Shop Talk yeah you are right within reason. had a pal called blue covered head to toe in tattoos hence the name, he was in the dock when the magistrate walked in and the usher called please stand to which we all did, anyway the magistrate looks at blue with a look as if blue had murdered his hole family and said this is where you stand Mr blue, to which all of 5 foot nothing blue says, but I am standing. Anyway it doesn’t sound funny now but at the time and in the stressful setting of a court room everyone burst including the magistrate who was apologetic. Only time for me I’ve seen a human side to these normally robotic people. In general they are pretty moody not the one you rely on to get the party started 😂
I'm looking at going to law school I would like to do federal defense work, I have succeeded pretty heavily and mock trial and can't get enough of case law. This was an awesome watch.
I am loving his way of story telling 😍🙌🏻 awesomeeeee!!!!!!! Thank you for posting this, as a young lawyer am feeling so lucky to be able to watch this 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
When I was in my first year 23 years ago 😳 we watched the OJ Simpson trial as one Ls. Fascinating to have court on tv then much less Johnny Cochran. Good luck with your career. Trial work is hard, but rewarding.
They key to being a good attorney is thinking of being in court as like being a theatre. You have to give a performance. If you actually listen to what he's saying nothing is that complex or intellectually challenging. He's just a brilliant performer. That's what it's all anout.
Matt Stocks I don't see him as a brilliant performer. Might be a regional thing; he sounds like he's from New York; but he seems like an arrogant dick to me.
@ 17:50 "move to strike as unresponsive...."; "you were a police officer"; "you testified at trials before, correct?"; "you know how a witness is asked questions, correct?"; "you know what a proper response to a question is, don't you..." and back to the theory of the case. brilliant! Will surely use this the next time I find a witness unresponsive on cross! Thank you, Mr. Orden, for your lessons.
Yes! Such a Smooth and Excellent way to correct & and Go back to the case with your Question being answered Properly! This guy was Astounding! Even for a Mock trial!
You need to watch this over and over and over before you even take a single case. Cross examination is the most important part of your job and struggling with it he’s not gonna do any client any good. You have no business taking a single case and tell you mastered this
alistair lee Of course its a mock trial do you think the people watching proceedings would be allowed to laugh out loud and clap and behave like that? or that opposing counsel would say "my dog ate my copy" or that people would be able to lounge on the floor of the court room?? no way!
i actually like this cross examination questioning because it's really confronting the defendant face to face. I'm very interested in taking law as a career I would like advice from you
Awesome video, most lawyers conduct a mock trial to asses a case. If having any thoughts o becoming a lawyer or getting a lawyer go the the best ones that can offer you advises and guidance.
Mr. (attorney) Orden does it again. What an impressive cross examination strategy during this firearm/shooting case. This guy is one of the sharpest criminal defense attorneys in the country and certainly in the Northeast corridor. Just wondering how long he prepared for this...?? :-) Nice job Stewart.. The damn judge even looked intimidated by this guy. Yes, he's that good. Watch the video and you will see for yourself..
Lawyers in Connecticut Honestly, if he tried acting that way outside of the northeast corridor, it might not play well. I grew up in the rural Midwest, and he seems like a dick.
I want all the attorneys to be attorney Ogden. But the sad reality is only 1% of attorneys are as good as this guy. The rest of them are riding the blueline gang tattoos and T-shirts supporting these cops all the way.
so much for professionalism, theres a life at stake there, and the lawyer is laughing at times, and so is the judge, and so are the visitors on the seats . bravo. -.-
Please tell me you are joking... There is no life at stake here it isn't real so what if they laughed sometimes it was a mock trial. Even the best actors laugh sometimes when doing scenes...
XD I would laugh too! The prosecution was the best guy there "Um My Dog ate my Copy" LOL You could even see the Accused laughing! I'm pretty sure if this was real, the Accused Would not be chuckling as he is.
Even The Prosecution was Intimidated by this guy, and Even Complimented on His Cross Examination! I'm 13 and This video Inspires me All the more to become a Defense Attorney. And I sure hope I can.
This witness is a dim witted guy not accustomed to being in court. Most cops have been there so many times, that they know how to neutralize sneaky lawyer tricks like demanding yes and no for questions. If a lawyer ask you a question, you can answer any way you want and the judge will allow it. This lawyer voiced his opinion and phrased them as questions. A cop would have countered all his leading questions. Like asking if the gun recoiled 15 degrees. That depends on the strength of the person, the experience with firearms, etc. It could recoil any amount due to many factors. What this is about is how lawyers will try to control a witness and the line of opinions , er, I mean questions presented to a witness.
yoyo762 Sorry you cannot answer a question as you wish. A lawyer is absolutely entitled to a yes or no answer in response to a question that calls for ir and anything else will be stricken as "non-responsive" Most cops get destroyed on cross by a quality lawyer.
***** I don't actually know wether cops' attitude to successfully face cross before a well prepared lawyer - like Mr. Orden clearly appeared to be - depends on their IQ. Though in Italy things run pretty differently (not in most serious cases) in almost 13 years of criminal practice i've seen many clever detectives, but nonetheless most of those tough policemen found themselves caught in trouble when they faced a well-prepared lawyer. In my opinion what makes a difference in this video is the emotional impact; Mr. Orden showed how to point the emotional factor against the person who first sold it for the jury's sake. Cross is definitively a matter of "control vs. emotion". It doesn't mean a cross-examiner must forget humanity, but - and this is a pretty good clinic on this field - it must be able to control that by showing to the trier of fact (jury or judge) the dark side of it, the kind of side no witness would easily like to admit. The cop was prepared, but not enough controlled; Mr. Orden was stronger in controlling, and the compelling use of leading questions when the cop tries to get away with compromising answer shows it. Beyond any reasonable doubt. Well done. P.S.: why no objection? Suppose many objections; what would a juror think of a plenty of objections...?
Trial Lawyer New York Actually this mock trial is just that, a mock trial. In most trials today, the attorney must stand at a podium and ask questions. This dance around stuff is not allowed anymore. Second, a seasoned cop can slow a attorney down with requests to repeat questions, clarify questions or just taking time to answer. And don't think PAs won't start objecting just to derail a attorney's line of thought.
yoyo762 I just wanted to sincerely thank you for telling us that this is a mock trial. At approx. 1:45 into watching this video, my mind starts to question things. The laughter, the giddiness of the people sitting in the gallows and most peculiar thing of all; the Judge literally hanging over the side of the barrier that separates him from the accused. I noticed that the JUDGE was smirking or at the very least, was cracking a small but definite smile. (2:00 - 2:08) I started to take notes because the laughter and the general "oddness" continued. By minute 3:00, I was determined to find out the where/what/why of this proceedings and add it to my ever-growing on-going project of compiling a list: Internet Defective Detective Findings. Thank you for sparing me the time I would have wasted doing the research homework on that ;-) Perhaps you might be able to answer a question for me that I have always been dying to know. When a person earns a degree to practice the law, are they obligated to spend a certain period of time practicing as a Defense Attorney before they are eligible to practice as a Prosecuting Lawyer? The reason I ask this is that when I watch court proceedings (such as the Jodi Arias Trial or the John Houser trial) I so often wonder how in the hell can these lawyer's stomach themselves when they look the mirror every morning before they go off to defend some scumbag that clearly isn't innocent? My conscience just couldn't be soothed with the "everyone is innocent until proven guilty" mantra, especially when they are trying cases where it is so obvious that they are defending are truly evil and guilty criminals. I imagine that having a career practicing Law could be quite a rewarding vocation - but if I had to defend people that I knew were dangerous and should not be anywhere but locked in a jail cell, I would imagine that I would be very unhappy & disillusioned with the choice of my vocation.
Eve Barrett-Drew I wonder if your musings at the ethical quandary that defense attorneys might have over defending someone who you deem to be a bad person, apply to prosecutors who attack those who are charged by police with a crime with little or no real evidence they did anything wrong? What about prosecutors trying to jail someone who they really feel is not guilty of what the cops charge them for? Do prosecutors sleep well at night when someone gets 30 years over a crime the prosecutor doesn't genuinely think did the crime? You sound like someone who advocates for the communist system where your defense attorney stands up and incriminates you the best he can.
What's the case? I don't know if I believe this. The guy says he was a Sergeant First Class in the Marine Corps. 6 years you couldn't get to be a SNCO in the Corps but Sergeant First Class is an Army rank.
