Stock MTW hopup vs Maxx M4W vs SI Alpha (Head 2 head)

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Something like Episode 2 of this H2H. Ep.1 - • Maxx M4W & SI Alpha ho...
Featuring:
▶ Stock hopup, Madbull 'red' flathopped bucking and R-hoped PDI 6.08 300 mm; Just for comparison and food for thought;
▶ Maxx M4W with the default orange M-nub, Madbull 'red' flathopped bucking & 300 mm PDI 6.05 with R-hop;
▶ Silent Industries (SI) Alpha chamber with Lambda FIVE 6.05 stainless steel barrel, G&G 'green' bucking and SI nub.
The dwell is set for 1.6 J with 0.36.
The Inferno Gen2 engine is with the SI MTW v2 red+black nozzle in both M4W and Alpha setups.The torso of the mannequin is 63 meters / 207 feet away.
The temperature was 16°C / 60 F.
#rhop #mtw #maxx_m4w #si_alpha #wolverineairsoft
0:00 - Distance measurement & chrono
0:54 - Stock CNC hopup + R-hop
2:36 - Maxx M4W + R-hop
6:49 - SI Alpha + G&G 'green'

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7 авг 2024

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@flyingduckairsoft 4 месяца назад

The stock hop-up works like a dream! Nice video!

@danielburr5080 Год назад

Damn well the results speak for themselves the stock cnc with r-hop really shined..!!!! max wasnt too bad either but..... stock was simply too good

@brandob.2733 Год назад

I also run the SI Setup and had the same unconsistant Results with the G&G Green. So I change it into a ML 60 Macaron. Now I have simular Results like your M4w Setup👍🏻

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

I have best results with Alpha when I use the Maple Leaf combo - Crazy Jet + Hot Shot bucking + Omega nub.

@duncaniraklio Год назад

Awesome video. I am trying to improve the performance of my MTW and bought the SI v2 nozzle and the SI alpha hopup. Haven't been getting good results with the G&G green and a prometheus 6.03 barrel, so kind of disappointed right now, but I'll wait a bit more until the bucking has had more shots through it. Do you think that the SI v2 nozzle is better than the Wolverine original nozzle?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

With v2 SI nozzle I have 0.13 J loss with Alpha compared to M4W. Other than that I can't see any measurable difference between stock nozzle and SI v2 nozzle.

@m60user Год назад

The stock setup did well, especially with that wind it was dealing with.

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

Yes. It works really well with r-hoped PDI 6.08.

@pug8105 Год назад

Great Video . What is the app you are using for range finder ?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

It's a phone camera behind a laser range finder.

@LeinusRait Месяц назад

Hi, great video! what does the stock hopup's M-nub look like and where can one get it?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Месяц назад

You can order it from McMaster - www.mcmaster.com/5109K31/ and cut the piece you need. And you have to modify the stock arm to glue the nub. It's the same nub that comes pre-installed in Maxx M4W/MXW/MGW. photos.app.goo.gl/9HY1Dyf29rvGNHLQ9 photos.app.goo.gl/HdRde2W1tG9tTpPi9

@affeCted6990 Год назад

U using the maxx orange sqare nub ?? Nice results 👍💪

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

Yes, the M-nub the camera comes with by default.

@JuDgeDreGg 10 месяцев назад

Was it a selfmade R-Hop patch? Or did you bought one from someone? thats absolutely crazy with the stock cnc unit. also did you tried the concave aluminium nub on the m4w? Should be better in comparison to a flat nub.

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 10 месяцев назад

Yes, selfmade R-hop patches in both barrels. The one in the stock hopup is a 8 year old silicone IR-hop patch. The one in M4W is made from EPDM rubber hose. The hard concave aluminum nub doesn't work good at all with my R-hops. In all my R-hop setups the soft M-nub gives me the best results compared to all other options that are available on the market.

@elekbalazs88 10 дней назад

@@NikolayDimitrovFishermate can you help with tips how can i make an r hop for myself?

@stalinelie1088 Год назад

Great video!! It is the stock plastic hop up unit or the Phoenix hop up unit that using ? Because you whrite stock cnc hop up. Thank

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

The 2nd gen Forged comes with a CNC aluminum version of the plastic hopup.

@stalinelie1088 Год назад

Ok thank

@stalinelie1088 Год назад

Do you think we can use a r-hop with 0.28 g. I can't do it, I have far too many Hopup at zero. thanks

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

@@stalinelie1088 yes, i use mine with 0.28-0.30 @ 1.1 J when i play CQB.

@NickBusscher 8 месяцев назад

Does r hop work with .25s or is that too light? @@NikolayDimitrovFisher

@Deikis 4 месяца назад

My setup Silent Industries MTW Alpha hop-up chamber + nozzle G&G COLD RESISTANT HOP UP RUBBER - GREEN 6.04 MTW 14.5″ Stainless Steel Hybrid Barrel 380mm but I'm not satisfied with the accuracy, maybe you could advise me how to improve it 2.8j 0.45bbs

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 4 месяца назад

The easiest way is to try flathoped Madbull red with SI flat nub. The best way is R-hop.

@isthisthetop_4150 6 месяцев назад

I use a 6.08mm PDI (380mm), the SI camber with Snipetor 65 R hop patch, regular flathop bucking and the SI black nub. My 0.4 bbs overhop very quick and i have no consistet results. Any idea what to change??

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 6 месяцев назад

The patch should not protrudes in the barrel with hop turned off. When you drop a bb in front of the barrel it should stop in the bucking lips, not in the patch. The nub is taller than needed. Try shorter or softer nub. Check if the tension ring doesn't provide too much bucking lips resistance for bb. You should be able to push the bb through the lips with very little force applied. Do you have consistent FPS with hopup turned on?

@isthisthetop_4150 6 месяцев назад

@@NikolayDimitrovFisher hey thanks for the tips, you're right I have to press very hard so that the bb comes through the feeding lips. Will have to try another ring. and do you have a recommendation for a nub? I will check the fps later.😇

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 6 месяцев назад

@@isthisthetop_4150 when i tested Alpha with R-hop i had good results with its softer blue extended nub. Not so good as with M-nub but better than anything else i tried.

@isthisthetop_4150 6 месяцев назад

@@NikolayDimitrovFisher okay so the best Option is the Airtech M-nub? Then i will try this one.

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 6 месяцев назад

@@isthisthetop_4150 Airtech M-nub is with trolley for Maxx ME Pro/Sport. You can use the nub only with modified SI Alpha trolley.

@HuibvanderHart Год назад

Is it the 6.08 barrel or the r-hop.. That’s amazing.. 😮

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

Definitely the R-hop. 6.08 helps but it's not significantly better than 6.05.

@HuibvanderHart Год назад

@@NikolayDimitrovFisher Ok. Thanks! Like this testing vids btw!

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

@@HuibvanderHart Thank you, much appreciated!

@christopherhayto1089 Год назад

пробвахте ли бялата дюза mtw в M4W в сравнение с дюзата SI, много впечатлен от стандартния модул за хоп

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

Yes. I tried it. It's just as good as the SI red-black v2. They both are with the same length.

@christopherhayto1089 Год назад

@@NikolayDimitrovFisher ok, video showed how effective each unit was saved me some money, just how effective the stock unit is, great testing.

@NeboUser 6 месяцев назад

Неплохо летит. Это Maple Leaf или Р-хоп стоит?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 6 месяцев назад

R-hop in M4W.

@NeboUser 5 месяцев назад

@@NikolayDimitrovFisher а р-хоп сами делали или кто-то вам на заказ?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 5 месяцев назад

@@NeboUser it's custom made by me from EPDM rubber hose.

@STEFBABYAIRSOFT Год назад

Група да искаш...

@qwerty-ki4mh Год назад

Great video, which of the 3 setups did you prefer?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

M4W with 6 mm M-nub, R-hoped PDI 6.08 with 6 mm rectangular hopup window, Madbull 'red' flathoped bucking.

@RedNeckActual Год назад

@@NikolayDimitrovFisher Have you tried the aluminium concave 7 mm nub of the M4W with your R-hop PDI barrels? And what do you think it?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

@@RedNeckActual yes, i tried it but with no success - lots o flyers, bad accuracy. The soft nub is much more effective.

@mauricechoo8884 11 месяцев назад

@@NikolayDimitrovFisher from the video it seems your first set up is more accurate no? @minute 1:20

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 11 месяцев назад

@@mauricechoo8884 Maybe... I wouldn't say there is any noticeable difference between those two setups, they both shoots great :)

@MsRiico Год назад

what r-hop is this? elvishtac?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

No. Custom made by me.

@MsRiico Год назад

@@NikolayDimitrovFisher So maybe some tutorial how u made it in the future? :) Are u running MTW mags or some other?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Год назад

MTW mags.

@raph-fpv6044 8 месяцев назад

Hello, does the SI MTW v2 red+black nozzle really make a significant difference or not that much?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 8 месяцев назад

i can't say for sure because in my gun (1st gen billet lower + 1st gen forged upper) i have a ~0.15 J loss with SI v2 nozzle compared to SI v1 or stock 1st gen nozzle. Having in mind that SI v2 red-black nozzle have the same dimensions as the white delrin nozzle of the current MTW Inferno I would say that there's no difference in performance between them.

@raph-fpv6044 8 месяцев назад

@@NikolayDimitrovFisher After watching your videos, I feel motivated to strive for excellent performance! Does the 6mm orange number make a significant difference compared to the 4mm? Thank you!

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 8 месяцев назад

@raph-fpv6044 good luck and don't give up :)! You only need 6 mm nub if you have 6+ mm patch or use 0.40+ g bbs with more than 1.7 j. Otherwise the 4 mm M-nub is more than enough.