Part 2: This job can be done with the engine still in the car. But to give you a better view, and to more easily complete other work I had to do, I raised the car off the engine and transmission.
I know this video was posted 5 years ago, and I'd usually shy away from replacing a timing chain, but I appreciate your thoroughness in what each part is, how to overcome specific obstacles and explaining what you've got to torque it to. Every RU-vid tutorial video should follow your guidelines.
@j.2391 due to labor costs prob around 600-1000(according to google) also depending apon the year and labor cost the tech charges 🤷♂️ even when I see the timing chain itself being around 100$ online
This is absolutely one of the best repair overview videos that I have seen. It was to the point, lighting & audio were great but most importantly covered the particulars. Keep up the great work!
People like you are amazingly generous. Educating people takes time and patience and for that you are a hero. I'd be tempted to buy vehicles with this engine and fix them for a profit if this will be a common issue.
I wanna know if the timing chain goes on these engines, will it have bent valves or not. Every video I've watched says nothing about the valves may have contacted the piston when the timing chain goes bad.
It is an interference engine. While the level of severity may vary from mild to catastrophic, all failures will lead to some degree of valve to piston contact.
Thank you all very much for the positive feedback! This is the first video I have ever "voiced over" and I think it was a big success. It allowed me to focus on the work while filming the repairs, then focus on my narration when I recorded the voice over. I'll most likely create many more videos this way. Thanks again!!!
I think you are great for procedure videos. Also wondering shorcuts and minimal disasembly, Wondering how many other would love to get this videos to work daily on a fleet or even at the dealership where this isuses repeat all over the place and an optimized procedure to cut costs in mandatory. You should handle this vids t your work to help technicians. Great value and sure you will wonder way to save labour hours and money. EDIT: losts of misspellings
At how many miles did you chance it at?? I had a water pump leak and because of it leaking i ended up changing my pump and timing chain at 145k on my 2011 malibu LT.
replaced the timing chain on my 2011 malibu in november. in early February, car brought up p0016/p0017 code. then a couple of days later, the car refused to start. took it to the shop and was told that there's no compression in the cylinders. is there a way to fix it that doesn't involve changing the engine
Excellent video. Thanks for going to the trouble of dropping the engine so that viewers could see what you were doing. One suggestion to those who may have to replace an Ecotec timing chain - the torque values for the 10 mm bolts on Ecotec engines are typically 89 inch/pounds (verify for your engine) - any thing higher than the factory spec has a tendency to strip the threads. Inch/pound torque wrenches for home mechanics are relatively inexpensive (about $40), and relying on feel rather than precise torque values can be an invitation to disaster for DIYers who do not work on these engines every day. Another point - if the valve timing is not set perfectly, you will get more codes and will have to go back into the engine to get the timing right. Eric O. at the South Main Auto channel did a 5 part series on a very similar 4 cylinder Chevy Colorado engine with timing issues and phaser problems; it is a long series but his conclusion after a lot of work on that engine was that there is little to no room for valve timing errors in these types of GM engines. Again, thanks for one of the best videos on doing this job that I have ever seen - it is a masterpiece.
This video was very helpful, I have a friend who has a 2012 Captiva Sport 2.4L, which was running rough and making an upper engine clattering sound. I took the valve cover off. To find that the upper guide was missing it's plastic piece and the metal was cracked. Along with the chain being very loose. I decided to replace both guides and the tensioner. I did have to set the timing again (It was way off.) And pull off the oil pan to get the plastic pieces out. The engine runs very well and only had 80,000 miles on it. Thanks so much for the video, I couldn't have done it without it.
Just did this job using your tutorial. It helped immensely. Purchased all my parts from Rock Auto online except for the torque to yield cam sprocket bolts. Those I bought at the Chevy dealership. I left the engine in place when doing this job. That made it difficult removing one of the timing chain cover bolts(an extra long one) and one of the motor mount bolts. Both of these bolts will hit the fender wheel well until you lower and raise the motor using a bar for leverage. Put everything back together again and it’s running great. Thanks for the great video!
Damn like a boss I’m going to rewatch and re watch and rewatch,, I work at gm just started, and they gave me a piston replacement and timing chain job on a terrain like the 2nd day of work, I’m not a seasoned technician but the boost of confidence from watching you do this makes me excited for work tomorrow, keep kicking ass!
Wow! Thanks a lot. I couldn't understand from other video on RU-vid what they meant by an additional 100 degrees. You're a good instructor. Thanks again. Big fan now.
Not only technically proficient but clear and expertly explained and demonstrated each step. How tech videos should be done. I'll echo another comment by saying thank you for being so generous with sharing your knowledge.
Thanks a lot bud, very helpful video i just tackled this job and patience was key i must of watch your video 20 times at least so virtually you were there one step at a time lol!!!
@@justinjustin337 hi there, yeah I took my sweet time almost 3 weeks spent about 700$ on parts and tools thermostat and water pump replaced as well I’m not a mechanic but I was up for the challenge I wanted to make sure i was dead on 👍
Thank You so much for providing a much better and indepth video on how to do this. I need to do this on my 2011 buick regal with the same engine in it. The slack in the chain on my vehicle is not as bad as this one witch is impressive cause I have 140k miles on mine. All the other videos I have seen don't give you direction on setting the timing. Earned a subscribtion from me sir.
best repair video I have ever seen. I will do this same job on a 2010 with 79K miles this next fall or winter. I don't work on vehicles during the AZ summers. It will stay parked until then. Excellent instructional video!!
Although, I didn't hear him mention about TDC Piston 1 for exhaust stroke for LE5 engine after 2008. No mention of compression stroke TDC or exhaust stroke TDC differences for years. Very important to know if you set it on exhaust or compression tdc. Also, medium loctite any timing component bolts, the new ones come with blue dealer-tite.
Just did this job on my 2011 Equinox. Replaced the timing chain and sprockets should have done the balance chain . The job was actually pretty easy even in the car. Thanks for you video it made the jobs easy. The timing chain guide was broken in three and the chain was so slack it was starting to wear on valve cover. The engine runs great now(as good as it can) hopefully I'll get a few years out of this repair.
Respect! Never saw a video explained that well ! And I saw and participated to A LOT of lessons or videos . I'm an Caterpillar engineer. Watching this kind of videos because I bought a crap Equinox.....I'm sorry for that!😢
Great video! Some pointer for doing it without dropping the subframe. Remove your left (looking at the vehicle) engine Mount and take the bolt out of your front engine Mount. This will allow you to jack the engine up and lower it to access some of the bolts from under your wheel well. Make sure to buy extra phaser bolts. Those are the 10mm head bolts used to hold the chain guides. It is the black bolts with spacers. Have you x2 crank bolts as well. These are the 18mm head bolts. These bolts don’t come with cheaper timing kits. Holding the cams: I cut my old chain in half and used that around the crank sprockets to hold them and then vide gripped the chain to the car frame at the front. The helped keep the valves from opening while I loosen the crank bolts. It takes a specialised tool otherwise. It is not a rentable tool from Oreilies.
you did a great job with the video.. but I did have to watch another video to make sure I wasn’t losing my mind.. you said tdc on the compression stroke… I couldn’t find the marks… it’s actually done on the exhaust stroke.. I hope you don’t find this rude.. just thought I would throw it out there.. Thanku for making videos it makes our lives so much easier!
Just to clarify everyone, the engine does not need to be removed. Idk if this guy mentioned that or not. These engines are decent other than timing chain issues but it’s not a big deal to do . No timing chain will last forever
Thanks for the video informative straight to the point takes a job not easily known and makes it fairly easy to do with your guidance. I thank you for your good videos sir
Just did this job today and wouldn’t have completed without this video thanks! For anyone wondering the plug is a 10mm hex and the tensioner can be removed and torqued with a 32mm socket! Thanks again!
@@MatthewLeathers5 no I believe I just used a jack underneath with wood and unbolted that side of the engine mount and just went up and down as needed with the jack under the engine
This was an awesome step by step video. Did this work on my sisters 13 Equinox 2.4l . I did it with the motor still in vehicle. Same thing though. Thank you for the great video.
with the motor still in the vehicle, do you have to remove the entire motor mount as shown? Do you put a jack under the motor in this situation? Could you get by just removing that bottom motor mount bolt?? thanks for any assistance!
Moral of the story; Change your oil often (5k-7k), with the correct oil composition (5w30 DexOs). Your pockets will thank you. P.S. : Dont forget the transmission oil. It needs changed too. Preventative maintenance is the best maintenance.
I agree.. i race these ecotecs the 2.2 (basically the same). And never had an issue. They are pretty quick and with me changing the oil every couple races it was still going strong till my dad raced it smacked a wall and broke tranny and block lol
My Mother has a 2011 Malibu. I change her oil for her and use M1. I take it to the dealer for a trans flush every 30k. Car has 130k miles now and it's not a bad car. Dipstick always reads low oil level but when I change the oil 5 quarts comes out. Had to change her headlights this weekend.... Not happy. What a pain in the ass.
@@cordiepowell3046 I really hope that's the case with my wife's 2015 equinox. I change the oil every 3k weith mobil 1 dexos and the filter every 6k. also mobil 1 or Wix. did the trans service at 50k and now at 62k miles I noticed the passenger side axle seal as well as the trans cooler lines are leaking at the radiator. hopefully it can be done under warranty.. ps I do the oil so often because it seems these engines are very hard on oil.
Any advice you could give to those of us who own a newer (2014-2016)2.4 ecotec engine? Ive got 25k on mine so far with no problems yet. I change my own oil every 4-5k miles with synthetic (pennzoil platinum, quaker state ultimate.) Next change im going to Amsoil!
David hi - do u have to drop out engine like done here? Or can do with car on ground? How long does this take? And if doing chain and tensioner - should replace with new cam phasers and water pump too? And please could give approx cost for doing this job?
Thanks man. Truthfully that is a lot more than I want to do in my basic garage. That is not outside my skill set but I really don't want to do it. I'll pay somebody for that one.
Where GM has failed so many of us, you have taken the time to help. Cheers, friend! 2nd time I'm replacing timing components because that stupid front timing guide has broken. What a terrible design.
Very good video. Only issue I have is after installing all new timing components is when i turn the engine over by hand the cam sprockets are making a clicking/popping sound as a turn the engine a full revolution. The sound is definitely coming from the camshafts /sprockets..
are you replacing the new guide with the same stock part that will ALSO fail in time , do they make a better replacement part or are you just replacing it with the same junk . does some one make a better part that addresses the problem ?
Thanks for the video, great job. Question on gaskets and seals in what needed to be replaced for this job? Valve cover gasket, Front cover gasket, and crank seal? Anything else?
Awesome video, very clear and concise! A friend owns a Captiva and complained about a rattling noise at idle in drive or reverse, or air conditioner kicking in (under load basically) but only when the car was running for a while. I dismissed any accessories pulleys by running the engine without the belt, the noise was still there. I inspected the upper timing chain guide, and chain tension when the engine was cold, everything seemed fine (no broken timing chain guide "ear" on the right-hand side of the chain as commonly mentioned). Then I ran the engine until it reached operating temperature, pulled the rocker cover back off and the chain had now slack to it so my conclusion was a bad chain tensioner. So my question is, is the tensioner fully mechanical or is it affected by oil and oil pressure ? Thank you for your time.
Not sure why mitchell explains timing is set cyl 1 tdc on exhaust. Not compression. Per 2010-2011 le5 and le9 engine. But camshaft marks never line up tdc exhaust.
excellent video. in the middle of this job on a '13 Captiva 2.4. on mine, the VVT sprockets are the same part number. the intake is seized and the exhaust rotates and returns as i assume it should. waiting on parts. wouldnt have attempted it without this video
Excellent video. Thanks for going to the trouble of dropping the engine so that viewers could see what you were doing. One suggestion to those who may have to replace an Ecotec timing chain - the torque values for the 10 mm bolts on Ecotec engines are typically 89 inch/pounds (verify for your engine) - any thing higher than the factory spec has a tendency to strip the threads. Inch/pound torque wrenches for home mechanics are relatively inexpensive (about $40), and relying on feel rather than precise torque values can be an invitation to disaster for DIYers who do not work on these engines every day. Another point - if the valve timing is not set perfectly, you will get more codes and will have to go back into the engine to get the timing right. Eric O. at the South Main Auto channel did a 5 part series on a 4 cylinder Chevy Colorado engine with timing issues and phaser problems; it is a long series but his conclusion after a lot of work on that engine was that there is little to no room for valve timing errors in these types of GM engines. Again, thanks for one of the best videos on doing this job that I have ever seen - it is a masterpiece.
you can cut the top of the gasket were it goes behind the motor mount and dont even have to take the motor mount loose, the one i am doing now took out the head so in my case all but one bolt on the mount had to come out. lol all the valves are bent all but 2 rockers broke head it cracked on the intake camshaft holder. Will it run-----of course,,,
I got a question if your still active. I’m doing the timing chain on my car. When I pulled the valve cover off the timing chain fell apart and dropped to the bottom. It’s didn’t damage the case it just damaged a couple guide bolts. But with the chain not being attached to the cam gears. Is their a certain position the cams have to be in to properly time the motor?
Hi Daniel. Great video! I have a 2012 malibu with same issue. Is there a need to change out the intake and exhaust cam sprockets? I noticed you didn't. Also the timing chain kits don't come with them.
