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Stock Golf Shafts vs EXPENSIVE Top of the Line Upgrades. 

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Do expensive golf shaft upgrades make a difference in your golf game? We tested the stock shafts vs expensive Upgrades and the results were shocking.
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@lvond555
@lvond555 2 месяца назад
All fittings should be like this.
@wmbishop22
@wmbishop22 2 месяца назад
Agreed! Potentially have the screen on to get an aim point and then turn it off or put a circle for your launch window. Then figure out which feels the best and gives the best performance.
@glennsalongo
@glennsalongo 2 месяца назад
Plus hit some irons in between
@nikmc7539
@nikmc7539 2 месяца назад
I tell some guys don’t look just hit it
@bighawk1h
@bighawk1h 2 месяца назад
Night and day between ventus and hazardous for me
@tactful_colt8536
@tactful_colt8536 2 месяца назад
I work at a golf shop and always put a little piece tape over stuff and say don’t look at this and every time without fail they look right away 😂
@Ecka63
@Ecka63 2 месяца назад
When I was fitted for my TSi4, I hit four or five stock shafts, none of which were standout performers. I tried one upgrade shaft, a Graphite Design AD6i and I stepped into a whole new world of performance and feel. I had zero hesitation in parting with the extra cash and better yet, zero buyers remorse.
@jonathanwhitegolf
@jonathanwhitegolf Месяц назад
I just upgraded to a AD6S and I love mine.
@todpharis4996
@todpharis4996 2 месяца назад
This was a great idea. I have watched thousands of fitting videos and have never seen this. Turning the screen off is very smart. Love this.
@streamleazefishhouse
@streamleazefishhouse 2 месяца назад
I'm not sure turning the screen off is as great an idea as it is first thought. Unless you play golf in the dark, you are meant to adapt to what you see.. What would make the experiment better, is if the the shafts had a random order of play for their repeats. So not hitting x shots with number 1, then repeating with number 2. They should be randomly mixed, to limit warming up and fatigue bias.
@codycarson8328
@codycarson8328 Месяц назад
I think most players would hit better
@dudosmokokos
@dudosmokokos 2 месяца назад
Excellent! I loved the video. I have played a lot of golf for 51 years and have bought a lot of golf gear and I know what’s good for me through expensive trial & error. I have concluded that the “right shaft upgrade” will perform best in dispersion and distance. And he’s right, I knew after 3 balls which was the right shaft for me. If you’re going to buy the shaft upgrade, try at least 5 shafts.
@davet5780
@davet5780 2 месяца назад
That was brilliant Matt! The fact that there are some stock shafts among the best performing (including a regular stiff) indicates that good quality fitting can make a big difference. The tricky bit is finding a fitter with the required level of knowledge.
@DaGolfViking
@DaGolfViking 2 месяца назад
You really put a ton of effort into that video. Really appreciate ya. Good stuff.
@TNAGolf
@TNAGolf 2 месяца назад
Best test here! Love how you even turned off the screen so it was all based on feel and each shaft differs from each player so it was nice to see what shafts work for you. I love testing new shafts. It’s like a game for me haha
@wankim2741
@wankim2741 2 месяца назад
Good test. Makes me feel good about my Ventus TR purchase yesterday 😂
@TP-fs3uz
@TP-fs3uz 2 месяца назад
This is called confirmation bias. Just because he liked it doesn't mean you should too. Hope it all works out though! :D
@joshpalo1325
@joshpalo1325 2 месяца назад
What a great vid!!! Well done, informative and entertaining!
@dkim629
@dkim629 2 месяца назад
What a great comparison video!
@dougcook1176
@dougcook1176 2 месяца назад
Great work on this one Mr. Short Game. You put in a lot of time to bring us great video's. thanks
@ash283880
@ash283880 2 месяца назад
I would pay for a premium shaft but not $350. I'm going with the kai'li blue 60g, Stiff on my Cobra Aerojet LS
@edanzore
@edanzore 2 месяца назад
Every shaft reacts differently for each person
@hallumm
@hallumm 2 месяца назад
I love your excitement! I am a Middle School science teacher and I teach my students how to do "good" science. I enjoyed how you did this test and eliminated the placebo effect. Very good science sir. You posted all the numbers except for the "worst" one in the group. It was shaft #1.
@marybetheby5184
@marybetheby5184 2 месяца назад
Golf is Science...👍
@silvermediastudio
@silvermediastudio Месяц назад
2020-2022 gave you the best example since witch hunting of what science isn't. what a life.
@brocks2625
@brocks2625 2 месяца назад
This was very informative and thanks for making it!!
@rickcudmore8156
@rickcudmore8156 2 месяца назад
From what I have watched in previous videos, the upcharge shafts did what they are designed for. Produce tighter dispersion and the ability to alter the flight of the ball. If I played 5 times a week and my hcp was dropping, the extra cost might be beneficial.
@therealbeedubbs35
@therealbeedubbs35 2 месяца назад
Best shaft review I’ve ever watched. So many others don’t take the time. Use different heads or settings etc. thank you!
@jmacdrum
@jmacdrum 2 месяца назад
Great video. I have the Tensi blue 55 stiff. Callaway Rogue draw driver. It my 3rd driver set up in the past year. Had the Ping G425 and 1st Stealth max. Callaway with Tensi blue best for me so far. 90 plus mph swing speed 225-230 or 240ish on a good day. 52 years old.
@edwardbrown6245
@edwardbrown6245 2 месяца назад
Love this video Mr short ..finally a fair test of shaft ..my favourite is the Venus blue 6R ..can’t beat it..well done buddy
@user-sb1xx4ll8p
@user-sb1xx4ll8p 2 месяца назад
Thank you for your hard work. This was quite revealing. Obvious a fitting would be in order. Love your content. I always look forward to your posts.
@joeyfranchini7499
@joeyfranchini7499 2 месяца назад
This is fantastic stuff! Thanknyounfor doing this!
@keithsingleton1698
@keithsingleton1698 2 месяца назад
LOVED THIS VIDEO! Especially liked the screen being off. A blind test for feel and sound is probably the best idea going. I might try to do something similar. Just have them turn off the screen. Don’t really care about the name on the shaft, just feel and sound. Thanks!
@gregcochennet385
@gregcochennet385 2 месяца назад
Liked the video. It’s nice to see you compare all these shafts.
@larrydavis8153
@larrydavis8153 2 месяца назад
I really enjoyed this video. I was surprised the after market shafts were so better. Very fair test!
@bluejeans8001
@bluejeans8001 2 месяца назад
Really enjoyed the video. Thanks 👍👍👍
@darenbabcock9005
@darenbabcock9005 2 месяца назад
Mr Short Game for the WIN! You've become my favorite tuber man! Keep um comin!
@allanwalker1347
@allanwalker1347 2 месяца назад
MrShortGame, awesome video on stock vs. custom shafts, very insightful.
@SigmaJAD
@SigmaJAD 2 месяца назад
Returning to golf. Delighted I found your channel. Very interesting and useful video - once again
@jpjp7410
@jpjp7410 2 месяца назад
Great test. Great video. Thanks
@ryanrich9281
@ryanrich9281 Месяц назад
Great video, going for a shaft fitting next month, can’t wait to see the results
@LeslieGreenwood-bu9tn
@LeslieGreenwood-bu9tn 2 месяца назад
Had PX evenflow 5.5 in My Epic flash, just changed it to a 6.0 & what a difference ! much tighter dispersion.
@industrialpalletworx3548
@industrialpalletworx3548 2 месяца назад
Great video. I have that Tensei AV shaft that came in last in my 3 wood. I love it. Although I haven't tried anything else in it either. Maybe it's just the head.
@yanickmaurice3653
@yanickmaurice3653 2 месяца назад
Absolutely love these kind of test and content Matt. Would love if you would do different generations of driver heads as a series (at least 4) for every major brands.
@LeslieGreenwood-bu9tn
@LeslieGreenwood-bu9tn 2 месяца назад
Well done great job man. Subscribed.
@enkilugal3282
@enkilugal3282 2 месяца назад
I have the #1 on your list - got fitted at a good national chain - I'm a 10 HI - I LOVE this golf shaft. Thank you for proving my buying choice. And yes, I spent a lot of money on these. whew!
@wiscobuckeye
@wiscobuckeye 2 месяца назад
Exactly the same here. Insane though, that with the shaft upgrade, taxes and fitting fee, my new driver cost me $1,150. I paid it, but dang, it’s an expensive club.
@garyrunevitch8521
@garyrunevitch8521 Месяц назад
Great video. This is something I have always wondered about.
@Booth72
@Booth72 2 месяца назад
This is the greatest gear shootout vid. Well done!!
@TaroZak
@TaroZak 2 месяца назад
Love this, I’m still gaming the original stealth but did go and get fit for a shaft (oct) awhile ago. Tried them ALL and landed on the Hzrdus black Gen 4 60 gram. Wasn’t an up charge shaft but it was the best fitting for me :).
@JRBinder
@JRBinder Месяц назад
I had a driver fitting recently and I feel like fitters should rename them to "driver shaft fitting" because I ended up just using my same driver head with the new shaft that was fitted and it has made a huge difference. There seems to be way more performance improvement potential in choosing a shaft vs. choosing a driver head.
@billybrickley6222
@billybrickley6222 Месяц назад
Exactly how fittings should be right here. Especially not seeing the flight. I will say when I buy a new driver I always get the stock shaft that similar to what I would play in my Ventus, I pay 350 whether I buy the shaft from a manufacturer or another source. I might as well get another shaft for the same place and give it a try
@biberdy
@biberdy 2 месяца назад
Awesome video concept and delivery.
@schlosser2010
@schlosser2010 2 месяца назад
Love to see a video on what to expect at a fitting. How to choose a fitter/ know if you will be working with a “good” one. I will need to drive < 2 hrs to do this.
@kipkapper3014
@kipkapper3014 2 месяца назад
what a great video the shaft is everything
@MarkLiversedge
@MarkLiversedge 2 месяца назад
Absolutely LOVED this video. On so many levels. I play Tensei blue AV 65 R flex and am convinced its not good for me- my club speed is also 100 like you- I thought that Stiff was for faster swing speeds. But your video makes me wonder about trying some other shafts.
@erock1070
@erock1070 2 месяца назад
Hi Matt. Great video. On the Ventus shafts can you double check and make sure they all say Velocore near the tip section ? I saw some taylormade grips and their version is not a true velocore shaft
@user-eh9vk1dd1f
@user-eh9vk1dd1f 2 месяца назад
I love this !!!!! As a feel player and a 1.2 index this was great to watch. So many players get caught up in the numbers and not how it feels . If the club and shaft does not feel good, you’re not going to hit that great in my experience. Plus a a lot of fitters will sell you the premium shaft because that’s where they make the money . We’ll done sir , great video .
@RedRoss21
@RedRoss21 Месяц назад
Was listening to Anthony's interview with LIV. Well done sir! Great questions!
@codydunagan6439
@codydunagan6439 2 месяца назад
This was neat!!! I really liked your dispersion with the 2024 Ventus blue. The right or left can be adjusted by you aiming. You seemed the most consistent w that one though, too.
@jarisalmi6484
@jarisalmi6484 2 месяца назад
great video! thanks! for my play stock shaft is the choice! differences are not so big!
@RichardEngle-pu3fz
@RichardEngle-pu3fz 2 месяца назад
Nice job. Great test
@johnd9111
@johnd9111 2 месяца назад
Glad you confirmed your instincts were spot on. Shows you have good command of your swing.
@agrajeda98
@agrajeda98 2 месяца назад
Cool experiment! Keep up the great work!
@LosSaintPatrick
@LosSaintPatrick Месяц назад
Great video! Interesting results....
@nelsonjames1272
@nelsonjames1272 2 месяца назад
Intriguing! Yes The top shaft is mine, only in a 6X.
@ccollinsworthov
@ccollinsworthov День назад
I have a Ping G425 Max driver that was flying to high and spinning waaaay to much, not to mention I was all over the yard with the stock shaft. I bought and installed a Fujikura Ventus Blue 6S shaft. I have gained a few yards in distance but now my dispersion is much tighter and I hit 10+ fairways a round these days. Wished I had done this sooner.
@bobmerkel8253
@bobmerkel8253 Месяц назад
great test and demo
@leonardkipp2387
@leonardkipp2387 2 месяца назад
Great video,thanks!
@scottysize
@scottysize 2 месяца назад
OutSTANDING video!
@costby
@costby Месяц назад
Absolutely love the way that was done. You are doing great. From a data guy things like this I could watch for hours. Maybe in editing you can have the numbers on the bottom of the screen as you talk about your feel and thoughts.
@giuliob9306
@giuliob9306 2 месяца назад
Great video. Thank you.
@stevenhines3441
@stevenhines3441 2 месяца назад
Great video...a super followup would be to do the same test using people with different swing speeds/tempos.
@vergecabral1217
@vergecabral1217 2 месяца назад
fantastic best review i have seen great job
@Willberight2moro
@Willberight2moro 2 месяца назад
Great video and effort Mr SG.... As a follow up, id like to see the stock Ventus V Ventus velocore head to head. Perhaps red and blue but certainly blue... I have the stock blue in my TM, never tried the Velocore version. TM offer the upgrade but they "tip" the velocore, so not apples for apples. I think the stiffer tip would improve control and dispersion...
@Golf4LifeGrandview
@Golf4LifeGrandview 2 месяца назад
Ian Fraser and Matt Blois with Club Champion did this test a couple of years ago. Tighter face contact with the VeloCore
@stephenchrishanson
@stephenchrishanson 2 месяца назад
Such a cool test. I'm a big fan on Tensei shafts (have tensei shafts in my driver, 7w and hybrid). I wonder if i'd like them as much in a blind test like this.
@jasonjohns773
@jasonjohns773 Месяц назад
Easily one of my favorite videos you've produced... having an OG Kai'li in the top 5 is awesome (use the 70X in my 3w); easily one of the best shafts ever made in my opinion, even 10+ years after it came out. Venus Black TR 6S in my driver, for reference.
@enzy6434
@enzy6434 2 месяца назад
I just bought a new 2024 Ventus Blue velocore+ so seeing that super tight dispersion you had with it gives me even more confidence in my purchase 😅
@thejoker7323
@thejoker7323 2 месяца назад
Mr Fujikura thanks you for putting this video out there
@dannyfreeman9904
@dannyfreeman9904 Месяц назад
Absolutely love this
@Lap-kw8hw
@Lap-kw8hw Месяц назад
Awesome video fittings should be this way blanked out shafts. Where did you find the Kai’ll online not seeing it except for the newer $500 one. Thanks for the info video and help!!!!!
@mek90703
@mek90703 2 месяца назад
Not surprised. That Ventus TR shaft is penominal.
@Slicktycoon
@Slicktycoon 2 месяца назад
Great experiment. I play a premium shaft (Ventus black TR 6x). Makes a huge difference. Not so much distance, but amazing dispersion and control on the "bad shots".
@captainsnake7406
@captainsnake7406 2 месяца назад
Just had my driver fitting! Tried every premium shaft, ended up with a stock shaft that feels amazing, what was more amazing is that I've been playing a 55g stiff shaft and ended up in a 75g stiff, So the weight was more important than anything when it came to the shaft. Also thought I would be in the more forgiving head, ended up in the lower spin head. Had my first round, couldn't be happier.
@ggg123abc
@ggg123abc 2 месяца назад
The most interesting driver shaft video I have seen so far!
@Gary-wz3bg
@Gary-wz3bg 2 месяца назад
Thanks
@mikehester7819
@mikehester7819 2 месяца назад
Great test!
@mstraeter
@mstraeter 2 месяца назад
Makes me feel good about my blue tr 5s, lol! Considering 6s though with a little more speed lately.. great vid.
@ndmagic99
@ndmagic99 2 месяца назад
Fantastic video. Tons of effort on your part. More tests should be blind. Well done!
@daveeklund6277
@daveeklund6277 2 месяца назад
Great video, thank you
@SchwinnRichard
@SchwinnRichard 2 месяца назад
This was fantastic!
@redfox12341
@redfox12341 2 месяца назад
Just fitted with the Ventus TR Blue 6X (phew got a little nervous when the clip started lol), upgrading from Tour AD MJ 6S. All stats across the line improved. Tried many other shafts, and it was a close call with Tour AD VF.
@seekinggreen4481
@seekinggreen4481 2 месяца назад
Yes, it absolutely makes a difference, everyones swing is different, shaft profiles work well for all sorts of people whether it be stock or aftermarket.
@tgrabowske
@tgrabowske 2 месяца назад
This is exactly how fittings should go and testing! Blind both ways. Awesome video!
@rickshaw8926
@rickshaw8926 2 месяца назад
2 weeks ago I was fitted for TPT shafts, I was not familiar with their numbering system. So in essence I was blindfolded because knowing the number meant nothing to me. I was fitted for a shaft the gave me 20 more yards. I picked it up today, but haven’t hit it yet. But shafts make a huge difference. I’m pretty excited about tomorrow. I will say that I got one that felt a lot “wimpier” than I was used to.
@biagiocozza8875
@biagiocozza8875 2 месяца назад
Great video, for meI will probably go with the stock one, because that has always worked for me, but if you get the chance to be fitted, go with the one that works best for me.
@jsearley3364
@jsearley3364 2 месяца назад
Loved this test. I wish all fitters would do this.
@tomjones5115
@tomjones5115 2 месяца назад
Hi Matt, Love your videos your energy is awesome. I didn't hear what shaft you are currently using on your driver. And your pick for "Best Shaft" how does it compare to your current driver setup? Also I would like your thoughts on.... Rather than purchasing a new driver I would use my current driver head (Ping G400) and just purchase a new shaft. Maybe this would save some money?
@prouddad16
@prouddad16 2 месяца назад
I'm looking to try the ventus TR red and blue, also the Hazrdus rdx blue. We'll see which one suit for me. Thanks for the video, that was very helpful!!!🥳🥳🥳
@andrewwild4098
@andrewwild4098 2 месяца назад
I will say this is an excellent way to do a fitting. Something I should point out which I think you missed was with the venture 5r. If that's a non velocore shaft, then it's indeed a stock option! Second place to boot! Great review MSG!
@andrewwild4098
@andrewwild4098 2 месяца назад
Ventus not venture .....lol
@michaelreilly5888
@michaelreilly5888 2 месяца назад
Excellent test Mr. Short Game! I was fitted into a PING G430 MAX last year, and the winning shaft for me in total distance, spin, and dispersion was a $100 upgrade Aldila NVS (2023 version). Again, for me, this shaft beat all the PING upgrades and half dozen $300+ options. If your fitter is good at his/her job, you'll get the right head shaft combo no matter the brand, model,, or price tag.
@Pud56
@Pud56 2 месяца назад
Anything is better than a Ping stock shaft, they are dreadful
@michaelreilly5888
@michaelreilly5888 2 месяца назад
@@Pud56 Actually, the PING Alta CBs are made by Aldila (according to PING), but keep in mind that the company offers a number of free upgrades that are very solid just like other manufacturers. In my case, the best option for solid distance and fairway finding was the Aldila NVS.
@joeylo73
@joeylo73 2 месяца назад
This is a good to great experiment. I'd like to see what you think of the Ventus OEM shafts. There are upgrades from a stock shaft but not the $300 velicore shafts. I put a Ventus OEM in my Ping right off the bat to see if it would help me out and between the forgiveness of the Ping G425 Max head and the Ventus Blue 6S OEM, I'm happy.
@herberthook8071
@herberthook8071 2 месяца назад
I really really like this approach. Don't know why i haven't subscribed to this channel before, but that is solved now :)
@markshi7052
@markshi7052 29 дней назад
Awesome review, that's why i watch your videos. Great products blind testing reviews.
@lanc1a
@lanc1a 2 месяца назад
What do they do to make the shafts better? I'm into skiing and the same problem applies to skies. Do they pick better shafts(skies) from a bunch of shafts being produced the same way or do they apply a different way to produce better shafts? I.E does it really cost more to produce an expencive shaft or are they just really good at picking out good shafts from the same product line?
@Tbow_actual
@Tbow_actual 2 месяца назад
It was the “if you don’t subscribe you were going to cover my lawn in chalk paint” comment that made me subscribe lol
@thegolfingmusician6345
@thegolfingmusician6345 2 месяца назад
Very informative.
@melnor82
@melnor82 2 месяца назад
Project X HZRDUS is a great stock shaft. Glad it hangs with the Ventus gang
@kipkline8101
@kipkline8101 2 месяца назад
Matt what a great idea. I current go between a Mitsubishi Diamana and a recently went to a much cheaper evenflow. Guess which goes further.
@drohvac4583
@drohvac4583 2 месяца назад
Great vid!!
@tomccherny3121
@tomccherny3121 2 месяца назад
Very interesting. Thank you for this test. I do enjoy your videos and I hope you sucess.
@syoung3602
@syoung3602 2 месяца назад
Love to see your number with your Axiom Iron shafts.
@bigfraz23
@bigfraz23 2 месяца назад
Love the video is good sir, over here in the UK hazard to smoke stock shaft. Loose spin is usually 60 g stock. 70 g that you tried is an upgrade and is an additional £120 here in the UK, technically not stuck but an upgrade. When are you coming over to the UK to do some Scottish Vlogs welcome for a roundhere in Glasgow any time 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏌️‍♂️⛳️
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