Stephen A. and Max react to James Harden winning MVP: Is he a top 5 NBA player? | First Take | ESPN 

lol Not true. Steph tries but he’s just weak. Watch some basketball. Not a Warriors fan but if you watch him play you’d see this to be the case.

Rishab Prakash That's what he said. Steph lacks the athleticism to be a great defender.

Brykewl I was replying to the dude named lol

Harden played defense in the wcf Also there is a guy named Chris Paul who is smaller than steph and plays defense

1mfilms True

This, along with all his other retarded takes, is y I dont respect him.

Zakariya Hussain funny how u saying this and Kawhi just choked the 3-1 lead to the nuggets and shot less than 40% from the field💀

yes it did

YA IT DID

MVP MVP Facts.

MVP MVP and

It’s a regular season award. The votes are tallied before playoffs even start

Yo if you’re a D Rose fan then you should check out the highlight/tribute movie I just put up on my channel!

But look whos on his team. Take KD and Dramond off and see what happens. Curry is only good in that system. I would take Harden, and Gianious over Curry all day. Curry has never and will never win a finals MVP. KD is by far the best player on that team.

Gigi Thorgersen Nah gortat got robbed

Gigi Thorgersen next year

I think you mean JR.

Agreed. The shaqtin mvp carried again 🐍's ass

Gregory Hayes J.r still prepares for the game 5. Don't distract him lol

norman koffii kawhi ain’t better than KD

Razor58 when healthy Even MJ thinks he is the best in the league......

Hubs Drunk but better than anyone in the world

No, Steph Curry is the best in the world. Period. Count the rings bitch. They're tied, only difference is Steph and the Dubs are just getting started. 3-1 vs. 3-6. Sit your ass down.

Hubs Drunk Curry definitely ain’t better than LeBron ur on crack

rodrigao Facts.

But if you're only going off of points especially ppg then Kobe Bryant has had his MVP stolen at least 5 times. He lost one year and had a ppg avg of 35 lmbo it's clearly about more than just stats it's about ONE person ability to be the most valuable for the team and situation that player is in during ONLY the regular season. Which is why players like Steve Nash can win MVP because he was more valuable to the Suns than Kobe was to the Lakers during that season. But in no way shape or form is Steve a better player than Kobe is or was. It's not the best player in the league award. It's the MOST VALUABLE, so considering the Suns would go from playoff capable to absolutely nothing if you just removed one Steve Nash he won; because, although the Lakers would be drastically less great without Kobe if you removed just him from the team that year, they wouldn't have gone down to nothing or worst team in the conference of just he was out of the picture. Which is what the value of each player boils down to. I don't think people understand the meaning of this award nor why it is given. Stats have very little to do with it, ability has very little to do with it, even skill doesn't have much to do with it and playoff outcomes have absolutely NOTHING to do with it but people always bring up them in MVP conversations for some reason.lmbo xP but I digress, it all comes down to one individuals value for his specific team compared to the worth another player has for his own team. Dot period.

To an extent, yeah. KD is clearly the 2nd best player in the NBA and I don't see how is that debatable. He needs to drop that Kawhi 2nd propaganda.

Paulo Vieira fuck durant khawi is better

Max is never right

Nanko fax

D Dupont far from that Hater fuck you and durant weak ass took the easy way to get ring 👑 🍷.

WHERE'S MY GRAPHIC???

Mike ferrari Ferrari best underachiever of all time

Mike ferrari Ferrari no he ddnt. Because hes not

Don't forget the Great Actor

Why do people suck Jordan's dick so much? He's a terrible guy. His shoes have gotten so many killed. I would have stopped selling them or sold them cheaper. He never speaks on social issues affecting his community. He is very selfish and arrogant. LBJ is a great father, very charitable, he speaks out, and he tries to do the right thing.

arron rodgers is frigggin footlba plagey dude silly

Kwamay brown Tiago Splitter Rasho Nesterovic Michael Jordan Zaza Pachulia They can beat any team since they have MJ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lmao 3 years ago ppl were making fun of jokic? He’s an MVP now

d boy get money lol I literally stopped the video

d boy get money what

Yea some might switch ad and curry but st worst curry is top 5 easily.

d boy get money Word! Curry is worth so much more than shooting, he (and Klay) are like magnets sucking in defenders to get their team mates open. It’s not just a static double team but fluid misdirection. It’s like am M 1-on-1 VP.

He isn't top 5 it is just hype cause he is in warrior also he is a defensive liability

This didn’t age well? 🤣🤣

@@blackgfazos165 ad and kawhi don’t even play much anymore due to load management and obvious injuries

@@d.a.t8582 ain’t my fault

@@trev1310 so

Yeah I mean Leonard is very good but he practically didn’t play the entire season

A Mohamoud is your diapers even changed yet

jack hammer yea people talk about him like he's the second coming as if the league doesn't have enough talents without him

D rose is the best of he wasnt hurt

Kawhi is better than Harden.

Brady W people that think harden doesn’t play defense don’t know the first thing of the NBA.

so you think he can by KL defense? i doubt it. Just so you know Harden didn't do nothing in game 7 again. he deserves the MVP but Lebron deserves it way more.

Calvin Wong funny the players voted Harden MVP too. Only fans think Lebron was the MVP of the season.

Only players that play good D are Leonard and A. Davis out of the 6 he mentioned

Been watching NBA for 20 years and playing for over 40 years, Har*en's defensive effort is appalling. He's just filling in time until his team regains possession.

J Doe you must be a kobe fan huh

Who's stats were better? Who played in a harder division? Who's team won the most games in the nba?

Ty Hamell Lebrons stats were better, his team was worse than everyone in the east so he might as well have been in a harder division. Even the hawks have a better starting 5 than the Cavs without Bron, so seriously foh you stupid bitch.

Sea Delirious bro Lebron ask for those bums he got jr and Tristan contract extension and ask for those trades so shut up it’s a reason Paul George didn’t go to the lakers he knows just like kyrie knew that if they won he would get 0 credit no player gets more excuses than Lebron he in West now I guarantee he lose to jazz or spurs guaranteed

Ur so right man!!

Airton Gomes. puts up 11 pnts in the finals***

Jeremiah Carter and still averaged 28. 🙄 What about lebron's 8 points against the old ass Mavs back in 2011 tho? 😂

José Francisco something that happend 7 year aho but lebron has learned from that. If lebron had curry, Thompson, draymond id be wraps

Currys overrated. Hes top 6 at best

LondoMc Steezy HAHAHAA LMAOOOO shut your fucking mouth, man

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Agreed

Spidey7747 Mvp was always about storylines. Yes, some absolutely deserved it but there was always a storyline behind that.

Donovan has been robbed

Spidey7747 Y’all don’t understand that these awards are for the regular season and post season success doesn’t influence who wins these awards in any way shape or form .

Knodeway 18 curry ain't better than harden

iMAJESTiC how is harden better than curry?

Knodeway 18 kyrie betta than curry and harden

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*AD is not better than him, y'all sound delusional. AD hasn't accomplished anything.*

He definitely did not. The fact that people tried to use totals for Bron shows he lost lol. He played all 82 games so ppl for the first time ever talked about who had more total points, total rebounds and what not

He is easily a top 5 player. He's a one-man team, curry is so lucky he has 3 all stars(and MVP) to depend on.

DJ ShaqTown Lonzo should have won it this year

Mr. Clutch_6. Did you just say 1 man team? Man fuck tou cp3 is better

He didnt get snubbed Westbrook was more valuable to his team than Harden is to his. Russ avg 30 won a scoring title and avg a triple double. Its only like 20 or so players who have ever avg 30 in a season.

DJ ShaqTown wrong ! Bc harden shoots poorly also he only plays 1 side of the ball ! He’s the worse defender with star attached to his name . He punches off on defender . Also he holds the ball so long that his assist are easy

James Diligents foh

Agreed

James Harden Lebron kawhi kd curry ad

Albert edmond crack is a strong drug... stop using it

He won mvp

Mariah Lin Exactly he plays in a system where he gets shots easily set up for him instead of actually working for them

Facts

You had me till that badly injured BS. He just choked. Shit happens sometimes man. Deal with it

I'm no bandwagon guy, I watched Steph miss a 3 against Kansas that would've bet them in the tournament, by the way they went on to win the ship. U spoke facts... He is the only player other the Michael to capture ur attention in a game. U absolutely must know where he is at all times an everyone knows that an he still gets open🤔 An max murdered SAS on his closing

Not only that, but for me timing is important. Harden has been scoring points for nearly a decade, but when you need them the most he disappears. There's a difference between a scorer and a winner

Badly was an exaggeration. My bad.

Anne HBurn yes the hell he is look at their history

Anne HBurn kawhi clamps him up every time

Respect bossman KD is better. Kawhi always had a better coach. KD usually did well against the spurs when he was on okc when injuries didn't hold his team back

Respect bossman Kd has more scoring titles , mvps , finals mvps and better all around game , only thing kawhi has is perimeter defense Kd does everything else better , gets more rebounds , better passer way better scorer , clutch and already exposed kawhi on multiple occasions he’s never been on KD level

KD IS THE BEST PLAYER NOT NAMED LEBRON JAMES DONT @ ME

Uhh yeah is my my guy it's so obvious

KD owns Kawhi everytime they play.

KD, is that you again on your burner account?

Jaylen Brown yes lol kd been putting in work for years I'm not putting kawhi over kd for 2 good seasons

So in your logic Kawhi is better than Lebron right?

Kwamay brown Tiago Splitter Rasho Nesterovic Michael Jordan Zaza Pachulia They can beat any team since they have MJ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well that’s partly true but they all were before their prime.

Supa Slime harden soft???? I can see if kd soft but harden?

You obviously didn't watch their finals vs the Heat then. Harden was non-existent, he disappeared under the pressure. KD and Russ were the only ones keeping them in the game.

Eniamor Haye I think that’s unfair to blame Westbrook and here’s why. The Thunder with Westbrook, KD, and Harden only went to one finals and literally the offseason after that finals Harden was traded not because he asked for one, but because the Thunders management didn’t want to pay him the max. Then even after that they were still contenders within the west and were one game away from another finals visit when both Westbrook AND KD went cold and couldn’t pull out the series. People forget that Westbrook wasn’t the one who cost them that series and arguably played better than KD in it. Hell he did what everyone wanted him to do and that’s give up shots, especially in crunch time, and he played a game that let KD do what he wanted to do and they still couldn’t get it done. I don’t think it was Westbrook’s or any of the big threes fault they didn’t win a chip. If anything it’s the managements for making none headed moves or simply just wrong place wrong time. Their games weren’t developed enough to completely dominate and they were separated before they could

I hate Russell Westbrook but you make no sense wtf are you trying to say

Pretty boy Ant he’s 33 he doesnt defend till the playoffs

King Wani doesn’t defend until playoffs ? Didn’t see him play D against the Warriors 🤷🏻‍♂️ where was he games 2-4 when KD was dropping buckets on his head ??

Skip is that you?

Pretty boy Ant you sound like skip bayless

King Wani quit makin excuses

Farty McGee Exactly.

That what pg suppose to do idiot

FP question. Can curry carry a team like harden has done in the past? Could he carry a washed up dwight Howard to a top seed?

NotAcasual BBallfan Curry 22-0 when Kevin Durant is out on injury and kd is 14-8 with curry out.

Marvin M. McIntyre curry has always had good teammates. I’m asking if you put curry on the rockets his career would he have carried teams?

NotAcasual BBallfan Curry won 67 games and a chip with only klay as an all star and no other 19ppg scorer.Gsw in 2016 isnt winning 50+ without curry.I bet if curry had howard in 2015 yall would critisize him.

ummm KOBE n shaq won three n a row n " almost " 4 in a row....lol who the fuck uses almost in a sports debate 😂😂😂

Yeah Curry carried a team that’s still better then 90% of the NBA without him, sure that’s a lot of carrying lmao stfu

Sean Legghette Curry is 22-0 without kd. When kd is out on injury. Kd are 14-8 without steph. When steph is injured.

TrustTheProcess Curry carried? Curry is an all time great but he did not carry the Warriors. It was a team effort. Klay, Dray and Iggy always defended the oppositions best player night after night. They did hid Curry's defence so well that Curry had the freedom to just shoot.

Magic sucked on defense too. who cares

Cody Kays How???!!! LeBron James has 3 championships and 3 finals mvps while Anthony Davis hasn’t even made it out of the second round

@Cody Kays lol every player has more losses than rings

cuz hes a big man, idk what it is but espn has a weird obsession with big men, i feel like they dont really care about whos the better ball player just who has the better physique, thats why they constantly suck off lebron, AD, Giannis, and Zion even though Harden and KD both put up better stats then those players and score more effortlessly

@@guilhermestringheta2902 thats cap kobe went to the finals 7 times and won 5 of them, stop makin excuses for lebum

@@deeppatel7496 i mean losses overall, not final losses

and he did not

TheCephalon That’s pathetic

Dolemite. Hes right

What do you expect? Max is an idiot when comes to anything but boxing...

Juan Diego Paguia shut up bitch ,make me a taco, and take your ass back across the Fucking border

Dolemite triggered much ?

Cornell Ginger facts

Not the best team just a great regular season, one that won't be repeated, lol.

Cornell Ginger LBJ is the MVP.. But harden getting it is not terrible like Westbricke last year

Cornell Ginger three times

If you’re gonna have the award show after the season is done, you need to make the mvp pertain to the whole season/playoffs which was lebron. Lebron was better and more valuable than harden, harden only won this year out of pity

Lol.... He probably wouldn't have went to the right award show.... He aint the sharpest knife u know

Sam Knight bro you're tripping. A better shooter but that's all. In fact you shouldn't compare these two

Guarentee AD will never have a 73 win regular season. People still underestimate Curry so much it's crazy. AD is amazing but the impact Curry has on the whole team is not reproducible. There is a reason every player who plays with Curry shoots higher FG% and higher 3%.

Invalid comparing a point guard and a power forward/center

You're crazy AD is better than curry in everything else except shooting 3s

THEjayrodriguez so what youre saying is A.D has better handles than one of the best pgs in the league? cause i never saw that

Larry Okoye kyrie better than both of em

stop

Larry Okoye yes the fuck he is💯

Seth Stiers u mean Kyrie has better handles than both of them. Last I checked, Kyrie has no 30ppg seasons.

Davis is not top 3, have davis 5th on this list and that's correct

nope

PeaceFan1 wrong bitch boy Harden MVP

Winston Smith Lebron should have won mvp he deserves it more than harden

PeaceFan1 er nah bro. Don't au defense

Coming from a houston fan i would pick lebron tho 👀🤷🏽‍♂️

Elijah Rodriguez It was his 2nd season

Ivan Heinz you don’t win mvp for what you do in the playoffs dumbass

did u not watch the 76ers vs the celtics? Sounds like your the dumbass LOL can't find the joke.

Ceejay Lopez it was a joke dumbass

Ceejay Lopez you dumb af

Ivan Heinz Ok he’s a rookie he struggled in the second round so what ? Why should this erase everything he did in the season when it’s a regular season award , how about how he average a 18 point triple double basically in the first round ? Y’all haters kill me

Steph is barley top 5....hes not better than lebron kd ad or kawhi you focus only on shooting..his de defense is ass.....green plays point for them ...klay iggy green kd defend ..all curry has to do is spot up and catch and shoot..hes not top 4...in fact i put harden over him

Asmosis Jones and none of them could shoot Better than him..his scoring is enough to outscore and dominate everyone over there..

Curry is better than AD and Kawhi. Curry plays off-ball defense better than both of them by avoiding switches, anticipating plays, playing passing lanes etc., and he’s also much more dangerous offensively than both of them not only because he’s the GOAT 3pt shooter, but also because he’s highly efficient inside (59% from 2pt range, AD only 55%). He also stretches defenses to half court, plays off-ball much better than both of them, and makes defenses double team and trap him when he has KEVIN FREAKIN DURANT on the same team.

Asmosis Jones hater alert. curry better than kawhi and ad bruh

Joshua Hart he literally didn't avoid the only switch that he should 've in his entire career. Golden state knew Cleveland was going to get Steph switched onto kyrie and he didn't avoid it.

GloryBoy -18- I put harden 10 or 11

Take Kawhi off the list. He didn’t play THIS season 2018! So for this season he shouldn’t be on the list.

you don't know basketball then

Harden is 4th. Stop overrating AD who barely just won a playoff series, also kahwi is not that high, it should be 1. lebron 2. KD 3. Steph 4. Harden 5. AD 6. Kahwi

so why you guys blame Harden for not being able to carry Rockets in WCF lol.

LORD KEITH AD is better lol

LORD KEITH I would start my team with AD and KR over Harden.