just snap their ascended fingers and ended any federation ship instantly, with their own energy. Just like one ascended ancient did it with wraith ships in SGA. Or would kill all crew in short notice. Daedalos class would use their plasma beam weapons, which are superheatet plasma formed in narrow beam, designed for overloading even the most durable shields and then imediattely burn through hull. And thats their basic state. If ZPM is conected to the ship systems, all its energy output is litterarly tremendously multiplied. ZPM is energy source and is the most powerfull energy source known to exist there. It can be used for opening intergalactic wormhole. So the power output is absolutelly immense.

In a hypothetical Milky-Way vs Milky Way fight, at first, yes. But the Federation is very adaptable, and far from beyond stealing tech in times of war. They also have 1/4 of the galaxy's resources at hand, and a much larger, educated, technologically advance population from which to not only pool resources, but to innovate solutions. The SGU is barley branching out beyond earth, most humans exist in pre-tech civilizations, and they are still recovering from several galaxy wide events that ended in the destruction of, and/or limiting of off world allies and resources from which to draw. While your ten selected ships could launch a devastating attack on one or two locations, the Federation's weaker, but vastly larger number of ships could attack a hundred(or more) targets at once, only coming to together for select raids, and splitting up as soon as the mission failed. There is no way your 10 ships could keep up with, or hunt down the thousands of Federation ships. They would be relegated to protecting maybe 3 key systems, and some limited supply convoys. As soon as the Federation figured out the tech used, and adapted it to their own ships, and built new ships with that tech at the core, the SGU would be toast.

I always forget that they literally have time dialation tech on the ship

Riak’s wife

And Trip.

@@aofjaysjayofas8378 That wasn’t a cameo, he was a main/secondary character for quite a while.

That is what I was thinking as well.

It was Odyssey actually, and if I remember correctly they need ZPM for some of the more extreme features

@@muhammadarifbillah984 Well they did it for some 50 years.

O’Niel, that guy has no sense of humor.

That would be epic

I'd watch a reboot for damn sure

@@lieutenant_dan27lt.d45 I wouldn't mind a reboot but really I just want the rest of the series on Netflix

Or, y'know, any of them (outside the US).

@ Seriously, it's truly remarkable the steps one needs to take to watch a good series these days when not in the US.

"This is Col Chekov, It's time to ROLL OUT!"

also after Vala become pregnant without you know what, she asked if they heard about something similar, Carter was ready to say Jesus probably, but Tealc was faster and said Darth Vader

@@patrikmodrovsky1842 Haha, I forgot about that XD! That was a weird episode to watch as a kid.

There's also where Mitchell was in Command of the Odyssey in The Ark of Truth, he sat in the command chair and said "Make it go" :)

He added it to the Odyssey actually.

Sadly that knowledge was lost when they reverse time and even if Teal'c knew how to do that he swore to himself not to tell anyone what happened.

That is actually a funny idea for a video, Iron Man VS Darth Vader, Who's Suit is better?

i'd say iron mans suit is better but vaders force powers would be more effective against iron man. I'm pretty sure vaders suit was even designed to be intentionally dysfunctional by palpatine to more or less keep vader under control by giving him outdated equipment. I think even greviouses armor was more advanced than vaders.

@@GiRR007 Imagine what kind of suit Ironman could have given Darth Vader had he designed it.

@@GenerationFilms cool

Omg, that is so random, I will be on the lookout, thanks

Must be embarassing if your a director with a visual signature and that scene you put it in just happens to be the one that has to be cut for time/flow.

It was mention at the end SG-1 S8 / end SGA S1 Daedalus was doing runs around Earth's Solar system and the visuals was another Prometheus and Strike Team said Daedalus was on it's way, powered by ZPM and be there in 4 days verse 3 weeks from Earth to Atlantis. Prometheus was destroyed mid S9 SG-1. Can't wait till they start talking about the Lanten Aurora-class battleships, those were so badass.

Which was then used to build a Stargate Replicator.... 😱

Except the Prometheus, which failed completely every time it was used.

Not only that how many other city ships did the ancients build

Which makes sense because the Asgard had that tech the entire time

@@yoboyrob201 Yeah, and the information on how to do it is in the Asgard computer core they just installed earlier in the episode, all she had to do was implement it into the already installed Asgard systems. After all Daedalus class ship beaming teleporters aren't just Asgard design, they are built and installed by the Asgard themselves originally, they are the same as what the Asgard have.

That's because the Enterprise D is a stellar anomaly magnet.

@@Zachomara that, and the fact that beige is so late 80s/early 90s😉. Also to me the Daedalus class looks kind of like a 60s-70s muscle car to the Galaxy classes early 90s Lexus.

In X3 terran conflict my primary solo ship is the 304 deadalus

Explodium, it’s got what Sci-Fi ships need.

Agreed. You expect the finale to be epic and get just so, so instead.

Yet it would be impossible to fit an F302 into the hangar of the smaller size daedalus. It simply does not fit.

@@thehighground3630 yeah that said Hollywood dooms to have a bizarre notion of aircraft. Real world combat jets are quite large. But not nearly as broad as the 302 appears on screen. Not to mention cockpits are far smaller. The separation between an FO RIO WSO ect. Is much smaller. I chalk it up to Hollywood is weird. Consider the AIM-128, clearly based on the 120 of you scale the 302 according to that alone it’s a much smaller craft that what alpha cannon reports. Thus should really be able to operate from the flight pontoons. Consider the height often shown in compartments. On a Nimitz class the hangar deck extends from 01 to 03 in terms of height optically is looks much taller.

Yeah I should have included more for effect

It was a prototype and it was destroyed, remember? Also, this is a weekly series, they don't just have time restrictions, but budget restrictions too. If either of these runs out you just have to call it a day put out what you have.

@@krane15 you obviously didnt watch the show then. The o neill class asgard ships were made in large quantities after the prototype was introduced and destroyed. to replace their Bilskirnir-class ship and it became the main ship the asgard used after that. frankly they had the o neill class for at least the last 6 seasons of sg1. The budget had nothing to do with them not sending the ships to earth. it is easy to copy and paste a 4 second scene of multiple ships that look exactly alike in earths orbit. hell they didnt even need to show the entire fleet they could of reused old footage ( like they have done before) showing just one asgard ship over earth and let the characters explain what we cant see. it was just a giant plot hole that the writers did nothing to explain.

Given how dismissive McKay generally was of how militaries organize things, he probably just didn't care about the difference between sister ships and evolutions of a design. He might also have been speaking metaphorically, since other people imply the 304 class was designed with lessons learned from the Prometheus in mind. I'm not really sure what those are, since they seemed able to upgrade the Prometheus with much better tech just fine, but that's the implication.