@Jacek Marczyk I have always figured that Islam is equally as terrible as all the others at the same point in it's own history (although frankly. I have read all the major books and Islam seems more awful to women to me) but since it's the newest, it hasn't had as much time to mellow out and for it's followers to make justifications for parts they believe in and parts that are "historical and not translated corrected" and other BS like that.
@@jenbcamping I've long thought that, but I'm not sure now if it is inevitable that as religions age they mellow out, or if maybe we just got lucky that Christianity was mellowed out by secularists at the right time. Like, if things had just been slightly different (butterfly effect) maybe Christianity would still be terrible. And if we got lucky with Christianity, what if Muslims never get lucky and Islam is never mellowed out?
@@calebmauer1751 Yikes, well it BETTER chill out, or true liberals better stop clinging so hard to cultural relativism. They're already justifying so many terrible things, like slavery, random violence, and the way almost all women are treated in the Muslim world. They're really going to reach their limit if it is literally kill or be killed all the time. =P I don't think we got "lucky" with Christians though, all religions throughout history have always become less aggressive and more tolerant over time and as they spread.
@@jenbcamping I don't think most liberals justify any of that stuff but you're right, some do defend Islam too much. They are trying to do the right thing to defend people's 1st Amendment right to have their own religious beliefs, they just take it too far if they say that Islam is above criticism. We should absolutely be criticizing all the bad parts of Islam, just as we should criticize any wrong behavior from organized religion. And I think Islam is the most violent religion in the world today, but you have to attack the institution and not the individuals.
I know Salman Rushdie but just got to know about Hitchens. What an intellectual and incredible human. We need 100's of people like these in this world.
a dying man is able to stand on a stage and destroy religion and yet i can barely summon the will to brush my teeth and clean my room. what a legend. rest in peace.
Men In Black That’s absolute rubbish. You must be one of those people that enjoy blaming everyone else for your problems and just love being the victim with a mentality like that.
@Derpy Derpyeah I guess its probably just a phrase used to express a positive sentiment. No one except idiot theists think anyone is literally resting in peace in the grave. Surprised I have to explain remedial shit like colloquialisms to another adult.
iftkhar ahmad because his body will rest peacefully in his grave? How can he be resting if he’s in heaven he’d be fucking supermodels drinking milkshake and going on rollercoasters
@Reina De corazones Dear I'm not a Muslim. And my question was as per our understanding of science that after death human body disintengrates then how it can rest in peace?
Yet I am seen as an internet troll or PC nazi by people when I do!!! In person its even worse, do I care....NO. Have I lost friends yes, people hate the truth when its thrown in their face .....and its facts! lol
Jack O'Connor it always sounds impressive and eloquent in a British accent 😉. But seriously, as a southerner, Trump often says things that hurt the ears, but when swimming in a shark tank, I think, even the best of us would be hard pressed to maintain decorum.
@@mommabear5059 How can you possibly compare the two? Trump is the ultimate expression of stupidity and pettiness. He has said ON CAMERA over 9000 lies. What's the matter with you?
@@harleyb-ham266 Both very powerful addictions, alcohol more than nicotine I believe. Let's not forget that Einstein smoked and never succeeded in giving up.
@@anthonyc9592 When Einstein smoked the medical field had not validated the health issues associated with it. Hitchens had no excuse other than weak or stupid.
The greatest crime of religion is to me, its relentless retardation of civilization. We should be well beyond superstition by now. Well beyond fascism. Well beyond our currently abysmal ignorance. Oh Christopher. How we miss you.
@Tiktaalik Get your facts straight buddy, he died of pneumonia he caught while being treated for cancer. Aside from that, despite his consumption of alcohol he was always sober enough to make logical points during event like these, so he retains my respect.
@Tiktaalik I do not have proper information on these claims at this time, could you politely save me a bit of trouble and cite them? You don't have to if you don't want to, once I'm better informed I'll happily respond to this. And as a footnote I'd like to add that an atheist can't be a religious zealot, given he lacks religion.
His book “God is not great” is intellectually appalling, full of falsehood. Has been taken apart by Academics/Scholars. If you want to learn more about Islam, listen to Timothy Winter. Don’t just judge it how it has been weaponised by regimes, and by reducionlists who lack any nuance like the New Atheists.
Adidas Lover what gives you the right to tell anyone how to remember him by? You'll be pushing up daisies pretty soon too! And I guarantee no god will be greeting you. You'll simply go back to the place you were at before you were born, non-existentance. But anyways, go fuck yourself you piece of trash.
Christopher Hitchens is a arrogant Jew and leading all of you sheep to the hellfire. Allah swt says QURAN 16:22-25 Your god is one God. But those who do not believe in the Hereafter - their hearts are disapproving, and they are arrogant. Assuredly, God knows what they conceal and what they declare. Indeed, He does not like the arrogant. And when it is said to them, "What has your Lord sent down?" They say, "Legends(Fiction) of the former peoples," That they may bear their own burdens in full on the Day of Resurrection and some of the burdens of those whom they misguide without knowledge. Unquestionably, evil is that which they bear.
its nice to know that a leftist can attack religions other that christianity i think that we should look into as many religions as we have time for to toss out the bad & accept the good
Life is very short, believe in GOds final messenger Muhammad(SAW) who calls you to success. Or you can follow arrogant Jews like Hitchens who call you to destruction. There is tons of evidence for the Creator.
Tiktaalik wow you came to a comment celebrating his mastery of the English language to a) make an obviously false statement (that 99% of what he had to say was about Bush and Iraq - of course it wasn’t), and b) state that because you disagree with him on an issue you are glad he is dead. Classy.
One person's rationality is NOT another person's bigotry. They are distinctly in OPPOSITION to each other. "Rationality" describes thinking based on reason and logic. Both reason and logic can be faulty but then a person is not thinking rationally. Rationality MEANS correct use of logic and reason. Bigotry is a demonstration of the OPPOSITE. Your pathetic claim would be similar to a rancid fart expelled in public, but in all caps like that, it catches the attention a bit more like an expanding brown stain on the seat of white pants.
Phil C What you call rational led to the destruction of so many innocent lives in Iraq and hell being unleashed throughout much of the ME. But it's all good since he hated Muslims. Httchens is the only person I saw that was stupid enough to never give up on the WMD fairy tale well after it was proven a hoax. He died still pushing the WMD myth. He was a fundie.
Matt G It was a fucking aggressive war. The consequences of such a war were know before the unprovoked attack, If you actually think the US Government gave a shit about the Kurds, you don't have any understanding of Washington DC. The US was the nation that assisted Saddam in acquiring and using the chemical weapons in the first place, to be used against Iran in Iraq's aggressive war against Iran. What's happening now is the US is/was helping Sunni jihadists to overthrow Syria's secular government, with tragic consequences for the Syrian people. Fortunately Russia, Iran, and Hezbollah helped save Syria from being put under the Sunni version of Islamic law and they prevented the extermination of Shiites and Christians. The US flooded Syria with weapons which were used by Al Qaeda and ISIS to cause great havoc. The US Government is the world's number one supporter of dictators, and the US supports the worst nations in the ME, including Israel and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is a nation that actually lives up to the negative stereotypes.
@@crookedpaths6612 I'm shocked, it was painful to learn that he was a lier, because of his state in islam he is immune to criticism or even questioning what he taught and claimed
FreeMind931 You should watch Pat Condell, he started his channel in 2007. He is hilarious,smart, the lot! You should watch his videos on Christianity and Islam
This man was a legend. As a public intellectual, Hitchens will be remembered well. Rest in peace, sir. Thank you for all the work you did to enlighten Man -- your light continues to shine!
@Tiktaalik Then they never should have attacked Americans and killed over 3,000 of the American People! If you attack, why would you expect no retaliation? 🤔
It warms my heart when I read in the comments of one-time Muslims freeing themselves from the shackles of Islam. We can be good to each other without religion, of any stripe. Islam is arguably more difficult to disassociate from, and I have enormous respect for anyone who has bravely taken that step.
Atheism and Islam are similar...No Son for redemption, Jesus, The Way, Truth and Life......The deception of any religion..godless or not is the denial of The Only begotten Son of God...Jesus as your Redeemer...in the flesh.....Life is short...as Hitch learned the hard way....I am sure your respect will make his life better!!...He is still lost as you! Being frank because I care for all to be found on their last day...Hitch didn't! ........James of Ireland...Jesus is the Redeemer for all who come to Him as Saviour with Faith in His works and death and resurrection into Life!
I grow up in a Muslim country and religious family. I understand how religion cause terrible things and poisons you in an early age. While researching other religions other than Islam I found Dawkins Hitchens and others. They increased my understanding of religions and beliefs. Now as a someone who study science, I try to do thing to my county what Hitchens do to the world. Educate people about how religion affects people badly. I hope I can help people like he helped me. I just wanted to share this with you as a ex-muslim. There is still hope.
@@LeoWang28My friends know that I'm an atheist. I haven't told my parent yet because my mother is very religious. It will upset her when I tell her this unfortunately. But there are a lot of families that they will disown you if they hear it. I'm in Turkey right now. Situation Isn't that bad compared to the Egypt or Saudi Arabia. But still it's mostly Muslim country. Most of them are not well educated or aware of other ideologies and some of them are angry. You dont want to met with this angry ones. And there is a guy up top(if you talk bad about him. He puts you in jail.no I'm not joking) who fucks the country in every way possible( mostly by religion). Tl;dr you can say you're an atheist but dont say it too loud
torino 390 Reading through your comment demonstrate how ignorant you are about Islam.The Quran explicitly forbid hatred,subjugation of,or forcible imposition of religion on any person or people,the Quran says"THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION."Quran 2:256.This is also what the Quran says "O HUMANKIND ,WE CREATED YOU FROM A MALE AND FEMALE,AND MADE YOU INTO NATIONS AND TRIBES THAT YOU MAY COME TO KNOW EACH OTHER.."QURAN 49:13.Anyone is free to leave Islam,Islam doesn't give a damn.Do you think we have nothing better to do?Do you think 1.7 billion people only adhere to Islam because of fear?
It's said that a person dies twice. The first time when someone stop breathing, and the second time when their name is spoken for the last time. May Christopher Hitchens live for many decades to come.
@Kali Southpaw "generations" can mean "a long time" or "not so long". A generation is "all of the people born and living at about the same time, regarded collectively". It can also be described as, "the average period, generally considered to be about thirty years, during which children are born and grow up, become adults, and begin to have children of their own". 2 generations could still be considered "generations", and from the latter description it would be a measly 60 years.
Not a loss but a gain. Every valid point he made is still there and as valid as when it was made. Hitchens physical presence is not required to carry on his legacy. The point of a teacher isn't to do the work for you, but rather to teach you how to do the work required.
Citadin I don’t agree. He was brilliant with and without the bottle. The fact that his drinking could coexist with his writing career is a testament to his God-given talent.
@@pam0626 haha, he sould be turning in his grave if you'd told him that his talent was "God-given", especially if you use the capital G! Hitchens was a smart debater and polemicist, but hi moral compass and judgment were astray. The early 00s was the heyday of neoliberalism and neocon thinking, those ideologies have since been exposed as frauds, they are unfit to describe the real problems we face today, they are instead the ideologies spread by our rulers and oligarchs to keep us mired in forever wars for Israel abroad and open border neoliberalism which is crushing the middle class at home. Hitchens is irrelevant today (Christopher that is, his older brother has a fine moral compass).
I here you, but at least he's left quite a legacy of books (which have an added benefit of usually enhancing one's vocabulary- he is by NO means an easy read, as you might well imagine), as well as all of these great videos. As a person, though, he of course will remain sorely missed.
Johnny Casteel Sorry,pal,he is still with us with his hundreds of video clips. His corpse rots ( or has been burned )but his creed/ mind lives in our everyday experience.
His absolute dismissal of the concept of blasphemy has just been implemented in my country... A 150 year old Blasphemy legislation has been discarded ... Denmark I’m proud.
Spirituality always weakens though time. Abraham sat down with God face-to-face while later in time, Moses had to avert his gaze into the cleft of a rock when the Lord passed by. Jesus called us out to love our enemies. Now our own American Empire can make the world a wasteland. There are three stages of spirituality in ancient Sumer: 1. The gods rule 2. The gods rule through me 3. I RULE !!!
I didn't say there wasn't. Merely remarking at how profound the statement was because if we look at the history of religions, his statement becomes obviously true. Is this an indictment of the founders or teachings of the religion? No, it is an observation of how some choose to behave in the name of their particular religion.
The only peaceful aspect in Islam is when adherents choose not to follow or are ignorant of the examples of their prophet. Thankfully, billions choose this route.
Ah so its all Britain's fault, what a simplistic view you take, all Religions poison the very people they claim to nourish, Jews, Christians, lay Christians Hindu, Muslim have all fallen into this trap, all have blood on their hands, so save me the history lesson on blame. You appear an intelligent person, but do not be blinded by the atrocities of a few, and you now bestow great faith in one of the most divisive religions present today. That to me is neither progress on a humanitarian level or spiritual. A Religion hyjacked by a few does the masses a huge disservice' Learn the lessons of peace, understanding and humility.
You are dead wrong. Your knowledge of world history is minuscule. Citation from you - "From the time Prophet Mohammad was born until today all muslims put together have not committed 2% of the atrocities of the second world war forget the rest of countless other massive atrocities that has been committed by white skin westerns in the 20th & 21st centuries" It is a blatant lie. Muslim conquest killed ca 250 million all over the world, 80 million in Indian subcontinent alone. You probably do not know this, most Europeans do not know this, I do. Try some research on internet on muslim conquest of India. They did it (mass murder) by sword, not atomic bomb. Atomic bomb is faceless and do not feel the suffering of an individual. Muslims in India killing at close distance were immune to human feelings? Looking into human face and cutting throats like today's terrorists? . Enough of the historical corrections. I am not a supporter of any imperialism, be it western or muslim. I do not want to ponder what wrongs your or my ancestors did. Now we live in 21 century and it is time to put the thick veil (sic!) on terrible past, both western and eastern. I can't forget thousands of boys from my country kidnapped by Ottoman Turks to become janissaries, but I can forgive. Can you do something similar? We all know the past was atrocious. Do you want our future to be the same as the past?. I DO NOT.
Apocryphal story... A NATO conference / exercise, officers from multiple nations are talking, including a Turkish officer. The Armenian Genocide comes up, the Turkish officer says: "It never happened! Besides, they deserved it."
I am an Armenian and that's just tip of the iceberg.Mullahs were going villages inciting Muslims to kill Christens mostly Armenians Greeks Assyrians so they can get better rewards in heaven.Barbarity committed by Turks is on astonishing level why Raphal Lemkin coined the phrase genocide after Armenians.
don't need to have known him personally to miss his presence as his present did have an impact and his insight was often compelling as well as entertaining... So it's perfectly fine to miss him
Sadly, yes, he died of esophageal cancer, probably caused by a combination of smoking, alcohol, and genetics. He actually wrote about it in Vanity Fair (www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/09/hitchens-201009), and in his last book, "Mortality" (www.amazon.com/Mortality-Christopher-Hitchens/dp/1455502766).
I got to meet him and talk with him for 15 minutes one on one when I didn't even know who he was and that is how I found out about him. You are correct. He was an amazingly bright and kind man and I wish he was still here. God! (Ha! / figure of speech) to hear what he would say about Trump or #MeToo or any of the stuff that has happened since his passing) I really wish he was still here.
VLD you are a bible type and would do well to listen to Jesus' words "how you treat the least of my brethren is how you treat me." So you are, in effect, being mean and snarky to Jesus. That won't look good come judgement day. Ha! Also remember WWJD? Jesus wouldn't be mean to Hitchens. And if God really does exist, you don't have to defend Him. We are but insects, or even mere atoms to God. He doesn't need our protection. Its the same as trying to protect the sky and the stars. Whether people believe in them or not, they are still there. If God exists, God will exist regardless of any naysayers. And if God doesn't exist, He will not exist no matter how many people choose to believe that He does. Be kind. You don't make Christianity look good when you are not. You just give us heathens another reason to hate Christianity. Well actually, you mean types are the main reason we hate it.
You are dearly missed Mr. Hitchens. You, along with a few other scholars and true intellectuals rang the alarm bells early enough that western civilization may just survive. Thank you.
As a Greek person i concur, having to live next to a country that Constantly threatens to destroy us (Greeks) with war, and take back (like a new Ottoman Empire) our islands and throw us in the sea, as Erdoğan recently said publicly (always with the "help" of Allah). He is co-governing with ultra-nationalists and religious fanatics. Yes what a "nice" and "democratic" country to live... PS: Thousands of Turkish people have silently moved in Greece, to avoid persecution or accusations of being Gulenists and thrown in prison or worse. I have nothing against Turkish people and believe we can live peacefully in this little corner of the world...
@Cuntboy McCuntface exactly, the EU is a globalist hellhole that's sucking the blood out of European middle classes. Turkey is much better off staying out, look at poor Greece being enslaved by the EU banksters...
@musket, no, you're too brainwashed to understand there'll never be peace - because Islam will do what ALL religions have ever done in the history of the world. Evolve and change. Denominations of it will emerge and spread, causing untold violence as people argue who is the true Muslim and who is interpreting scripture correctly.
@@johnbrowne3950 says the guy that's only nice because the pedophiles in dresses said the old man in the sky will get mad. Where's your data on pathetic atheists anyway?
@@ramzy7330 Assuming Phil is a Muslim AND utilizing taquiya, then his statement about Ramaddam is FALSE. If not, Ricky Gervais was right all along. Can't trust any of them.
@Tiktaalik What's not to trust? He makes no demands nor factually incorrect statements. You can embrace or reject his opinions. Trust is not at play here.
I met Christopher Hitchens with my friend and was able to talk with him, just the three of us for about 15 minutes before a book reading he was giving in Berkeley on his book about Kissinger. We were the only three on the second floor of the bookstore at the time. I had no idea who he was when I first met him. My friend and I just happened to be upstairs looking for a certain book on spirituality and for reasons unbeknownst to us at that time, yet soon to be revealed, the whole movable bookshelves spirituality section of the bookstore had been cleared out to make way for a talk by someone who wrote a book. So we stayed around to see who this person was, who had ruined our spirituality book shopping experience, and it turned out to be Christopher Hitchens, and so we asked him what books he had written and why he was there and he was very gracious and informative and very very nice. He didn't talk down to us and was very earnest and informative and was exactly as you see him on tv. Although I don't agree with all of his positions, I agree with most, and am so glad I had the chance to meet him and wish he was still here. He was one of the rare people who is most able to suspend emotionality and look at things from a wholly logical perspective and he was also always prepared to speak his truth regardless of who disagreed. We need more people like him. RIP Christopher Hitchens.
What?! According to the TV here in America, Iranians are incapable of love. Your a bunch of blood thirsty monsters foaming at the mouth over your hatred for our freedom! : ) peace brother.
any iranian here trying to defend the regime or islam itself is no true iranian! the israelites deserve their land just as the Iranics and Hends deserve theirs. this the opinion of a persian; the islamic regime are murderers and terrorists, no better than the saudis they fight.
Turkey is doing OK, it's got a very bright future as a key cog in China's Belt and Road/Silk Road infrastructure. China will be twice as rich as the next largest economy within our lifetimes.
@@themsmloveswar3985 same with the rulers of Saudi and Iran, their kind of rigid islamic theocracy is turning off a lot of the youth in those countries. These regimes were propped up by the deep state, even the ayatollahs in Iran, which were allied with Reagan. Khomeini was groomed in London and sheltered in France. Historically, muslim societies were far more liberal, even in the middle ages.
Yes its horrible to see how easy it is to sway people to a conviction that they should be swayed by a strong man.. just look at USA - the boy child throwing tran trums in public space and putting shame on the western democratic goverments.. turkey is sliding fast - can USA prevent the religion to infiltrate everyday life..
It seems to me that many Christian fascists in the US desperately want religion to infiltrate everyday life - provided it is their religion of course. See Sessions quoting Romans to justify mistreatment of immigrant children in the name of the law/authorities. I don't expect the US to make a stand for secularism any time soon- they are going backwards and positively want to turn the clocks back. Ironically the nation was founded by people seeking to escape religious intolerance and persecution....
Every muslim should open their mind just enough to sit through this presentation and simply listen before they stamp their feet in denial. Simply the best, may he R.I.P.
Yes force those whose ideas you dont like to watch an entitled, drunken bully humiliate people like them. If they stamp their feet you should show them vids of hitchkins explaining that the largest army in the world needs to invade countries like theirs to open their minds and save them from denial. If they wont simply listen you should show them photos of people like them standing on stools, sacks over their heads, clutching wires in outstretched hands. With hitchkins explaining how civilised that was. Simply a warmonger, he's B.O.D. (Better off Dead)
Who here miss Christopher Hitchens? I certainly fucking do. I admit, too, that I get a little emotional every time I watch (Again, for the millionth time) one of his videos.
Yes, Hitchens is gone sadly but now, there's a better speaker with much more in depth knowledge. I watch him pretty much every night. His name is Joseph Prince. I recommend you watch him!
I didn't always agree with him, but I always respected his mind. Every time I either heard him speak or read something by him, I always came away with a new perspective. I miss him a lot. Words don't do him justice.
I was lucky enough to meet Chistopher Hitchens in 2005 after my 7 years in the Marines, and he educated me so well, a long with others. That was before UB turned into a kneeling for Islam dump!! Hitchens spoke of the FACTS of how religion is dangerous, and how Islam is the most dangerous.
I just love to listen to this man talk, sucks i discovered him after his passing but he is missed n id love to hear his take on the current state of things, would be gold
My birth father, though I love him, is bat-shit at being a father. Christopher Hitchen has been more a mentor and fatherly figure than my father ever was. I wish Hitchen were still alive. You're still very much missed.
@Prowler Camhis wisdom and his talent are contageous. The more you read him and watch and listen to him, the more of "Hitchens Dose" coming into your veins.
I try everyday but always fall woefully short. Great sentiment though! I only wish I had anywhere close to his vast knowledge of many topics. I can tell you the size of all of the nuts and bolts on a 1972 White 4000!
@Prowler Cam “It is spiritless to think that you cannot attain to that which you have seen and heard the masters attain. The masters are men. You are also a man. If you think that you will be inferior in doing something, you will be on that road very soon.” ― Tsunetomo Yamamoto, Hagakure
not at all but he wasnt too good for this world he was just right,how was he too good for this world,what would make you make such foolish statements.i loved hitchens as much as the next athiest,but would never presume such foolish aspirations!just what world would be worthy of his prescence?
Since 2014, I stopped believing in god and Islam- the religion I used to embeded by the family I was born. However, there were reasons for doing which I have found by his articulate talks. As a consequence, I am a proud humanist/ liberal/ atheist person who love 'Peace' through music and nature. Indeed Hitchens has said incredible point of views that are 100% legit. I do salute him for his effort in terms of flourishing the true light towards the world. Mother Earth needs people like Richard Dawkins, Stephen Fry and Hitchens. ☮🕯
"What makes you think this is your country?" chuckle from the audience scares me more than the statement itself. Oh and my response to the answer chowdry creature spewed is "Try taking it from us". I am very easy going and appreciate what the UK has done for me like education, free health care, safety net in hard time, streets that relatively safe to stroll down, Democracy, the freedom to have your own life without much intrusion from State or Church and most importantly the equal rights all citizens have regardless of religion, colour etc etc etc . However I cannot understand people who arrive wanting everything and hating the country that is welcoming them. The UK needs to firmly and without violence stop this, I do not know how, but it needs to be stopped. The appeasement tactics do not seem to be working.
Sylvester Stone The police and the establishment are in on it. The courts, the lawyers, the politicians. This stems further, our police, our teachers, our media. The irony is that the country is simultaneously degrading in to a duopoly of Leftist/Islamic totalitarian country. These two things should not be on the same side. Hence the defeat of the Labour Party. Our people (for now) want to renationalise- we want Islam out- but Fuhrer Merkel invited them all in.
I miss Hitch everyday ❤ his intelligence, wit, humour, perfect command of English, debate skills, confidence. The world is so much poorer for his passing. How lucky we were to have had him ⚘️
I cried as I read the hundreds of comments. Hitch we miss you! The greatest intellect of the age! Make Hitch a prophet! Don't miss Hitchens, become Hitchens! If there was a god Hitchens would be a gift from it! We need you now more than ever! Has anyone been so valued for his honesty and courage? Because of Christopher Hitchens I am proud to be British and for no other reason.
350 years ago, there was another fellow who was just as courageous or even more so. Baruch de Spinoza, a Jew from Amsterdam. The American Constitution was mainly based on his book, TTP. Not a Brit, but a Dutchman.
Douglas Murray is doing a pretty good job at keeping the touch burning I found Hitchens many years ago when I was a teenager and hanging around with a lot of U.K. black Muslims which in that time early 90s were more based on the American Nation of Islam than the Arab version and with whole I learned a great deal about Islam all this before 9/11 and during my research I found Hitchens and made a lot of the same conclusions with which I discussed with my friends. We used to spend hours on end discussing my findings suspicions and never once did any of us fall out or even get angry even tho I was adamant in views of the Truly tyrannical nature of the book and teachings. Strangely we are all still great friends today and my views haven’t changed rather intensified and we still occasionally have long deep talks about the problems which especially now are more relevant. When people can with comfort openly discuss all aspects of a subject without the fear of offending progress can be made.
I recommend his book God is not Great. He really skewers the insanity of religion with very good arguments especially the abrahamic faith and old testament. He is very ill with esophageal cancer which eventually killed him in this video.
b Campbell, Thomas Jefferson had 850 slaves! Na dforced himslef on an innocent 14 year old child. And went on to gave 6 children and forced her to remain silent. What sort of human could such a person be? What he did and said hence is below human dignity and standards never to be cited.
My opinion of his best point was when Mr. Hitchens spoke about The word "total", as in totalitarianism. This is the major objection all democracies must have with Islam.... Islam is completely incompatible with democracy.. end of story...
Which was true about Christianity, too, until Christians decided it was worth the effort to see things another way. The Kaiser and the Tsar explicitly proclaimed they were the last kings on Earth truly honoring God's will. Such claims were the norm in 1814. Less so in 1914, but it was still an honored Christian concept. Until Christians as a whole were willing to give up fighting for the inerrancy of their particular interpretation of the Bible, the politics of religious sects within Christianity incessantly intertwining themselves with the promotion of warfare was simply normal. It may be true that Islam has a specific high hurdle, insofar as the Quran implies that the civil law and religious law is connected. If Muslims are willing to give that up, reform is perfectly possible.
Edward Harley, R U aware: Christopher was at one time (as was his brother, Peter - when younger), a Trotskyite. Christopher Hitchens may not have liked the Clintons but he supported the Neo-Conservatives*** And the invasion of Iraq in 2003. *** Ironically, or maybe not, the … founders of the Neoconservative movement (Irving Kristol and his son William Kristol) were also Trotskyites. Trotsky wanted to create Marxist revolutions all over the world. He and Stalin were in opposition (Stalin wanted to concentrate on modernizing Russia/Soviet Union). Eventually, Trotsky was assassinated. The so-called "cultural Marxists" (of the New School in Frankfurt Germany) took Trotsky's ideas further, the KGB followed in its war against the West.
"Don't deny Turkey entry into the EU because they're a Muslim majority country" This said in 2016, as Turkey was still(and is still) blackmailing Europe with the threat of passing unchecked hordes of Islamic extremists onto European shores.
TK Mondavi, Considering Hitchens looks like a disease ridden cancerous dying rotting carcass in the video, Id have thought Atheists would be a bit more touchy about using words like 'POISONS.' But oh well, that's Atheists for you I spose.
Is that the best you can come up with? Give me an intelligent argument, not this juvenile nonsense. You know that Islam is a cult of death that represses people, especially women, stifles freedom of thought, hates this life, and hasn't contributed any new technologies to advance humanity in the last 1000 years. It was created over 2000 years ago by an ILLITERATE misogynist merchant without any knowledge of any of the sciences and who claims to have spoken to the fictional angel gabriel (who just happened to speak arabic) and was eventually flown off to paradise on a WINGED HORSE no less, and a species which archaeology has never found any proof of. Use your critical thinking skills and question the nonsense that's in the koran (which by the way was plagiarized from the torah and christian bibles) and the hadiths (of which they were originally over 5000). The fact of the matter is, if there was any scientific proof of any god(s), religions and religious people WOULDN'T NEED FAITH! If you'd like a real history of islam, read " IN THE SHADOW OF THE SWORD" by Tom Holland. Oh, I forgot, your religion won't permit you read anything that would cause you to think. So put on your burka, grab that AK47, plant your IED's, and strap on that suicide vest and prepare to meet that man-made supernatural fictional god in the sky on your winged horse no less!!!!
TK Mondavi, you want scientific proof of God? LOOOL What is your definition of Scientific evidence... do you want the evidence in the form of classical mechanic or Quantum mechanic?
Talk is cheap. So here's the proof I'll accept to prove the existence of your god or any god. Go to any Veterans Hospital in any part of the world and call forth your god and have him regrow the missing limbs on those injured religious soldiers and record it for all the world to see your all-powerful and omnipotent deity in action. If your god does that, I'll convert to Islam or any religion of your choosing. Fair enough? And don't give me a bunch of excuses like the standard cop out "god works in mysterious ways" bullshit. So let's put your faith into action, what hospital will it be? It's time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP Aisha!!!!!!!!
Yes, perhaps 'weapons of mass destruction' weren't impossible but you did demand we believed in them chris in spite of any real evidence. And didn't you then push the myth of peaceful outcomes , once we'd killed Saddam and all ? Good to see you learned something chris, albeit a bit late for all those other dead people. And not much help for those still dying. Perhaps better to define 'the impossible' ? Something like 'violently forcing your ideology on others will make the world a better place' , see Democracy, Islam, Communism etc for pertinent examples.
But atheism does not demand that you believe in the impossible... so I don't see your point. Mr Hitchens was referring to the implicit Islamic tenet that Mohammed and the Koran are PERFECT and therefore cannot be criticised, undermined or revised. He was pointing out that any objection to this is heresy and heresy would result in conflict of some description. But that comes directly from theism, whereas any unpeaceful outcome from atheism is simply a result of being in opposition to theism.
He disbelieved in the soul. Nothing for him to have peace upon. PS Do Iraqis think that Iranian or Israeli souls are as precious as theirs? I think not. Stop whining.
polemeros Not whining babe, yes I do believe that all humans lives are precious. I bet I have more Iranian and Israeli friends than you, if you even have friends.
Kardo Sevi Kardo, I do not want you to feel that way. I am from Washington DC. In the late 60s, many people from Iraq and Iran moved here and became a wonderful part of the DC area
When I was "new" to my atheism, I was constantly referring to this guy to fight off conservatives. Now I find myself referring to him to fight off liberals. What the fuck happened.
Travisaurus Rex exact same experience. I now try to do what Hitch would do: read and inquire into the topic as much possible, and make up one’s own mind
Brilliant Man, knew him back in Washington D.C in 1988, drank many cups of coffee and had many conversations with him. What an honour and privilege. I wish he was here today, thankyou Christopher 🌹🌹🌹
Since Hitchens died six years ago criticism of Islam has become all but outlawed in the West. Hitchens was an equal opportunity critic. Now the same atheists who bash Christianity give Islam a pass. And I really don't know why.
I believe it's the pressure from the left post-modern propaganda machine who're using the Islamophobia train to unite the seemingly oppressed to band together against Western civilization (patriarchy). How else do you explain the self-destructive nature of LGTB and feminist movements with Islam?
"How else do you explain the self-destructive nature of LGTB and feminist movements with Islam?" What are you talking about? How are people pushing for individual rights currently trampled on by Islam somehow self-destructive? Were the American revolutionaries self-destructive? They're much more courageous and righteous than you, spouting ignorance on RU-vid. The left has a point (although many stupid people mistake it and use it toward their own selfish ends) - the first amendment is quite explicit, and we should all take heed and avoid banning religions. We have freedom of speech and freedom of thought and it seems you didn't watch the video or you'd understand that a bit better. I don't know any atheists who give Islam a pass. They do however defend Islam against the disproportionate and fallacious attacks from Christians who wish to ban or persecute people for having a different religion than them. How sad that they don't see they're tying a noose for themselves... all it takes is for some "Christians" to start killing people and suddenly Christianity is a scourge again (it has been countless times in the past so that would be nothing new). Western civilization and patriarchy are not synonymous. I hope I've answered your questions.
INSERT HUMANITY - I think the point was referring to the pathetic double-standards that those on the progressive left have in regards to criticising Christianity but not Islam when Islam is undeniably worse for oppressing the very people they purport to defend. Many "progressive" feminists hate Christianity, but they defend Islam. The irony is fucking astounding.
Haha uhhh on that.... "I've never met such a person". Not many people dare criticise Islam because of Political Correctness bullshit but *anyone* can criticise Christianity because it's a safe target. So, I really don't know who you're referring to.
When I think I'm about to sink into despair at the human condition I listen to hitch. It gives me at least a small hope that we can produce people like him occasionally.
@@vinnothelizard but hard to understand. He uses jargons and mainly address highly educated audience, however I could manage to pick up something from his speeches. May be it is easier to read some of his books.
Matthew Cooper He meant to say that because non muslim people make mistakes, Islam is not to be criticized until we can prevent all mistakes. He also meant to say that he has perfect knowledge about the consequences of the Iraq war and that statistics have no value in the search for truth and that the Iraq war was objectively a mistake that made the world a worse place. The main problem with that should be obvious. Learning is a western value and it should be a universal one.
isn't that what you'e doing here, internalizing and regurgitating a neocon antimuslim mantra that is repeated ad nauseum in comment sections like these?
