I bought my 590 back in 2019 on sale for 300 it was a work horse for me for going on 5 years and I just recently did a muffler mod and put a 27” echo pro bar and de restricted the carb and properly tuned it it’s like a totally different saw I can’t wait to port it in the future love your videos man appreciate the inspiration from you among others you’re awesome
ive always been a stihl guy but my echo cs 590 is one of the best saws ive ever owned!! I run a 24" bar with a skip tooth & it eats through the wood!! only issue ive had is the oil pump went out recently easy cheap part to replace echo way more cheaper then stihl
Still loving the absolute hell out of my 590 after 6 months of beating the ever living crap out of it. Did a muffler mod and popped the limiters after break in, she hasn’t struggled a bit. For $400, it simply can’t be beat
Your intentions for the 400i seems to be that all around saw for you, and that is what my 565 is to me, best saw purchase I ever made. I really hope u warm up to that Stihl 400i and feel the same as I do about my saw this time next year.. I think once broke in and you are used to the way it works , you will be happy with that saw.
That’s why I like my 620p. It’s a good torque/hp character. I run a 27" b/c all day on it. I have a couple 5 series Husky saws, 572 and 550. I had to adjust how I cut with the 572 had to let it cut vs dogging it in. Ended up getting dyno joe to port it etc… and he upped the low rpm torque; now I can dog the saw no problem. Dyno joe made my 572 the saw I wanted it to be when I bought it… I do recommend people with the mtronic and Autotune saws get the firmware updated from time to time.
@@dmc8981 he just compared a $750 saw to a $400 saw that only runs 4 seconds slower out of a whole minute of cutting. Your smoked out. Japan is known world wide for their quality craftsmanship.
I used my echo cs400 for a decade before I bought a 620. I've had the 620 for 3 years or so and I'm still amazed every time I sink it into some wood. My 400 is muffler modded and it helped that saw a lot. I have had absolutely no need to make the 620 any faster than stock.
Second comment.. Having ran a 460 rancher immediately before my 620, you are 110% correct. Not even in the same league even though the price is neck and neck. I've loved every husky i've touched.. as long as it wasn't a 400 series. I hated the 435 and 450 i ran too.
I’ve been saying the same thing for a couple years now. For the money the CS 590 is by far the best saw for the money. You just can’t beat it for $400!
One thing I like about the 590/620 series is that aforementioned torque. I am currently cutting a lot of "medium" sized wood destined for firewood sales (think oak, hickory, maple, and poplar mostly 20" and under) and there is enough grunt there to run an 8 tooth sprocket. So i'm getting the chain speed of a higher revving saw but the engine speed is not way out in left field. It absolutely reaps the souls of the limbs. If I know i'm going to be doing bigger wood the sprocket is my bag and a very quick swap. Honestly though I've not had the 7 back on since I tried the 8.
It's not a powerhouse by today's standards anymore, but I should let you saw with my Homelite C51. If you're man enough to carry it to the wood, it will cut it. Really like your videos and enjoy seeing you put such a variety of saws to work.
@@danquirke443 My cousin has a wild thing that I put together out of two saws. One was fried,and the other had a tree dropped on it. I put that saw together eighteen years ago. It has been punished for existing all these years, but I wouldn't put it in an Amish man's hands and send him away with it. That's what I'm saying. They used Jonsered, Husqvarna, and Stihl. One to two years. That's what they lasted.
You forgot to mention the MS 310 it is a 60 cc chainsaw stock with a 20-in bar with a couple tunes on these these things really fly and have a pretty decent amount of torque. I also have the MS 381 Magnum into 72cc saw which is a tank it has torque and speed ported with muffler mod 25" bar Skip full chisel chain.
New to saw world and I started out with a Mikita/Dolmar ea5600. I'm just wondering for perspective how far back am I from this class of saws? I was tempted into getting a 7900 next but with news of Mikita dropping the gas line I'm not sure I want to jump into something loosing support.
I also have no idea about that 400 but I've witnessed in person and seen on video how an ms500i just wakes up all of the sudden😯 to the extreme that surely it has to change fuel and ignition trims? Wouldn't be surprised if your 400 doesn't do the same after enough run time!
I wasn't super impressed with my 400 until I cut about a 6 cord of firewood with it. My buddies 391 out ran it when i first got it. Granted it did have the stupid safety chain on it. But even my buddy noticed when it broke in, mainly because it seemed to get louder and rev higher, and now he says he wants my 400 if I die.
I got several new saws for our firewood business this year the ms400cm will mop the 620pw we have ,hands down .The 400 is lighter, faster it will out cut the 620pw the echo has the 24" and the stihl has the 25" .
I run the Sthil light bars and the ES bars on my saws and I'm starting to wonder if some of the oiling problems might be coming from the smaller angled oil hole in the light bars. Seems to me I get more oil under the clutch cover when I run light bars. As far as the 400, I think I'll stick to my 462. Still wondering what their thought was for the 400, maybe they should have made it a 400i.
My Tsumura LW bars seem to oil better than any of my Stihl bars, LW or not. Tsumura’s seem to be a bit more rigid, and a few ounces heavier than the Stihl LW.
$250 plus MSRP for a 590... puts you right at the cost of a 620. I'd have gone with the 620, and had a saw with a 5 yr warranty. All those mods to the 590 void the warranty. Of course, since you got the 590 used, that's not an issue. I got a 590 used, too for $200. It needed a new bar, so I have $250 invested in it.
Gonna say that considering the 400 is 7cc or so more, you would expect it to win. People saying both ported the stihl will be miles ahead, I'm not convinced the echo's tend to gain more when ported so will be similar. The 400 is expensive for what it is, what's the weight like compared?
Why to play with tilting the saw if your bar is long enough to cut this diameter. This is basically when all the difference is coming from. Less chain contact with wood - slower the overall cut. It compensates by higher rpm, but not 100%
Maybe, don’t know anything about the 400 but my 30yr old 34 super outruns my new 620 by quite a bit. Both completely stock. Hoping gutting the muffler and a little break in will help but that old stihl has always been a beast of a little saw. 🤷🏽♂️
Don’t think it would change much carb itself looks like the same series but not sure about internal changes. Would have to look at the flywheel part numbers, coil numbers and carb number to find out. May very well be the same parts since the 400 was designed off the 362. Might have to get one of the tree service 362 mtronics and compare with my 400
@@christopherlehman4045 I think the flywheel and coil on the 400 are different than the ones on the 362. otherwise, I don't don't know anything about the 400. thanks.
Was always my experience that a Stihl will never improve but very little over the first tank of gas, and that is not to say that they aren't good right off the shelf, but the other brands will transform into another beast of a saw in about a gallon of gas... just my useless opinion.. I really like the 550xp M2 if you convert it to 3/8 chain they will smoke most any 60cc saw.....but they are autotune.
You are not convincing, you don't like stihl saws. Just say so. At least be honest. I respect the fact that you acknowledge that this series you have been doing lately is bringing the views. Keep up the hard work dude. Be safe.
The only thing I have against Stihl saws is that in general, they are not as good as their Husqvarna or Dolmar counterpart and they have convinced the world exactly the opposite. That's it really. They are a high quality machine that will last just as long as a Husky, but they're just not for me. But the MS400...yes, yes I actually do REALLY like it. Although so far, it isn't anything special.
Most people who dislike stihl is down to the direction of the off switch in my opinion. I love stihl but I agree it is counterintuitive. My 280 cbqi has off in up position which you get used to but o would say down should be correct direction. However it isnt every what i use in quickly for that the break is the most important and they all work teh same. I love the off on my 500i and the husky 592xpg. The small 2511 wes echo is also one which arches me out I often forget to put the off switch forward again and wonder why it doesn't start.
Stihl is every bit as good as the husky counterpart, not always about all out speed but durability and from what I’m seeing some of the 5 series huskies aren’t doing that great the 3 series huskies were better saws overall in my opinion from what I’ve seen so far and dolmar was good but is no longer so they’re kinda out of the conversation
Stihl and Husky are pricing themselves out the game. Im. sure there are enough "pros" to keep paying 1,300$ to keep them going but they better watch out.
There seems to be an American obsession to run a bar a lot longer than what the manufacturer recommends and then you state “oh the saw doesn’t perform so well”. I don’t understand why you’re surprised. Simple, buy the right tool for the job if need a 36” bar buy a Stihl MS 661. Don’t modify anything you’ll void your warranty for negligible gains.
Guess I’m Not understanding why you want to promote sthil 😂send that thing down the rd. 🫣ford lightning is a race car. 😅 elcameno was more of a truck 😂
