Stephen A. to Pat Bev: Just because you're honest doesn't mean you're right! | First Take 

I actually like it when Stephen A has a point and isn't just yelling lol

Pat Bev has some decent insight but his overwhelming bias toward certain players is impossible to ignore.

Math teacher " 1+1 = 2" Pat Bev "1 what? 1 ball? 1 jersey? 1 pair of shoes? You have to be specific. I'm a detailed person"

Pat Bev's argument for James Harden proves he has an issue with Chris Paul

Stephen A just schooled him!

If you love your friend you must tell them the truth even if it hurts their feeling is still better than lying to your friend

Stephen A speaking facts it sounds like James harden getting the super max benefits Patrick Beverley with the way he’s arguing for it for him

You just can't defend Harden after his game 7 performance. You pay all that money and make that commitment just for him to meltdown in the playoffs

Harden not getting the supermax. It was already reported that he was gonna accept his player option as one of the conditions of the trade. They just missed the deadline is all. Why is this a topic

"Just because you're honest doesn't mean you're right" and the same applies to SAS always shouting like a fool.

Here's the thing, Harden still is a star in this league, he still can ball out and no one is debating that fact, but you can't honestly say he's worth supermax dollars when his play has dropped off appreciably since his injury. Added to the fact of his play in these playoffs just added to this argument of him not deserving of a supermax today, plus add his resume of playoff failures in the past, plus the fact he forced his way out of both Houston and Brooklyn, and in both circumstances out of shape. Don't get me wrong 22/10/8 are excellent stats for anyone, but when your Harden, who just like four years ago was an MVP, averaging roughly 28 points over the last several years before his injury to now just more a facilitator than a scoring machine. He's not the Houston guy anymore, so to me it's difficult to justify him getting supermax or max dollars when his production has slipped noticably this season. Now maybe he gets back into shape to garter a supermax next season if he does indeed opt in his 47 mil this season, and he better because I have serious doubts if he does have an inkling to opt out, he will not get the supermax with the 76'ers. I just don't see it happening, but again there will be teams that would sign him a max deal outside of Philadelphia, it always happens. To me he's gonna have to prove next season he can perform near what he was capable of doing before his injury to earn that max.

I understand pat bevs logic, but you can’t go off of hardens previous resume. Only time I would do that is if he was a bit younger maybe 25-27 because you are beginning to enter your prime and you can bank on a player getting better. He’s 32 now and he had a bad performance in the playoffs so it seems he’s on a decline rather than incline. Max money but not super max

Steven A., you don’t see the hurt in this man’s face? This is about the ending of his friend’s career. And possibly the coming ending of his career. This is the truth but it hurts. That’s why Patrick is fighting.

Well said SAS! 👏

Matt Barnes was right about Patrick Beverly

Harden did exactly what CP3 did...he didnt show up. Pat Bev's brother is probably second on the list of "fall apart in the playoff" guys, riiight behind CP3, who he hates. I wish he would make at least one logical point in 2 days.

Excellent point Steven A , few people who are in the Media Seat can get it Done and Get it Right, but you just Did!

I need me a friend like Pat

U know Chris Paul has actually been to the finals as a leader of the team, Stephen A is right as much as i love Harden if Pat Bev talk like that about CP he shouldnt be saying James Harden deserves the max

this time i can genuinely say stephen a is right

The Character Assassins!!

thank you Steven A

And here I was thinking Pat Beverly was going to be the arbiter of perfect truth and impartiality

Stephen A. Made a great point!!👍🏾

Just cause you are honestly doesn't mean you are right... So real

Sometimes when you're too close to something or somebody you might not be able to be fair or objective

ESPN said we got a new hot take get him back, he’s off anyway

the face on pats face when SAS brought up CP - Pat hates CP so much

Coming from Stephen "I'm Just Being Honest" Smith.

Agree with Stephen 💯

Patrick Beverly definitely has a future as a sports analysis 🧐

The Point God

Everywhere you turn, media personnel are taking personal shots at the players. Therefore, you see fans feeling embolden to do the same, hence these disrespectful fan interactions

For a change, Stephen A Smith is spitting FACTS!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥

I DISAGREE with anyone trying to get someone paid less. Now when the athletes go to ESPN and say. Smith makes too much. Pay him less on his next contract. How about that. Keep your mouth out of other people's pockets. Paul and harden have the same amount of championships.

The beauty in it is that Pat knows his bias, and he is entertaining us with it

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Hope Harden will fully recover next season like CP3 in 19

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Where's Pat Bev rebuttal? Video cut way to short!

Pat is basically Harden's "Yes man". You don't want that around you, give you the brutal truth.

Respect to pat bev. He is actually a good analyst

Being honest you’re always right un less you like to have things on both sides of the field and play games with facts.

Stephen A, though sometimes overbearing, has a unique style that is pretty cool when he gives other people a turn to speak.

The first 2 minutes of this you can tell ESPN told Pat and SA to get their 💩 together during a commercial break 😂

LMAO that’s a good quote 😂.

Stephen A is right here

Stephen a smith to pat bev: how high can you jump? Pat bev: what planet are we on?

How you give Harden a pass but not CP3. At least CP3 went to the finals. Harden disappears whenever the burden gets heavier.

Y’all was talking about Chris Paul like this too after that final year in Houston 😂😂

didn't think ANYbody could a worse "analyst" than Ryan Hollins, dare i say- i stand corrected.

Pat on that stuff. lol

Pet Bev looks like he's at the principal's office

Chris Paul by far one of the best beast at his respected positions. Pat B is another baller. Love what both bring to there teams. Ignore the small BS talk. Its just what SAS does for a living... gotta talk about petty stuff

Harden deserves the supermax👏👏👏

Stephen A took what Joel said out of context. Joel said that Harden isnt that player in Houston anymore because that kind of play that is mostly iso ball has a ceiling where u can score 30 or 40 and get great numbers but the team doesn’t win. It’s the same thing with Westbrook. Both get great stats as individual players but they need to change their game to be more team oriented so the team can win. And that’s why Joel said he is not that player anymore, cuz harden is not gonna just play iso ball, get 40 and still lose. harden is a great player but it will take time to adjust and adapt to a different kind of play. The challenge for the sixers coach now is to create a team system that will use Joel’s and hardens talents to their advantage. And u can’t do that in half a season. Next year they’ll be better, I’m sure they’ll work on chemistry over the summer

Another L take from Pat Bev. It doesn't take a basketball genius to see that Harden is washed. If you pair an almost-MVP in Embiid with a player that supposedly deserves a supermax, how are you going to barely scrape into the second round of the playoffs? Pat Bev really gonna roast CP3, a guy who Bev clearly has bias against after he slapped him out of the playoffs last year so hard that he got traded multiple times, and yet praise Harden, a guy who has consistently gotten worse over the last two years

Steven A vs James Harding. On the Court

Harden's regressed for sure, but why does everyone forget he sacrificed himself for the Nets by playing on that injured hammy for like the whole game with barely any rest? It's not like he lost a step because he wasn't taking care of himself, it's probably because he forced himself to play for the Nets. And then he sees the Nets coddle a guy who didn't want to play, while he sacrificed for them and was being treated with negativity, it makes sense why he did what he did to leave

Espn in Beverly ear like stop pulling your beard hair on national television.

discuss this trade options if he aint good no more. next

You can not give the super max to a player who disappears in May.

Pat Bev arguing from the standpoint of loyalty to a friend. Stephen A. argued from Harden's performance. Harden did not show up. Max contract for a man that shot less shots than one of the Heat's bench players? I think not. Sixers would be crazy to do that. I would rather see them give Maxey a max contract than Harden. At least you know Maxey gonna show up and give you 100% every game.

KEEP PATRICK BEVERLY ON ESPN

Pat is so unapologetic its so entertaining

Better overall career Russ or cp3 the answer is Russ he will be remembered more and players love him more they should debate that

Let's call it what it is, James Harden a great REGULAR SEASON talent. Playoffs he can't handle the pressure and he cracks!!! Second he play one way and refuse to adjust to others!!!

The 76ers needs to get Patrick Beverley period

Pat definitely getting a cut from Harden if he indeed gets the supermax 😂

Had bev silent 😂😂

Pat Bev is biased about everything. Love the dude and I’m sure ratings are rocketing with him on but he needs to learn how to be a true analyst. Everything’s personal with him

Stephen A is telling all facts...

I never ever in my life saw somebody wearing a pat bev jersey lmaoooooo

Stephen A definitely won this argument in my opinion.. but at the same time Beverly is interesting to listen to.

Pat wants harden to buy him a new car with that supermax

I’m a huge sizers fan…I’m here say if the sizers didn’t have harden down the stretch they don’t get the seeding they got, maxey game would’ve developed the way it did in the final months of the season and they lose in the first round to Toronto I read all these post that Harden feel off but why listen to this one of the great basketball minds , pat Beverly is saying which basically the defensive packages put against James harden meant to lock him and if you don’t have the best coaching behind you then you get shut down and made a shell of yourself. Houston Mike Dantoni was his coach and told the media harden would put historical numbers in “his” system….was he wrong? Harden will adjust as long as the sizers front office makes adjustments . Fact is Embid great as he is…gets hurts every season it seems which is no fault to him…then you expect MVP James harden when the sizers offensive scheme doesn’t warrant his “mvp” style of play. Overall the league in this post season the refs are inconsistent in there calls for the stars…let’s be honest… Back to harden super max. Why not ? Victor oladipo making 20 million plus coming off the bench and coming off ripping his quad off the bone . Why are so concerned about what money is going into this man pockets in the first place…saying why deserves..what he’s worth…none of know the back stories of what’s going on as there two sides the story . Me personally think he just locked up and didn’t play well as he could….fact is James harden is baller and went into a slump , it happens. If the sixers win the heat series no one talking this mess about how trash the all pro basketball player is…doc rivers once again was out coached by Spotra…he’s been out coached numerous times by his peers and still keeps getting top tiered contracts as coach…let’s speak on that fact.

The question isn't if James Harden deserves a super max, the question is who are the 76ers going to replace James Harden with. Once they say no to the super max deal, James Harden will say "I dont want to be here anymore". If I was Daryl Morey, I would pick up the phone and call Portland. Offer James Harden, Tobias, and a pick for Dame. Harden isnt worth a super max but you have to prepare for his departure when you say no.

Stephen A: "Chris Paul is recognized as one the elite point Guards to have ever played the game of basketball." Pat Bev's Face: 2:25

Pat Bev speaks true but it’s also double standards when it’s about CP.

Ever since James harden started hanging out with rappers his game of basketball has declined dramatically, and now the same group of rappers he was hanging out with have been indicted for criminal activity no telling if he was involved or not but he definitely looked like he had something else on his mind other than basketball the last couple of years, especially the last round of playoffs

super max for harden is ridiculous 😂

I swear that injury Harden had during the 2021 playoffs changed him forever...

He need the Mohawk back

give harden the max the process is officially over. Harden cant blow by anyone when he gets the ball the offense stops so easy to defend din the playfoffs

I say whoever the supermax guy is on the orlando magic trade him for harden thats about the only place he gonna get it they got the 1st rd pick. Also harden is a guard and the confrence rivals for the magic is miami i dont think he can get them over that hump supermax has to be like 10 mil a year he not worthy of 20 a year.

Why is Bev still here? He’s like a 9 year old with an attitude problem

Hamstrings take a very long time to fully heal. The 76ers need to wait and play a whole season with Har den before you can conclude that he's washed up. Relax folks and be patient.

I’m back watching first take again smh 😂

Finally someone who can shut molly up

Bev looks like black krusty klown

I don’t think Harden deserves the max but if he opt out which he most likely will, Sixers have to offer him a max level contract or he’ll leave. Unless sixers want to lose Harden for nothing they’ll give him the money.

Beard Science. Maaaaaaan… the cats over there at ESPN really know what they’re doing

Pat Beverly. If Harden was still a Rocket he would deserve a Super Max Contract for past performance for example. Philadelphia owes him nothing but his player option if he wishes to exercise it.

At this point it's clear ESPN brings him on as a joke, he wasn't invited to be taken seriously. The fact that he says he'd give Harden a super max means he is indeed phony, or plain old stupid

Supermax was on the table and he didn't show up. For WHATEVER reason, he didn't show up.

I’m cool on the Pat Bev hot take press run…When and why did we start caring so much about what he feels?

This Steven A speaks like a hustler 😂🤣

Sold the game

Not personal, Bev... just his opinion

Maybe if he was in shape he wouldn't have been injured in Brooklyn