Feeling so strongly about something so personal. Reaching out to others to express how meaningful something is to you, and them mocking you, is one of the worst fucking things to feel.
@@melonhead8760 i mean, give me a break. Can we not exist in the Grey, guys and ghouls..? What Steven shared is touching. In CONTEXT (you should check it out..) it's a little over-nerdy and funny. Get over Yourself and don't be a douche. Nuff sed.
Jerry deals with the mundane. He can't handle the profound. "How strange it is to be anything at all" is lost on him. He can do 20 minutes on how shoes are weird. It does kill, though.
I think Stephen only brought the NMH quote up because of how he interpreted Seinfeld's mundane comedy. He assumed the "show about nothing" is a critique on the absurdity of existence itself. It turns out Jerry just is hunting for the lowest hanging fruit, not making a meta commentary on the very nature of the mundane (protip: history has shown it was Larry who was the deeper of the two show runners who brought that level to the humor).
There are coincidentally a lot of parallels between that album and his own life. His father and brothers were all killed in a plane crash. Over the credits of his final show on Comedy Central he played a section of the song "Holland 1945" that in particular hit home.
@@nogoodbastid That piece of info is actually how I became a fan of Stephen. Also, thr fact that he's a big Tolkien geek. I think I remember he even sang/mouth along to the song as the credits roll.
I understand Jerry's reaction lol. I do, I've been laughed at like that and learned something from it: you have to be very humble about how people will receive precious things, even if it seems like the right time for it. There's this reflex toward embarassment if you're on the receiving end that's hard to explain, and you can end up grasping for levity even if it hurts the other person. It has a chilling effect on you, but it also makes you stronger. It's like death lol.
Yeah I get that. I was trying to sympathize with Jerry’s reaction cause sometimes I don’t want deep shit thrown at me out of nowhere yknow? And honestly I like what you said about having humility in these situations cause I feel like I’ve been in Stephens position many times and honestly the way you describe it is kind of the best way to go about it. If you cling to your “precious things” for dear life or death you only end up hurting yourself 😅
If he wasn't constantly doing that during every sincere moment I'd agree with you. He's not embarrassed. He's a prick. And if you think it's "strong" to laugh whenever someone is trying to share something with you then I've got bad news: that's a weakness.
Seinfeld, who thinks he's devoted his life to analyzing life, doesn't recognize the thesis statement of life. "How strange it is to be anything at all" is everything.
Larry David was always the one who did the reflection. Jerry just was the face saying "what's the deal?" That's why one is still writing a critically acclaimed sitcom and the other is just sitting back as other, better comics provide his show with (usualy admittedly good) fodder. Turns our Jerry is a decent interviewer, at least.
Colbert embodies exactly how it feels when you're seriously trying to show someone something truly beautiful, incredible and poetic and they aren't even paying attention. "You put your heart on a platter and all they do is laugh at you and all you can say nevermind dammit I knew I shouldn't have even tried to give you a chance and now I feel like the dumb one!" (an excerpt from Diary of a Wimpy Kid: My Unbelievable Emo Summer XOXO)
I saw this a long time ago, but made my mama listen to Oh comely and IAOTS and reminded me of this video. She's loves Colbert so I showed her this. I've liked SC since Strangers with Candy. Didn't think I could like him more. I was wrong. As a Tolkien fanatic he is one amazing guy. I was hating on Seinfeld for awhile after seeing this (and I've seen him live and love Seinfeld), but the comments changed my mind. He's human. He's on camera. This stuff isn't something to drop on someone in this situation. If I was expected to perform when someone laid NMH on me I may have done the same. Later regretted it. I'm giving you a pass Seinfeld.
Colbert is basically me at my freshman year in college and Jerry is how I am now. Maybe at some point I might go back to that former self. What I am saying is that these two personas can exist in everyone at different phases and different moods. So don’t be judgemental to either. People have various ways to keep that inner child and innocence alive.
I found this because I was looking up Neutral Milk Hotel and I'm a big fan and I sorta get why people are mad at Jerry Seinfeld but also...he's a comedian on a comedy show and he's just trying to keep the mood light.
That Morgan you drive... what a car! It is a quintessential example of: No one does "superfluous" so gorgeously as the Brits 🧐 🤭, LOL! I luv it! Even a slight glimpse of the grill & one just knows... It's gotta be British 🤔. To most American eyes, it has a bit of the perfected-oddity... that "Britsh-Bespoke- Quirkiness"🧐? Is there a word describing that particular Brit-thing? Well, if not, there should be! Jerry, being a car enthusiast, surely u also have the classic, original tow-truck that came with, yes?!🤭 Priceless! Let the good times roll! 🥳
If someone has less than a minute to spare but really wants to understand what kind of a person Stephen Colbert is, send them this clip. And if someone has less than a minute to spare but really wants to understand what kind of a person Jerry Seinfeld is, send them this clip.
In the car on the way back. They're talking about George C. Scott. He's not coloring his hair. JS hit the "of course" perfectly but he had the " looks so natural, no 1 can tell" in.... And left it hanging. That's genius.
I love both these men and I can’t stand how poetic Stephen sometimes goes off to be. Of course, I’d pretend to care and listen if I were there, but the fact thag Jerry doesn’t give a fuck and does this - I not only laughed out loud when I first saw him but respected him so much more.
I am the one who suggested to the Bluestone to get Jerry Seinfeld to do a show. I got the idea to mention it to the owner because I saw his show at Allendale Eats. Went there and talked to the owner. My name is Dennis Jaconetta,I live in Moonachie NJ>
Man, it really sucks to see someone be emotionally vulnerable for a second and then see someone else laugh them down because they obviously can't handle honest emotion in a healthy way. Jerry cant process Colbert being emotional and sincere so he laughs it off and acts embarrassed for Colbert as a defense mechanism
@@mettlehed76 Wow, you should look in a mirror sometime. Maybe you'll see another problem. What if this person you are being a giant penis to is 15? There are so many reasons for someone to take away a different point of view. Get off the computer and find some empathy. I disagreed with the other persons take, yet found you a bigger problem.
@@LukasPrimeEdition NMH fans are fervent. If you listen to ITAOTHS and it's makes the hairs on your neck stand up to the point that you drive 26 hours round trip with someone you just fell in love with to see them you'd understand. I graduated in 1999 and never heard it. I was turned onto it in 2013 under amazing circumstances that I don't have the time to explain. If Colbert is reciting this from memory out of thin air he really loves it. It means more to him than music means to a lot of other people.
He's trying not to laugh, he's just so overwhelmed by how Stephen had it ready to go and Stephen gets that he can't really go there in that moment. He's not hurt by not being able to share it, because Jerry just lifted out of the situation and couldn't help but laugh
it's one day not someday but that's fine stephen we'll let it slide (shit, commented before finishing the video, that absolutely does not matter and i love and appreciate his enthusiasm)
Not that I'm saying Jerry was in the wrong here but he accidentally was really disrespectful to Colbert here. Colbert is a huge fan of Neutral Milk Hotel and their songs mean a lot to him (he even played one of their songs at the end of his show). That is because he lost his father and two brothers in a plane crash and this song means a lot to him.
@@mettlehed76 an overly sensitive douchebag would make it all about himself going on a tirade about the songs personal meaning to him, then storm out. Stop being a drama queen, colbert got put off guard after being disrespected by Jerry and let it slide after realizing Jerry didnt know what he was saying.
And? So what? Just because something means something to you doesn't mean it means fuck all to someone else. You can sit their crying all about how a certain song makes you think of your dead friend or dad or whatever, and I'm not gonna say "oh my gosh I didn't think of that way, it's a really great song!" I'm gonna say "huh, that sucks.. but so does that song"
There's a reason Seinfeld did so we'll in the 80s and 90s. Postmodern ironic detachment reigned and sincerity was something to be mocked. Seinfeld's humor never grew beyond it.
Jerry is a guy who has never once in his life looked at a piece of art and been affected. What you see is what you get. He's hilarious, but is completely incapable of existing beneath the surface. And that's where I feel so fucking bad for him; he's just incapable of emotion on any human level. That combined with the narcissism is just too bad.
Exactly. If you listen to his WTF episode with Marc Maron this very point is crossed. Maron believing comedy can come from pain or be therapeutic, Jerry saying “a joke is a joke.”
Right, I get he's a comedian but fake crying about something someone shares with you as something they feel an emotional resonance with is 3rd grade class clown behavior not something an adult would find funny. Plus the subject of the song is quite deep in general (not that Jerry would know that so I'm not saying he's bad for not knowing so) it's about Anne Frank and the Holocaust.
This clip lives rent-free in my head. Colbert has incredible taste in music and I was introduced to R.E.M. and TV on the Radio through his Comedy Central show. Here he tries to be vulnerable and real for a second and Seinfeld just shuts him down because Seinfeld is a simple, closed-off little man.
Jerry was only prepared for COMEDIANS in cars getting coffee. He wants to talk about comedy, cars, and coffee. Colbert was being real, not kidding, and that made Jerry uncomfortable.
It’s because the lyrics are quite surreal. If I told the average person about those lyrics or most NMH lyrics then I would be getting weird looks from other people. They would just dismiss them as silly ramblings instead of looking at them with actual deep meaning. Props to Colbert for actually showing his true feelings on NMH but Seinfeld is a bit of a cynicist so I’m not surprised he responded this way.
@Joshua Jung You've done nothing to prove your claim that existence is well-understood. Even our own consciousness is literally a mystery and we use it to operate on every system in our civilization. People like you take for granted everything wonderful dark and deep about our world. You should refrain from commenting simply because you're stunted or inept.
@Joshua Jung You've made incredibly incensed comments about a simple statement about the nature of isms and you find it to not be a 'deep thought' but it's a prelude to deeper thoughts. You're really missing the point. People like you need more help than anyone can readily provide. Go get a education first.
I don't know why many people here are so personally insulted by Seinfeld laughing about having indie band lyrics quoted to him on a comedy show. You can find the lyrics meaningful but still find the moment funny. Get over yourselves.
I used to be like that. Where you think you’re so much deeper and smarter than the shallow morons who surround you. Until realizing all this overanalyzation and philosophical introspection not only makes you seem like a smug douche but actively makes you unhappy. Life isn’t as hard as these miserable wannabe philosphers make it out to be. You get out of it what you put in
