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Still The Best Nation For World Conquest (Spoiler: Not Ottomans) - EU4 1.35 Oirat Guide 

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This is a guide for Oirat in Europa Universalis IV.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Opening moves
01:50 First war
05:54 Conquest of Korchin
07:49 Second war against Ming
08:37 Manchurian conquests
10:12 Collapse of Ming
15:55 Conquest of Uzbek
17:15 Forming Yuan
18:05 What to do next

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Комментарии : 64   
@DarthFhenix55
@DarthFhenix55 Год назад
If you want to easily truce reset Ming you should declare war on the tributary the same day you peace out Ming.
@vartosu11
@vartosu11 Год назад
yup, or just in the same month at least. Doing this won't allow them to account for their new loans that'll be taken out at the end of month, thus AI will foolishly join and then realize they're in bad straits.
@Peaceful_Bomb
@Peaceful_Bomb Год назад
When I play as an Oirat I always fully conquer Ming, destroying the mandate, then I waiting for Manchu to form so you will have all Mongol Oirat Khalkha Uyghur and Manchu culture provinces in Chinese culture group, it is not necessary but so fun to see one big culture group at the map. P.S after forming horde Yuan I moving capital to Manchuria region, and after make trade companies in every trade node outside Girin and Nippon, so you have 2 starting traders to only 2 of trade nodes in Far East region, and every other node gives you merchants by trade companies, like having trade ideas without taking it 😎😎😎 P.P.S. After conquering some provinces in India I always choose Hinduism as syncretic religion which gives you all tolerance and access to hindu monuments which gives another tolerance (kinda having humanism ideas without taking it), core creation cost, minimum autonomy. After you will big enough, after right trade managing you will have access to economic hegemon which gives additional minimum autonomy in territories. I don't remember correctly but it was about 60% minimum autonomy in territories, which cost no governing cost after you build courthouses everywhere.
@havucluportakal8587
@havucluportakal8587 Год назад
Great mechanisms, I will make sure to use them in my games. Horde gameplay always frightens me since I enjoy less aggressive gameplays. Letting Manchu form is 300iq
@2009worstyearever
@2009worstyearever Год назад
there is also that Sikh monument you can take to lower it further but you have to abandon hinduism for Sikh
@SugarRushBob
@SugarRushBob Год назад
Oirat remains my favorite nation to play. Got to love the "That's the horde life" quote :p
@MasterBeiberEverything
@MasterBeiberEverything 11 месяцев назад
I have tried many Oirat guides to no avail. I watched this video and immediately got Khan achievement. 10/10 guide
@LegateLynx
@LegateLynx Год назад
I got really lucky on Ironman recently- Esen Taishi died within a year, right as I started vs Ming. Unfortunately, in the peace deal you can take provinces such that you form an exclave. Then you’re stuck in with no access from Ming or Yarkand. So I did back up a save- the alternative was to fight Uzbek, Great Horde, Chagatai, Yarkand, and Jaunpur at the same time. 2x declare on Ming. First is your tumu crisis war, second is on Kara Del, third could be Mong Mao or perhaps Haixi. Then nocb an ally of Uzbek, Merc over force limit. Nocb Kazan, then peace out Uzbek. Win vs Kazan, peace out and take a border with Great Horde. Finally peace out great horde. Then you hope Poland didn’t choose a Jagiellon, conquer in Lithuania and take a lot of Catholic provinces. Then do the same with Poland, border Bohemia. Then you become Catholic and HRE. After that just time your tribal conquests right after truces end.
@historyepicvids
@historyepicvids 4 месяца назад
With hordes ideas + religiuos ideas you can convert provincies very fast. That's my favourite combination ideas
@garfunkle4176
@garfunkle4176 Год назад
love these vids bro ive picked up so much from your channel!
@vsemagy4
@vsemagy4 Год назад
За ойрата можно взорвать сунитов, чтобы они покрестили тебе страну и ты принял суннизм, потом поменять культуру на нужную для формирования моголов и стать моголом, по сути это имба так как за ойрата ты можешь быстро закрасить индию, а благодоря могольским квестам получить 10 админ эфишенси, +из суннита можно принять одну из лучших религий в игре это сикхизм по кнопке
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo Год назад
Моголами приятнее играть, но все же ордой можно захватить мир быстрее. Для орды индуизм лучше будет, просто из-за толерантности и core cost reduction, плюс индуистские монументы просто топ для wc. Ещё можно за моголов сформировать Тибет и стать ордой, закончив их миссии, но это уже совсем минмаксинг.
@freddekl1102
@freddekl1102 Год назад
Tl;dr don't click "we're all Mongols" as it's useless and there's a strat to be horde(!) Yuan with Mandate(!) This event for re-uniting mongols is a trap, all Altaic provinces switch to Sino-Altaic upon forming Yuan so effects of the decision you took literally has no effect, you'd be better off with +3 promoted cultures (not that it hugely matters) Also this strat with declaring on China first is valid (and I personally like this more, as it's not as sweaty) but it's better to wait for Ming war when your starting ruler dies- he's old and general so couple years max, and with new ruler (20 y/o probably) you get those bonuses from Tumu Crisis (morale of armies, siege ability) for his entire life So Chagatai->wrecking Timur is that more OP strat, also you'll guarantee Timuridsplosion Building up from this, there's a strat of doing that and in like 20 years 1)grabbing Mandate 2)forming Persia(removes Celestial Empire gov reform, keeps Mandate) 3)form Tibet, click through missions to become horde 4)form Yuan Congrats, absolutely broken fcking omega horde Yuan with mandate. Though I don't recommend it as video idea, as other smaller youtubers have done this (e.g. okaki sandai)
@Shaman42069
@Shaman42069 Год назад
I'm dying to know this: does the Celestial Empire > Persia > Horde tactic still work? I heard from many who exploited it that the devs would definitely remove it in this patch
@erhansolhan9564
@erhansolhan9564 Год назад
Playing as Oirat with only cavalry/artillery armies is so fun
@carltonleboss
@carltonleboss Год назад
Love these videos, man.
@kylekelly1167
@kylekelly1167 Год назад
Fun fact Solon is not a horde.
@Riotdrone
@Riotdrone Год назад
long live eu4
@szymonkaliszewski5137
@szymonkaliszewski5137 Год назад
going for the ming right at the start of the game is already a misplay, way more efficient (and i mean waaay more efficient) is to became a tributary, conquer manchu tribes and then attack ming. You make mongolia loyal easier, you get the renessaince so you don't pay additional 50% for tech and after your ruler dies when you get event for +20% morale it lasts for much longer
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo Год назад
Originally there was a section where I tell about this strat, but I cut it out because it relies on RNG a lot more. For less established players it's better to declare right away just because starting ruler is a great general, and it's easier to predict what Ming is going to do. Also you don't have to wait for your Khan to die before declaring on Ming, which he can do in the first year, or survive until 1480-s. But it's true that it's a lot better to wait for maximum efficiency, just wasn't sure if it's going to work as a guide.
@joaquingarcia915
@joaquingarcia915 Год назад
cool video keep it up
@kylekelly1167
@kylekelly1167 Год назад
So yesterday in my game my ally of Hungary that I have 90 trust with as this tag landed troops in north Africa to kill my rebels. Some how the game gave me the reward for subjecting keroea by making him a tributary. He to walks around killing my rebels.
@Ased7777777
@Ased7777777 Год назад
Круто, недавно думал, можно ли сформировать юань и как. Вот и ответ) как всегда за контент. Вопрос, а можно ли сделать Махаяну, главной религией по решениям для юаня?
@Rosemarie_and_tomato
@Rosemarie_and_tomato Год назад
Через фокус с анимизом тенгри переходит легко в кого угодно, но махаяна слабее чистого тенгри/индуизма. Махаяну в ролике взяли, чтобы вывести отношения к язычникам на +1, так они не дают дебафов почти. Связка гумка+жёлтый шаманизм делает то же самое
@normalekk
@normalekk Год назад
14:19 Why first option is better? As empire after forming Yuan, you will accept all that cultures anyway.
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo Год назад
Mostly because of banners after you form Mongol Empire, though +3 accepted culture slots is also very good, so depends on what do you want the most.
@camandros099
@camandros099 Год назад
@CoolBonobo just a reminder that war exhaustion increases coring costs :)
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo Год назад
Wish there was a built-in reminder for this, I constantly forget about this fact :-(
@siinuxxblume5123
@siinuxxblume5123 11 месяцев назад
Just a thing i noticed after a few games of oirat. Forming Yuan usually doesnt really do anything. 5% admin efficiency and +5% ccr are irrelevant(for a horde) compared to 5 discipline, more manpower and -15% AE and you can also start using trade companies on ming immediatly and you dont really have to focus on ming either, since there is no point destroying him asap.
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo 11 месяцев назад
True, but Yuan has one of the prettiest colors in the game.
@jorgex2000
@jorgex2000 10 месяцев назад
You can keep ideas and get the nicer color.
@user-js2qb3bu1h
@user-js2qb3bu1h 11 месяцев назад
try beat chagatai&uzbek alliance first, make uzbek surrender to touch kazan, and chagatai to touch trs.then conquer mng. try to make your ruler die before you win tumubao, in order to get a longer 20% military buff with your young new ruler.
@user-js2qb3bu1h
@user-js2qb3bu1h 11 месяцев назад
my way is chagatai-ming-mingtributary-kazan-nogai-trs(backstab when he fight with timurid)-mos-lit-nov
@Mornomgir
@Mornomgir 8 месяцев назад
there is a couple of bugs here. 1, you might have the emperor and the event for siege doesnt fire. I started a new game moments ago and it took 8 atempts for it to fire. The game sometimes misses out that you have the emp. If he dies in captivity start over. Also make sure your own troops start the siege. If you are buddies with mongolia or if you have a merc stack or mercs in a stack and they start the siege the event wont fire. Atleast it didnt for me. Also the emperors son is a general in one of them stacks as well. Kill him too if possible. In all MY games where the emperor survives and the event fires i had killed him too. That was the only way i could get it ot work. So if you got shit RNG or suffer from the bugs. Do this. It has yet to fail. I ran it 5 times to try and get as much as possible from ming with as little manpower loss as possible.
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo 8 месяцев назад
Interesting, it's always been finicky, but didn't require THAT much RNG. Thank you for the tips, shame it's that buggy.
@Mornomgir
@Mornomgir 8 месяцев назад
@@CoolBonobo Its been a long time since i did an Oirat run and had no issues back then. Did some googling and its not uncommon for the event to muck itself up. I also was not allowed mandate of heaven CB in that same run. Dont know if thats a mechanic im unware of or a bug.
@CheezeLord
@CheezeLord Год назад
Everyone knows that the best nation (and also best japanese nation) for wc is majapahit You should try Majapahit shogunate thingy Upd: Also you should've taken Humanist+Horde, after that rebels will be just unpleasant memory
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo Год назад
Humanist + horde is a little bit overkill though. IMO, they're good as fourth or third idea
@mohamedjear8917
@mohamedjear8917 Год назад
I have just done a Khaaan achievement run as Oirat to Yuan to Mongol Empire, I recommend taking Horde/Humanist/espionage as your first three national ideas. The thing I struggled with the most was the economy, maybe the solution is to play around with trade nodes, any tips ?
@aluminiumknight4038
@aluminiumknight4038 Год назад
you want to get a merchant from every trade node. I like to TC 1 big state (5 provinces) in each trade node and build the TC buildings in it to get a merchant and dont have any trade buildings outside that state. then play around with your merchants to figure out the best set up
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo Год назад
It's ok to be in red as horde until you setup the trade. Just make sure you don't spend too much and take money from your enemies in the peace deal. Beijing is good trade node, it's enough to collect trade from whole East Asia, Persia is also good one, though it's quite far away, and Novgorod is the best and easily achievable, considering that conquering Muscovy is not that difficult.
@mohamedjear8917
@mohamedjear8917 Год назад
@@CoolBonobo After I formed the mongol Empire and got the Pax mongolica mission I moved my trade node to persia, trade-companied the rest of asia (except my cores in mongolia and china) and used the newly acquired merchants to steer trade to persia and collect there, I ended being in the green with 50+ in the balance with full cav and artirally armies. The trick is in the trade, tax and production are trash as hordes.
@sasi5841
@sasi5841 Год назад
Id say the best tier 1 govt reforms are the russian empire, ottoman/rum goverment, and the great mongol state
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo Год назад
Well, great mongol state is basically buffed horde. I still think that horde is the strongest just because it removes literally all mana bottleneck, Ottomans and Rum can spam eyalets, but it's not the same as just generating hundreds of mana from razing.
@rabidfurify
@rabidfurify Год назад
Hordes are completely broken and IMO extremely unfun but I can understand why people like them (you can just conquer with nothing holding you back really except manpower and rebels). They basically change the rules of the game so even the super OP governments like Ottomans and Mughals don't compare
@rasplay5761
@rasplay5761 Год назад
What about one province minor for wc and one culture ?)
@IronWolf123
@IronWolf123 Год назад
Colonial China guide?
@viceconsulimhotepienenobed1573
Tried, actually drowning under loans. I lose 30 per month, I think I won't be able to succeed.
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo Год назад
30 per month? Good deficit Is 1-10, maybe short spikes to 30 during wartime. I guess you pay too much for the army, and don't delete forts. Forts as hordes are good only to contain rebels, you can delete them. Same goes for the army, downsize. Hordes are poor, but not THAT poor. Conquer Siberian trade node to consolidate Beijing, and conquer everything upstream. Also always take max money plus war reps. The problem also might be that you are not aggressive enough, hordes should always be at war. Looting + money from peace deal make war profitable as hordes.
@viceconsulimhotepienenobed1573
@@CoolBonobo I was not taking max money but max land, I now understand my error. Thanks a lot. I also recruited another mercenary company. You didn't talk about developing institutions. What about that ? And should I state some cored provinces ?
@dakota6050
@dakota6050 5 месяцев назад
If you ransack ming for all its money you generally should be fine until you conquer all of china then money wont be a huge issue anymore
@tigrecito48
@tigrecito48 Год назад
does anyone know how to form either mongolia or one of the nations mongolia can form later by starting as another nation? i got told a long time ago if you play as england u can form mongolia and end up with both mission trees at the same time... i need to give away english land to vassals? i already did a war with oirat after like 30 years. My wars so far - France (PU) - Denmark (support independence of Sweden) - Sweden & Teutonics (backstab Sweden) - Poland (release teutonics and reconquest to get Prussia vassal cos I love having Prussia as a vassal) - Novgorod - Muscovy - Kazan & Uzbek - Oirat. I was thinking I just need a war or 2 more to take all oirat & mongolia to form mongolia.. im guessing i can only get 50% mongol culture by giving away virtually all the land i got so far? or is there another way? thanks for any info (id like basically to be english colonial and form either mongol empire or mughals or something asap)
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo Год назад
You don't need to form Mongolia, just culture shift to its culture. Mongolian and Tatar missions are tied to culture, not tag. To culture shift just unstate your provinces with wrong culture, and state ones with Mongolian, no need to give anything away.
@tigrecito48
@tigrecito48 Год назад
@@CoolBonobo ok will try it.. but you need to have 50% culture from all provinces also or just the stated ones? thing is i was hoping to form mongol empire or something later... but guess i cant do that as great britain right? even with mongol culture?
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo Год назад
Just stated ones, and Great Britain is an end game tag, so no, you won't be able to form anything unfortunately
@tigrecito48
@tigrecito48 Год назад
@@CoolBonobo ok thanks.. but the only way to have both mission trees is to form gb right? or im getting confused otherwise
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo Год назад
It doesn't matter what nation you're playing, mongol missions will appear anyway. Although if you form Mongol Empire British missions will go away
@ihwan6328
@ihwan6328 Год назад
sunni yuan is also good
@Slayformoney
@Slayformoney Год назад
first
@drew4263
@drew4263 Год назад
No advisors for over 10 years?lol
@CoolBonobo
@CoolBonobo Год назад
Had more than enough mana, not enough money. Ming's bank is not going to last for long, so it's better to ration it early game.
@SJ-xb7lg
@SJ-xb7lg Год назад
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@Podzhagitel
@Podzhagitel Год назад
cool video keep it up
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