Stephen A. STILL isn’t putting Steph Curry on his NBA Mount Rushmore 👀 | First Take 

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Facts 😂

If you have Steph and Magic on the same team. Who are you the most worried about? (Be honest) Of course Magic will get open looks because the defense will be running after Steph because he's a bigger threat than Magic. Despite his height dude gets rebounds too, I dont know how he rebounded well well they're undersized. If Magic was 6'3, he would be just a regular dude compared to if Steph was much taller.🤦🏾‍♂️ He's higher than Magic on my list. At some point, these old people except MJ will have to be left in the past. We recognize them but we just let them be in their own area. Physically, skillwise they dont match players in today's area.

warriors Champions again next year and the year after that

curry greatest player of all time and getting greater he is mount rush more

I used to hate curry and the warriors because I love Lebron talent but after some time I had no choice but to love curry and what he brings to the game. I think we witnessed a great rivalry in Lebron and the warriors. I just hate the comparisons because their two different players and have completely different paths

Finals mvp was the argument vs him not being a top 10 player. Top 4 is different.

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I bet you can’t name anyone else on that “loaded” squad without looking it up 🤷‍♂️

@@topsykretts2264 Bob Cousy…

@@mitchellajieroh John Havelecik

@@topsykretts2264 sam jones

Facts

I'm a Knicks fan.. He sure did!

Took him forever

@@ramzitg2357 Okay Gordan Ramzi.

No other team won while putting up 100 threes a game.

@@ramzitg2357 but he got the job done.🤷‍♂

Lebron chased Championships

@@kcorpora1 it’s almost as if championships are the entire point of the sport haha

@@trell439 championships are important. but it is how you obtained them, what role, etc. I question Lebron, KD, Curry Champions. There should be a debate show on that.

​@@kcorpora1 If you look at the stats Lebron was absolutely the reason Miami won those championships. He led in so many stat categories and was insanely clutch on both ends of the floor, willing the team to victory in many games. You can't say that about the Durant championships where the team basically looked unbeatable.

@@johnhachey9239 and the reason they lost them 2

I laughed so hard when he said that

i was just about to comment that lol bro was fed up

And he graduated college!

Hakeem the Dream won mvp,dpoy,championship and finals mvp all in 1 year.

Yeah, won the ASG but Lebron won the game last shot 🤷🏻‍♀️ Curry always disappear when the team needs him the most !!, 💅🏼

@@latinaforever4892 tf u talking about go watch the NBA finals 2022 smh your probably another skip Bayless

@@latinaforever4892 at this point your logic is Blake Griffin is better then Michael Jordan smh

My thing is greatness is greatness and you shouldn't have to put people on Mount rushmore's. If you're great, you're great. You shouldn't have to be compared to other players who are great

curry greatest player of all time and getting greater he is mount rush more

What's up perk where is your mouth now Boston sucks

@@flyguy7825 Nothing wrong with healthy comparison, its natural human behavior to help you become the best version of yourself.

@@flyguy7825they criticized Russell for his era...but don't criticize babe Ruth for only playing against white players and never faced the great black players of that era...

This has mad boomer energy

@@BlazerManiacNumber96 I mean he's right all these analysts talk about these players 24/7 and fans just talking trash to each other on the internet. lol

@@RiruKrypto_ I don't disagree. Just the phrase "I miss 90's baskerball" is pretty cringey lol

@@BlazerManiacNumber96 what a newbie

If there is one thing KD is right about it's the media and fans creating narratives and pushing them. Whatever in the moment fits is what's pushed. You can 10 straight years of great basketball and have one bad series and people say you're trash or vice versa.

He has to bring up racial issues in every conversation that’s why

Exactly we don’t care about that in these times lol

If he wins another one next year, I'd put him 2nd greatest all time

@Content Pirate lol

@Content Pirate Chill

@Content Pirate facts

Yeah, but not coming from him 😂

Mannnn

Okay get some rest.

I didnt even know people said no2

Forgetting steph beat kd several times when he was with okc. That's why he left in the first place.

@@Idonthaveahandke they played just once in the playoffs though

@@Idonthaveahandke they only beat them once

This the only credible championship they won. Every other chip was by default

No he didn’t, he does the same thing at 2:35

@@conceitedfication what is bro talking about 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@kiwavy foo trippin 🤣🤣🤣

@@conceitedfication on god 😭💀

Mount Rushmore isn’t “the best” it’s the men who got us to where we are today. At least the real one is. So in my eyes that’s Lebron, MJ, Steph, and Kareem

Mount Rushmore isn’t “the best” it’s the men who got us to where we are today. At least the real one is. So in my eyes that’s Lebron, MJ, Steph, and Kareem

@@eddietonore2813 ''The men who got us where we are today.'' and you don't have Magic or Bird?

@@eddietonore2813 technically Magic and Larry saved the game in the 80s… and without Russell there are no MJs, Kareem’s, Bron’s, etc..

@@rocheetoile649 Both crucial to the NBA, but I don’t think Bird evolved the game like the other guys. Magic is the next one up in my mind but if we only have 4 spots those are my picks just because I feel like someone else would’ve come along to revolutionize the PG position eventually.

But at the end of the day, they still get paid lots of money to give their 2 cents.

I'm glad you brought this up. It's all for entertainment. That's why they all are shook with this New Media movement. Draymond, Pat Bev and others will take over as commentators who they actually played the game (excluding Big Perk, JJ Reddick and JWill), but with an edge and not caring what the masses think.

LBJ 2016s Cavs actually beat them🤦🏽‍♂️ Do you think b4 you even write something? They were 73-9 and fully healthy. 💯

@@christiantorres8220 You gotta remember the gift nba gave lebron during that series lol

@@Joker-jz9cn Whay the back to back 41 point games 🤡

The Warriors had Draymond for game 6 and 7 and they still lost

@@Joker-jz9cn if thays the case why did GS beg KD to join them. If they were so confident they could beat LBJ and Kyrie🤡🤔

I grew up watching Jordan but I agree with SA

Im 22 and my Mt. Rushmore is mj lbj kareem and magic

never happening

That doesn’t play well on socials so that will never come to pass in this current day and age.

shut up it’s literally a show for entertainment everyone is still enjoying their greatness

Brah it’s all for fun they all know these players are great they are here to debate

Hal Greer is in HOF.

Wilt played with 9 Hall of Famers.

@@reyesrn1935 he averaged 50 points in a season tho regardless of playing against welders or firefighters lol. 50

Wilt is in a different category than even MJ in my opinion!! Google him and his all time records!!!!

It's his Mt Rushmore at the end of the day, mine is Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant. There's many players that can be on Mt. Rushmore but it's your opinion on who you want on it.

They literally changed 5 rules for Wilt. They have changed none for SC. They modified a few for Harden. Changing the game isn't the argument you probably want to hang your hat on.

To be on the Mount Rushmore you have to have more than 4 all NBA 1st team selections

@@cameronno6039 well teams shoots more 3s than dunking the ball..so he changed the game..shooting 3s is more watch then dunking in this era..thanks to Steph..

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He a little sensitive

Yes he does be doing that lol

Tim didn’t change the game though. That does matter. The reason players no longer play like Tim is because of Steph and his impact. And yes I saw Tim’s entire career.

@@bluewave3417 I get your point... At the same time there hasn't been anyone like TD either ... Fundamentally sound cared about defense and could care less about the spotlight... Name another like him.. Garnett came close but arrogant and loud

Tim Duncan was dominant. 2 Regular season MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs 5 championships.The most accomplished power forward of all time. Time Duncan carried the offense in San Antonio when David Robinson retired he carried the defense in the paint which is why he has 15 All defensive selections. I guess you can say Shaq didnt change the game either.

@@jamesvzfighter well said 💯👏🏼

I have tim in my mount rushmore, over wilt that is

You care that’s why you’re watching

@@harrissr.615 exactly lmao.

clearly you thats why your here. like it or not the guy has been studying the game for almost 40 years, he knows better than you.

Get a job

wow. never knew that about Kolff not letting Wilt back in the game. Horrible.

Very good points!

Yea that's kinda a similar argument to a lot of debates within the top ten players all time. Most people say Wilt was the better individual player, but Russell had the more success, so they end up being about even when it comes to ranking this arbitrary "greatness" that includes skill and accolades. Similar deal with KD vs Curry, where most years KD was the better individual player, but curry has the more success. Or magic vs bird where Magic had more help therefore more championships

you wasted your life to type all that

@@Nick-qi6ei you wasted yours to type that

Kyrie is the greatest handler of all time, curry ain’t on that level of handles. I’d take Crawford Ai and kyrie before steph

Thank you

Kobe is ahead of lebron to me

Other players don’t have him there too. Let’s not act like it’s disrespectful to have MJ, LeBron, Kareem, Russell, Magic, Larry, Kobe and Duncan ahead of Curry.

On what list? Iguodala said Curry is the best point guard, that's the only certain thing that Perk can go with - and with Iguodala being teammates with Curry you can take that line with a grain of salt. There's no way Lebron or Wayde has Curry in their top 4 players of all time and they didn't say that at all, Perk reaching on those.

he been on a roll last few months lol

lmao whaaat? perk didn't even address the question

Fr they be thinking that there Mount Rushmore means something more then the players

@@kentekuzan there wasn't a question to begin with lmao it was a discussion.

Nah.

Nah.

No

He should be bro.

Kobe is a worse version of MJ, don't need 2 of them

Na he’s like 12

@@krndevil313 it’s arguable, I’d put him in the 10 spot

No way kid. Who you taking out, Lebron? Lol

@@supervong1 Russell and Wilt. Hakeem is there at 8, 9 shaq then Curry

I'd take out Oscar Robertson

Larry legend is 5th or 6th in my eyes no way I'm removing him for steph who BTW I believe he's 12th all time

@@aggelostzimagiorgis good thing your opinion don't matter. Curry at 12 is ludacris. Curry is 8th

@@mmsmith3341 and your opinion does ? 😂

@@DeeboGreen i'd say general consensus is the big O gotta get bumped out to let curry in

@@DeeboGreen no but me putting curry top 10 is way more sane

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You can't just add a 5th person to the Mount Rushmore. Otherwise it's not the Mount Rushmore.

Zero defense, glass ankles aaand carried by role player Iguodala...Not even top 10. Also blew a 3-1 lead. 🤡

He isn’t jumping up to top 5 even after a ring next year

@@BillyBob-ky2px well he should have 3 mvps rn he got robbed in 2015 and 2018 so he should have three mvps and in 2016 him and bogut were hurt and lebron cried to Adam silver and in 2019 klay went down or else they would have come back from 3-1

But Steph has dominated Lebron so called era

What if the BOI wins another chip?

@@nbassasin8092 so who would you replaced?

@@xpact83 I'm just asking if him winning the 5th would make a difference

@@nbassasin8092 well if he wins another chip, let’s be honest, his accolades still doesn’t put in in the same place as Bron, MJ, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Kobe. He would have similar rings, but everything else is still inferior. Lemme be honest with you, my issue with Steph is this, Lebron, Kobe, Wilt, Russell, MJ, Kareem I have seen some part of the media, Journalist, teammates, former players, and current players make a case at one point that one of those is the best basketball player ever. Like, someone at some point has said Kobe, MJ, LeBron, Kareem, Wilt, Russell is the best ever, whether we agree or not. On all these debates in the media or players about Steph, no one has ever even stated or tried to make the argument is the best basketball player ever. That tells us something. Steph biggest ticket to top 5 ever is he changed the game, and that for me cannot put him top 5, because in the moment, those things are overvalued. 50 years from now, it would not matter as much as, how much rings, FMVP, MVP do u have. How many total points, assists, rebounds do u have and how many records is your name one. In that regards, Steph has only three points records going for him, and it will be hard, 20 years from now for people to say he is top 5 ever just because of that.

He has passed magic for sure steph best pg all time

Steph has a better resume than Magic, Kobe and Duncan. You can argue they were better players or you like them more but objectively what Steph has accomplished and how he's changed the game is more impactful than the guys I just mentioned.

@@batssama Magic has *1* more championship than Steph after playing with Kareem Abdull Jabbar who is arguably the 3rd greatest to play the game, in a time period where the West was weak and their competition was the Bird's Celtics in the East. Magic has 3 finals MVP's and Steph has 1, but we can clearly agree Steph was 100% robbed of his first one in 2015. Additionally, Steph didn't win FMVP in 2017 and 2018 but we can still clearly see that the team is built around him and that he was the reason that team was great - look at KD in the Celtics series this year without Curry drawing the defense; they get gentlemen swept. Even if KD puts up a nicer looking statline Curry is the real MVP of the series and driving force behind that teams success. Also, you say Magic revolutionised the PG position but so did Curry. Every team wants to shoot the 3 now, he made big men irrelevant even though they were the most important players for almost all of basketball history prior to Curry. If you want to be a star centre int he current league, you have to be extremely multifaceted like Jokic, Embiid, Giannis. Finally, the biggest reason I put Curry above Magic is intangibles and factors you can't put on paper. Magic is flashy but Curry's the most selfless superstar in history. Just because he doesn't get the assist doesn't mean he didn't create for his team. He averages 6.5 assists for his career but what about all those points that are created just because he's on the floor? He creates so much space and even if the official assist doesn't belong to him he creates much more for his teamates through the spacing he creates and his willingness to move the ball until it reaches a teamate that is open because of him. Russel Westbrook is the opposite; a guy that will only pass with the intention of getting the assist, not a true creator like Curry. I think people are too nostalgic about the past, like we are when we think of our childhood. You don't wanna admit it but Curry is objectively better than Magic and has also changed the game. He creates just as much for his team if not moreso through his presence on the floor and unselfish basketball, and that's why people overlook him. It's the same for Tim Duncan. Duncan was a 5 time champion, 3x FMVP, 2x MVP, and the cornerstone of his franchise, yet he barely cracks the top 10 list for most people because he isn't flashy. Meanwhile, Kobe who played 2nd fiddle to Shaq for 3 of the chips he won is ranked higher than Duncan on almost every list, some people even put him on NBA mount rushmore. And this is just because he's flashy and they get nostalgic thinking about him. Selfless players don't get the recognition they're due for because they're less flashy, but Magic is more appealing because "showtime"

Bird in peak prime is better than Kobe Magic Russell Steph...

@SuperPunch76 you’re right it makes him the greatest player of all time

@@JohnDoe-og1ur lmao what .so curry is the GOAT curry fans??🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@JohnDoe-og1ur bruh got finally 1 finals mvp and his fans acting like steph is the GOAT what a delusional

@@budrud it’s okay you’re just a jealous hater who cannot accept greatness but being a hater must run in your bloodline so I don’t blame you✌️

How? And what year?

@@stonedecatur6602 2015 onwards. Every team wants to shoot the 3 now. He killed the era of big men dominating in the post, and instead we saw guards become the cornerstone of franchises (Lillard, Harden, Westbrook). Only recently we see an emergence of big men, and they have to shoot the 3 and/or be extremely multifaceted to build around (Jokic, Embiid, Giannis).

Steph has just been placed on mt. Rushmore by Perk, with one questionable finals MVP. And underrated?

If Durant never hoped ship and he woulda won a title maybe were having a different convo but he will always be tainted by Durant joining , is what it is

Smh , they will not give Kobe the respect he deserves. Absolutely ridiculous

It’s because they paved the way for the league. You have to really think about it. American sports were dominated but unathletic white men for a while until these pioneers came through… keyword “pioneers”

lol these narratives are crazy somehow 1 ring got curry from top 20 to top 10 and according to u if he wins another 1 it will get him to top 5. what exactly did we learn from curry in this championship that we didn't already know from the 2015,2017,2018 ones? if anything he played worse and the team all together played worse. so that just means one thing the competition wasnt up to par.

And he will and still say he’s not top 4

So why didn't those other teams win? They only had 7 opponents too.

@@peskypesky Celtics were the most stacked team during that era

@@Rexlee1123 but would they have won all those championships without Russell? No.

You have to take Lebron out. He’s not MT Rushmore……tier 1 yes but not MT Rushmore which I also believe ya Overrating Lebron a bit.

@@tumadrechupapinga6252 His career statline is absurd and one of one (30k pts, 10k rebs & asts), was great at defense (during his prime), and won rings and individual awards. Who moves above him into the top 4 then?

Cuz he’s better than all of them

@@BK-zf6jh Nah it's cause he's not as good, well rounded, or accomplished as the players on Mount Rushmore.

u realise lebron is better than bird right? steph gawkers and warriors fanboys are so cringy bro cry to people about giving ur boyfriend his props but act butthurt when bringng up lebron even tho u know hes top 2

Magic Kobe LeBron Duncan Kareem Best of 7 26 chips right here over 15 MVPs

Kobe and mj? How is he top 2?

Ever heard of MJ? Lol curry is no where near as lethal as MJ.

no bro, delete this comment

Nowhere near kobe and mj

I’m only putting MJ ahead of him as a offensive weapon .. Kobe 3rd

Based on that rationale James harden would be on Mt. Rushmore. I see your point, but I think it’s a little more complex than that.

@@charlesjones190 why James harden? And yeah I get it’s flawed but I always hated how they said that.

@@lochnloaded6905 drawing fouls and rule changes on whats a shooting foul. aswell as the stepback.

@@gvgaming3603 And what else has James Harden accomplished besides an MVP and all star appearances?

@@charlesjones190 just stop

Think about it... when Kobe became the 1st player to do 30k pts 6k assist and 6k rebs the media show or sports analysts said nothing...they made a bigger deal about lebron passing Kobe in scoring than they did Kobe passing mj...I understand Kobe isn't everyone's cup of tea but the disrespect was always kinda real

Stef colded blooded best shooter hands down however any era is a stretch without a doubt