Stihl MS500i Fuel Injected: Is It Really Worth The Hype??

Simeon & Alex - formerly Swedish Homestead

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The world's first saw without a carburetor is here. Meet the Stihl MS500i. The "i" stands for innovation and injection. The acceleration is extremely fast and the power to weight ratio is amazing. Watch our review of this high-tech saw. Here is the link to the video about the Swedish Iron Horse: • Swedish Iron Horse: Is...
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@hughbrackett343 5 лет назад

I've had a chainsaw without a carburetor for years. I really should rebuild the carb and put it back on.

@techedfireman4981 5 лет назад

:-D

@gibbyrockerhunter 5 лет назад

You made me laugh. Thanks Hough

@RolandElliottFirstG 5 лет назад

I have a leaf blower without a Carb as well, its works fine, as long as i plug it in.

@dougcarter1924 5 лет назад

DIRT and dust will destroy this machine.

@stuartluig2911 5 лет назад

Lol, the first time i read it i didnt get it, then i read it again and started laughing.

@GatvolFourie 5 лет назад

Ebay be like : " Tuning chip for Stihl MS500i +20% power +25% economy Android and iOS app monitor your saw remotely , tuning on the fly ...

@se6586 5 лет назад

Hell yeah. Finna have an APR stage 2 chainsaw

@atenzaguyinVB 5 лет назад

Add some Vtec stickers for 50 more HP

@eddziver2521 5 лет назад

Hahahah

@bradmonrean2307 5 лет назад

- - - - - - And you don't have to go to the dealer for computer diagnostics!

@Shadow6a 5 лет назад

I put a cold air intake and a NOS sticker on my chainsaw, tree said, "fuck this" and just fell over!

@mb4lunch 5 лет назад

Regular TV is so bad these days I find myself up late watching tool videos. LoL

@brebrey124ni 5 лет назад

We got rid of our Satellite TV at the beginning of last year and we don't miss it at all. The Internet is where it's at

@rytvdinners5064 5 лет назад

Instead of ads with a little bit of show it's show with a little bit of ads

@flavius3896 5 лет назад

OMG. Me, too!

@MrDandan170 4 года назад

small engine repair or model steam engine repair for me

@allenhenry1113 4 года назад

I totally agree, tv shows have gone to shit,

@jonathan_careless 5 лет назад

The perfect chainsaw for my 400sq/ft downtown condo!

@tuckera1879 5 лет назад

Bingo!

@larson0014 5 лет назад

Build a cabin

@seangangstad9597 5 лет назад

Jonathan Careless American Psycho fan I see..

@verlincamp4394 4 года назад

@@tuckera1879 bbbbghghghhbhbb

@nautilus9008 3 года назад

Just perfect to keep your balcony garden trimmed up

@1d1hamby 5 лет назад

I really enjoyed that Stihl animation @3:30.

@MrLegacy36 5 лет назад

What rpm does V-TEC kick in???

@napalmenthusiast4423 5 лет назад

@Gibbon why not?

@napalmenthusiast4423 5 лет назад

Woosh my dude

@khysor1832 5 лет назад

Lol

@unclecharms7857 5 лет назад

It goes honduhhhhh at WOT

@Icutmetal 5 лет назад

Unknown Weeb No kidding, right?!

@shadymaint1 4 года назад

I used to work at a Stihl dealer a few years ago. I remember the Stihl rep talking about this new fuel injected saw that they were working on. Nice to see it turned out well.

@alanshelby5980 5 лет назад

Who cares about the saw I want the cool little tracked skidder with the grapple.

@dougcarter1924 5 лет назад

Me too my SAWS FINE

@koreymiller26 5 лет назад

🙌🏻

@DM21Constellation 5 лет назад

Yo! Right. I was thinking the same thing.

@Mysixofnine 5 лет назад

Dude for real though! I’m sure it’s rocking a nice a winch on it too

@Scuba11000 5 лет назад

Yup I got my old 380 and a 661 that are in the bracket of the 500 ...but that little skidder would come in handy where I am

@GatvolFourie 5 лет назад

Buy a Stihl MS500i with fuckd ecu . Fits Holley EFi ...

@Josh-vk9gs 5 лет назад

I have a MS460. I just choke it. Pull 1-2 times most times, at most 3 times and it starts. Great saw! I have had it for awhile and I'm pretty darn sure its just as strong as brand new. I never use the decompression button either. My go to saw is a MS261 its light and runs a 20 inch bar really well. I cut Ash and Oak mostly.

@badeaadrian1469 5 лет назад

I’m waiting to buy a diesel one ☝️

@scottmarshall6766 5 лет назад

Better have EZ start or you'll need arms like Arnold

@Farmboy1544 5 лет назад

Ya, wait for the turbo diesel model though. lol

@jessejames1590 5 лет назад

@@Farmboy1544 it'll just fly outta your hands and start cutting down trees by itself.

@rebraca1 5 лет назад

TDI

@Farmboy1544 5 лет назад

@@jessejames1590 Perfect, less work for me. I can see the model being called the Tasmanian Devil.

@fortitudevalance8424 3 года назад

Nice, no spluttering, no tough idle, no hesitation. Pure power.

@brianrott921 15 дней назад

@@fortitudevalance8424 until it doesn't

@ec6933 5 лет назад

This is great and all but these new high end electric saws are getting pretty good and my 1976 carb stihl is still running great

@Hellsong89 5 лет назад

Just uncovered -75 or something Jonsered Raket RS52E. Bloody thing was unused roughly 30-40 years, jammed, but after oiling and moving things back and forth it started to loose up and even had spark from the get go. Recon i can get it running tomorrow, if i can find some gas hose and carbs membranes are not dead. It sure weights a ton, but seems to be reliable just like Stihl 029 that run on 3rd pull with old gas after sitting 5 years. I would like to see MS500i after sitting even a year unused. Probably cant even repair it due the damn fancy electronics failing after while.

@williammitchell8247 5 лет назад

New chainsaws have crap carbs on them and you are not legally allowed to adjust them after the completely break in after a year or so. Your old saw is a rare gem to have. Those of us who don't have an old one like you, need a fix for these new carbs saws.

@ec6933 5 лет назад

@@williammitchell8247 I've been told. Got it from my dad he ran it over with a skid steer and still runs great he bought a replacement but it's nothing but problems

@simonm1447 5 лет назад

@@Hellsong89 we also had a Jonsered 52 E in the past. It's a really heavy machine with 3 HP. Unfortunately a couple of things were broken, so we retired it. Now we use a Stihl 026, this is also a good saw, it's more powerful, but still lighter.

@michaell.mayhorn4418 5 лет назад

I am with you EC. My absolute favorite is MS260 PRO. Twas last one made before carb modifications and it's still a wood eater ,especially with a 20" raptor bar. New saws are a OK but nothing's wrong with the ones still kicking off the showroom floor still.

@billstmaxx 5 лет назад

Great. Another tool that someone can’t work on and repair at home. Think I’ll stay with my carburetor models

@joeh4295 5 лет назад

I thought that too when I watched the animation. Lots of moving parts needing specialized training to service.

@jayphillips4058 3 года назад

Echos exactly what the local saw shop guy says. Nobody who's working mountain cuts is biting, because if they quit there's no working on them remotely. I'm sticking with my older 038, 044 and 056 for that reason..they have a carb or ignition problem a half day from town, I'm usually able to patch 'em back together and keep going. I do like the idea of EFI for altitude, keep from having to guess jetting. I'd worry a bit about fuel, tho, as injected engines generally have less tolerance for contamination. Keeping perfectly clean fuel is tough in the woods, ask the guys running Tier IV equipment.

@pinkhead6857890 3 года назад

Ok boomer. Hows the holly double pumper and points ignition distributor holding out on your car this winter?

@pinkhead6857890 3 года назад

@@jayphillips4058 every pro I know has at least 3 different chainsaws handy at any given time. These things breakdown all the time, so they just pick up another powerhead and continue working. There job is to cut wood, not run small engine repair clinics out in the woods.

@jayphillips4058 3 года назад

@@pinkhead6857890 If they're breaking down all the time, I can guess what problem #1 is. I carry 2 or 3 saws in the woods, too, but daily/weekly/monthly/use hrs., all get complete attention plus new wear parts. I don't see any reason to get critical of what a guy is familiar with, knows how to fix, can do on site if needed, and doesn't require more than basic tools. I run older equipment because I often help people who run newer equipment; the comfort and amenities are really nice, hoes, dozers etc., but when they quit running the repair bill/downtime costs are tough. I charge the same per hour with my paid-for dinosaurs, but take home probably twice as much.

@Vendraxus 5 лет назад

i'll stick with my steam powered chainsaw, can't have progress you know.

@scottleggejr 5 лет назад

do you even vape, bro?

@jacobmckee5862 5 лет назад

Psshh. I'll stick with my two man crosscut saw thank you.

@MikeHunt-ix2xy 5 лет назад

Adolph's grandson is the worst salesman I've ever seen in my entire life

@user-vr8gl9ly5n 5 лет назад

Damian Graft Waste of money and not as reliable

@TheWoodsmanMilling 4 года назад

@@scottleggejr yeah

@LunchBox68 5 лет назад

Why am I watching a video about a chainsaw @ 3:07am. I know nothing about chainsaws 😂😂😂

@joew9392 4 года назад

Me neither but it didn't stop me from commenting on them...

@wesleycallison2079 4 года назад

You do now

@LunchBox68 4 года назад

@@wesleycallison2079 😂😂😂

@volkerpetersen2671 5 лет назад

Star of the video is the little caterpiller forwader. Could you make a video about that? Thx, love your vids.

@kansascityshuffle8526 5 лет назад

It’s fuel injected.

@wildbill23c 4 года назад

Next model will be electric start, and have an app to run it from your phone, won't even have to get off the couch LOL.

@eddeetz493 5 лет назад

Great combo with the saw and iron horse. Power and minimal footprint stacking saw logs. Nice to see you guys working wood. Good luck with good weather, great pastures and gardens this year.

@tke7mu0u 5 лет назад

Small engine fuel injection systems seem to be very problematic and surely with equipment being used in demanding environments such as a chainsaw the simpler the better. I dont doubt the electronics will be the first to fail.

@workingcountry1776 5 лет назад

Plenty of pro lawn mowers with 30+ hp v twins with 2,000 hours on them without any efi issues.

@Icutmetal 5 лет назад

cptbuilt K Agreed

@aleblanc3547 5 лет назад

It's always good to see Tim and his mad skills again. Thanks Simeon. I'll never need a saw like that one, but it's interesting to see where the industry is headed.

@rickydockins2779 4 года назад

Get a HUSKY AND YOU HAVE A REAL SAW still is for a small home owners

@mlalloway3413 3 года назад

The “i” stands for “I need one”

@Dragoslav_MD 5 лет назад

Does it have an OBD2 port?

@randyc5650 5 лет назад

It weighs 11% (13.6687-12.3=1.3687 lb) more than my MS 361 but has about 55% more bhp (6.8-4.4=2.4). Great if you are a pro and money is not tight.

@sergeantseven4240 5 лет назад

All you kids and your technology, I still have my 2 man saw and it works great!

@AZsmoothrider 5 лет назад

Vibration+heat+computer= problems.

@leadingseamanphilbillingto100 5 лет назад

Smooth Rider to simplify, computer = problems

@mr.thickey1820 5 лет назад

"Ach du lieber, mein schatz"! When I used to live up in the Northwest Wisconsin backwoods, near Madge (Spooner too). My great loves were my Pioneer P25 (3.1 cu.in. ) & P50 (5.0 cu.in.) chainsaws. The P25 did most all of my cutting. But my P50, "the screamer", was used for the "big schtoof", especially red & white oaks (hard as granite!). I was in my mid 30s in those mid & later 1970s (I'm now 79). How I greatly miss those most wonderful years as a bachelor & strong as "a bull" (stinky as one too!)!!! Owned 120 acres all to myself & my nearest & only neighbor was a mile away! Got down to -60°s one winter! Always carried a Ruger Super Blackhawk in .44 magnum with me in the woods. I've had a very blessed life!!! I try to thank God for it all, in Christ Jesus!!!!! "Gesundheit" & put annudder birch log on the fire for me poleaze! Miss those most wunnerful smells of a wood fire! But the Lord has blessed me well for this rest of my life too, now living in the "civilized" far north central Illinois.

@jolkraeremeark6949 5 лет назад

Wow, you went from paradise to being a FIB😁

@glennllewellyn7369 7 месяцев назад

G’day mate! Hope you are well.

@davidbrennan5 5 лет назад

It cost $25.00 to rebuild a carb, how much does that circuit board cost?

@CruelQuertos 5 лет назад

Probably couple of cents, circuit boards are dirt cheap.

@davidbrennan5 5 лет назад

Stihl should give them away for free then...

@CruelQuertos 5 лет назад

@Marcus Möller Im not talking about the cost of buying spare parts from stihl, im talking about the production costs. The boards are dirt cheap the RnD may not be. Jeez man, relax you swedish fuck.

@robboss1839 5 лет назад

Awesome technology but I like the simplicity of my carbed STHIL’s because the less electrics and more mechanical shit the easier it is for me to work on.

@yardlimit8695 5 лет назад

AMEN.

@TopiAS06 3 года назад

and year later, go ask someone who has used to saw in professional use, how much issues they have had....

@michaeldougfir9807 5 лет назад

This was very interesting. And I had not heard of this saw before. I will send this to my brother. It may serve his needs. Thanks, Michael in northern California.

@johnvalencia9927 5 лет назад

"this chainsaw doesn't have a carburator. think about that for a minute". I did, and I'm an idiot and I have no idea what that means.

@TepcoCycleRepair 5 лет назад

Love 2 stroke advancement! Good job Stihl!

@dwoodog 5 лет назад

Now that guy doing most of the cutting is how I expect to see a chain saw video, full safety gear. Not some clown in his shorts and runners with sun glasses on. Great video. Only thing I feel you missed was how does it perform in cold climate.

@tjlovesrachel 5 лет назад

Needs larger double dogs... and a wrap handle... and nice psy-ko zip from hotsaws101

@jolkraeremeark6949 5 лет назад

Every saw needs that treatment!

@LUTHERJ304 5 лет назад

Hes definitely not taking it easy on the new saw. Hella power. Plus he pretty good arborist

@scottleggejr 5 лет назад

Not bad for 5'3" 114 lbs. Give that saw to a 6'+ 250lbs+ gorilla and watch it die. MS660 or MS880 and a full chisel skiptooth chain or nothing.

@maddmason9520 5 лет назад

I’ll buy one eventually. I’ve used their cutoff saws with this technology and they’re no joke. I’ve never owned a bad Stihl product yet.

@chief9-10-games5 4 года назад

Give me a break ALL you brand fan boys are a joke I've been running saws for over 20 yrs and they ALL break down if your running them consistently and are working them hard lol ALL SAWS BREAK DOWN and in my experience I've had more trouble with STIHLS and there almost always more expensive to repair.

@joew9392 4 года назад

There's a few out there...

@justotorres8970 4 года назад

Fuel injection and still gotta pump 8 times . I was expecting a remote start so I could start it , and let it warm up from my kitchen while I have a cup of coffee.

@R3TR0--93 3 года назад

lmfao

@goldentrucker7921 5 лет назад

I messaged Stihl on Facebook. They said... Hello David, Thank you for your question. STIHL currently does not have an approximate release date available for the STIHL MS 500i in the US, but are hoping for late summer or early fall. When this kind of product becomes available, your local authorized STIHL dealers will be notified. Thank you for your interest in STIHL products and have a great day. I asked my local dealer, and he had no idea what I was talking about.

@phi376 5 лет назад

david anthony Mine said the same and took it a step further by REFUSING to order one even when it was available. 🤦🏻‍♂️

@goldentrucker7921 5 лет назад

@@phi376 My local dealer had no idea what I was talking about. He thought I was talking about the concrete saw.

@itfmakaveli7769 5 лет назад

My local dealer as well had no idea of this what so ever seems like stihl needs to educate the dealers on the product

@goldentrucker7921 5 лет назад

@@itfmakaveli7769 I was going to buy a new 462, but with my lousy dealer i went with the husky 572xp. Also stihl labor rate is $100 hour, my husky dealer is $60 per hour. I own both brands, so not a fan boy. But $100 seems a little too high. And was very disappointed that I have more knowledge of their upcoming products, than they do.

@pepeiann 5 лет назад

Order one on Ebay dude

@herbwag6456 5 лет назад

Why does Stihl name it's saws so you don't know their displacement?

@rastusodanga 5 лет назад

To be cool.

@seanangermeier3266 5 лет назад

They have numbered their saws in units of cubic inches for years. The 044 was 4.4, the 461 is 4.6, the 500i is 5, the 660 & 661 are 6.6 and so on. Even back to saws like the 041 at 4.1 from forty years ago.

@madman432000 5 лет назад

@@seanangermeier3266 but they are a German manufacturer why not use CC?

@dirtyshirtinfo 5 лет назад

Phil Ward Excellent point!

@dirtyshirtinfo 5 лет назад

Sean Angermeier Thanks, I did not know or understand their model designations.

@choochoo7563 5 лет назад

Soon as you buy one you are married to a dodgy dealership stay with a carbi saw. Ya can’t fix this crap yourself and especially when your miles from anywhere.

@toutatismoralis285 5 лет назад

That's exactly what i was thinking.

@NaruSanavai 5 лет назад

Except, you can. It takes literally 5 minutes to learn how. This argument is almost 40 years old, now - and was proven wrong in that very first year.

@oby-1607 5 лет назад

Don't forget your laptop so you can do diagnostics when it fails.

@NaruSanavai 5 лет назад

@@oby-1607 Pfft, I could do it with my phone, if it came to that.

@benwhittingham2525 4 года назад

What is this? Cutting tree’s? Why not test the saw out for real and cut some concrete with it.

@danielbargas3377 5 лет назад

And there's already people who absolutely hate m-tronic, wait till they hear the carb is completely gone

@stephenmontgomery6043 5 лет назад

Claiming 441 weight and 066 power . I'd like to run one with a 20" full chisel square bit in hickory or oak to see how it does for comparison .

@archer71au 5 лет назад

bring it down under to Australia .. we have a lil tree called an Iron Bark .. lets see how it goes thru that.. Iron Bark ?? gee I wonder how it got its name?!!

@sindrome303 5 лет назад

We have a wood in the Pilbra of Western Australia called Black heart. its so hard termites cant eat it. All the old homesteads are made out of it.

@heresmytake2782 5 лет назад

@@archer71au sounds like fun to work with eh?

@51WCDodge 5 лет назад

In UK we used to have the old wooden Railway Sleeper! I sleeper= about 3 chains.

@hakonandrelandsverk1229 5 лет назад

Not to criticize, but the STIHL MS500i is the first chainsaw with ELECTRIC injection. Not at all the first saw in the world with injection. Actually there are several older chainsaws that had a type of injection. For example the Norwegian "Bamse", from the 50ˋs, which had a mechanical injection driven by a valve on the crankshaft. Nice video by the way! :D

@Firby1988 5 лет назад

Håkon Andrè Landsverk sach dolmar has a fuel injected carb so your right lots of fuel injected chainsaws of one kind or another 😀

@NaruSanavai 5 лет назад

Every combustion engine has fuel injection, so you're just arguing semantics and/or technicalities.

@Firby1988 5 лет назад

Naru 'Sanav some engines are carburated so not all engines have fuel injection 🤪

@etherealrose2139 5 лет назад

My carbureted saws aren't fuel injected. Air passing through a constriction by the jet port creates a venturi vacuum and sucks fuel into the intake. So try again.

@NaruSanavai 5 лет назад

@@etherealrose2139 That's _mechanical_ fuel injection, which is the precursor to _electric_ fuel injection. "Try again", indeed.

@samtuck6400 5 лет назад

I'll have to say that time brings changes and this is just a natural progression. Fuel injection is the future for numerous reasons and yes it is extremely reliable in today's engines. I'm sure it will be just as reliable in smaller engines as it is developed. As my dad use to say, "boys the days they are a changing!" A truer statement has never been made!

@51WCDodge 5 лет назад

Except now with good rechargable battries, especially in urban use, no exhaust, quieter and powerful electric saws do a better job. Charging off a small generator or a vehicle. Maintince on the motor, virtually nil,

@samtuck6400 5 лет назад

@@51WCDodge I agree with you about the advancements in battery technology. It still has a ways to go to fit into pro/semi pro cutting but the push continues. For a homeowner with relatively limited work they are a real option. We still have a ways to go for extended cutting. Charging batteries with a generator is extremely inefficient.

@51WCDodge 5 лет назад

@@samtuck6400 The tecnology is improving but how far it can go is the question. I'd agree the major concerns at the moment are cost of battries and charge/running time.Though one other concern is the lack of interchangabilty in batteries, you are tied to one manufactruer. .My favourite tool is a donkey years old Hydraulic saw that pluga into the hydrulic pto of a tractor. The down side is you hoses atached the up side is it just keeps going, including under water.

@mgttreecare 5 лет назад

Good Review on the 500i. But what is the self-propelled grapple in the back ground at 5:21 Who makes it and where can we get one.

@SplinteredCompany 5 лет назад

It's not the first carburetor free chainsaw. We have been selling electric chainsaws for years.

@mrcaboosevg6089 5 лет назад

I mean, he's talking about petrol saws, no one gives two shits about electric

@blkdog229 5 лет назад

Great! First time it screws up and you have to bring it to the dealer for service let us know how that fuel injection works for you $$$$ wise. Carb rebuild kit

@sindrome303 5 лет назад

Exactly

@316fabrication 5 лет назад

Not so much an hour on the back of a tailgate. But I get you I'm a small engine mechanic and 20 years and don't think that it will be alive and have fun getting parts if you want

@Glock2201 5 лет назад

How many cars on the road right now have carbs in them? I don't see a bunch of them broke down beside the road.

@blkdog229 5 лет назад

Glock2201 Yeah, we're not talking cars here. You want one of these, fine, go buy one, couldn't care less. I've been running saws professionally for 30 years making a paycheck, and carbs have never been a problem for me. Simple, reliable, and I DON'T have to bring it to any dealer for service. That was the point of my comment.

@NaruSanavai 5 лет назад

@@blkdog229 No, you're not talking cars, but the concept is very much the same. It may be new for saws, but the tech itself is _not_ new, by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, it's 3-4 decades (or more) old. You are just willfully ignorant.

@tacticalant3841 5 лет назад

The guy in orange at 3:00 reminds me of one of the kids on American Bandstand. When asked how they like the new song, they all say in a monotone voice “ it has a good beat and easy to dance to”.

@jedclampett6466 5 лет назад

I already see the potential weak spot.... the circuit board.

@Josh-vk9gs 5 лет назад

Amen, Very True!!!!!

@Freakingstang 5 лет назад

Prolly why it’s been in development for four years before being released for testing by normal users. Ecm’s have been in saws for over a decade. Keep wearing the tinfoil hat...

@MrThenry1988 5 лет назад

I don't like the 661. I'm gonna need a code reader for a chainsaw? Good lord. I got one of the last 660s sold locally. I have several wanting it real bad. My carb saws are the only thing around here that are reliable. If trouble comes along I can fix it. No circuit boards. Hope I'm dead and gone before my saws.

@jtjones73 5 лет назад

My old McCulloughs will out last everyone on this website, doubtful the new Stihl will out last lunch.

@chloehennessey6813 5 лет назад

So basically it’s more that can go wrong with a chainsaw? No thanks. I use my saw in Alaska. The nearest Stihl dealer is 1,300 miles away. When it’s 45 below outside And the House is cold I can’t be fussing with broken PCBs, bad injectors etc. I bought a used Stihl from a guy here. Sent it to the dealer and had it completely rebuilt.

@stuartluig2911 5 лет назад

We kinda "deleted" the exhaust on our weedeater, and it sounds just like this thing now.

@RGD-Audio-Repairs 5 лет назад

A chainsaw with an ECU! No thanks... Just more to fail...

@aleemsmith9507 4 года назад

Naww

@santiagohulkmuniez3394 4 года назад

Pretty sure johnsored has had a fuel injected saw for a while now. Correct me if I'm wrong.

@joew9392 4 года назад

That's all we need, something else we can't repair...

@FerrariTeddy 4 года назад

@power equipment a carburetor is a lot easier to fix or replace than a fuel injection system

@joew9392 4 года назад

@paulsan2112 They do the FI so that only their dealerships will be able to service them, at least for a while...

@joew9392 4 года назад

....and no Chinese knock offs for a few years...

@TheAndre8900 4 года назад

Or something else we don't have to re-tune every month of the years because THREE DEGREES MORE BOY NOW THE A/F RATIO IS GARBAGE DO THAT AGAIN FROM SCRATCH. And has more power and less heavy. Not all change is bad change.

@joew9392 4 года назад

@trams dell You don't know how reliable they are, they've not been out long enough to assume that.

@robphillips100 5 лет назад

That’s great.... shame Stihl can’t fix their shitty fuel and oil tank caps. Otherwise would be a good saw.

@tannerhartl5175 5 лет назад

What do you mean? Those caps are great

@robphillips100 5 лет назад

Tanner Hartl once it’s been used a while the caps are shit. They don’t lock off properly

@Jenuin 5 лет назад

I miss my 880 but this looks dangon sweet EFI in a 2stroke. I hope I see that for my cr500 soon muhahahhhaa

@joeykimball5705 5 лет назад

There are several other dirtbike manufacturers with fuel injected 2 strokes. Though theyre not 500cc lol

@ScoopDaddy488 5 лет назад

Honda is coming out with a new cr500 with 92hp, 44hp more than the previous and is 33 pounds lighter as well. I don’t think you would be worrying about fuel injection when you are impregnated into a tree lol.

@Jenuin 5 лет назад

Dude. All of my injuries are from attempting just that. Lol and I so love knowing this. If you find anything on RU-vid link it here. 🤜 hell yeah!

@TepcoCycleRepair 5 лет назад

@@ScoopDaddy488 link?

@jacobjordan7644 5 лет назад

They have had fuel injected for CR500 for quite some time men dash lady not quite sure your background pictures misleading

5 лет назад

As much as I love fuel Injection in vehicles having a computer in your chainsaw is bad. I've dropped my old Stihl in puddles or left it outside in the rain and the worst is that I have to disassemble and displace the water. Now with a fucking gps so Google can track me and rat me out to environmentalist assholes what the fuck.

@robertcornelius3514 5 лет назад

"I" just means more dollars.

@sevrajsami 3 года назад

It means power ans gas efficiency but who cares about these things right

@gaskalas6861 5 лет назад

Aså jag gillar ej stihl så mycket jag är mer en Husqvarna kille för jag tycker inte bromsen eller kast skölden på stihl är så bra liksom jag känner mig inte så säker med stihl. Men ha det båda har bra kvalite och bra sågar. Men jag känner mig säkraste med Husqvarna,sorry dålig svenska😂

@Glock2201 5 лет назад

I am not a huge fan of steel so I don't know if I would get one of these saws but I have to laugh at all the comments about staying with carbs and not trusting fuel injection. I would guess that 99% of you drive vehicles with fuel injection every day. You trust those to not leave you stranded but won't trust a chainsaw with it.

@babyyoda6058 5 лет назад

Glock2201 I drive an 84 blazer

@drewa3597 5 лет назад

@@babyyoda6058 you're that 1%, bravo.

@williambrahnum5641 5 лет назад

The first cars to come out with fuel injection had problems. I always give the market about 5 to 10 years to work out the Kinks in the new product before I buy it. Yes I drive with fuel injection cars but they have had problems and work them out, this saw has not. I'm not against a fuel injected chainsaw, I want it to work well, but I'm not going to drop the money on it until someone else tells me it's worked for years.

@delholford987 5 лет назад

Like he said in the video, Stihl has had injection on the concrete saws and another power head. I’m impressed by the speed this saw has cutting oak with that 20” bar.

@JohnMatrixOfficial 5 лет назад

I know that guy didnt fall that tree with that saw. He used a husky!

@xenonram 5 лет назад

That's incredible. EFI on a chainsaw!

@integr8er66 5 лет назад

Not sure anybody said EFI, all I saw was FI.

@sylkelster 4 года назад

@@integr8er66 What do you think that integrated circuit board is for?

@integr8er66 4 года назад

@@sylkelster Probably to drive the laser felling beam.😂

@davidmorse8432 3 года назад

@@integr8er66 You are right EFI would require a battery and charging system.

@alexm7777 3 года назад

Suzuki has a battery less efi system on one of their outboards.

@Ritalie 5 лет назад

Power is measured in the amount of horses. Horses do work. Horsepower! Please list the horsepower for us common folk. Watts are boring! ;) Oh and also pounds. We use pounds, and pounds aren't as cool as grams. But we need to know how much horsepower, and how many pounds... Thanks so much!

@brianbartulis9709 5 лет назад

I thought most saws were rated in CCs? This one be 79.2CCs. (some searches says 15 CCs =1 hp) My 1990s 026 is 49CCs, my 661 is say 90CCs. 50CC range is a nice size for home owners, and probably never have to look back.

@maddoxinc1642 5 лет назад

Personally, I LOVE this.. Fuel injection is not only more efficient meaning you'll get more run time from one tank but its also more powerful. I don't know if I'll buy this one, I never buy the initial product just so they can fix the bugs but I WILL be buying one in the next year or two.

@kainhall 5 лет назад

a properly set up carb will do exactly the same as fuel injection..... you still want the same air-fuel mix sure.... it takes a LOT more work and skill to set up a carb correctly....... while most EFI systems auto adjust in seconds might make starting it quicker, however thats really the whole point.... less maintenance.... and jim bob cant fuck with the carb ..... then leave a 1 star review because it runs like shit ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- but then again...... my old 77 chevy pickup with a 400 cubic inch v8, full time 4 wheel drive, and a mechanical secondary Q-jet 4 barrel carb .....it gets 10mpg.... on a good day ANYWAY..... it will start in -50f, with no block heater..... when my 97 to 06 GM cars....even with block heaters plugged in, wont start (only 1/4 of kids showed up to school that day) pull the choke... pump it twice, and turn it over VA! ROOM! fires right up but ive got all smog deleted (montana has ZERO emissions laws)..... and rebuilt the carb my self spent DAYS dialing it in but god damn does it run good...... only has ~35,000 miles on it, due to the fuel economy (which is mostly the full time 4 wheel drive....and aerodynamics like a brick)

@FuqUYouTube 5 лет назад

@@kainhall 400cui V8... Sounds like a Ford 351M... You driving a Ranger? Edit: I had a 76' XLT Ranger with a 351 modified..(400)

@kainhall 5 лет назад

@@FuqURU-vid 77 Chevy half ton But I got a 94 ranger with the 4.0 single cam and a 5 speed.... needs a new trans (

@ronaldgentry9923 5 лет назад

351M is a 400 with a shorter stroke crank in it to make 351ci. Had one in my 78 f150, was a underpowered gas hog, It got replaced by a well built 70 460, that one would make ya smile when ya stomped on the gas, it was a gas hog also but at least had the power to make the gas bill worth it.

@gentlemen0076 5 лет назад

Nothing special... My stihl 028 av professional cut like that...

@jbrown1971 5 лет назад

Remington made a fuel injected chainsaw 20 years ago.

@Icutmetal 5 лет назад

@cookscustoms4787 5 лет назад

I'll stick to my modded 034 runs like a clock and parts are everywhere

@jsouder 5 лет назад

You should probably reassemble it...

@iguanaamphibioustruck7352 5 лет назад

I cannot understand why you need a filter in the tank and another screen in the intake in the carburetor. Jim, the stihl mechanic makes $50 per for just cleaning out the screen in the carb. I have a 30 year old wood splitter with a 12 hp Briggs that starts on the first pull every year for 10 years. I am going to a battery powered chain saw but it will not be a Stihl.

@gregm.6945 5 лет назад

bags not paying for replacement of the circuit board @ 03:55 when it blows ;)

@dapper_gent 5 лет назад

we need touch screen chainsaws now by god.

@BusinessEtiquettes 5 лет назад

dappergen Not before remote start.

@BryanDenlingerKJVM 5 лет назад

Computer chips in a chainsaw? Nah. I don't think so.

@annetteanderson6845 5 лет назад

Always a great day when I can watch a Swedish Homestead saw review! (Several times!)

@thomas4844 5 лет назад

I bought a $140 chainsaw on amazon with 20” bar. It cuts like a pissed off beaver. It’s definitely for the guy who cuts wood a couple times per year so, and definitely not for the pro. So far it’s worth every penny. High end Stihl saws easily run well over $1000. Trust me, search Amazon for xtremepower US chain saw. Worth every dollar.......so far.

@superlazy3355 5 лет назад

That's similar here in the UK, there's a brand called Titan, perfect for the home gamer

@zzz7zzz9 5 лет назад

exhaust level limits on chainsaws??? this snowflake world is getting ridiculous.

@garrymiller3171 5 лет назад

Does that really bother you

@zzz7zzz9 5 лет назад

@@garrymiller3171 it's pretty darn ridiculous isn't it? Have they reduced the emissions in the ships, trains, and semis that then get these saws to their destinations? A chainsaw being limited on it's exhaust emissions is literally having absolutely zero effect.

@WineScrounger 5 лет назад

The world is fucked because we used the atmosphere as a bin for 200 years. You want to keep doing that?

@mtcruse 5 лет назад

@@WineScrounger Earth has some incredible recuperative capabilities. It's not fucked. Far from it. What mankind puts into the environment CAME from the environment, and it will return. Yes, mankind needs to clean up after itself, but mankind is but a flyspeck to this planet.

@The_JEB 5 лет назад

I'll never understand why chainsaws need to meet government regulations for environmental protection when you go out and are actively cutting down the environment. But with that being said I think it'd be great if you can tune the computer.

@MountainMetal 5 лет назад

Because the forest grows back, and better to remove and use the resource than leave it to fuel the next wildfire.

@otm646 5 лет назад

Small outbound engines have been fuel injected for years now with great results. It was only time before the sub 100cc engines went this route.

@neilcarrington5137 4 года назад

I love you Boys channel. I’m a professional woodcutter from Scotland. We have a saying. An inch at the bottom is worth a foot at the top. You need to get your stumps lower lads. Or do you not have aviation in Sweden 🤣🤣

@hellblazer275 5 лет назад

Wait till someone hooks up a Holly/haltech/whoever else to it ....... E85 chainsaw anyone??

@scottleggejr 5 лет назад

micro, micro, micro squirt

@SL-ix4yk 5 лет назад

Look at how it goes into a plunge cut, that's impressive, I got to say the last 10 or so years all the saws I really haven't been impressed with, my old 90s Husqvarna can out cut them any day but this saw actually looks good enough it may be worth trying out. Excellent vid looking forward to trying one for myself

@yotaismygame 5 лет назад

You ever run ported saws? If you haven’t I can see why you think it’s so amazing. Not saying it isn’t though.

@johnwyman6331 5 лет назад

Why couldn't you Port this saw?

@dylanholt1929 5 лет назад

5:23 seems like a good way to cop a saw in the face cutting with the tip of the bar like that. Is there any reason for a professional operator to use a saw like that? Normally that’s a big no no, you can see the saw trying to kick back

@JustinMF11 4 года назад

Didn't you see it shake? Yeah, bad idea.

@patrickprafke4894 5 лет назад

That thing just sounds angry.

@joew9392 4 года назад

I imagine a well tuned 500I might keep up with a 346XP...

@lucaslounsbury8515 4 года назад

Except it’s not the worlds first fuel injected saw there was one in the late 50s.

@MountainMetal 5 лет назад

You pump 8 times? EIGHT times? I'm a licensed timber operator well into my 60's, with over 40 years of experience, and have used, and currently own saws ranging from the 1960s era to current generation models, carb'ed and auto-tune, up to the biggest saws made today. When the electronic saws act like spoiled, temperamental teenage girls and need to go pout for no particular reason before you can start them again, and when it's more than just a rare and isolated incident, and you don't have the time to sit and chat about nothing until they 'feel better', the reliable old troopers from the 70's, 80's and others from before all the electronics are there for me, same as they always were. A little heavier, sure, because there's less plastic, but I don't care. I need a saw that always starts, and runs the way it's supposed to run, and that I can work on myself if it doesn't, which is pretty rare, without hours of driving down the hill to civilization to the saw shop, then another few hours returning a week or two later to another $200 or whatever repair bill...Suit yourselves, but no thanks. I'll take my 20, 30 and even 40+ year-old never-say-die classics, hands down.

@hockeyslade 5 лет назад

Mountain Metal absolutely. Kids arms are so small now. All you old timers have old man strength. Kids don’t appreciate hard work.

@joeh4295 5 лет назад

I have an 038AV wood boss. That thing starts every time within 3 or 4 pulls and keeps running all day. It's been dropped a few times and never gets moody. I clean it off, make sure the chain is still aligned and go to work. I'd be too concerned over the electronics to take these new saws into my woods.

@MountainMetal 5 лет назад

@@hockeyslade Man, don't even get me started on kids today. God forbid they ever need to do anything like storm the Beaches o' Normandy.

@MountainMetal 5 лет назад

@@joeh4295 I hear you. Good saws. I gave the electronic saws a fair chance, but the chronic moodiness and I do not get along, and I don't like primer buttons. They just complicate what should be left simple.

@arendscholten6835 5 лет назад

Hehe, now it's almost as good as an old Husqvarna 😜 throttle response sounds great though, very nice.

@tcmtech7515 5 лет назад

Now he would convert the whole fuel system over to fluoroelastomer or similar alcohol compatible based gasket and line components and run the thing on E85 fuel just to get the anti-ethanol people to blow a gasket!! :P For those who don't know just how easy setting up a common two stroke engine to be fully ethanol compatible, Just find what brand and model of carburetor your device of choice (chainsaw, string trimmer, leaf blower, other) has and look it or one of its base model variants up on any of the bigger RC hobby websites that carry carb and fuel system component kits for the bigger RC engines that run on methanol or other alcohol blend based fuels. The rest is just resetting the jetting to work at a richer A/F ratio. :D

@mtcruse 5 лет назад

A) A logger is going to be too busy focused on his tasks to bother to go through that process - he needs his equipment to WORK, work RIGHT, and work NOW. B) The average Joe Homeowner wouldn't either - too much work and expense. C) I'd try it though, but it's easy enough to get non-ethanol based fuels so why bother?

@tcmtech7515 5 лет назад

@@mtcruse A)The last time I checked most loggers didn't do a lot of major tool repair work themselves. It all went to dedicated technicians who have no problem with doing such work. B) That just strawman argument. The average homeowner doesn't even do oil change on their vehicles or even lawnmowers themselves anymore, so, just like the loggeres, their stuff goes to some either dedicated more than capable service tech or some half wit con at some shop. A,B & C) Sometimes 'just because it needs to be proven it can be done' is reason enough and I just happen to be one of those guys who loves proving others poorly founded misconceptions wrong!

@olskool3967 5 лет назад

no thanks, I will stick to my old stihl and homelite saws with carb. and on and off, nothing tricky for me. after all I am "olskool"

@yardlimit8695 5 лет назад

me too ,,,,,,,,,olskool..........that's because we're not like the other lemmings on the planet running to anything that says electronic or fuel injection.............it's a different world out there olskool and we're not a part of it. THANK GOD....

@lisaineastcentralohio6805 5 лет назад

I am passing your videos on the new saws on to a Shihl dealer. He said he can't wait to see them.

@joew9392 5 лет назад

Sounds like another pain in the rear for us that work on our own stuff....

@heresmytake2782 5 лет назад

Wow! your bro is really good at operating that saw

@09AT101 5 лет назад

I thought so too but no one else said it. Maybe we just suck lol.

@benjaminkline4855 5 лет назад

Sounds like it's got a rev limiter. Just couldn't hear it sing

@Specialized61 5 лет назад

Jason should use it in his next movie!

@blumaxx1 5 лет назад

Fantastic review,,, however anything with a fuel injection system or should I say computer operating system is prone to flaws and glitches which cause malfunctions which in turn causes you to take it back to the dealer and end up using your first born as collateral to pay for the diagnostic of the malfunction,,,,,,

@TheeJMC 5 лет назад

Does it run at higher RPM than older saws? It sounds faster.

@calebwillhelm2635 5 лет назад

No it just runs gayer

@NaruSanavai 5 лет назад

Maybe not higher RPM per se, but you _do_ make better power-to-weight with less fuel.

@robinmoens1840 5 лет назад

Stihl MS 880 is more expensive than MS 500i

@dbeanmail 5 лет назад

Looks like more parts to break or go bad. I'm sure it will cost more for the "high tech" parts. Stihl makes more money on selling parts than the saws themselves. Ask most your local stihl shops. Margins are much higher on the parts.

@xxxxxxxx183 5 лет назад

The carb is the most common fail point in any chainsaw...

@buckhorncortez 5 лет назад

What's a "still shops"?

@dbeanmail 5 лет назад

@@buckhorncortez it's an auto correct. No no it's of those new swiss made jobs.

@NaruSanavai 5 лет назад

Except EFI systems have fewer parts than MFI systems. 🤔

@dbeanmail 5 лет назад

@@NaruSanavai I'm still on the fence. If it requires a computer to tune it then I'm out. Call me old school but when companies tie my hands and not allow me adjust my own equipment it's an impairment. I have plenty of 20 year old saws that run circles around any of the new ones. In the case of my 660 it burns less fuel then the new 661C I had for a few months.

@scottleggejr 5 лет назад

EFI = environmental fuel injection. The fuel passing the reeds is at a real vacuum 🤣😂