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Steel vs Ceramic Ballistic Plates 

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Today quality made ceramic composite plates are readily available for a reasonable price so there is almost no argument left for buy steel ballistic plates.
Steel plates are usually very heavy and can be dangerous without an effective spalling protection.
But are steel plates really that ineffective as the internet is trying to portray them?
Lets find out!
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Комментарии : 674   
@John-un3lj
@John-un3lj Год назад
Never forget to put Mosin on full power mode before shooting.
@gratefulguy4130
@gratefulguy4130 Год назад
Only for those 10km shots
@pokemon1895
@pokemon1895 Год назад
And only if you're a highly trained black ops delta SEAL operator. It's highly dangerous to the user otherwise.
@christopherreed4723
@christopherreed4723 Год назад
But you have to have points into the appropriate Engineering skill to overcharge your weapons.
@christopherreed4723
@christopherreed4723 Год назад
I sure hope y'all don't have a Telegram account, because I just flagged a post from it as spam 😄
@Greekmilsim
@Greekmilsim Год назад
Level 4 plates don't stop stronger rounds than 7.62 NATO
@EricBrownWins
@EricBrownWins Год назад
Good video. Nice to see someone who isn't sponsored by an armor company talk about armor reasonably.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
Thanks Is there anything specific with armor that we should try next?
@Kappi1997
@Kappi1997 Год назад
@@PolenarTactical I'd be interested into drop tests. In the army they always told the fudd lore that once a ceramic plate was dropped to the ground it is useless
@John-un3lj
@John-un3lj Год назад
@@PolenarTactical Since you ask - I'd recommend using different bullet types for the different calibers to show different results from different bullet compositions, as I assume that the bullets you used in this video were all new production FMJ lead core types derived from civilian manufacturers. Seeing as almost no military to speak of still uses lead or at least in the process of phasing it out and replacing it with other types of materials, such as copper and steel of varying hardness, I think it would provide a deeper insight into the performance of the armor if it were ever a need to actually use it. I suspect however that it might be somewhat tricky, with legislation and avalibility and all that but if you could - it would be very swagger of you.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
There is some truth in that - older plates were made from a single piece of ceramic that if cracked it could potentially spread apart and offer a path for a bullet to penetrate. But modern plates use small square or hexagonal ceramic tiles that are bonded together. This offers better multi hit capability but also negates any potentially downsides of cracks - even if the tiles crack, the plate should offer the same ballistic resistance
@NoChillMan
@NoChillMan Год назад
@@ptitlinge that's a scam, dude. If the username is "Text me at..." then a creator's name, it's a scam. No reason a creator would make a 2nd account like that for a giveaway.
@gratefulguy4130
@gratefulguy4130 Год назад
That would have been hilarious if it cracked when it fell.. "Steel wins!" 🤣
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
Despite all the warnings cracked ballistic plates are still effective
@dj1NM3
@dj1NM3 Год назад
@@PolenarTactical Obviously, the odds of hitting exactly on an effectively invisible (it's buried inside the plate construction) crack (presuming it really did crack) is so vanishingly small that it could be ignored, just like the chances of real-world threats hitting in precisely the same spot to avoid intact ceramic are also very small.
@v.german11b
@v.german11b Год назад
Best, wittiest, informative, interesting firearms channel, second to none! 😎
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
Thank you :D
@RonOhio
@RonOhio Год назад
Their s### posts are better than most channels content, and when they get serious they are top shelf.
@v.german11b
@v.german11b Год назад
@@RonOhio I said so myself. I agree! 😎
@Grasyl
@Grasyl Год назад
Nice Experiments! Can you do more test on spalling (I hope this is the correct spelling) by placing clay or ballistic gel around the plate? May to rolls of clay representing arms and a ball of clay hanging from the ceiling representing head? This would be nice.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
That's a very interesting idea!
@angelobartolomeu5679
@angelobartolomeu5679 Год назад
Some videos of amerikanski testing with ballistic dummies, the spalling got deep in skull and arteries of the neck
@winkleried
@winkleried Год назад
@@PolenarTactical Also test how well the plate carriers themself capture and trap the spalling.
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary Год назад
@@PolenarTactical It also needs to be put inside of a Plate Carrier for efficacy, PC's catch spall as well, and there really isn't a reason to be testing it outside of one aside from baseline NIJ ratings process.
@connannbarbarin3033
@connannbarbarin3033 Год назад
@@PolenarTactical What if you tape lvl3a over steel plate to trap the spalling?
@princevalencia8816
@princevalencia8816 Год назад
You guys don’t miss! This isn’t the first video I’ve seen on ballistic plates testing / comparison, but it’s def one of the best. Something about how you guys present your videos and how you conduct the activities that just click with regular/simple guys like me. 👍🏼👍🏼
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
Thank you, that's nice to hear. Good feedback :)
@scolio6585
@scolio6585 Год назад
@@PolenarTactical Just want to point out at 5:13 you've left a frame or two where you left the name unblurred and is readable.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
@@scolio6585 Thank you for letting us know, i will see if we can correct it. It was our good will to do that since they threatened us with legal action 😑
@scolio6585
@scolio6585 Год назад
@@PolenarTactical yikes, guess they don’t like free advertising that their stuff works? 😂
@princevalencia8816
@princevalencia8816 Год назад
@@scolio6585 A lot of this channel’s videos is very tongue in cheek. That’s what makes the whole Polenar crew fun to watch and not boring. The blurring and unblurring is an example.
@ramzankadyrov6035
@ramzankadyrov6035 Год назад
My wife has steel plates and I built a form and covered them with a 1/4” of epoxy. I tested it on an old steel plate I had and it swallows up the spalling great.
@eagleone5456
@eagleone5456 Год назад
Whats the weight on them?
@ramzankadyrov6035
@ramzankadyrov6035 Год назад
@@eagleone5456 they’re the proprietary 9x9 plates that go in the freeman carrier from AR500. She’s 5’2” and 120 lbs. lol. Without the epoxy the plates weighed 4.9 lbs. after epoxy they weight 6.2 lbs.
@suprtroopr1028
@suprtroopr1028 Год назад
@@ramzankadyrov6035 not a bad weight difference for good spalling catch.
@benjaminoblak528
@benjaminoblak528 Год назад
I think this is the best "study" video yet. Short funny intro, succinct commentary that gets to the point and the layout of the tests is almost clinical. Thumbs up!
@NunyaBesnas
@NunyaBesnas Год назад
Best intro I’ve see in awhile! Bravo.
@TacticalMetalhead
@TacticalMetalhead Год назад
A very important thing that was missed is "glancing shots". Ceramic will capture the round, steel will deflect. If you get hit at an upward glancing angle, that round is going to hit your neck or under-side of your head which = severe wounds if not death. I hear Polythylene is the way to go.
@joe125ful
@joe125ful Год назад
Ofcourse but how big chance is this happend if you? Most of times enemy shoot AP that can pen armor.
@TacticalMetalhead
@TacticalMetalhead Год назад
@@joe125ful Happens all the fucking time dude, and most "AP" munitions do not penetrate military-grade armor, real life isn't Tarkov. Level IV can stop 30-06 AP rounds, and modern rifles fire cartridges SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than 30-06.
@joe125ful
@joe125ful Год назад
@@TacticalMetalhead 1 Not at all under 90 angle ther is shrapnels and this problem can be easy solved when armor is in vest so put reinforced layer and done,no dealy astuff for you. 2 Also Level 4 is good but shoted to face leg/arm or from side not save your ass anyway or using 50 Cal. Also force energy can broke your ribs and do internal bleeding when ribs can broke under 200-400 Joules. Just look in 4:14 there is definitly some injuries after few shots and this can easy happend in fight.
@skullofserpent5727
@skullofserpent5727 Год назад
What impact angles are we talking about?
@lucastonoli3256
@lucastonoli3256 Год назад
@@joe125ful You're spewing so much bullshit haha. It's not even funny. 1) At that point you are close to the bulk of ceramic with twice the weight 2) That applies to any armor. And no, with good armor (like ceramic, that absorbs impact), with a good backer, you need WAY more than 400 joules to break the ribs.
@invictus3598
@invictus3598 Год назад
A great comparison of steel and ceramic ballistic plates with interesting results. Thank you for sharing!
@TheEzali
@TheEzali Год назад
(double thumbs up) Very informative and diplomatic approach to subject of steel vs composite subject! If there are more of these unbias videos it would be interesting to see what would happen with high velocity ammo and where applicable energy distribution/penertration/spall with backing/trauma-pad or assosiated soft armour fillers on appropriate PPE platforms.
@Greekmilsim
@Greekmilsim Год назад
I don't trust steel plates we consider them cheap and dangerous
@jurajlo.6969
@jurajlo.6969 Год назад
This is the type of content I like the most. TY dudes.
@petee454
@petee454 Год назад
Excellent video as always.
@steel_ops
@steel_ops Год назад
Great video and very intelligent analysis. Thanks for the mention. There is no perfect armor, every plate has it's advantages and disadvantages. We've always recommended owning as many types of armor as you can. Cheers.
@steel_ops
@steel_ops Год назад
We also just posted a new video showing our improved coating system, results were pretty impressive. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rMOsGBgeYE4.html
@rc412scaler
@rc412scaler Год назад
I bought ceramic and never looked back. If you actually go out and train you know why. Mobility is everything. My old steel plates (AR500 series A, with 6x6 side plates) with "full build-up" of anti-spall weighed just over 24lbs. My medium size Hoplite level 4 SAPIs with 6x6 side plates come in at 18.5lbs. Trust me, that 5.5lbs makes a HUGE difference. If you're a hiker, you'll understand how just mere ounces of weight make a difference. Same concept applies here. Direction changes are faster and require less energy. Getting up from prone or kneeling is faster and requires less energy. There's less momentum to contend with. Over the course of a day all of that adds up and you'll be glad you spent the extra money on ceramic plates. But I guess you can't really appreciate the difference unless you've suffered the weight of steel plates lol
@rc412scaler
@rc412scaler Год назад
Also, holy crap armor prices have gone up since I bought mine 😬 that said, get you some ar500 😭
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
I completely agree with you, if you diregard everything else even just the weight difference can justify the higher price. But i still use steel plates for training, the only instance where higher weight has some merit
@Tree457
@Tree457 Год назад
In that case wouldn’t UHMWPE be great once it actually becomes level 3+ or 4. Even then polymer is supposed to be much lighter and even be buoyant right?
@fujimi715
@fujimi715 Год назад
@@Tree457 it will never be level 4. It can't stop hardened penetrators. They put ceramic strike face over polyethylene to make it level 4. Adds some weight but it's still lighter than the standard level 4 ceramic.
@AbnormallyDisfigured
@AbnormallyDisfigured Год назад
i used to ruck with 60-80 lbs of gear for 15-16 hours a day. sounds like you need to do more weight training kid
@joaopedrobaggio4475
@joaopedrobaggio4475 Год назад
I always have watching your vídeos, keep doing this excellent work.
@EddieRiggsBF3
@EddieRiggsBF3 Год назад
Great video as always
@misiekmisuek4421
@misiekmisuek4421 Год назад
Always interesting. Ian and karl have done some "similar" tests on inrangetv as well. Your video and theirs are always instructive. I love you guys.i wish to be able to buy you a good drink soon in slovenia.
@threat2demoracy5454
@threat2demoracy5454 Год назад
Great work 👍
@25centsapop
@25centsapop Год назад
Your carrier is just as important, plus the sleeves you can get for your steel to stop spalling. Great video
@He11Raiser4Life1
@He11Raiser4Life1 Год назад
Another great video from you guys!
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
Thank you
@winkleried
@winkleried Год назад
I have mentioned this a couple of times In the comments below. What you really need to do is test steel plates inside the carrier to actually test the true danger of spalling. What I have seen, as an individual who professionally has to rate and recommend PPE for my companies client to purchase, is that ceramic plate fans/companies only show the bare steel plate being hit on video then claiming the resulting spalling will kill the wearer. Which might be true if the wearer taped the bare plates, even with the coatings, directly to their chest. In actuality the plate and the carrier are actually a system working together to protect the wearer.
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci Год назад
Correct
@burnburn645
@burnburn645 Год назад
that was my first thought as a nonprofessional. this plate needs to be in a thick suit.
@theonyxknightknightmaster3792
Yeah
@vetrix
@vetrix Год назад
Administrative results did it with full loadout, it aint pretty Id probably use it as backpack armor or makeshift ballistic shield
@marcusborderlands6177
@marcusborderlands6177 Год назад
There are tests with steel in a carrier. It's still shit. Also it's heavier, costs the same as ceramics, and has no actual real world advantages
@backinblack03
@backinblack03 Год назад
Very good presentation and extremely proud of the Greek manufacturer
@Greekmilsim
@Greekmilsim Год назад
Dude (iam greek) did you see if FN FAL penetrated it bz i was interested to buy 2 for my protection
@ChristopherSloane
@ChristopherSloane Год назад
Solid video well done!
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
Thank you
@leventduvenci4076
@leventduvenci4076 Год назад
Thank you for the information
@eljefeamericano4308
@eljefeamericano4308 Год назад
This was a great video! Thanks for giving steel plates some credit. They're a great option for people who may not have the best access to such things. Or, who may not have options to replacement plates in the future, can't store them in ideal conditions, etc.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
I think it's become very popular to hate on steel plates for some reason
@eljefeamericano4308
@eljefeamericano4308 Год назад
@@PolenarTactical I've noticed this, myself! And I think you gave them the right amount of criticism. There are valid concerns over them. But they're far from useless as body armor.
@molonlabe8126
@molonlabe8126 Год назад
Those videos are indeed interesting, thank you !
@NotTheBomb
@NotTheBomb Год назад
Still happy with my AR-600 Steel Ops plate. With a wonderful spall coating.
@jordanhorst6
@jordanhorst6 Год назад
for the fragmentation issue couldn't someone make a simple kevlar sleeve/cover to zip up around the plate?
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
Yeah, those exist, or they can be coated in a thick layer of truck bed liner or epoxy.
@noboy345
@noboy345 Год назад
Yes simple
@proudlyamerican2764
@proudlyamerican2764 Год назад
I'm wondering if a 10-15ml layer of commercial grade silicone caulk would suffice
@TheEzali
@TheEzali Год назад
A lot of complete body armour set ups both civi and milliraty use a soft amour backing/vest to catch frag/spall with plate(s) ontop to stop the main/high velocity projectiles. (e.g. the osprey PPE system) It's only in recent years due to inproved anti-spall coatings/technology, higher requirent for "modility"/change in battle docterin/manual of arms that plate carriers have become so popular. As with weapon selection, PPE selection "should" be approprate for the expected threat level , but bare in mind cost is always a big consideration, especially when you are funded by the tax payer!
@Mini-TOutdoorsMedia
@Mini-TOutdoorsMedia Год назад
@@TheEzali Soft armour behind the plate will not catch the spall coming off the plate in front of it
@billshepherd4331
@billshepherd4331 Год назад
Nice video, about what I expected from ceramic armor! I would Love to have that M76!
@mezzanoon
@mezzanoon Год назад
That ending LOOOL I appreciate the effort from him
@zowiefenderblast4602
@zowiefenderblast4602 Год назад
Great vdo! I dig all your content! Keep it creative with funny dark humor like you already do! You are one of my favorite youbee toobee channel's to check out!
@BushManDrewReviewsanstuff
@BushManDrewReviewsanstuff Год назад
Very interesting, thanks sir.
@Metaljunkie77
@Metaljunkie77 Год назад
Always good content
@EmperorShang
@EmperorShang Год назад
Thank you for caveating the shrapnel !
@Qigate
@Qigate Год назад
I love this channel... I came for the Ian interviews but I've stayed for Ziga.
@ptitlinge
@ptitlinge Год назад
Merci pour tes vidéos ❤️
@a.j.s.8049
@a.j.s.8049 Год назад
Informative 👏🏾👍🏾👊🏾
@stevenkennedy4130
@stevenkennedy4130 Год назад
Nyet! Steel is fine. Heavy, but thin too. Thanks for the share!!
@appelsapman434
@appelsapman434 Год назад
Great vid.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
Thanks
@grizzly6604
@grizzly6604 4 месяца назад
Nice. Good video.
@mrhappyface4181
@mrhappyface4181 Год назад
The box check for ricochet and spall is good, always pay attention to straight up as you noted, but also low left and right. As in toward the inside of the thighs. Same problems in those areas. As for ceramic (and to show the difference between steel), something like the test you did trying to move yourselves along on the skateboard via recoil might be helpful. The dispersion of energy between different grades of ceramic is quite substantial, and the total difference between steel and ceramic again is massive. Giving people a relative understanding of impact force beyond clay cavities can be pretty helpful, even if it seems like a gimpy way to do it.
@Gearedfilm57
@Gearedfilm57 Год назад
Great video and a lot of information! Steel and ceramic are both good just some are better in certain areas
@Nafebutuoy39
@Nafebutuoy39 Год назад
This video was super awesome and informative. In my opinion I would much rather wear either than nothing in a combat scenario.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
Thank you I agree, anything is better than nothing :)
@jeremiah7855
@jeremiah7855 Год назад
Good video thanks
@claybryon4955
@claybryon4955 Год назад
Thanks!
@Brom8Ganrok5
@Brom8Ganrok5 Год назад
that intro made me give you already a thumbs up!
@Brom8Ganrok5
@Brom8Ganrok5 Год назад
hahaaha - and the outro
@thatalaskaguy
@thatalaskaguy Год назад
Neat video!
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
Thanks
@Crangaso
@Crangaso Год назад
The power-up lever on the Mosin is a secret. . .
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
They did it with AKs and FALs in Rhodesia too.
@tlshortyshorty5810
@tlshortyshorty5810 Год назад
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 don’t forget New Zealand/Australia
@Greekmilsim
@Greekmilsim Год назад
Mosin is bolt action rifle and use stronger carthidges than 7.62NATO
@POSTMASTER_Rion-Donald_Harmon.
I actually have a nugget in a case thats been sitting in my closet for about 10 years. I hear after 15 years of sitting in a closet they can start to turn into golden nuggets. We will see....
@aetius9
@aetius9 Год назад
Love the Mosin power-up, that's immediately meme-worthy. :)
@FreemanBgTV
@FreemanBgTV Год назад
Awesome test my slav bro + I like your zastava
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
I'm glad you like it
@IspeakSnow
@IspeakSnow Год назад
Yeaaaasss polenar tactics good channel
@chanman819
@chanman819 Год назад
"Nothing is black or white" he says while standing next to a black plate and a white plate 😂
@thomaswhite518
@thomaswhite518 Год назад
Right.
@MrCantStopTheRobot
@MrCantStopTheRobot Год назад
Noticed the same thing. Very suspicious assertion from Mr. Polenar. Especially after that ceramic footage. That was VERY B&W.
@johnh4957
@johnh4957 Год назад
so what is actual weight difference on those 2 plates? I wonder if some over layer (like a wet suit -elastic) or the spall guard for steel would keep ceramic fragments captured in armor, pieces better than a void, that's why gravel,sand good barriers as long as they don't spill out
@Echo_Charlie
@Echo_Charlie Год назад
Ceramic-PE plates usually run somewhere between 6-8 lbs for LVL IV protection. Steel usually runs around 7-8lbs for LVL III protection. I've seen UHMWPE LVL III plates as light as 3 lbs. A good spall guard or a steel plate with a very good coating (like the steel ops plates) can contain a lot to all/almost all of the spall yes.
@aetius9
@aetius9 Год назад
My AR500 level III+ steel plates are 9.5 lbs each, rated up to 7.62x51 AP. My AR500 level IV ceramic plates from the same company are just under 8 lbs each. Plate carrier with the steel plates and no ammo is 19.5 lbs, and with the ceramic plates is 17.8 lbs. If you want lightweight, go polyethylene, but there are tradeoffs there as well.
@DJ-fd4qk
@DJ-fd4qk Год назад
My issued Ceradyne ESAPIs are like 5lbs each.
@thingsthatstopyoudreaming5837
very cool, very useful
@Rawr_0w0
@Rawr_0w0 Год назад
Love the cool scifi intro
@deadspyder
@deadspyder Год назад
In my experience (Afghanistan 06-07,08,2010) a hit to the plate is pretty rare most folks get hit in the head,neck,arms or shoulders. Also if you get hit more than once in the chest you're probably shot all to shit anyway.
@Greekmilsim
@Greekmilsim Год назад
It is really bz like ukraine most dead bodies died by artillery shells ,and by snipers who have shot them in eyes or directly in pasgt
@xxxm981
@xxxm981 Год назад
So there is still a case for...... PAULDRONS?
@Greekmilsim
@Greekmilsim Год назад
@Лев Лагутов usually they get shot in head ,hands ,legs
@Chiboza
@Chiboza Год назад
Also, as per Soviet Afghanistan experience, groin and legs were popular because of ricochets. When fighting in the mountains.
@Chiboza
@Chiboza Год назад
@Лев Лагутов you usually don’t see where you shooting most of the time and if you do, then even dropped soldier doesn’t means he’s out. There are not hit markers in real life. That’s why in Ukraine soldiers are get shot to cheese, double tapping, but with full mags
@guillaumelg2414
@guillaumelg2414 Год назад
Very great test video. For information, Ballistic test with 5.45 are very uncommon, and in a video of garandthumb, the bullet did not went thought a level 3a plate which is surprising. It can be useful to know these days...
@PavewayJDAM
@PavewayJDAM Год назад
Love to see more armor videos test 20" AR's with M193.
@magoid
@magoid Год назад
Paraphrasing the Riddle of Steel: "No one in this world can you trust. Not men, not plastic weapons, not ceramic vests. But this (steel), you can trust".
@ch3cksund3ad
@ch3cksund3ad Год назад
The intro was literally what steel plate people think will happen in a firefight I was one of those people, but also knew I'd probably take shots to other parts, so I at least had meds, until I got ceramics
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary Год назад
Very well done video PT crew. The key point with anything regarding Body Armor is that if you're taking hits in the plate, you're already in a VERY bad position, and are now in survival mode. You are absolutely right in saying that anti-spall coatings can make or break a Steel Plate's protection capabilities, they need to be built up to both mitigate multiple hits' spall factors as much as sustaining the longevity of the Steel-- and there are many different proprietary coatings that various manufacturers and retailers use, some perform much better than others. There are also AR550 and AR600 Steel plates on the market that hold up even a little better against AP and other rounds on the top cusp or beyond NIJ rating standards.
@winkleried
@winkleried Год назад
Most spalling should be contained by the plate carrier. Now if folks are duct taping the plates to themselves then they get what they deserve.
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary Год назад
@@winkleried As an added factor, absolutely, typical plate carriers are great at catching a lot of spall as i've seen in some consulting and testing i've done with steel plates. A Kevlar sleeve isn't a bad idea either for those really concerned (somewhat irrationally) about it.
@winkleried
@winkleried Год назад
@@DJTheMetalheadMercenary I am an Ex-Grunt that became a graduate level Occupational Health professional. As I mentioned in these comments part of my job is to evaluate occupational health PPE for my companies clients. after doing this for over a decade i have a very good BS filter when it comes to Occupational Health PPE sales rep claims . I have gotten into a couple of flame wars with Ceramic plate Fan Bois/wannabe social media influencers showing bare plates getting hit and claiming the spall would kill and them getting extremely hostile when I start asking where the video is showing what happens when the plate is in the carrier....As Ziga mentioned above there is no black and white here, which is something I am very used to professionally.
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary Год назад
@@winkleried I absolutely agree with you. Also former grunt, been doing a slew of different jobs in the sector from executive protection and defense/ paramilitary contracting to private investigation and as a consultant for physical security aspects, I also consulted with 2 Armor manufacturers and retailers in the in-house testing process of their products, the end-user insight is essential to do things right.
@lucastonoli3256
@lucastonoli3256 Год назад
@@winkleried There are test with the plate inside the carrier bag and spalling is still deadly. You're full of shit.
@YOSHIZERO
@YOSHIZERO Год назад
Thank you for doing this video. Some people certainly needed this reality check.
@ironleeFPS
@ironleeFPS Год назад
So basically, wear the composite plate over top of the steel plate, in your carrier. Done👌🏻
@Gussani
@Gussani Год назад
I understood that reference! 00:10
@Bdady74
@Bdady74 Год назад
Nice!
@dewy6644
@dewy6644 Год назад
Finally, a video not sponsored by AR500 or Spartan.
@ericconner9971
@ericconner9971 Год назад
Great video. If it’s already cold there, you guys gotta move. It’s still summer damnit.
@johnnyharperscoutstable5386
Great experiment.🐸🍺🔪🔥
@Beari91
@Beari91 Год назад
We do a science
@spinebreaker4507
@spinebreaker4507 Год назад
Thank you Polenar--Learned something new that I cant pick which one to purchase now because either way ill get unalived 😂😅
@victoreem2
@victoreem2 Год назад
Best eastern european youtube channel! 😍
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
hahaha :D
@loyaltotheend4019
@loyaltotheend4019 Год назад
Interesting!
@jmullner76
@jmullner76 Год назад
You know the video is going to be good when it starts out with Mosin Pinky.
@rungunpeppers
@rungunpeppers Год назад
Good video. We once tested plate from aliexpress, it was made from some kind of polyethylene - stopped pistols and shotguns, but deformation was bad.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
We did that also, it surprised us how well that plate held up
@rungunpeppers
@rungunpeppers Год назад
@@PolenarTactical 👍
@bgiardi
@bgiardi Год назад
You all rock!
@matthewkirk
@matthewkirk Год назад
It sounded like you said "ceramic sharts" and I chuckled.
@razmiihsan8897
@razmiihsan8897 Год назад
Just 10s into this video, I'm already laughing. 😆. Love the sword sound when he took out the gun.
@vicdiaz5180
@vicdiaz5180 Год назад
I have a carrier with 12x15 plates front and back. Hefty but durable, also serves as a boat anchor lol
@user-uk9hm7je1q
@user-uk9hm7je1q Год назад
Thx for this video: informative and highly performed as usual! It would be interesting to see the comparison between most popular Russian army armour and most popular NATO armour.
@savageinstitute9569
@savageinstitute9569 Год назад
If it isnt anti-spall put some kevlar sheets on the front face of the plate
@Chris-liwymi
@Chris-liwymi Год назад
I definitely like this style of video I just wish I could’ve seen the name of that body armor lol
@Greekmilsim
@Greekmilsim Год назад
I have a question : siamidis IV plate managed to stop 7.62 NATO or it failed ?
@alexvanderlinden6027
@alexvanderlinden6027 Год назад
love it
@trefferbild
@trefferbild Год назад
I find it interesting!
@crustyroach6921
@crustyroach6921 Год назад
I wish it was that cold in my state to see my breath atm. Awesome test though
@EVLfreak666
@EVLfreak666 Год назад
I love you guy's, don't ever change. ❤️🇺🇸
@marlenakiepinska1190
@marlenakiepinska1190 Год назад
up to 20 yrds XM193 ball (FMJ) shot from 20" will go trough lvlIII plate all day long
@xenogen
@xenogen Год назад
IV you mean
@marlenakiepinska1190
@marlenakiepinska1190 Год назад
@@xenogen tbh I haven't seen lvl IV gets done by XM193 but I saw it pass lvl III
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
@@xenogen level IV should stop it without a problem
@xenogen
@xenogen Год назад
@@PolenarTactical yes
@wojszach4443
@wojszach4443 Год назад
Good old powering up your rifle Zimbawie style
@sd5241
@sd5241 Год назад
Nikita from BSG should take notes.
@hanktorrance6855
@hanktorrance6855 Год назад
Keep it up you brimg fun to relavant issues. to me the take away is that steel plates are more reuseable than ceramic, unless you plan on duct taping it after your firefight. of course if it saved your life you probably will gladly just replace it 🙏
@universalrandomizer405
@universalrandomizer405 Год назад
Tasty intro. Felt like a 12 year old again
@pt1733
@pt1733 Год назад
Ceramic Ballistic is best plate, fight me Ziga
@espake122
@espake122 Год назад
Metal plate with anti spoling is better
@espake122
@espake122 Год назад
But ceramic is awsom to
@warrenharrison9490
@warrenharrison9490 Год назад
Shocked at the cavity in clay behind the steel plates with the larger rounds😳
@AR-GuidesAndMore
@AR-GuidesAndMore Год назад
Dont get shot is my main takeaway from this. 😅
@BoneistJ
@BoneistJ Год назад
I'd like to see some home made spall liner testing on that steel plate.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical Год назад
Anything specific that you have in mind?
@BoneistJ
@BoneistJ Год назад
@@PolenarTactical I've heard of people using truck bed liner, but I once saw someone do a video were they used layers of old cheap silk shirt between layers of liquid flex seal, but they never tested it.
@Greekmilsim
@Greekmilsim Год назад
But they can hurt you
@edux54
@edux54 Год назад
I like this
@alphawolfgang173
@alphawolfgang173 Год назад
i think steel is still fine to get as long as you have a good fragmentation coating.
@ChrisLoew
@ChrisLoew Год назад
0:09 Volley fire brilliant lolz
@jenshauer7434
@jenshauer7434 Год назад
Polenar, thank you for the video and the material comparison. It can bee seen that a development of a working and yet safe ballistic plate is a great scientific challenge. Btw what is the width of the ceramic composite plate?
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