Steelers Have Clear Leader in QB Competition 

I’m a bears fan too I can honestly say he wasn’t the problem in Chicago you put weapons around him and protect him and watch out for

Exactly. These people all talk out of their a$$es, and that includes the NFL Network, ESPN, Rich Eisen, Mike Florio, Nick Wright, etc.

Exactly. Folks are looking only at his youth and speed. Those may be good, but the negatives outweigh the positives. At least right now.

Russ’s hold times only occurred because Pete was constraining his pass attempts. If you don’t limit his attempts to below 30 P/G, Russ won’t seek the longer pass and will be more agreeable to throwaways, meaning fewer sacks and INTs. Let the man have his 37 A/G!

Russ ain’t wha he used to be tho

@@dar3al3q when are y’all gonna understand that he’s still better than fields

When you going to understand the game. With a line in Pittsburgh that doesn't have continuity, doesn't have experience and covering for a 35 year old who doesn't have the wheels of his younger days.

@@NedyahFox fields is there to be developed by the Steelers he may be better but at the end of the day justin is most likely the future qb of that team

💯

100%

Your words have been marked, and your short essay gets an F! 😂

@@DeCurtaRican Lol, you are delusional! You keep harping on Russ' career statistics when nobody is disputing that. Everybody agrees the dude was legit, back then! As of right now, he is a middle of the road quarterback, and his recent statistics back that up! The delusion comes in when you try and spin it to make us believe he's still that guy, even when the evidence doesn't support your conclusion. Now, is there a possibility he can turn his career around and become that guy again? Yes, it's possible, but history is not on his side. There's not some magical switch he can just turn on to become an instant pro bowler again! If he had the ability to do that he'd still be in Denver! Ever think of that? Several notable football analysts/commentators have stated publicly that they don't believe Russ is the player he once was. I guess they're all delusional too. Are they saying that because they all hate Russ? Of course not, they're basing their conclusions on recent performance and the eye test! And if you had half a brain you'd notice that the league has also reached the same conclusion. If that wasn't the case, Denver would not have paid him $40M to walk out the door and the Steelers would have offered him more than just a one-year contract for the league minimum! Believe it or not, Russ is now at the point in his career where his past accomplishments no longer afford him job security or any other perks that go along with a player of his stature, which means he is officially on Justin Fields level. The writing is on the wall delusion boy! Keep waving your Russ pom poms and posting a bunch of meaningless statistics from years past if you want to lol! The rest of us know better!

@@DeCurtaRican Lol, yeah you are delusional! You keep harping on Russ' career statistics when nobody is disputing that. Everybody agrees the dude was legit, back then! As of right now, he is a middle of the road quarterback, and his recent statistics back that up! The delusion comes in when you try and spin it to make us believe he's still that guy, even when the evidence doesn't support your conclusion. Now, is there a possibility he can turn his career around and become that guy again? Yes, it's possible, but history is not on his side. There's not some magical switch he can just turn on to become an instant pro bowler again! If he had the ability to do that he'd still be in Denver! Ever think of that? Several notable football analysts/commentators have stated publicly that they don't believe Russ is the player he once was. I guess they're all delusional too. Are they saying that because they all hate Russ? Of course not, they're basing their conclusions on recent performance and the eye test! And if you had half a brain you'd notice that the league has also reached the same conclusion. If that wasn't the case, Denver would not have paid him $40M to walk out the door and the Steelers would have offered him more than just a one-year contract for the league minimum! Believe it or not, Russ is now at the point in his career where his past accomplishments no longer afford him job security or any other perks that go along with a player of his stature, which means he is officially on Justin Fields level. The writing is on the wall delusion boy! Keep waving your Russ pom poms and posting a bunch of meaningless statistics from years past if you want to lol! The rest of us know better!

Yeah, Russ’s red zone efficiency was insane for list of last year, and that was with a coach who wasn’t really coaching the appropriate style.

My man say trade bait. lol. It’s a 1 year deal. He has no trade value after the season. Smdh. Just clueless

The first time JF is sacked or fumbles at the 8 will change this narrative.

Justin is not going to start week 1

???? For the overwhelming majority of his career, Russ's most successful pass combination has been to slot receivers running across the middle of the field. That play combo is likely what gets his #1 receiver, Doug Baldwin, into the Hall of Fame. Russ is the quickest QB to 300 TD passes in history. He's NEVER had a top 10 receiver, yet has more plus 30 yards TD receptions than ANY QB in NFL history. Because of the complete lack of system sanity in Denver, folks who only listen to pundits think Russ never throws over the middle, but nothing could be farther from the truth. Russ's greatest strength is the long ball down field. He' NOT a dink and dunk guy to the outside. Prior to the Denver debacle, if he rolled to the outside, his inclination was to run instead of throwing the short dink and dunk. In Denver they their to get him to dink instead of run and it was a disaster, since that's NOT his game, and predictably he sucked at it. Pittsburgh is not going to ask him to do that because it's not their mo, and they know it isn't Russ's either. Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, all of the no name Tight ends who have caught the majority of their NFL passes across the middle from Russ, laugh Everytime they hear Russ doesn't pass across the middle Russ has gotten mid receivers new contracts with other teams primarily because of their success with casting balls over the middle of the field and just about every one of those receivers failed to live up to expectations with their new teams. Name one single receiver who found success with a new team after the success they had with Russ? That dude has consistently turned mid tier receivers into starting caliber receivers, but the fact that none of em is ever any good catching ball from another QB speaks VOLUMES about Russ, and most of those mid receivers have caught a combo of the long ball and across the middle passes from Russ. Pete Carrols offense wasn't predicated on out routes.

@@Aussiesuede I stopped reading that half way through bc oh my, but Russ has been most successful on boot legs out of the pocket homie. He style is like a middle infielder throwing on the run.

@@thomasmadden7580 Russ is very good on the run, but he also throws a good ball consistentely from the pocket. When the pocket breaks down (as it often did with the #15 to # 24th rated offensive lines he played behind in Seattle, then he extends plays outside the pocke. Take a gander at Doug Balwins career highlight reel. You'll see the full Russ repertoire on display. In the pocket, outside the pocket, fades, across the middle, down the field fades, and down the middle of the field moon balls. Here is the list of starting receivers on his road to 334 TD's over 12 seasons : Golden Tate, Sidney Rice, Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse,, Tyler Lockett, Luke Wilson, Jimmy Graham, Paul Richardson, David Moore, Nick Vannett, Jaron Brown, Will Disly, DK Metcalf, Courtland Sutton, and Jerry Jeudy.. You don't have that type of sucess being one dimensional and having just one type of throw you can make landing at the #13 spot in TD's without the benefit of a Hall of Fame receiver helping your stats over the course of your career. And that's responding to your original point: "can Russ hit targets in the middle of the field and not just on the sidelines." ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--VgclFgUfn4.html

Russ can hit targets in the middle of the field. He actually has more angles than anyone outside of Mahomes. Thats the biggest misconception about Russ. He’s very deadly when throwing across the middle, but his inclination to do it has been here and there. Give him the right protection.

@@thomasmadden7580: You’re wrong. There are videos here showing Russ torching teams across the middle. In fact, one team he did it to was the Steelers in 2019. Look it up! There’s a short version of the video.

You’re comparing Flacco to Russ? That alone is a fail, and Fields isn’t LJ. Frankly, LJ wouldn’t beat out Russ in a training camp either. He’s not as good a passer as Russ. The Ravens have created and redefined the QB position to make things work for Lamar, and he is a better passer than Fields. LJ has MVPs and all of that, but if he had been Russ’s backup, he would’ve stayed a backup. Russ wouldn’t have allowed LJ to take his spot any more than he allowed Geno to do it.

@DeCurtaRican im not comparing russ to flacco at all. I'm just saying that the ravens utilized lamar skill set before he was qb1 and the steelers will do the same with Justin fields this year in my opinion. I think they use him all over the field not just in goal to go situations.

Lamar will never win anything and Fields is like Lamar only he stinks at passing.

Fields will be released after this year.

@@jimmymacnutrition6628 he’s a free agent after the season, he can’t get released, smarty pants😂

​@@vibinwithdadawgzGood point.

And the last time Russ had one in Brian Schottenheimer, he had his best years! I hate to say this, but Pete Carroll wasn’t a great coach, and without Russ he never won more than 9 games in a season in the NFL, and he only did that three times. Pete has a losing career record without Russ at QB.

Bears fan just hush. We want to hear anything you have to say concerning our team and players Thank you

What is your experience and knowledge of the game? Because your comments suggest you need to learn what wins games in the NFL. It's the trenches. Pitt O line isn't solid and will take time to gel. A 35 yr old qb will again break the record for sacks. Denver had an above avg o line and Russel got sacked at a rate of 2.5 sacks a game so what does he do with an inexperienced line. Chicago problems yes Justin holds the ball and played with a pff 43rd ranked level his one Guard was a 4th ranked rg so the Bears put that one to LG and he was 16th. His 2 tackles was 26 an 30 th ranked his LG was lazy and ranked 34th in pass pro. Wonder why Justin had problems yet 2 of his receivers had career years in Moore and Kmet. Career years in receiving don't happen with a poor qb.

@@byronscherer5098 I think Russ could get below 30 sacks this year.

​@@DeCurtaRican not to mention JF gets sacked almost as much.

Start Fields as WHAT?

@@DeCurtaRican Child Please

Couldn’t have said it better myself

Wilson is 5' 11 Fields 6'3 Wilson is 35 not 37. Wilson top 15 QB Fields bottom 5. Fields is not better than either Russell Wilson or Zach Wilson. 😂

@jimmymacnutrition6628 ok lol thanks .....ones small and old and slower ...the other is bigger stronger and faster ... both had identical seasons the last couple years....besides Chicago's awful line and no weapons like Jerry and courtland

@@jovan307 Identical seasons? 🤣 You haven't seen them play then. Wilson: 26/8 vs. 16/8 Wilson passer rating of 98 vs. 86. Passer success rate of 43 vs. 38. QBR 50 vs. 46. Game winning drives 4 vs. 1. Completion percentage 66 vs. 61. 4th quarter passer rating 103 vs. 53. Trailing with less than 4 mins to play 92 vs. 22! 4th quarter comebacks 4 vs. 1. Fields can't run or pass in the 4th which is why the Bears have won 10 games in 3 years when he starts. Nothing alike at all. Next up I compare to Zach Wilson. You must be confusing your Wilsons. 🤣

Great! Put his a$$ in at RB, but as a QB, he’s nowhere near Russ’s level.

Too bad he throws to the other team

Russ won’t struggle, and to expect Fields to take over in the more difficult portion of the season is the craziest thing I’ve ever heard.

@@DeCurtaRican that’s my point. This is what everyone keeps saying ..”if Russ struggles, Justin will take over”. Or “Justin will be the starter by the 7th or 8th games”. If people think that’s what’s going to happen, then Justin needs to be getting reps in during the first half of the season..not just being sent in down at the 10 yard line to run the ball in. That’s what other guys are getting paid to do.

And what “mid-tier” QB is that? If Russ is mid-tier, Fields isn’t even on the tier! Fields hasn’t done a single thing to demonstrate that he’s even franchise QB material. *Justin Fields’s 3-Year Career Stats (advantaged metrics in boldface* Pass attempts: 958 Pass completions: 578 Completion%: 60.3% TD-INT: 40-30 Passing yards: 6,674 Passer rating: 82.3 *Rushing yards: 2,220* (vs. 1,327) *Rushing yards/yr: 740* (vs. 442) *Rushing TDs: 14* (vs. 7) *Rushing attempts: 356* (vs. 245.5) *Rushing y/a: 6.2* (vs. 5.4) Sacks: 135 Sacks/yr: 45 Yards lost: 908 Yards lost per sack: 6.7 Fumbles: 38 (11 Lost) On pace for 152 fumbles over 12 seasons with 44 lost. Career 4th quarter passer rating: 53 _______________________________________________ *Russ’s average over a 3-year period (based on his career statistics. Advantaged metrics in boldface)* *Pass attempts: 1,416* (vs. 958) *Pass completions: 917* (vs. 578) *Completion%: 64.7%* (vs. 60.3%) *TD-INT: 84-26* (vs. 40-30) *Passing yards: 10,913* (vs. 6,674) *Passer rating: 100.0* (vs. 82.3) Rushing yards: 1,327 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 7 Rushing attempts: 245.25 Rushing Y/A: 5.4 *Sacks: 132* (vs. 135) *Sacks/yr: 44* (vs. 45) *Yards lost: 866* (vs. 908) *Yards lost per sack: 6.5* (vs. 6.7) *Fumbles: 25.75 (8 Lost)* (vs 38 w/11 lost) *Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104* (vs. 53) Fields has a slight advantage in rushing. Russ is superior in every other department. That small rushing advantage isn’t nearly enough to compensate for Russ’s superiority as a passer, especially if we discuss 4th quarter metrics. If wediscount Russ’s Denver years, Russ’s 3-year average stats would be better than Fields’s by an even larger margin, even if we include two injury years in Seattle (2016 and 2021) that produced outlier statistics. While both take a lot of sacks, Russ has taken them due to bad/inconsistent O-Lines and pure stubbornness on his part. Fields takes them more because he isn’t a great reader of defenses. His O-Lines have been better than Russ’s. _______________________________________________ *Russ’s Career Statistics* Pass attempts: 5,665 Pass completions: 3,668 Completion%: 64.7% TD-INT: 334-106 Passing yards: 43,653 Passer rating: 100.0 Rushing yards: 5,307 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 29 Rushing attempts: 981 Rushing y/a: 5.4 Sacks: 527 Sacks/yr: 43.9 Yards lost: 3,464 Yards lost per sack: 6.57 Fumbles: 103 (32 Lost) Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104 *Keep in mind that Russ’s career statistics include two subpar years in Denver.* Both years skew Russ’s stats negatively, especially 2022, when he threw just 16 TD passes and missed two games.

It is fair based on resumes? It’s no different than if Russ had already been in Pittsburgh for a year, and his performances have been superior. It’s completely fair! Fields hasn’t done a single thing to demonstrate that he’s even franchise QB material. *Justin Fields’s 3-Year Career Stats (advantaged metrics in boldface* Pass attempts: 958 Pass completions: 578 Completion%: 60.3% TD-INT: 40-30 Passing yards: 6,674 Passer rating: 82.3 *Rushing yards: 2,220* (vs. 1,327) *Rushing yards/yr: 740* (vs. 442) *Rushing TDs: 14* (vs. 7) *Rushing attempts: 356* (vs. 245.5) *Rushing y/a: 6.2* (vs. 5.4) Sacks: 135 Sacks/yr: 45 Yards lost: 908 Yards lost per sack: 6.7 Fumbles: 38 (11 Lost) On pace for 152 fumbles over 12 seasons with 44 lost. Career 4th quarter passer rating: 53 _______________________________________________ *Russ’s average over a 3-year period (based on his career statistics. Advantaged metrics in boldface)* *Pass attempts: 1,416* (vs. 958) *Pass completions: 917* (vs. 578) *Completion%: 64.7%* (vs. 60.3%) *TD-INT: 84-26* (vs. 40-30) *Passing yards: 10,913* (vs. 6,674) *Passer rating: 100.0* (vs. 82.3) Rushing yards: 1,327 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 7 Rushing attempts: 245.25 Rushing Y/A: 5.4 *Sacks: 132* (vs. 135) *Sacks/yr: 44* (vs. 45) *Yards lost: 866* (vs. 908) *Yards lost per sack: 6.5* (vs. 6.7) *Fumbles: 25.75 (8 Lost)* (vs 38 w/11 lost) *Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104* (vs. 53) Fields has a slight advantage in rushing. Russ is superior in every other department. That small rushing advantage isn’t nearly enough to compensate for Russ’s superiority as a passer, especially if we discuss 4th quarter metrics. If wediscount Russ’s Denver years, Russ’s 3-year average stats would be better than Fields’s by an even larger margin, even if we include two injury years in Seattle (2016 and 2021) that produced outlier statistics. While both take a lot of sacks, Russ has taken them due to bad/inconsistent O-Lines and pure stubbornness on his part. Fields takes them more because he isn’t a great reader of defenses. His O-Lines have been better than Russ’s. _______________________________________________ *Russ’s Career Statistics* Pass attempts: 5,665 Pass completions: 3,668 Completion%: 64.7% TD-INT: 334-106 Passing yards: 43,653 Passer rating: 100.0 Rushing yards: 5,307 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 29 Rushing attempts: 981 Rushing y/a: 5.4 Sacks: 527 Sacks/yr: 43.9 Yards lost: 3,464 Yards lost per sack: 6.57 Fumbles: 103 (32 Lost) Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104 *Keep in mind that Russ’s career statistics include two subpar years in Denver.* Both years skew Russ’s stats negatively, especially 2022, when he threw just 16 TD passes and missed two games.

Btw, what evidence can you offer that Russ is washed? I don’t see any! To the contrary, there’s some legit evidence that he can still be elite if things go as planned in Pittsburgh this year. Look at what he achieved with a coach who was trying to lose games!

Btw, would you then say you would start fields over Aaron Rodgers? There’s much more evidence that he is washed than there used to be that Russ is washed. Russ isn’t washed at all, Denver was!

Steelers want to see if the young guy can learn from a Super Bowl winner.

There’s always a theoretical competition, and frankly I think Russ WANTS one, knowing his makeup. He was so excited when they traded for Fields because he has been trying to mentor Fields for 6-7 years! That’s right! Russ has had Fields under his wing for several years going back to his days at Ohio State.

@DeCurtaRican "been trying to mentor" .. "had under his wing". I shouldn't even be responding to someone remixing information. At any rate. Yea...hope there is an actual competition...bc so many are scared and only want a "theoretical" competition it seems. Like sheesh. Ya definitely scared Russ looses that.

You're wrong. The Broncos are NOT paying Russ NOT to be on their team. They're paying him $38M because an injury to Russ in 2024, absent a deferment of his injury guarantee, would potentially cost them $100M for a single season. The Broncos wanted to keep Russ for 2024, so they asked him to defer his injury guarantee for one season. Russ, wanting out of Denver after two years of pure h3ll, wisely refused! Educate yourself and quit parroting what you hear uninformed analysts say on television. They often know no more than the average casual fan does, and it shows.

There is NOTHING about Fields that is better than Russ other than his youth (and Russ still looks about 29 out there), and in most areas, he is sorely lacking by comparison. Russ is superior to Fields in just about every way you can be superior to another QB. Do you want to see some exciting runs that do nothing for the team, or do you want the Steelers to have a legit shot at the Super Bowl? The other players know what happened with Russ in Denver, and almost no player in the league (coaches and GMs either) buys this Russ is washed narrative. The Steelers knew it, which is why they sneaked in before free agency even began and got the QB they wanted! They knew Fields was available. He wasn't their target, Russ was. Fields wanted to go to Pittsburgh BEFORE Russ signed, when he thought the competition was Kenny Pickett, but the Bears wanted nothing to do with that trade, even if the Steelers had given them what they had been seeking from other teams, which was a #2 or #3. The Steelers only became an attractive trade partner for the Bears' front office AFTER Russ signed with the Steelers. You need to ask yourself why, and why they dropped the price for the Steelers vs. the prices they were asking from other teams. The Bears sent Fields to the Steelers to try to bury him on the bench for at least a year. This was all about preventing the noise that would potentially come if Fields miraculously had gone to the Falcons or Raiders, wound up the starter, and somehow played well for the first few games while Caleb struggled. The Bears front office didn't need the noise of fans and players second-guessing them. The best strategy was to bury him behind a proven QB they knew he wouldn't start over, and that was Russ.

How is he going to do that when Russ is balling out against the team’s toughest opponents? Russ plays his BEST football against better QBs and teams, so if the Steelers win 6 or 7 of their first 9 games - which they will - the NFL is in trouble.

Fields hasn’t done a single thing to demonstrate that he’s even franchise QB material. *Justin Fields’s 3-Year Career Stats (advantaged metrics in boldface* Pass attempts: 958 Pass completions: 578 Completion%: 60.3% TD-INT: 40-30 Passing yards: 6,674 Passer rating: 82.3 *Rushing yards: 2,220* (vs. 1,327) *Rushing yards/yr: 740* (vs. 442) *Rushing TDs: 14* (vs. 7) *Rushing attempts: 356* (vs. 245.5) *Rushing y/a: 6.2* (vs. 5.4) Sacks: 135 Sacks/yr: 45 Yards lost: 908 Yards lost per sack: 6.7 Fumbles: 38 (11 Lost) On pace for 152 fumbles over 12 seasons with 44 lost. Career 4th quarter passer rating: 53 _______________________________________________ *Russ’s average over a 3-year period (based on his career statistics. Advantaged metrics in boldface)* *Pass attempts: 1,416* (vs. 958) *Pass completions: 917* (vs. 578) *Completion%: 64.7%* (vs. 60.3%) *TD-INT: 84-26* (vs. 40-30) *Passing yards: 10,913* (vs. 6,674) *Passer rating: 100.0* (vs. 82.3) Rushing yards: 1,327 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 7 Rushing attempts: 245.25 Rushing Y/A: 5.4 *Sacks: 132* (vs. 135) *Sacks/yr: 44* (vs. 45) *Yards lost: 866* (vs. 908) *Yards lost per sack: 6.5* (vs. 6.7) *Fumbles: 25.75 (8 Lost)* (vs 38 w/11 lost) *Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104* (vs. 53) Fields has a slight advantage in rushing. Russ is superior in every other department. That small rushing advantage isn’t nearly enough to compensate for Russ’s superiority as a passer, especially if we discuss 4th quarter metrics. If wediscount Russ’s Denver years, Russ’s 3-year average stats would be better than Fields’s by an even larger margin, even if we include two injury years in Seattle (2016 and 2021) that produced outlier statistics. While both take a lot of sacks, Russ has taken them due to bad/inconsistent O-Lines and pure stubbornness on his part. Fields takes them more because he isn’t a great reader of defenses. His O-Lines have been better than Russ’s. _______________________________________________ *Russ’s Career Statistics* Pass attempts: 5,665 Pass completions: 3,668 Completion%: 64.7% TD-INT: 334-106 Passing yards: 43,653 Passer rating: 100.0 Rushing yards: 5,307 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 29 Rushing attempts: 981 Rushing y/a: 5.4 Sacks: 527 Sacks/yr: 43.9 Yards lost: 3,464 Yards lost per sack: 6.57 Fumbles: 103 (32 Lost) Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104 *Keep in mind that Russ’s career statistics include two subpar years in Denver.* Both years skew Russ’s stats negatively, especially 2022, when he threw just 16 TD passes and missed two games.

​@@DeCurtaRicanyou meant like he did in denver?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@@DeCurtaRican If they win 7 of 9 it'll be because they benched Russ and started Fields lol!!!

Really? You’re going draft position? Russ has broken numerous records and is one of the winningest QBs ever for a reason too. What has Justin Fields done? Did he do any of the things Russ did on his first three seasons? Russ went in the 3rd solely because of his height and a lot of ignorance! He’s still the most efficient QB on NCAA history. In every mock redraft, Russ goes #1 or #2 overall. And at this point, he should be #1 in every mock redraft, because Andrew Luck didn’t have Russ’s career. Besides, Brady and test went in the 6th and 7th. I’d Fields better than they are too? What a lazy argument! Good thing you’re not running a team. Fields hasn’t done a single thing to demonstrate that he’s even franchise QB material. *Justin Fields’s 3-Year Career Stats (advantaged metrics in boldface* Pass attempts: 958 Pass completions: 578 Completion%: 60.3% TD-INT: 40-30 Passing yards: 6,674 Passer rating: 82.3 *Rushing yards: 2,220* (vs. 1,327) *Rushing yards/yr: 740* (vs. 442) *Rushing TDs: 14* (vs. 7) *Rushing attempts: 356* (vs. 245.5) *Rushing y/a: 6.2* (vs. 5.4) Sacks: 135 Sacks/yr: 45 Yards lost: 908 Yards lost per sack: 6.7 Fumbles: 38 (11 Lost) On pace for 152 fumbles over 12 seasons with 44 lost. Career 4th quarter passer rating: 53 _______________________________________________ *Russ’s average over a 3-year period (based on his career statistics. Advantaged metrics in boldface)* *Pass attempts: 1,416* (vs. 958) *Pass completions: 917* (vs. 578) *Completion%: 64.7%* (vs. 60.3%) *TD-INT: 84-26* (vs. 40-30) *Passing yards: 10,913* (vs. 6,674) *Passer rating: 100.0* (vs. 82.3) Rushing yards: 1,327 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 7 Rushing attempts: 245.25 Rushing Y/A: 5.4 *Sacks: 132* (vs. 135) *Sacks/yr: 44* (vs. 45) *Yards lost: 866* (vs. 908) *Yards lost per sack: 6.5* (vs. 6.7) *Fumbles: 25.75 (8 Lost)* (vs 38 w/11 lost) *Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104* (vs. 53) Fields has a slight advantage in rushing. Russ is superior in every other department. That small rushing advantage isn’t nearly enough to compensate for Russ’s superiority as a passer, especially if we discuss 4th quarter metrics. If wediscount Russ’s Denver years, Russ’s 3-year average stats would be better than Fields’s by an even larger margin, even if we include two injury years in Seattle (2016 and 2021) that produced outlier statistics. While both take a lot of sacks, Russ has taken them due to bad/inconsistent O-Lines and pure stubbornness on his part. Fields takes them more because he isn’t a great reader of defenses. His O-Lines have been better than Russ’s. _______________________________________________ *Russ’s Career Statistics* Pass attempts: 5,665 Pass completions: 3,668 Completion%: 64.7% TD-INT: 334-106 Passing yards: 43,653 Passer rating: 100.0 Rushing yards: 5,307 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 29 Rushing attempts: 981 Rushing y/a: 5.4 Sacks: 527 Sacks/yr: 43.9 Yards lost: 3,464 Yards lost per sack: 6.57 Fumbles: 103 (32 Lost) Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104 *Keep in mind that Russ’s career statistics include two subpar years in Denver.* Both years skew Russ’s stats negatively, especially 2022, when he threw just 16 TD passes and missed two games.

Russ is way better than Justin. It’s not even close! Fields hasn’t done a single thing to demonstrate that he’s even franchise QB material. *Justin Fields’s 3-Year Career Stats (advantaged metrics in boldface* Pass attempts: 958 Pass completions: 578 Completion%: 60.3% TD-INT: 40-30 Passing yards: 6,674 Passer rating: 82.3 *Rushing yards: 2,220* (vs. 1,327) *Rushing yards/yr: 740* (vs. 442) *Rushing TDs: 14* (vs. 7) *Rushing attempts: 356* (vs. 245.5) *Rushing y/a: 6.2* (vs. 5.4) Sacks: 135 Sacks/yr: 45 Yards lost: 908 Yards lost per sack: 6.7 Fumbles: 38 (11 Lost) On pace for 152 fumbles over 12 seasons with 44 lost. Career 4th quarter passer rating: 53 _______________________________________________ *Russ’s average over a 3-year period (based on his career statistics. Advantaged metrics in boldface)* *Pass attempts: 1,416* (vs. 958) *Pass completions: 917* (vs. 578) *Completion%: 64.7%* (vs. 60.3%) *TD-INT: 84-26* (vs. 40-30) *Passing yards: 10,913* (vs. 6,674) *Passer rating: 100.0* (vs. 82.3) Rushing yards: 1,327 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 7 Rushing attempts: 245.25 Rushing Y/A: 5.4 *Sacks: 132* (vs. 135) *Sacks/yr: 44* (vs. 45) *Yards lost: 866* (vs. 908) *Yards lost per sack: 6.5* (vs. 6.7) *Fumbles: 25.75 (8 Lost)* (vs 38 w/11 lost) *Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104* (vs. 53) Fields has a slight advantage in rushing. Russ is superior in every other department. That small rushing advantage isn’t nearly enough to compensate for Russ’s superiority as a passer, especially if we discuss 4th quarter metrics. If wediscount Russ’s Denver years, Russ’s 3-year average stats would be better than Fields’s by an even larger margin, even if we include two injury years in Seattle (2016 and 2021) that produced outlier statistics. While both take a lot of sacks, Russ has taken them due to bad/inconsistent O-Lines and pure stubbornness on his part. Fields takes them more because he isn’t a great reader of defenses. His O-Lines have been better than Russ’s. _______________________________________________ *Russ’s Career Statistics* Pass attempts: 5,665 Pass completions: 3,668 Completion%: 64.7% TD-INT: 334-106 Passing yards: 43,653 Passer rating: 100.0 Rushing yards: 5,307 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 29 Rushing attempts: 981 Rushing y/a: 5.4 Sacks: 527 Sacks/yr: 43.9 Yards lost: 3,464 Yards lost per sack: 6.57 Fumbles: 103 (32 Lost) Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104 *Keep in mind that Russ’s career statistics include two subpar years in Denver.* Both years skew Russ’s stats negatively, especially 2022, when he threw just 16 TD passes and missed two games.

If Justin was in that same situation I'm sure it would be similar situation...look at the bs he had to deal with in Chicago no line no weapon ...a DC as a head coach...I think russ started a little better off then ending up in that Chicago just has ....that's the perk of goin in the 3rd

And those numbers are from what 15 years ago

Hopefully,I looked at his bears 🐻 highlights and he didn't look good.Thats why they wanted to get rid of him.

@@hsny76h4l9 I was a Bear fan. I live in Chicago. I’m telling you Fields is the one. A lot of his low lights were from the beginning of the season when Getsy had the bright idea to line him up in shotgun with his wrong foot back. It threw off his timing. He had us in every game he played. Made throw after throw. Management didn’t put him in the best position. He will be a great Steeler if given the opportunity.

Yeah

Bad wording. Russ is the more reliable option. That doesn’t mean he won’t be dynamic. Russ is still one helluva runner himself (350 yards last season on mostly non-designed runs). Russ is certainly the superior passer, and it’s doubtful that Fields will ever be as good as a passer as Russ is. Russ is more dynamic and can complete more types of passes, processes faster, is much more efficient, takes better care of the rock, etc. You people need to get the Lamar Jackson visions out of your heads. Fields ain’t LJ, and even if he were, what has LJ done? Neither LJ nor Josh Allen will never win Super Bowls. It sounds like many Steelers fans are looking to be dazzled instead of win Super Bowls!

@@12egaines: I’m glad to see that so many of Fields’s relatives are on these boards. So Fields is the one, huh? Fields hasn’t done a single thing to demonstrate that he’s even franchise QB material. *Justin Fields’s 3-Year Career Stats (advantaged metrics in boldface* Pass attempts: 958 Pass completions: 578 Completion%: 60.3% TD-INT: 40-30 Passing yards: 6,674 Passer rating: 82.3 *Rushing yards: 2,220* (vs. 1,327) *Rushing yards/yr: 740* (vs. 442) *Rushing TDs: 14* (vs. 7) *Rushing attempts: 356* (vs. 245.5) *Rushing y/a: 6.2* (vs. 5.4) Sacks: 135 Sacks/yr: 45 Yards lost: 908 Yards lost per sack: 6.7 Fumbles: 38 (11 Lost) On pace for 152 fumbles over 12 seasons with 44 lost. Career 4th quarter passer rating: 53 _______________________________________________ *Russ’s average over a 3-year period (based on his career statistics. Advantaged metrics in boldface)* *Pass attempts: 1,416* (vs. 958) *Pass completions: 917* (vs. 578) *Completion%: 64.7%* (vs. 60.3%) *TD-INT: 84-26* (vs. 40-30) *Passing yards: 10,913* (vs. 6,674) *Passer rating: 100.0* (vs. 82.3) Rushing yards: 1,327 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 7 Rushing attempts: 245.25 Rushing Y/A: 5.4 *Sacks: 132* (vs. 135) *Sacks/yr: 44* (vs. 45) *Yards lost: 866* (vs. 908) *Yards lost per sack: 6.5* (vs. 6.7) *Fumbles: 25.75 (8 Lost)* (vs 38 w/11 lost) *Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104* (vs. 53) Fields has a slight advantage in rushing. Russ is superior in every other department. That small rushing advantage isn’t nearly enough to compensate for Russ’s superiority as a passer, especially if we discuss 4th quarter metrics. If wediscount Russ’s Denver years, Russ’s 3-year average stats would be better than Fields’s by an even larger margin, even if we include two injury years in Seattle (2016 and 2021) that produced outlier statistics. While both take a lot of sacks, Russ has taken them due to bad/inconsistent O-Lines and pure stubbornness on his part. Fields takes them more because he isn’t a great reader of defenses. His O-Lines have been better than Russ’s. _______________________________________________ *Russ’s Career Statistics* Pass attempts: 5,665 Pass completions: 3,668 Completion%: 64.7% TD-INT: 334-106 Passing yards: 43,653 Passer rating: 100.0 Rushing yards: 5,307 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 29 Rushing attempts: 981 Rushing y/a: 5.4 Sacks: 527 Sacks/yr: 43.9 Yards lost: 3,464 Yards lost per sack: 6.57 Fumbles: 103 (32 Lost) Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104 *Keep in mind that Russ’s career statistics include two subpar years in Denver.* Both years skew Russ’s stats negatively, especially 2022, when he threw just 16 TD passes and missed two games. But, as you say, Fields is the one…😂

Straight disconnect.

Yeah