STILL BROKEN: 2022 Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special 

It sounds to me like a weak mixture that the O2 sensors are picking up when you downshift and put on the power.The dealer is just replacing the O2 sensors thinking that they are faulty, when I fact they are just reporting the problem, it may indeed require a flashover for the E C M for the fix. Things to look for, vacuum leak on the air intake and air getting in the exhaust before the O2 sensor, fuel pressure, also try using super unleaded E5.

I live in the US and bought an (almost new) Moto Guzzi 1970 Ambassador 750. I drove it back and forth to work for many years and not a single problem. It was the most reliable bike I have ever owned. In the past have owned a Triumph 650 Trophy, Honda 1963 Dream and a 1967 HARLEY FLH. Later I bought a (new) 2004 new Road King Classic, and sold it because it was very heavy (about 900 lbs). Looking back the Guzzi was the best. I enjoy watching your videos, especially the scenery in Britain, Quite beautiful. Eddie

First of all thanks for the update. And love your channel mate. Keep up the great work.

It looks like you had a nice ride, good luck with your Moto Guzzi. I think they are a good motorcycle but the electrics can be a challenge.

As a new to Guzzi owner with under 300 miles on the 850 Special I am more than a little interested in this topic. It must be wrecking you're new bike experience. I am usually wrong about most things but I thought the ECU stores in it's memory all the faults it detects. On a car these fault codes are then downloaded to a portable scan tool and can be read by a suitably trained mechanic / technician. Those portable devices must be regularly updated from the manufacturers website although some are live linked all the time. Moto Guzzi, being a relatively small company probably doesn't have the finances for a stand alone system. I wonder if the local shop has to take a download off a users ECU and upload the fike to Moto Guzzi who then have to have it analysed by Bosch or whoever provides their ECU ( and it operating parameters) . That's maybe why it days a few days to get info back to the dealer / customer. " check engine lights" can be caused by some very strange events. I saw a RU-vid video the other day where a car had "check engine" warning that turned out to be a leaking fuel filler cap. This allowed air in and 'vapour' out. This caused the EVAP system sensor to give a warning that fuel vapours may be escaping to atmosphere. ( environmental disaster or what). However, the ECU error code did not spell out what the problem was but just indicated where there might be a problem. So it's not just a tool to plug in and out pops the answer. These error codes need to be read by fully trained technicians and there's the rub. How many motorcycle dealers can afford to employ such expensively trained staff? The manufacturers of the ECU may well have to keep all the codes to themselves so as to ensure the information thus provided is up to date and accurate. Of course this may just be a the ramblings of my crazy mind and, of course, none of this helps you with your bikes problem. If my bike does what yours is doing I'm going to be "right fed up". Fingers crossed it all gets sorted soon.

I went through 3 O2 sensors and a extremely expensive speedo (for MG) under warranty on my V7 iii. To be fair the dealer was pretty good, the back up according to the dealer from Piaggio was pretty woeful and I think there lay’s the problem. The dealer network is sketchy and changes a lot, so you have the perfect storm of poorly supported and trained dealers. I’ve still got the Guzzi, think it looks great, in fact better than any bike on the market and it hasn’t thrown any faults out of warranty however I’d suggest people have a back up Japanese bike.

Nice overtakes!

Update on my previous comment. Got it sorted! The generator/pickup assembly was replaced under warranty which solved the issue. No more engine light coming on! It's been a few months and all has been good since. Hope this might help get yours sorted.

sorry to hear. I had the same issue with a 2020 MG V7III Stone S. Four times at the dealer and they still could not get it figured out. Occasionally the speedo would go off and no longer function too. Hopefully they will get yours dialed in.

It's a beautiful machine - such a shame it came with a gremlin! You're so right about the numbers thing. I saw the light with my first of 3 'sporty' Beemers. My current 1250RS is incredibly grunty. No more IL4 domestic appliances for me - gimme the torque baby 😂

My engine light came on just before I was due for thr 1st service so I thought that was MG's way of ensuring owners took their bikes in for service. But it began to have starting and running issues. The shop said it was the heat sensor and replaced it by taking one off of another bike on the showroom floor since the leadtime would've dashed my roadtrip plans which were set for the day after service was to be completed. Got the bike back with the light off. Went for the road trip and was 1,000 miles from home when it came on again. At least the 2nd time it didn't exhibit the same symptoms.

I have n't followed all the comments and replies since the video was posted so apologies if I'm repeating what is already been said. I have the same issue (Moto Guzzi V7 Stone IV) and brought it back four times to get it looked at. Short version (after going ballistic with the shop!) is that this is a "known issue" with MG (though they never quite broadcasted it). Something to do with the mapping parameters of the sensor that erroneously causes the light to come on - the management unit thinks the sensors are reading something abnormal. Anyway, MG said it is ok to ride the bike and they are working on a mapping to solve the problem - but could be months before it is dine and tested, and rolled out. Hope this helps.

damn. still have the problem myself. was hoping you'd have better news but please keep us updated. itd be great if i could contact my nearest garage in Gloucestershire and give the likely solution to save time. Days off like you say are a hassle

If it was me I would be telling Moto Guzzi that I wanted a new bike, enough is enough. Here in New Zealand there are consumer laws that state that if a problem isn't repaired in a timely manner (after say 3 or 4 attempts) you are entitled to a replacement for loss of faith in the product.

I have an old T3 which is the most wonderful two-wheeled tractor you could possibly ride. I also have a BMW R Nine T which I have been thinking of part-exchanging against the new V100. I'm not sure I'm going to bother. The service from BMW has been faultless, the dealership fantastic. When I bought the R Nine T I was thinking of a Griso but the local dealer seemed flakey. It closed down soon after I got the BMW. A wise decision. There's nothing more frustrating than trusting a brand to deliver and finding it unsupportive. I would like Moto Guzzi to succeed but it needs to learn that it is only as good as the opinion of its most disaffected customer.

The pressure n temp sensor at the underside of the airbox also contribute to air fuel ratio. Might have a look at that too.

Hello from Burry Port, 15 miles to the west of Swansea. I had an intermittent FI warning light for an age with my Suzuki V twin that caused the bike to randomly cut out, usually at fairly low speeds. It was pretty scary at times but was eventually traced to a corroded HT lead. My bike is now 18 years old but was exhibiting this fault from as early as 2005, when I bought it all but brand new from a lad in Burnley with just 510 miles on it {he'd found himself in some unforeseen financial issues}. I bought some nearly new spares off eBay and have had no trouble since a coil and HT lead change. I just thought I'd mention this, if all other avenues fail you and your own bother fails to be totally resolved. Bikes may be totally or nearly new when we get them but one does wonder sometimes how new some of the electrical parts fitted to them actually are !

Bit of a wild card but do you run E10 or E5 petrol? I know bikes can technically run the cheaper stuff but I always use branded super unleaded E5 (not super market). Never had problems.

May I suggest having a look what type of plug is used by Guzzi for the diagnostics. If it's an OBDII port, a simple £15 hand held code reader from an online auction site may be helpful in telling you the problem. I use one on my Triumph, it works a treat. I've even noticed that adaptor leads are available (around £12) to connect OBDII devices to vehicles which don't have OBDII style ports, but I have never used those myself.

Hai there , i’ve the same issue with the cel. I can forced it at 4200/4400 rpm maintain the trothle at that speed . The store tells me to wait for a remapping of the ecu in september by motoguzzi, but when …..

I’m a longtime Guzzi owner with a new V7 850. My bike only has 600 miles, but it’s been flawless so far. (Fingers crossed) I’m sure the dealer will get it sorted as there really isn’t too much to go wrong on this bike. One of the sensors (or sensor connections) is the most likely culprit. The only other things I can think of are a cat issue or possibly a evap canister issue. I’ve been in your situation, so I hope it’s gets sorted soon. Keep us updated!

Mot failure now so in theory the bike is not road worthy. Is it an obd plug that you may be able to code read yourself. I've plugged into Triumphs with my car code reader and read/cleared faults.

Have you tried contacting/ringing mg customer services yourself . To Log a complaint. In the car world the customer has more leverage than the dealer. Maybe start with the sales of goods act that it is not fit for purpose? Lambda/oxygen sensors generally cause a misfire when they wrongly report a rich mixture and the ecu weakens off the mixture to much. An ecu generally detects misfire via the crankshaft sensor which looks at the crank rotation speed between cylinder pulses. It may be timing issue. Hope they sort it promptly for you. I Spend a fair bit of my time in lyme regis lovely part of the uk

My check engine light just came on. I have less than 100 miles on my 850 Special. I'm very interested in hearing what the solution will be? I haven't taken my bike to the dealer yet, I live in Arizona USA and I'm waiting for cooler weather.

Piaggio have owned Guzzi for over 20 years and the customer service is still awful.

Just this kind of review needed for my next purchase to sort out wich brand to trow away... Thanks. Moto Guzzi are OFF

Why you still drive on the wrong side of the road .....its 2022 😂😂😂 anyhow cool video and cool bike sir , greetings from the Netherlands everyone ❤️

Its so sad we put so much faith in electronics,cars are the same now.. The oily bits are usually fine,its damn sensors and ecus that ruin it these days...

Sorry…. Just a bad connection somewhere? Sensitive to vibration?

I like your accent mate, just a subtle hint of west country. I hope you get this annoying problem fixed soon.

I'm having similar issues with my V85TT. Replace the oil temperature sensor on the left cylinder head. They are a pain to get, $50 and a month wait. Very easy to do and solves many many many fueling issues. You can thank me later....LOL On mine it has malfunctioned since day one. It gives erratic numbers to the ECU and it doesn't know if it should have lean or rich mixture. Most of the time the main symptom is rough idle and pinging when very hot.

A Vespa dealer told me Piaggio were terrible to deal with. So bad that after more than 40 years of selling them he gave up with the brand.

Before Moto Guzzi increased the capacity of the V7 to 850cc this year, arguably it was indeed underpowered. I suspect that's why some people are mentioning it, as the 750cc version pumped out about 50bhp or thereabouts. Pretty poor. Even at 850cc, 64bhp is still rather mediocre, and keeps it ahead of the RE Interceptor (as it should, bearing in mind that is 650cc), but more importantly the 850 V7 has good low down grunt being a V twin. As for your engine warning light, when dropping a gear and loading the motor up instigates the problem, that is a strong clue that any competent workshop should be able to remedy. I do not think its the sensors, or the ECU, which is probably a ubiquitous Bosch unit used by many manufacturers. I'm not sure the V7 has an IMU for cornering ABS, traction control, like my Ducati, but that is a more likely culprit if it does?

Retired mechanic here, does owners manual say anything about a flashing light ? A flashing light can mean the pcm detects a misfire that it can see thru a crank sensor and you may not feel. Give Moto Guzzi a chance to fix, new standards are causing problems for all manufacturers.

For the price of £14 00, try fitting O2 sensor spacers, should make the O2 less sensitive, until the fix is found. .

Nice film! Nice bike! I hope you get that light sorted out. One thing about the ICE engines. Those are political goals. Let's see if they stick to it in the future. According to the latest IPCC report, the global average temperature is not rising, and hasn't done so since -17. And the level of CO2 is not rising either, its at the same level as it was in -12. So maybe they think twice when they realize that the traffic we have, can't all be electric.

My street twin first service £275 at Triumph dealer bloody expensive and no valve check.

D A N G E R O U S D A V E. Overtake King redefining what Speed is. No wonder the oxygen sensors plays up. You're practically in hyper space. Do you think Pete will still be around when only electric cars are for sale?

Hi!... I am Sorry... sinceramente this problem in my Moto Guzzi V7 Special not verifycated in 3700 miglia...in Italy...the Bike in this Moment Is OK...No Spie...no..led ..the Spy Red Is strangers!🤷

Oh dear 🙁. Such a shame this issue is spoiling your enjoyment of the bike as you clearly love it otherwise. You'd think MG would be able to interrogate the ecu for a code and concentrate on that instead of hitting it with a "parts canon". It's clearly not fit for purpose at the moment. My guess is that now you'd rather carry on and hopefully get a resolution especially with the considerable time and money already invested in this bike - rather than accept a replacement? It's very frustrating indeed though. Fortunately (for MG) it's not your only bike or means of transport. If you used it for your commute that would up the ante somewhat. But, then again it shouldn't matter.

i liked the Guzzi 850 but your problem has put me off considering one.

Well sir, you bought a Guzzi, but, apparently, somewhere inside, you believed, you bought a Honda 😀 THIS is the whole "fun" with these bikes - you ALL THE TIME will have to take cere of you Guzzi ☝😆 Maybe they, eventually, will fix THAT problem, but a new one will sooner, or later, appear.....🤢 My V85TT - NEW - got f...ed up by the first service updates, more than a month ago !!! - and still - NO FIX !!! But I never expected it to be a Honda 🤷‍♂️ Because - can ANY Honda, today, provide the feeling of Guzzies' engine ? - maybe a Harley can, but they need even more attention + they cost muuuuuch more......

There’s a channel called RRR (ride, race, refuel I think) he’s testing the same bike as yours and his check light flashes as he accelerates. Worth a look.

My KTM had the screen reboot 2x in the first 4K miles which killed the throttle 100%, whilst moving on the Mway. Told the KTM man, he just shrugged his shoulders. 8K more miles later, not happened again. The more electronics they put in these things I guess.

This was going to be my next bike, not now

Italian engineering bound to be bad connections loose earth favourite

Be "happy" you don't have Cruise Control.... On my one it was put out of commission by the first-services' soft 💩 updates, more than a month ago - STILL NO fix ‼🤬

Sort it yourself. Not difficult.

That's one of the reasons we called them Moto Goofy

Use property misrepresentation act give bike back. Feel so sorry for you. Utter rubbish.never will I buy one