Bret and Sting always speak so highly of each other in such a genuine way. Sad they never got a huge program but their bond and respect for one other is heartwarming.
Bret in a very recent interview listed Sting as one of the safest and easiest people to work with in the ring. It truly is a warm mutual respect and quite an underrated one within the business.
According to bret hart after Owen died sting called bret and stu hart to give his condolences and said if they had a problem with him rappelling into the ring he would stop out of respect to the hart family. It totally caught bret and stu off guard and they told him his gimmick he should do it the way he wants to do it and they wouldn't see it as disrespectful to Owen. So yea they got extreme mutual respect for one another
just so it's clear, Sting has had one of the greatest careers in professional wrestling. and he has wrestled some of the biggest stars in the history of the business that being said...sometimes I wish the guy worked in WWE in his prime. THink of the matches he could have had with Undertaker, Bret, Owen Hart, Rock, Edge, Cena etc.
Always came across as an upstanding fellow from that era, save for those claims made by Vampiro about Sting not wanting to work with him when they two of them had one of the best angles together in 2000.
What a solid guy. He puts Bret over here without being mopey -- just a joke and his genuine thoughts. For the longest time, Sting felt like the only guy who was a huge wrestling star who hadn't fallen into bed with Vince or needed the WWE's promotional machinery to make him relevant. He was, and remains, a brilliant worker with bucketloads of charisma
@@coachmikesfilmroom3111 Yes, and he actually just calls it the way sees it. Doesn’t have to kiss ass because he needs a job, doesn’t sugarcoat his opinions. We should be thankful there is a wrestler who is that honest and doesn’t give a f$&k. Instead people hate him for it
In one Interview, Brett said that he asked another wrestler to teach him the "Scorpion Deathlock" so that he could use it as a finisher. I don't remember who the wrestler was that taught it to him, but it may indicate that Brett liked Sting's work.
It was a Japanese wrestler who thought bret then him and his dad tweaked it to make it his own ...the original version is similar to the submission Edge used
Sting will always be the GOAT! Still can’t believe I saw him at a gas station and didn’t recognize him. It was just before he debuted the crow gimmick and his hair was different and I couldn’t place him without his face paint.
@@Joe_Friday same height and build as him, and he also lived in the same city as I did and it was while he was on hiatus just before he was getting ready to debut his crow look. He was wearing a tank top with a scorpion on the back which is when it finally clicked for me. I was predominately a WWF guy and was not too familiar with WCW guys. I knew of Sting, saw him on tv a handful of times, but because he was out of makeup, I didn’t put two and two together and after we were driving away and because of the location of the gas station, it was too late to turn around.
@@charflambe1994 no: Ricky Choshu used it first, then Sting. Brett wasn't even the first to use it in the WWF: Ronnie Garvin, Ted DeBiase and Davey Boy Smith used the move before he did. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3v10fWle_D0.html
@@skippythealien9627 Only a few guys I can think of who had beef with him. Warrior said he's a POS. Vampiro said he was shit & needed to get over himself. Dick Slater got into it with him because Sting had an affair with his gf, Dark Journey. And Bret apparently called Sting a wuss in hos book for not fighting back when Slater went after him.
I love sting! The most positive dude in professional wrestling God 🙏 bless you man never has a bad word to say about anyone, just like people have already mentioned here he is definitely a Classy Guy.
Sting!!!! Wow!!! What can you say? I followed his whole career from day 1. What an amazing man, and A-1 talent. AEW..please utilize this KING 👑 the right way. One of the best pro wrestling has ever seen. Total class act!!! Thank you...STINGER for all of the great memories!
Sting is so loved and respected by the fans and he is so cool that no matter how hard he tried he could never pull off the heel he is always the good guy to me.
@@rylandweet7750 Scorpian Deathlock is based on the actual original name though. Sasori-Gatame which directly translates as Scorpian hold (As the legs of the opponent look like a Scorpian's tail). Sharpshooter is named after Bret. Scorpian Deathlock is the actual english name for the move.
Sting and Bret never had any backstage heat with each other. They had mutual respect. Sting wouldn’t say multiple times that he liked Bret if he didn’t. Bret convinced Sting to stop doing the stage drop from the ceiling after Owen’s death. The fact is, many, many, many legit wrestlers don’t have a bad word to say about Bret. Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, HHH, and HBK hate bret, but when you’re the best not everyone’s going to love you. Also when WCW was purchased by WWE they never really gave sting a shot. If I recall they brought sting in to do a couple jobs for triple H to build up HHH and the cut him. So the same people treated sting like crap too.
That's why sting didn't go to wwe for almost 15 years after wcw because he knew the wwe wouldn't give him the same respect as a talent as wcw did. Sting is one of the all time greats he seems to be in good enough shape for one more run.
You got some of that wrong my dude, Kevin Nash actually likes and respects Bret a lot, and the same goes in reverse. As for Hogan I don't think there's any real hate for anyone, he was just always in it for himself is all. Caused a lot of BS that shouldn't have ever been. Scott Hall turned into a drug-addicted douche but HBK turned his life around completely and befriended The Hitman later on.
@@Laerun Scott hall is now clean and sober thanks to ddp yoga. Shawn Michaels changed himself and got clean and became a born again Christian. Hulk hogan is the asshole who made it all about himself. He and vince Russo killed WCW
Actually he asked Bret and he talked to the family and they didn't mind sting dropping from the rafters. That's why he kept doing it long after Owen's death. That's just how respectable he is
Sting always had great energy and really pumped up the crowd. Had a great look to him, athletic, and pretty strong. Brett was also a great worker but was more of a technical wrestler that took the business very serious. His seriousness made the matches look very legit. Brett Was great at selling and understood that if he also made his opponents look great he would have great matches. I dont really care who came up with that finisher, they were both my favorites growing up (:
Yeah, that's basically why Sting was my favorite. Never was a technician, but he's one of the most charismatic wrestlers ever, and he was a great athlete on top of that. In terms of pure athleticism, he may have had better leaping ability than any other wrestler of his size. 6'2" 250lb dudes shouldn't have that kind of hang time...but Sting did! And it made high spots out of seemingly mundane moves like dropkicks and splashes. Along with the great gimmick, he was solid on the mic. Never had the "catchphrases" that get printed on T-shirts and move merchandise (but he did have the masks that used to just be everywhere), but he was a good actor. He was believable, well-spoken, and coherent in his interviews/promos, and it never felt phoned-in or stilted. I'd say Sting was a better promo than Bret and he had a better look. Better athlete too. Certainly not the technician, not a ring general, but just solid all around and exceptionally physically gifted.
Sting starting using that Finisher in the 1980s Year's before Bret Hart ever used. Sting learned it in New Japan which that's it's real Name The Scorpion Death-Lock and something else. Than when Bret became a Singles Wrestler in Mid 1991 he asked the Guys in the Locker room if they could teach him how to do that Finisher. Whivh he claims he only saw it in Japan again Bret Hart lies like a Bastard. When this is 1991 and Sting is a Huge Ass Superstar Bigger than Bret Hart ever was especially than. Bret was a nobody even after he finally got the Belt but you can say his top year's we're in 93-94 and WWF was st an all-time low with him as Champion. And Sting became a Star in the 1980s while Bret was in a Tag Team from 85-91. Sting was huge in 87,88 and 1989 was when he exploded with the 50 minute draw with Ric Flair at Clash Of The Champions whih was up against Survivor Series or WrestleMania I think. And than with his Masterpiece vs Ric Flair where Flair put him on the Map I think it was Starrcade up vs Survivor Series which Vince threatened half the cable companies to not show it. And they did huge Numbers which that event blew out Survivor Series and I'm a WWF Guy. Send that's the Night sting wore The American Flag Color Face Paint and that Attire and Won The NWA World's Heavyweight Championship. And in the Clash Of The Champions match in 1989 or 88 Sting was all in Pink with Black Scorpion. So Bret Hart bit off Sting Big time and attire and finishing move. And the only reason people call it the Sharpshooter send think Bret used it first was cuz The WWF was world Wide and Vince knew how to promote as NWA and WCW was stuck in the South for Year's.
@@bigkev3184 Convenient that you left out the fact that Pat Patterson was the one who suggested that Bret use it and the fact that Bret was familiar with it. Konnan taught him the move in 1991. You can hate Bret if you want but you dont need to lie to try to make him look bad. I like how you wrote this rant on a nice comment
Bret Hart actually admitted in his documentary "The best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be", he stated, "Everyone thinks I invented it or learned it from my dad but actually the sharpshooter was just a move I saw a few times, and I asked some people backstage to teach me it...I think it was called the Scorpion Deathlock back then...and that's actually how it came about". I always wondered on how well they actually got along.
lolamar yes I agree Sting and the Undertaker are probably the classiest wrestlers that ever lived and I wish more of them were that way. You can tell just by the way they talk. Fuck the rest!
Sting definitely used the hold first and he credited Chosu for teaching him. Bret was tagging with Neidhart. But most WWF/WWE fans are blind to the fact that Sting used the scorpion deathlock around 1987-88 about a year before Hart... #Fact
Sting is so humble! He can’t even say that he had 4 yrs on top of Bret Hart. Sting was wrestling single matches while Bret was still in the Hart Foundation.
Robert you realize that sting never drew money despite being respected and such right, every time they put the title on him the company bled money, so they had to take it off. As much as people praise him, he never generated anything. No one will ever forget Bret the guy was pretty much the fall back guy in WWE every time someone failed or lost the company money he pulled the company back and kept it afloat. Remember when Flair, Kevin Nash, Michaels, Yoko, and even Taker has the belt and the company lost revenue, yes during that time wrestling was losing money but Bret actually kept it afloat and drew more money. Also the guy made Austin put him over and is widely regarded as the pros pro, the damn dude is a legend all over the world. Sting love the guy but no don’t be changing history you can’t it takes maybe 20 minutes to look stuff up and realize you are wrong try it.
You really thought the feud was that good? I thought it had its moments but ultimately was lackluster considering what all they could have done with the feud and the places they could have gone with it. I think they really missed the boat, for one reason or another, on creating one of the most legendary feuds in the history of wrestling with the two of them. I think they ultimately should have had a hold vs hold match. Scorpion Death Lock vs The Sharpshooter. That would have been a natural finish to the feud to settle it. But I'm not sure if either one of them would have wanted to do the job to their own hold. And well, we all know how Bret can be when it comes to losing a match in any fashion sometimes.
Sting would've been happy to job for Bret, knowing Bret's propensity to throw a bitch fit whenever things don't go the way he wants them to go. Sting on the other hand is a team player who puts his company first, is willing to lose when the script and booker tell him to lose and never whines about it like Bret does.
@@MainEventMafia4Life lol bret doesn't wanna do the job 1 time in his career and now "we all know how bret is when it comes to losing"? Cmon man that's just dumb. He always lost when he was supposed to except Montreal.
@@joshuaa1605 - You took what I said a bit out of context. Of course Bret has done the job numerous times in his career. But considering how serious he takes his legacy as he was trying to create it and after he retired, do you honestly think he would have been comfortable doing a job to Sting in submitting in a hold he feels he made as much of a household name as him CLEAN in the ring? Between the 2 of them Sting would have probably been the one willing to do the honors first. Bret was always about protecting himself and how he looked to the fans when a lot of times he didn't understand not everything was about him and his evolvement.
Bret and Sting should have been one for the ages. I remember being more excited for their match at Halloween Havoc than Hogan and Warrior 2 but the feud just fizzled out bc WCW dropped the ball.
Japanese wrestler Ricki Choshi used it first, Sting used it second. then brett used it when he resumed his solo career Sting used it before brett but with wwe fans living in their bubble refusing to watch other wrestling companies wouldn't know this.
The Prophet of Rage As one of the biggest Bret Hart fans as a kid, even I knew of Sting using the hold first. It didn’t matter who was first, just that it was used effectively in terms of telling a story in the ring.
Technically one could argue Bret is the only one to do the Sharpshooter since he places his left leg between his opponent's legs and turn to the left while everybody else do it with the right leg and turning on the right which would be the Scorpion Deathlock :p And Bret is not even lefthanded to justify this. When I asked him about it at an Axxess he jokingly answered "That's why it's The Sharpshooter and not everybody else's version"
The Prophet of Rage None of those guys use that hold better than Bret...none...try to dispute that, who cares about who used it first? Bret owned the shit out of the Sasori Gatame, fuck the WWE bubble, this is bigger than any argument about a bubble, even after popping that bubble, Bret's use of the hold trumps everybody else's use of it
Sting & Brett Hart were both terrific wrestlers. Loved both of these guys. They also worked well together in the ring with their matches & when they tag teamed together.
Sting's starts with the right leg while brets starts with the left. That is the difference. They both found their own respective ways to make it look different from the other. I love them both. Legends
@@derekwinkler7414 Don't know what your talking about. Bret same as Sting always put his right leg through & turned to the right. Sting would always make it look like the guy was pushing him off like he couldn't twist him over like WOW wow like is he gonna make it than dud dramatic effect than sit back. But Bret Hart made it look beautiful as much as now for the last 20+ years it's unreal how he can't seem to talk positive about anyone which us annoying as Hell. Cuz Bret Hart wasn't Great by any means he thinks he was & he doesn't hold a candle to HBK, or Ric Flair Macho Man, Hell Razor Scott Hall, Mr Perfect we're all guy that we're beyond Bret Hart & cuz of the way he was used & it's in WWF Fans heads cuz that's how they pretty much brainwashed us. Bret Hart didn't have half the Talent that his brother Owen Hart did & if they let Owen Wrestle the way he did in Canada when he was doing those crazy Ass flips that you didn't see in TV till Rey Mysterio in 96-97 Owen was doing that in the 80s which blows my mind. But him & HBK I use to love watching them Wrestle Man what Matches never had a bad one. And after the Screw Job when Owen came back with that New look pissed 📴 I thought 💭 that was the perfect chance open 🚪 for Vince McMahon & the WWF to make him the huge star & take over as the Bret Hart of the Next Generation Attitude ERA & the leader of The Hart Foundation. He was hot 🔥 at the time & it was believable they should of had him beat HBK for the WWF Title on Raw & than lost it back to HBK at DX IYH in December instead of the Shamrock match. It made perfect sense you would of had HHH screw him out of it cuz he went on to Feud with him for the European Title miss that Belt it was nasty Looking. But Owen Hart could of been World 🌎 Champion at that time & back when he had long hair & had the feud with Bret Hart & he won the King 👑 of the Ring I loved his look than all in Pink I thought he had the perfect look & I think they should of had him beat Bret at SummerSlam 94 in the Cage when Bulldog came back the Anvil turned there was so much great crap there that WWF missed on & The Hart Foundation 🆕 Formation should of started than. But why didn't Bret Hart put Owen over as WWF Champion for awhile think about it he could of easily pushed. Bret only agreed to lose at Mania cuz he was gonna Win the WWF Title later that night. Bret was all about himself that's the sad truth & that came out when he left for WCW many came out & saud what Owen Hart said Bret Hart said to him. Owen Hart didn't want to leave WWF like Bret Hart likes to make people believe he was happy there & Bret told him if you stay I'll never talk to you again your a backstabbing POS. And Vince Russo even tells a Story about Owen Hart calling him asking him to talk to Bret saying that it's true Owen wants to go but he can't get out & WCW won't do anything with him. And he even called Vince McMahon crying 😢 asking him to please tell Bret that he refused to let him out if his contract but the truth was Owen didn't want to leave he was happy in WWF & knew about the stories of WCW & that Bret would probably be okay but he could be screwing over his Career & Life for his family which you saw Bret Hart wasn't ok in WCW he did shit & Bulldog & Anvil Wrestled 1-2 matches Bulldog got hurt & they got fired less than a Year. Bret didn't do anything for them & they needed to work & than he started talking shit about bulldog putting his personal medical stuff out there cuz he signed back with WWF after Owen Died. He didn't care the Bulldog had a freaking family to support as Bret was making $3 Million Dollars a Year he didn't say offer to help his family that's what's crazy to me how these families who become rich 🤑💸💸 that we're so close have brothers and sisters poor or struggling & they don't even lend them a dime 💸 that's sum Evil 😈 dirty shit. That's bit the kinda family I was raised in & come from as I take care of my family parents & all & I have my own family & I don't have or didn't make Bret Hart money so that kinda shit makes me sick & I lose any kinda respect for people like that.
Sting is a super solid guy. Always respectful. The most interesting thing of his career is he went undefeated (29-0) in AEW while going winless (0-2) in WWE.
according to Bret's book, after he split from Anvil and went off on his own, Bret was in need of a finisher. So Vince, or was it someone else I can't remember who, advised Bret to seek out this Mexican wrestler and learn this submission move known as the "Scorpion Deathlock" from him. After that, Vince and Bret threw out a bunch of different names for the finishing hold like "Executioner," the "Eliminator," and finally Bret spit out "The Shapshooter," which they went with. So Bret never took credit for inventing, nor did he give Sting the creative credit. It was clearly around before either of them started wrestling
Rugged Ronnie Garvin used that submission hold in the WWF before Bret Hart. Interestingly, Garvin had a feud with Greg The Hammer Valentine who used the figure four leg-lock and in the NWA Sting had a feud with Nature Boy Ric Flair who also used the figure four leg-lock. (On a side note, Valentine and Flair were a tag team in the late 70's.)
Agree. I got a dvd of the Road Warriors in Japan where a Japanese put the sharp shooter on Hawk. Keep in mind, this match happened in 1984 long before Sting even used the Scorpion Death lock. The Scorpion Death or The Sharpshooter was used in Japan even before Bret or Sting were established superstars.
Hopefully most people know this, bit Sting was doing the scorpion death lock waaay before Bret took it and called the sharpshooter. To be fair, Sting didn't invent the hold either. It was called the Indian Deathlock before him
Sting vs Bret would be epic although they wrestle a few times in wcw but I feel like if Bret was still wrestling and got a chance to leave on his own terms and sting would have came in to wwf/wwe during both of their prime we would have got the best of sting vs best of bret Hart both loyal company guys and who for a long time were most of their run on top were Babyfaces would have been epic
I got a dvd of the Road Warriors in Japan where a Japanese put the sharp shooter on Hawk. Keep in mind, this match happened in 1984 long before Sting even used the Scorpion Death lock. The Scorpion Death or The Sharpshooter was used in Japan even before Bret or Sting were established superstars.
I remember the first time I saw Sting was when he was Eddie Gilbert's bodyguard. He played a heel very well, but the thing was...he had a natural charisma that put him over with fans. He had no choice, but to become a face. I remember those days of watching wrestling every Saturday night when the Von Erich's, Dusty Rhodes, etc...would come on for 3 hours. The hosts were Joe Presciano and Bonnie Blackstone. How do I remember this? Missy Hyatt was Eddie's girlfriend. I was about three years old when this was on. I have no idea, how I remember this stuff.
I remember that too. Sting, Eddie Gilbert, Rick Steiner and Missy Hyatt. Eddie Gilbert was the t.v champ and said he would wrestle anybody in the top 10. So the promoter said he had to wrestle Sting. Sting was ranked #7. I think Sting won the belt. I can't remember if he did.
Technically speaking, Sting was using the Scorpion Deathlock before Bret was using it. It originated in Japan as the "Scorpion hold" because of the way the opponent's leg is bent, resembling a Scorpion's tail. The only reason why some fans associate the move with Hart is because of WWE being a larger corporate entity than the NWA or WCW until 1996. The Scorpion Hold will always be the Scorpion Deathlock to me.
Sting is the only other wrestler, other than Bret, that I've seen put the Scorpion Deathlock on properly. Those two always put the hold on nice and tight. A lot of wrestlers, Shawn Michaels and the Rock come to mind specifically, always put the hold on too loose, IMO.
I loved their wcw feud. They had some great chemistry. Sting eventually one uped Bret with his new finisher. The scorpion death drop was and still is my favorite variation of the DDT
Bret Hart was also on WWF during the early years and Sting was on WCW, so that is a big reason why so many people think that Sting does the sharpshooter when it's really the scorpion death lock. WWF was just always the bigger promotion and seen in more places around the world.
Respect to both men! Sting is da Man and a gentleman. Bret hart a legend of pro wrestling but In my opinion Bret did the scorpion death lock/ sharp shooter better ! With do all respect to sting.
In my humble opinion - two of the greatest wrestlers of all time in their own respective ways. Bret because he was the technically perfect wrestler and Sting because he had the greatest gimmick of all time the Crow!!
This is good to see. We see so much shit talking from wrestlers about one another outside the ring. It's nice to see one that is positive. Sting has always come off as a humble guy, so this doesn't surprise me lol.
I don't recall Bret using the sharpshooter before be went solo in the 1990's but Sting was using the scorpion deathlock back in the 1980's. they are completely different moves. one is a sharpshooter and one is a scorpion deathlock see the difference
Also the name Scorpion Deathlock is very fitting for a Wrestler named Sting, a wrestler who incorporated Scorpion designs into all of his costume. Sharp Shooter sounds much more fitting for a wrestler named the Hitman, although the name Scorpion Deathlock could be at least somewhat appropriate for a Wrestler with the monkier, "The HItman."
