STOP Calling Tupac the GOAT 

He might be🤷‍♀️

Nas better

@@TheOnlyCentaurus he the goat too

⁠@@TheOnlyCentaurusNas and pac are the best. But I think pac is slightly better. Once you get used to Pac’s deep cuts you learn he was as lyrically skilled as Nas when he wanted to be. Pac can do everything Nas can, but it doesn’t work the other way around. Pac could get poetic as well as lyrical.

Hov biggie & Big L way better

Ngl mlk isn’t no saint but def take him over Tupac

⁠@@splat-boy5414Pac was a convicted r*pist and killed a 6 year old boy (accidentally). Neither of them were saints.

we both know all these young people calimin pac the goat can't name 5 pac songs i agree it's not a good argument but he's right

@@ModeloBloodReplacement I can wtf ? You acting like his music not on all streaming play 😭

Tf u mean? Realistically, one of the big reasons as to why people call artists like pac the GOAT is due to the actual time period in and of itself. The music inspired people OF THAT SPECIFIC PERIOD. Yes, some people can enjoy past music and say they like it, but a majority of pac fans, ie the old heads love the dude for all the impact that he made, the souls he touched back in the day. There's probably songs/artists out there, 100s of years ago that was important to the political climate, the social climate of that era, yet I KNOW you ain't about to say that that person(s) is the GOAT.

@@asmodeusguys4472 not reading that

@@ModeloBloodReplacement damn, lil bro responded fast 🤣🤣 aight, not my problem you can't read like 3 small ass paragraphs.

Same here. I was 3 when he passed away but it's always been good music

2Pac is overrated because his fans are toxic asf and act like he’s an untouchable god that you aren’t allowed to have a different opinion on they also exagerrate tf out of his achievements

I was 3 too

What does that fact that your a "90's baby" have to do with anything

2Pac overrated he wouldnt get put on the same pedestal if he was alive

When you get acquainted with his catalogue fully you understand he was as good an mc as biggie jay and Nas. his deep cuts absolutely show that.

@@stephencox8723 personally I think he was better than them because his deep cuts you feel them deeper than ever.

@@jeremydebose568 I agree. that pac was better but mainly because he could take it places others couldn’t. he showed on tracks like this ain’t living, or wherever u r he can do lyrical hip hop. but songs like so many tears show he can do those poetic songs as well. most versatile mc ever.

@@stephencox8723 I think on troublesome 96 is where he was most lyrical same as made niggaz

@@jeremydebose568 that’s absolutely another one of those tracks. you’re 100% correct. i just found out last year tupac could be this lyrical whenever he pleased. I literally used to believe he didn’t have those technical skills until I seriously started listening. I think his ability to do both is lyrical shit and poetic shit is unmatched maybe only Nas comes close.

Except for Michael Jordan. Lol

@@Chadblake1people will definetly contest that, I feel mj is the best and basketball but others might think others

That's not true. There are some things that are objective. Hip-hop however, is not one of them.

Except for Messi

Accept for Michael Jackson 😂🤷🏽‍♂️

Hm future ,carti ,yb,polo

@@yungphat596 polo 😭

@@kashcot not saying he a goat but he just one of my favs

@@yungphat596 polo u gotta be born after 2010 yb valid THO

Wayne is the actual goat not pac

Dmx only became popular after pac died the same way jay only became popular after Biggie died.

You hit everything I feel about X right on the head. My favorite rapper of all time as well. Most definitely, someone I hold in high regard.

​@@stephencox8723pac became popular after pac died

@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 bruh, he’s the first rapper to have a number 1 album from jail. He was also in a few classic 90s movies. What are you smoking my guy 😂?

@@stephencox8723 he was also the first rapper to l0se hiz wigpiece the most 😅

same with pop smoke

i dont agree with this, the whole point of art is to be creative, a artist should be able to use his creativity to expand a genre not stay limited because of standards.

@@m_niwiarowski19 Yea I see what your saying but I still disagree because literally in every genre or style of art there becomes a standard of what makes it said genre or style. It's why we have categories in the first place. An artist can elevate their genre or style or create a new style, genre, or sub genre. The point is not to keep an artist in box. For example boom bap hip hop has certain standards hip hop heads, the founders and the artists themselves establish which is complex lyricism, elite flows, large vocab, coherency things like that, on top of rapping on those boom bap beats. If I come out as a rapper and I wanna go down that boom bap lane but my skillset is not up to par I don't have elite lyrical ability, etc. I'm objectively bad because I cannot meet the standards the people within this field have set forth. Now you can still like my music and think it sounds fire but that does not mean that I am objectively a good rapper. Another example one of my best friends doesn't like Lupe Fiasco's music at all but acknowledges that Lupe is one of the greatest rappers ever.

​@@m_niwiarowski19 That's not really a good point. If everything is art what is not art?

​@@m_niwiarowski19How can an artist break new ground if it isn't a base in the first place? How can you break the rules if you don't know them in the first place? You don't need to be a certain age to lisen to an artist. His age point is kinda silly. What you like and what is obiective better are two difrent things.

kendrick has made way better songs

@@AyushPant-kf8lc they still play Dear Momma every Mother’s Day. It’s been so for 20 years. No disrespect to Kendrick but he ain’t Pac and you know that!

@@mnoell35exactly. Kendrick ain't pac, he's way better. 2pac could never make albums like GKMC and TPAB

@@AyushPant-kf8lc last response-won’t nobody be talking about Kendrick years from now. Like I said no disrespect but nobody has or ever had Ken as the GOAT. You know that-keep the faith

@@mnoell35 nah this is the worst rap take I've ever heard🤣🤣. The only reason people call 2pac the goat and remember him is because he died early. Normally people won't know more than 5 2pac songs

nah it just means hes a pedo 💀🗿

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2Pac overrated he wouldnt get put on the same pedestal if he was alive

@@allaboutthemurzic We don't know that. We assume that based on his skills at the time. Maybe he would have evolved if he was still alive, or maybe he would have not. He said he master all their style. And if you see "Me against the world" rhyme scheme he could clearly do multidilabic rhymes. He could also do fast flows like in Bomb first. But I think the events around his life and his death also push him to sort of a hip hop myth status. If NaS died after Illmatic he would have been considered the GOAT. Yet he lived and dropped also albums that people where disappointed in. But after a time he bounce back with King diseases albums. My point is we don't know for sure the evolution of an artist. Look at Kendrick, Eminem, Kanye or other artist.

That's just cap just say you only went out of your way to listen to mumble rap if you think it's 99% he's better than he wasn't even best of his era 😂

@@thomo2127bruh why you judging you don’t know this dude and you don’t know what he likes and not likes so stop judge my nigga

Nah u trippin or maybe u been sleepin for the last 8 years but a loooot of great music has deopped since 2015

It's your own fault you have no attention span. Maybe if he put a split screen with subway surfers you'd feel more comfortable.

​@@Sara-sh3gelmao

Exactly people bandwagon and I used to be one of them.

Hes always in my top 5

Dj Kahlid and it's not even close

ye and yb better

Yessir this not yo opinion bro this is facts😂😂

Eminem,kurtis blow,nas etc

What do you mean by impact? All the rappers trying to sound like Tupac never really blow. On the other hand rappers trying to sound like Lil Wayne, Drake, Young Thug, Future, Kanye are dominating the charts

You ain’t heard all of his songs pac got way more song them DMX

@@DwayneHill-hd8mm i have heard all pacs albums i just like X more no knock to pac at all

@@darrenp42019 but you ain’t heard his unrealised tracks

@@darrenp42019 your know X disrespected pac buy saying he is better then 2Pac end of story that’s what he said X is no when near is Pac

What are the objective ways you can prove one rapper is better than another

Did you even watch the video

@@josephshoulders3542 yeah I watched the whole entire video and like I said just what I said in the comments they still stand. People call Pac the Goat for there own reasons. He the GOAT in many ways point blank bottom line hands down!! Do more research on Pac and you will see why people call him the GOAT

I'm 25 years old and I like 2pac

It's all opinionated at the end of the day. Not everyone likes classical shit, but dumb mfs these days won't accept it

How

@@zyking5298 I just explain one reason and there's many others

you missed the point of the whole video bro. he’s not saying Tupac shouldn’t be considered a goat( if you feel like that then cool, to each his own), he just saying that it’s genuinely hard to believe that most people in their 20s think that way too and that it’s okay if they don’t.

@@baby_basquiat And you assumed that I was referring to the video itself than the comment thread. But if we're going by what's in the video, then it shouldn't matter if they're in their 20s or not. They should still respect them as being legends based on their credentials, not based on if they grew up with them. I didn't grow up with NWA or Marvin Gaye, but I still respect them as GOATs for paving the way and laying the foundation for my favorite rapper or singer to even have a career. That's like saying I don't see Larry Bird as a GOAT because I didn't grow up with him even though his credentials say otherwise.

​@@CGImpalaschooling these young boys slaute.

you just saying pac fans are like bts stans 💀

DMX energy>>>

Yeah he liked to rush through his songs. That’s why most of his songs felt same-y.